Hi, my name is Natasha :)

[Natali_Tsymbalyuk]

Hello everyone!
My name is Natasha and I am from Odessa)
I learned about this site from my American friend. So I decided to find out - that men think about Ukrainian girls.
I often see strange letters from men, accusations and suspicions of fraud. At first I did not understand it. But later find out that a lot of girls to deceive men. Because of this men do not trust girls and check them different ways or just insult. That's why I decided to register on this site. I want to understand the thinking of men. And the way to show that I do not deserve unwarranted accusations.
Besides, I'll be glad to answer any your questions)))
I hope that we can understand each other better

PS My knowledge of English is very poor (I use Google translator). I hope you understand me correctly. And I'll be glad to any of your fixes (I will not be offended if you point out my error).

[Hammer2722]

Welcome to RWD Natali, We always appreciate a woman's perspective on all things relationship wise. 

[cc3]

Hello everyone!
My name is Natasha and I am from Odessa)
I learned about this site from my American friend. So I decided to find out - that men think about Ukrainian girls.
I often see strange letters from men, accusations and suspicions of fraud. At first I did not understand it. But later find out that a lot of girls to deceive men. Because of this men do not trust girls and check them different ways or just insult. That's why I decided to register on this site. I want to understand the thinking of men. And the way to show that I do not deserve unwarranted accusations.
Besides, I'll be glad to answer any your questions)))
I hope that we can understand each other better

PS My knowledge of English is very poor (I use Google translator). I hope you understand me correctly. And I'll be glad to any of your fixes (I will not be offended if you point out my error).

Natasha, welcome to the forum. Congratulations for your brave curiosity. I am American and live with my Ukrainian fiancee in Lviv.

[Larry1]

Hi Natasha. Odessa is a beautiful city. Welcome to the forum.

[Chelseaboy]

Welcome to this forum Natasha 

If you let us know which dating/marriage sites you personally use then some of the forum members here,including me,can give you our perspective on why accusations of fraud are leveled at girls that use those sites.

[Natali_Tsymbalyuk]

Welcome to this forum Natasha 

If you let us know which dating/marriage sites you personally use then some of the forum members here,including me,can give you our perspective on why accusations of fraud are leveled at girls that use those sites.

Yes of course).
I registered the hotrussianbrides (http://www.hotrussianbrides.com/russian-brides/profile-542311.aspx)
On this site I half year. When I turned to the agency REGISTER me there in the first place. It is here that most of of the men accusation.
Here's an example of what I'm getting on this site:

"Your the most ugly girl on this site and you chat all the time STOP you break computer skreens" - that I get chatting. Why would I wrote this?

"You are very lucky and with your attributes am sure you will (either) earn a lot of money on this site - or - find what you are searching for, I admire you and can only wish you well." - A piece of writing. Then the same man wrote to me in chat and then accuse me that I make money on this site. That made me angry.

one man offered me money. He wrote that own marriage agency. And he knows - how it works. By this he wanted to, what would I Naya him mature woman outside of this site.
As many men call me a slut, offer gifts for the fact that I send erotic photos.
I do not understand these men. If they do not trust the girl. Why are they wasting my time and money on these e mails and chats? Why should I listen to it? Especially since they have no reason to suspect me.

http://www.russiandesire.com/

I also registered there. But I do not use this website. It is very a lot of bad men. They seek only sex online .Many men asked to show his chest and undress. One man masturbate on camera! It was awful !!!

[Boethius]

Hello Natasha.  I am female, BTW.
 
I think your age will work against you on sites.  From what I have read of Western women on dating sites, there is a significant minority of men who are absolute pigs.  You just have to let it roll off you.  Don't take it seriously.

[calmissile]

Hello Natasha,

I seems that the perverts congregate on the sites you have chosen.  You might want to consider registering on more reputable sites.  I believe that Elena Models is one site recommended by a number of members.  There are probably others that members will suggest.

Good luck.

[Natali_Tsymbalyuk]

Hello Natasha,

I seems that the perverts congregate on the sites you have chosen.  You might want to consider registering on more reputable sites.  I believe that Elena Models is one site recommended by a number of members.  There are probably others that members will suggest.

Good luck.

thanks for the advice. I turn to my agency to learn - it cooperate with this website or not.

[Natali_Tsymbalyuk]

Hello Natasha.  I am female, BTW.
 
I think your age will work against you on sites.  From what I have read of Western women on dating sites, there is a significant minority of men who are absolute pigs.  You just have to let it roll off you.  Don't take it seriously.

I'm not sure I understand you correctly (translation problems). Can you explain.

[Larry1]

Natasha,
It is unfortunate that you have received these messages. I agree with what Boethius wrote above. I suggest that you register at another dating site, perhaps LuckyLovers or Elena's Models, where some of the men are of better quality. You may still encounter some men like this, but you can also meet some good men.

