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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #100 on: June 15, 2015, 08:35:25 AM »
Which country was partitioned?


Hi Larry,

I was reviewing/quoting a wiki link on the subject...I'll provide you a link and leave it at that.  This particular subject isn't that interesting to me although it appears rife with corruption. 


[size=78%]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine[/size]




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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #101 on: June 15, 2015, 09:36:51 AM »




I tallied up the value of all your posts here...I got zero...then I decided to tally again and it was less than zero.    Too bad, unless someone would like for the conversation to turn sideways rather than forward.


Fathertime!


El Señor Esquivez.  :-\


Zero is what you are posting when trying to sound cool after being repudiated for your (lack of) perspective.
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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #102 on: June 15, 2015, 09:58:02 AM »
Oh, don't think that I agree that Putin is a moderate.  I just think he is a pragmatist.  Russia would have been much more successful with Medvedev in a second term.  But I do agree that Putin totally upstaged Obama on Syria.  Obama had his clown mask on.

That wasn't a mask  :popcorn:

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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #103 on: June 15, 2015, 10:02:09 AM »

Er..., you forgot to include your buddies, the Ruskies.  ;)

My buddies, the Ruskies too, yes. But they have no interest in this war of shelling their own.


Let me get this right.


You post your source of info and people rebuts your assertion and that is "drowning any and all opposition viewpoint?"


And instead of rebutting the statement, you engage in the same tactics you are decrying?


What a peach.

You didn't notice what I was talking about, no? It was no rebuttals (if that's the correct wording) of my assertions, but flooding the thread With links in an attempt to derail the discussion on here. He should be called The Shadow, haha.

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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #104 on: June 15, 2015, 10:27:59 AM »

El Señor Esquivez.  :-\


Zero is what you are posting when trying to sound cool after being repudiated for your (lack of) perspective.


'sound cool'....maybe we should all carry backpacks, and paint pimples on our faces like we are in high school.....really very silly.


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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #105 on: June 15, 2015, 10:29:09 AM »

'sound cool'....maybe we should all carry backpacks, and paint pimples on our faces like we are in high school.....really very silly.


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Hey, I'm not the one with the passive-aggressive behavior.  ;)
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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #106 on: June 15, 2015, 10:33:10 AM »

Hey, I'm not the one with the passive-aggressive behavior.  ;)


YES you are actually....which is likely why you continue to point it out.  :D


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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #108 on: June 16, 2015, 03:35:46 AM »
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But they have no interest in this war of shelling their own.

That is either spoken out of the depths of stupidity and ignorance, or simply a lie.
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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #109 on: June 16, 2015, 02:30:13 PM »
Natural:
That is either spoken out of the depths of stupidity and ignorance, or simply a lie.

Put Your boot up where it belongs.

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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #110 on: June 16, 2015, 03:00:39 PM »
..............
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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #111 on: June 16, 2015, 03:03:37 PM »
Former President of Georgia, now governator of Odessa finally gives it straight:

Yes, Saakashvili has actually come clean with the people of Odessa: Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe, and it will take twenty years just to return to the economic productivity Ukraine had in 2013. Thanks Maidan.

http://russia-insider.com/en/saakashvili-ukraine-will-return-pre-maidan-gdp-levelin-20-years/ri8054



As we are into the subject of this ex-president of Georgia, a fugitive, here's a little about the situation back then, from Putin:

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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #112 on: June 16, 2015, 03:23:06 PM »
It's not Maidan to blame.  The fact that Ukrainian politicians, and especially your boy Yanukovych and his Party of Regions minions, stole billions from Ukraine's treasury, is why Ukraine is poor.  That is exactly what Maidan activists were trying to change.

In Donbas, Ukraine's richest man thought he could control events, and he funded the terrorists for a time.  He was proven wrong.
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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #113 on: June 16, 2015, 03:37:32 PM »
It's not Maidan to blame.  The fact that Ukrainian politicians, and especially your boy Yanukovych and his Party of Regions minions, stole billions from Ukraine's treasury, is why Ukraine is poor.  That is exactly what Maidan activists were trying to change.


