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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #350 on: February 04, 2015, 12:17:57 PM »
Never heard the chocolate king. Ukrainians like to call him chocolate bunny though not as much as before. Since he won the election he has another cute nickname that has to do with his winning on the first round but I cannot translate it properly.

Yeah, I heard the term Chocolate Bunny too.  But it wasn't in use much where I was living.
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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #351 on: February 06, 2015, 09:39:46 AM »
Vice News


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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #352 on: February 07, 2015, 12:02:30 PM »




How is that?

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #353 on: February 07, 2015, 12:12:23 PM »
Is that the same woman who was in Odessa, Lughansk and Donetsk as a victim of the Ukrainian Nazis?
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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #354 on: February 07, 2015, 12:31:30 PM »
It sure looked like her.

 I didn't get the point of the first video. A cameraman speaking English? BFD..

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #355 on: February 07, 2015, 12:53:25 PM »
I mean people in uniform speaking American English.

So US is involved now?


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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #356 on: February 07, 2015, 01:03:34 PM »
 American english? I've never heard anyone speak American english like that. Sounds more British to me.
 Why do you say it's American english?

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #357 on: February 07, 2015, 01:08:28 PM »
Both of them have non native speaking accents.  I suspect neither are native English speakers.
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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #358 on: February 07, 2015, 01:19:32 PM »
OK, but they are definitively not Ukrainians.

So, other countries are involved (in Poroshenko's Army)

Now are we discussing Russians in Ukraine again?

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #359 on: February 07, 2015, 01:41:39 PM »
OK, but they are definitively not Ukrainians.

So, other countries are involved (in Poroshenko's Army)

Now are we discussing Russians in Ukraine again?

There have been volunteers on both sides, it has been documented:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28951324

Russians in Ukraine is an indisputable fact:


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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #360 on: February 07, 2015, 01:50:47 PM »
Изумруд, Russian soldiers don't have passports - passports are taken from them at the moment they start serving. They have them back after they are done serving. It is the law.

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #361 on: February 07, 2015, 01:54:41 PM »




How is that?

Oh yeah that settles it.  Billions and billions of dollars in waste propping up the Kiev government . . . .  :rolleyes:

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #362 on: February 07, 2015, 02:12:41 PM »
Изумруд, Russian soldiers don't have passports - passports are taken from them at the moment they start serving. They have them back after they are done serving. It is the law.

So, they are volunteers?

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #363 on: February 07, 2015, 02:17:03 PM »
So, they are volunteers?
Who- they? I only see passports on the video.
Names? Place, date of birth? Where did Poroshenko get the passports if "Russian soldiers" like he said are not supposed to have passports?

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #364 on: February 07, 2015, 02:42:16 PM »
Who- they? I only see passports on the video.
Names? Place, date of birth? Where did Poroshenko get the passports if "Russian soldiers" like he said are not supposed to have passports?

So, Poroshenko just took a few random Russian passports and showed them to the camera; OK, understood.  :)

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #365 on: February 07, 2015, 02:54:28 PM »
So, Poroshenko just took a few random Russian passports and showed them to the camera; OK, understood.  :)

 :-X

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #366 on: February 07, 2015, 03:00:46 PM »
So, Poroshenko just took a few random Russian passports and showed them to the camera; OK, understood.  :)
Most likely.
One more time- Russian passports are taken by "военкомат"

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #367 on: February 07, 2015, 03:01:56 PM »
Most likely.
One more time- Russian passports are taken by "военкомат"

Hey Genius, do you have ANY evidence?

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #368 on: February 07, 2015, 03:05:28 PM »
OK, but they are definitively not Ukrainians.

So, other countries are involved (in Poroshenko's Army)

Now are we discussing Russians in Ukraine again?


No, they could be Ukrainians.  They definitely have an accent when speaking English.


The number of foreigners fighting for Ukraine is miniscule.  The number of foreigners fighting for the terrorists is rather large (larger than natives).
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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #369 on: February 07, 2015, 03:13:17 PM »
Most likely.
One more time- Russian passports are taken by "военкомат"

I understood, there are no Russians in Ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #370 on: February 07, 2015, 03:13:51 PM »
More infor- soldiers are supposed to have military ID (no passport)

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #371 on: February 07, 2015, 03:15:23 PM »

No, they could be Ukrainians.  They definitely have an accent when speaking English.

 
They are NOT Ukrainians,  know Ukrainian accent when they speak English. No way.

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #372 on: February 07, 2015, 03:16:40 PM »

 The number of foreigners fighting for Ukraine is miniscule.  The number of foreigners fighting for the terrorists is rather large (larger than natives).
HOW DO YOU KNOW?
From Facebook?

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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #373 on: February 07, 2015, 03:18:52 PM »
Here is President Poroshenko's speech.





BTW, my husband tells me that soldiers are given their passports at times.
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Re: Ukraine is losing the war
« Reply #374 on: February 07, 2015, 03:20:15 PM »
They are NOT Ukrainians,  know Ukrainian accent when they speak English. No way.
Alsom there is NOOOOOOOOOOOO way soldiers have travel passports (Poroshenko shows 3 of them)

 

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