[ML]

thanks for the advice. I turn to my agency to learn - it cooperate with this website or not.

If you are signed up with some agency, you cannot talk with them about some other website.

They obviously will not want you to join some other website.

So just go and join some other dating websites.

Here are some dating websites you should join.

These are in English:

http://singles.ru/
http://www.luckylovers.net/
http://www.rbrides.com/
http://www.ukrainedate.com/
http://www.allsinglerussiangirls.com/
http://freepersonals.ru/
http://bride.ru/
http://fdating.com
http://www.1vipdating.com/
http://freeukrainianwomen.com/
http://okfreedating.net/
http://luckylifepartner.com/
http://www.weblovefinder.com/

These are in Russian:

 http://www.edarling.ru/
 http://vmireznakomstv.ru/
 http://www.your-ideal.com/
 http://www.24open.ru/
 http://loveplanet.ru/
 http://www.maybe.ru/
 http://znakomstva-sitelove.ru/

[Boethius]

I'm not sure I understand you correctly (translation problems). Can you explain.

You will not be taken seriously by many men because of your young age.  Most Western men looking for a Ukrainian wife are in their forties or beyond.  Those over 40 years old who would consider you are looking for a trophy, not a family life.
 
Many men on dating websites are pigs.  You can't take what they say seriously, or to your heart. 

[Natali_Tsymbalyuk]

If you are signed up with some agency, you cannot talk with them about some other website.

They obviously will not want you to join some other website.

So just go and join some other dating websites.

Here are some dating websites you should join.

These are in English:

http://singles.ru/
http://www.luckylovers.net/
http://www.rbrides.com/
http://www.ukrainedate.com/
http://www.allsinglerussiangirls.com/
http://freepersonals.ru/
http://bride.ru/
http://fdating.com
http://www.1vipdating.com/
http://freeukrainianwomen.com/
http://okfreedating.net/
http://luckylifepartner.com/
http://www.weblovefinder.com/

These are in Russian:

 http://www.edarling.ru/
 http://vmireznakomstv.ru/
 http://www.your-ideal.com/
 http://www.24open.ru/
 http://loveplanet.ru/
 http://www.maybe.ru/
 http://znakomstva-sitelove.ru/

My agency cooperate with several sites. And possible register on any of them, but only through an agency. Thus they ensure the safety of girls.
But thanks for your links

[Gator]

Natasha   

There are true stories of scams involving women from Ukraine and Russia.   However, based on my experience, the vast majority of women are sincere.

My guess is the percentage of "good" women from Russia and Ukraine on dating agencies is larger than the percentage of "good" men from the West writing to them.  I have heard many stories from several RW about sex perverts writing them.

Any man who questions you in the beginning about fraud is a weak man, so eliminate them.    They are frightened by the stories about fraud.   No man should question your integrity unless you do something such as ask for money.   

I looked at your profile at Hot Russian Brides.  First, that agency has a questionable reputation - many examples of women not really interested in the man, yet encouraging the man to keep writing and writing (and paying money for each letter).   It is apparent that some top women do not see the letters from the men; instead,  a translator (possibly a man) reads the letter and fabricates a response.  The fact that you read letters from men gives me some hope that Hot Russian Brides may not be as bad as their reputation.


You are a pretty dyevushka with the body of a model, so I understand why you attract the attention of men.  Your photos are professional.  I suggest that you add more photos taken by a friend and not a professional photographer.  Include a photo with your Mom and Dad, showing your family values.  Or a photo with you and a hobby. 

Now I have a couple of questions for you: 

1.  What is so wrong with men from Odessa that you must look in Europe, America?

2.  You mentioned you are not scared of a "big age difference."   What age would be "too big?"   
 

[ML]

My agency cooperate with several sites. And possible register on any of them, but only through an agency. Thus they ensure the safety of girls.
But thanks for your links

Yes, they have cooperative agencies because they want to control you and make money from men who write/talk with you.

You should not at all stick with your current agency.

And it is silly to think they 'ensure safety' of their girls.

The only thing they are 'ensuring' is that they make the most money possible from having control of you and who can contact you.

[Larry1]

My agency cooperate with several sites. And possible register on any of them, but only through an agency. Thus they ensure the safety of girls.

If you sign up with one of the dating sites ML mentioned above you will be responsible for your own safety. By taking some precautions when meeting guys you should be safe. I think agencies tell girls to stay only with them so that they will be safe, when the real reason is that the girls keep earning money for the agencies.

[Gator]

My agency cooperate with several sites. And possible register on any of them, but only through an agency. Thus they ensure the safety of girls.
But thanks for your links

When registering with Hot Russian Brides, I assume you had to sign a document saying you would not register with another agency.  We refer to this as an "exclusive" arrangement. 