"My boy, Yanukovich"? How long do you expect me to take you and Your ilk seriously?
I have no affinity for him as he was just another cleptocrat like all leaders in Ukraine. But the pro-Maidan People in the west are even more Extreme than the ones in Ukraine as evidenced by the Ukrainian military commandor that on national TV said the ones now in charge is double as corrupt as Yanukovich. Western cheerleaders on the other hand is all busy whitewashing the attrocities done in eastern Ukraine and demonizing Russia and Putin.

If change for the better is really behind it all, why then not wait until elections? Oh no, it was "GO" from Washington and all the opportunistists were ready to fill their own needs and it's ridiculous to think it's got anything to do With the average Ukrainian.

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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #114 on: June 16, 2015, 06:08:24 PM »
Put Your boot up where it belongs.

Have you got a foot fetish?  :crackwhip:

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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #115 on: June 17, 2015, 03:16:11 AM »
"My boy, Yanukovich"? How long do you expect me to take you and Your ilk seriously?
I have no affinity for him as he was just another cleptocrat like all leaders in Ukraine. But the pro-Maidan People in the west are even more Extreme than the ones in Ukraine as evidenced by the Ukrainian military commandor that on national TV said the ones now in charge is double as corrupt as Yanukovich. Western cheerleaders on the other hand is all busy whitewashing the attrocities done in eastern Ukraine and demonizing Russia and Putin.

Many of the Rada's corrupt politicians are from the Party of Regions.   Others, to far lesser degrees, come from other parties.  That is why there is a strong resistance to lustration. 

I have never posted that Ukrainian politicians are honest.   But the level of kleptocracy reached unforeseen heights under Yanukovych. This is part of what Maidan activists died for.

Maidan activists at first were paid for largely by oligarchs.  Not by the West.  The movement just snowballed, as youth (largely) took centre stage.  They were not there because of the West.   That, again, demonstrates your contempt for the average Ukrainian.  They were in that square, day in and day out, because they were tired of living on less than $10 a day while others stole the wealth of the nation, and promised more of the same.  Ukrainians are not stupid.  They look West, they look East, and see which geographic area has more prosperity, more freedom, and better governance.

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If change for the better is really behind it all, why then not wait until elections?

Gee, I don't know.  Perhaps because when you and your team shoot dozens of largely peaceful protesters dead you, as the democratically elected head of a state, lose all legitimacy.  That is why the process of impeachment was commenced by the Rada.  The Americans did not do that.  Yanukovych could not have been impeached had members of his own party, the Party of Regions, not voted for his removal.  Now, unless the Americans managed to buy all of them off, that never happened, no matter how many times you or RT spew it.

Now, I don't know about Norway, but I can assure you, that if our prime minister gave an order to shoot peaceful protesters on Parliament Hill, he would not remain in office.  There would be public inquiries.  And criminal charges.  Oh, and no one would be alleging Washington set it up.

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Oh no, it was "GO" from Washington and all the opportunistists were ready to fill their own needs and it's ridiculous to think it's got anything to do With the average Ukrainian.

But it does have everything to do with the average Ukrainian.  You don't have family living in Ukraine.  I do.  They are not any happier with the current government, but most of that is because the IMF restructuring means they are paying the price for two decades of kleptocracy and mismanagement.  But Ukraine is far more democratic than it was 2 years ago, or 2 decades ago.  The constitution their president amended unilaterally has been restored.  Cronyism is not as ingrained.  And getting rid of the cancer that is the Donbas (which, BTW, was always majority ethnic Ukrainian, no matter what RT prints) will be a plus.
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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #116 on: June 17, 2015, 04:34:40 AM »
If the Protesters were Americans,, The Americans Police would of done more than Shoot a few...
They would of dropped bombs on them... Called in the Military and Labeled them all terrorists....

That is How America Does it.....

The Ukrainian Government went mush easier on the protesters than most western government Would of treated a smiler uprising....

Why the Government did not Send in police to beat the hell out of the protesters and Shoot any one who tried to stop them is beyond me....
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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #117 on: June 17, 2015, 07:15:56 AM »
How many protesters were killed at that WTO riots in Seattle?


How many protesters were killed during the Occupy Wall Street movement?


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Why the Government did not Send in police to beat the hell out of the protesters and Shoot any one who tried to stop them is beyond me....


The Maidan protesters were peaceful.  It was, and is, their right to protest corruption and anti democratic actions.
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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #118 on: June 17, 2015, 07:44:20 AM »
If the Protesters were Americans,, The Americans Police would of done more than Shoot a few...
They would of dropped bombs on them... Called in the Military and Labeled them all terrorists....

That is How America Does it.....

The Ukrainian Government went mush easier on the protesters than most western government Would of treated a smiler uprising....

Why the Government did not Send in police to beat the hell out of the protesters and Shoot any one who tried to stop them is beyond me....


Other than Kent State (in 1970) I cannot think of any American Protest where the government shot protesters. And in the Kent State case it was poorly trained and led Ohio National Guardsmen.


I hold no love of the current Administration, but I don't believe it is an evil cabal out to kill us all with vaccines and FEMA camps. These are the masturbatory fantasies of the 9/11 Truthers and the Alex Jones crowd. If you believe that U.S. troops, if ordered, would perform wholesale slaughter of it's fellow citizens, I feel sorry for you. You have reach the level of fear that I cannot fathom.


But fortunately, you are free to hate and fear your government. Our constitution gives you that right and I will fight to the death for your right to say it. Just don't expect most Americans to agree with you...


Just my 2 cents...


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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #119 on: June 17, 2015, 12:28:15 PM »

The Ukrainian Government went mush easier on the protesters than most western government Would of treated a smiler uprising....

Why the Government did not Send in police to beat the hell out of the protesters and Shoot any one who tried to stop them is beyond me....

Much easier? Really? You obviously did not see the shocking videos revealing the brutality of Ukraine's riot police in quelling student protesters – overnight, dozens of young men and women were viciously beaten to the ground, kicked hard in their exposed heads and left laying splattered in blood and barely conscious.
In the immediate aftermath of the police operation, people took to the streets to protest police violence ---- protesters poured into central Kyiv in unprecedented numbers:  Kyiv police department estimated up to 500,000  people were taking part. An estimated 1,6 million attended  the rally, according to independent media reports that based the attendance at the rally on aerial pictures taken over it.

That was the point of no return.

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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #120 on: June 17, 2015, 01:20:29 PM »

Other than Kent State (in 1970) I cannot think of any American Protest where the government shot protesters. And in the Kent State case it was poorly trained and led Ohio National Guardsmen.


I hold no love of the current Administration, but I don't believe it is an evil cabal out to kill us all with vaccines and FEMA camps. These are the masturbatory fantasies of the 9/11 Truthers and the Alex Jones crowd. If you believe that U.S. troops, if ordered, would perform wholesale slaughter of it's fellow citizens, I feel sorry for you. You have reach the level of fear that I cannot fathom.


But fortunately, you are free to hate and fear your government. Our constitution gives you that right and I will fight to the death for your right to say it. Just don't expect most Americans to agree with you...


Just my 2 cents...


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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #121 on: June 17, 2015, 01:24:54 PM »
http://www.splcenter.org/civil-rights-memorial/civil-rights-martyrs



On the Civil Rights Memorial are inscribed the names of individuals who lost their lives in the struggle for freedom during the modern Civil Rights Movement - 1954 to 1968. The martyrs include activists who were targeted for death because of their civil rights work; random victims of vigilantes determined to halt the movement; and individuals who, in the sacrifice of their own lives, brought new awareness to the struggle.

The chronology below briefly describes their lives. More information is available at the Civil Rights Memorial Center.
1955

May 7, 1955 · Belzoni, Mississippi
Rev. George Lee, one of the first black people registered to vote in Humphreys County, used his pulpit and his printing press to urge others to vote. White officials offered Lee protection on the condition he end his voter registration efforts, but Lee refused and was murdered.