Hot Russian Brides is doing this not for your safety but to suppress the competition.  If Hot Russian Brides is protecting your safety, why have they allowed many sex perverts  to contact you?   

You know how to protect yourself. 

[Brasscasing]

Wecome aboard Natali.   

Brass

[Natali_Tsymbalyuk]

Natasha   

There are true stories of scams involving women from Ukraine and Russia.   However, based on my experience, the vast majority of women are sincere.

My guess is the percentage of "good" women from Russia and Ukraine on dating agencies is larger than the percentage of "good" men from the West writing to them.  I have heard many stories from several RW about sex perverts writing them.

Any man who questions you in the beginning about fraud is a weak man, so eliminate them.    They are frightened by the stories about fraud.   No man should question your integrity unless you do something such as ask for money.   

I looked at your profile at Hot Russian Brides.  First, that agency has a questionable reputation - many examples of women not really interested in the man, yet encouraging the man to keep writing and writing (and paying money for each letter).   It is apparent that some top women do not see the letters from the men; instead,  a translator (possibly a man) reads the letter and fabricates a response.  The fact that you read letters from men gives me some hope that Hot Russian Brides may not be as bad as their reputation.


You are a pretty dyevushka with the body of a model, so I understand why you attract the attention of men.  Your photos are professional.  I suggest that you add more photos taken by a friend and not a professional photographer.  Include a photo with your Mom and Dad, showing your family values.  Or a photo with you and a hobby. 

Now I have a couple of questions for you: 

1.  What is so wrong with men from Odessa that you must look in Europe, America?

2.  You mentioned you are not scared of a "big age difference."   What age would be "too big?"

Profile Picture was taken by a professional photographer. I also make up make-up artist (I usually do not use cosmetics. I do not be able to use it.). All this to pay the agency. They want their customers high-quality photos. They do not allow to place a photo of poor quality. They always need to be updated photo in the questionnaire. To this end, they always arrange a new photoshoot optional girl.
This is one reason why I can not post photos of life. I usually send them a letter, if a man is to ask them.

1. Initially I register on the site to find new friends.
With a guy from my town, I can not find common topics of conversation. They have for me too primitive. That's why I decided to meet with someone from another country. I thought that communication with this person will be more interesting.the agency advised my friend. She has to find a man from America. Last year, she moved to barter and be happy. It is a lot of talk that foreigners relate to girls better. I do not have a goal to get married right now. I'm not in a hurry. I look at the future. I do not want to have a lot of marriages. I want to find only one right man for life.
And I will not hide. I would like to have a good support. Country in my country is unstable. If I have a male foreigner - I can make your system feel more confident in life. I can open up new horizons for me. For example, I worked as an assistant electrician at the service station. In Odessa, I did not take seriously. Everyone thought that a girl can not be a good specialist (a man's profession) .But I really like doing it. I love to do something with his hands. But from the men I learned that overseas etonormalnaya and demanded trade for the girl.

2. I can not give a clear answer to this question.
For friendship I have no ogranecheny aged.
I met some men who are older than me, more than 30 years. One to come to Odessa (he traveled throughout the former USSR). Him to be in '53. I show him the city. It was interesting. With an adult male can discuss many interesting topics. history, politics, culture, science ... Men who are much older than me, to be adequate. They can speak on various topics. They do not lead vulgar conversations. Of these, a good conversationalist and I learn a lot.
But to create a family ... Of course it does not get too old male. Since I want to have a full family (with children). I think that a man should not be older than 15 years. But everything is relative ... I know a marriage when a girl 18 years  and a man - 80. This is a true story. The man - a close friend of my uncle. He is to be happy in their marriage. They had a son.

[mendeleyev]

Привет, Наташа !  It is good that you practice English. On VK there is a group that you might enjoy for learning English. The name is «Just English».

[AC]

Hi Natasha,

Welcome to the forum.  I hope you enjoy it and that it helps you to improve your English.

[Natali_Tsymbalyuk]

Привет, Наташа !  It is good that you practice English. On VK there is a group that you might enjoy for learning English. The name is «Just English».

This group http://vk.com/just_eng  (there are too many with similar names)?

[blackjacks53]

Welcome to the forum.  Plenty of good people here with plenty of good, honest information.  Don't be hesitant to ask questions. 

[Boethius]

Natasha, if you can become an electrician in Ukraine, you could also apply to emigrate to Canada on your own.  You would need to improve your English, though, and then find someone willing to employ you.  Employment is not a problem if, on emigration, you are willing to live in a smaller centre.  There is a special programme -

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/trades/apply-who.asp

Then, you can find a husband here.  You are very young for marriage by North American standards, so that would not be a big problem.
 
If you speak Ukrainian (as opposed to Russian), you may be able to find a diaspora Ukrainian who would be willing to employ you.