 

 

August 13, 1955 · Brookhaven, Mississippi
Lamar Smith was shot dead on the courthouse lawn by a white man in broad daylight while dozens of people watched. The killer was never indicted because no one would admit they saw a white man shoot a black man. Smith had organized blacks to vote in a recent election.

 

 

August 28, 1955 · Money, Mississippi
Emmett Louis Till, a 14-year-old boy on vacation from Chicago, reportedly flirted with a white woman in a store. Three nights later, two men took Till from his bed, beat him, shot him and dumped his body in the Tallahatchie River. An all-white jury found the men innocent of murder.

 

 

October 22, 1955 · Mayflower, Texas
John Earl Reese, 16, was dancing in a café when white men fired shots into the windows. Reese was killed and two others were wounded. The shootings were part of an attempt by whites to terrorize blacks into giving up plans for a new school. (photograph unavailable)


1957

January 23, 1957 · Montgomery, Alabama
Willie Edwards Jr., a truck driver, was on his way to work when he was stopped by four Klansmen. The men mistook Edwards for another man who they believed was dating a white woman. They forced Edwards at gunpoint to jump off a bridge into the Alabama River. Edwards’ body was found three months later.

 

 

 
1959

April 25, 1959 · Poplarville, Mississippi
Mack Charles Parker, 23, was accused of raping a white woman. Three days before his case was set for trial, a masked mob took him from his jail cell, beat him, shot him and threw him in the Pearl River.

 

 

 
1961

September 25, 1961 · Liberty, Mississippi
Herbert Lee, who worked with civil rights leader Bob Moses to help register black voters, was killed by a state legislator who claimed self-defense and was never arrested. Louis Allen, a black man who witnessed the murder, was later also killed.

 

 

 
1962

April 9, 1962 · Taylorsville, Mississippi
Cpl. Roman Ducksworth Jr., a military police officer stationed in Maryland, was on leave to visit his sick wife when he was ordered off a bus by a police officer and shot dead. The police officer may have mistaken Ducksworth for a “freedom rider” who was testing bus desegregation laws.

 

 

September 30, 1962 · Oxford, Mississippi
Paul Guihard, a reporter for a French news service, was killed by gunfire from a white mob during protests over the admission of James Meredith to the University of Mississippi.

 

 

 
1963

April 23, 1963 · Attalla, Alabama
William Lewis Moore, a postman from Baltimore, was shot and killed during a one-man march against segregation. Moore had planned to deliver a letter to the governor of Mississippi urging an end to intolerance.

 

 

 

June 12, 1963 · Jackson, Mississippi
Medgar Evers, who directed NAACP operations in Mississippi, was leading a campaign for integration in Jackson when he was shot and killed by a sniper at his home.

 

 

 

September 15, 1963 · Birmingham, Alabama
Addie Mae Collins, Denise McNair, Carole Robertson and Cynthia Wesley were getting ready for church services when a bomb exploded at the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church, killing all four of the school-age girls. The church had been a center for civil rights meetings and marches.

 

September 15, 1963 · Birmingham, Alabama
Virgil Lamar Ware, 13, was riding on the handlebars of his brother’s bicycle when he was fatally shot by white teenagers. The white youths had come from a segregationist rally held in the aftermath of the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church bombing.

 

 

 
1964

January 31, 1964 · Liberty, Mississippi
Louis Allen, who witnessed the murder of civil rights worker Herbert Lee, endured years of threats, jailings and harassment. He was making final arrangements to move north on the day he was killed.

 

 

March 23, 1964 · Jacksonville, Florida
Johnnie Mae Chappell was murdered as she walked along a roadside. Her killers were white men looking for a black person to shoot following a day of racial unrest. (photograph unavailable)

April 7, 1964 · Cleveland, Ohio
Rev. Bruce Klunder was among civil rights activists who protested the building of a segregated school by placing their bodies in the way of construction equipment. Klunder was crushed to death when a bulldozer backed over him.

 

 

May 2, 1964 · Meadville, Mississippi
Henry Hezekiah Dee and Charles Eddie Moore were killed by Klansmen who believed the two were part of a plot to arm blacks in the area. (There was no such plot.) Their bodies were found during a massive search for the missing civil rights workers Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner.

 

June 21, 1964 · Philadelphia, Mississippi
James Earl Chaney, Andrew Goodman and Michael Henry Schwerner, young civil rights workers, were arrested by a deputy sheriff and then released into the hands of Klansmen who had plotted their murders. They were shot, and their bodies were buried in an earthen dam.

 

July 11, 1964 · Colbert, Georgia
Lt. Col. Lemuel Penn, a Washington, D.C., educator, was driving home from U.S. Army Reserves training when he was shot and killed by Klansmen in a passing car.

 

 

 

 
1965

February 26, 1965 · Marion, Alabama
Jimmie Lee Jackson was beaten and shot by state troopers as he tried to protect his grandfather and mother from a trooper attack on civil rights marchers. His death led to the Selma-Montgomery march and the eventual passage of the Voting Rights Act.

 

 

March 11, 1965 · Selma, Alabama
Rev. James Reeb, a Unitarian minister from Boston, was among many white clergymen who joined the Selma marchers after the attack by state troopers at the Edmund Pettus Bridge. Reeb was beaten to death by white men while he walked down a Selma street.

 

 

 

March 25, 1965 · Selma Highway, Alabama
Viola Gregg Liuzzo, a housewife and mother from Detroit, drove alone to Alabama to help with the Selma march after seeing televised reports of the attack at the Edmund Pettus Bridge. She was ferrying marchers between Selma and Montgomery when she was shot and killed by a Klansmen in a passing car.

 

June 2, 1965 · Bogalusa, Louisiana
Oneal Moore was one of two black deputies hired by white officials in an attempt to appease civil rights demands. Moore and his partner, Creed Rogers, were on patrol when they were blasted with gunfire from a passing car. Moore was killed and Rogers was wounded.

 

 

July 18, 1965 · Anniston, Alabama
Willie Brewster was on his way home from work when he was shot and killed by white men. The men belonged to the National States Rights Party, a violent neo-Nazi group whose members had been involved in church bombings and murders of blacks.

 

 

August 20, 1965 · Hayneville, Alabama
Jonathan Myrick Daniels, an Episcopal Seminary student in Boston, had come to Alabama to help with black voter registration in Lowndes County. He was arrested at a demonstration, jailed in Hayneville and then suddenly released. Moments after his release, he was shot to death by a deputy sheriff.

 

 

 
1966

January 3, 1966 · Tuskegee, Alabama
Samuel Leamon Younge Jr., a student civil rights activist, was fatally shot by a white gas station owner following an argument over segregated restrooms.

 

 

 

January 10, 1966 · Hattiesburg, Mississippi
Vernon Ferdinand Dahmer, a wealthy businessman, offered to pay poll taxes for those who couldn’t afford the fee required to vote. The night after a radio station broadcasted Dahmer’s offer, his home was firebombed. Dahmer died later from severe burns.

 

 

June 10, 1966 · Natchez, Mississippi
Ben Chester White, who had worked most of his life as a caretaker on a plantation, had no involvement in civil rights work. He was murdered by Klansmen who thought they could divert attention from a civil rights march by killing a black person.

 

 

July 30, 1966 · Bogalusa, Louisiana
Clarence Triggs was a bricklayer who had attended civil rights meetings sponsored by the Congress of Racial Equality. He was found dead on a roadside, shot through the head. (photograph unavailable)


1967

February 27, 1967 · Natchez, Mississippi
Wharlest Jackson, the treasurer of his local NAACP chapter, was one of many blacks who received threatening Klan notices at his job. After Jackson was promoted to a position previously reserved for whites, a bomb was planted in his car. It exploded minutes after he left work one day, killing him instantly.

 

 

May 12, 1967 · Jackson, Mississippi
Benjamin Brown, a former civil rights organizer, was watching a student protest from the sidelines when he was hit by stray gunshots from police who fired into the crowd.

 

 

 
1968

February 8, 1968 · Orangeburg, South Carolina
Samuel Ephesians Hammond Jr., Delano Herman Middleton and Henry Ezekial Smith were shot and killed by police who fired on student demonstrators at the South Carolina State College campus.


April 4, 1968 · Memphis, Tennessee
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., a Baptist minister, was a major architect of the Civil Rights Movement. He led and inspired major non-violent desegregation campaigns, including those in Montgomery and Birmingham. He won the Nobel peace prize. He was assassinated as he prepared to lead a demonstration in Memphis.
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« Reply #122 on: June 17, 2015, 01:27:44 PM »
7,000 Arrested in Capital War Protest; 150 Are Hurt as Clashes Disrupt Traffic

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In 1981, MOVE relocated to a row house at 6221 Osage Avenue in the Cobbs Creek area of West Philadelphia. After the move, neighbors complained for years that MOVE members were broadcasting political messages by bullhorn at all hours and also about the health hazards created from piles of compost. On May 13, 1985, after the complaints as well as indictments of numerous[quantify] MOVE members for crimes including parole violations, contempt of court, illegal possession of firearms, and making terrorist threats,[11] both mayor W. Wilson Goode and Philadelphia Police Department Commissioner Gregor Sambor had begun characterizing MOVE as a terrorist organization.[12] The police, along with city manager and retired United States Army General Leo Brooks, arrived in force with arrest warrants and attempted to clear the building and arrest the indicted MOVE members.[12] This led to an armed standoff with police,[13] who lobbed tear gas canisters at the building. MOVE members fired at the police, who returned fire with automatic weapons.[14] Philadelphia Police Department Commissioner Sambor then ordered that the compound be bombed.[14] From a Pennsylvania State Police helicopter, Philadelphia Police Department Lt. Frank Powell proceeded to drop two one-pound bombs (which the police referred to as "entry devices"[12]) made of FBI-supplied water gel explosive, a dynamite substitute, targeting a fortified, bunker-like cubicle on the roof of the house.[15]

The resulting explosions ignited a fire that eventually destroyed approximately 65 nearby houses. The firefighters, who had earlier deluge-hosed the MOVE members in a failed attempt to evict them from the building, stood by as the fire caused by the bomb engulfed the first house and spread to others, having been given orders to let the fire burn. Officials feared that MOVE would shoot at the firefighters, as they had done before.[5][14][15][16] Eleven people (John Africa, five other adults and five children aged 7 to 13) died in the resulting fire and more than 250 people were left homeless.[17] Ramona Africa, one of the two survivors, stated that police fired at those trying to escape the burning house, while the police stated that MOVE members had been firing at police.[18]
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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #123 on: June 17, 2015, 01:35:08 PM »
I am not a 9/11 Lib-Tard.... I am not involved in Right Wing Politics...  No sir...

I will say that American Police are much more likely to shoot than police in Ukraine seem to be.

Considering every other Week Police are Killing Poor Americans, It makes the News very often...

If at the 1999 WTO protest.. People started to throw Gas and Shoot at officers.. I have no doubt in my mind that the police would of slaughtered them..

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Re: Anti-fascist news
« Reply #124 on: June 17, 2015, 02:09:47 PM »
I am not a 9/11 Lib-Tard.... I am not involved in Right Wing Politics...  No sir...

I will say that American Police are much more likely to shoot than police in Ukraine seem to be.

Considering every other Week Police are Killing Poor Americans, It makes the News very often...

If at the 1999 WTO protest.. People started to throw Gas and Shoot at officers.. I have no doubt in my mind that the police would of slaughtered them..


That so many were killed in fighting for their Civil Rights is horrible, but not government sanctioned. I am talking Federal Government, not local yokel gomers in the south. Again 95% + of the police are fine people and would never fire their sidearm unless in self defense (of themselves or others). In your earlier statement that I responded to, you play into the erroneous view that Americans shoot first and ask questions later. I could go into the statistics, but it would be pointless and is easily Googled and or Binged.


You seem to fear the police. Maybe you have had bad experiences with them. But like all people, some are good, some are a-holes. I treat people as they as individuals are, not by the group. I am pro-Ukraine, but I am not anti-Russian. I am very much anti-Putin.


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