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[Faux Pas]

And regarding tax rates:

One must be careful to distinguish between average tax rate paid and marginal tax rates.

Just because someone pays a tax rate of 37 or 39.5 percent on the last few dollars of taxable income doesn't give a tax rate of 37 or 39.5 % paid.

But, our tax code is unfair . . . and unfair to those at the top.

The main unfairness is that a large percent of Americans pay zero income taxes . . . yet still having full voting rights to elect those who will continue this unfair situation.

There can be zillions of examples; but I know of one that points out the silliness of our system, which is probably even more evident in the socialist countries.

This situation involves two brothers that my family knows.

The one brother worked his way through college, worked his butt off all his life and built quite a nest egg for himself and his family . . . so he thought.

The other brother never held a full time job very long, drew unemployment for as many months as he could, then worked a little while longer, etc.  He enjoyed life to the fullest, went to all the races, every weekend at lake, etc., while his brother was slaving away at the books or at work, etc.

Now in retirement years, the hard working brother is still paying fairly hefty taxes on his retirement income and has about $500 extra (above and beyond the standard)  deducted as a 'success tax' from his SS check for medicare because his income is 'excessive.'

The lazy brother has better insurance through Medicaid, gets food stamps, gets rebates of negative income taxes and is in much better health because he never worked hard or worried about much.  And his kids love him much more than the successful man's kids do because he spent more quality time with them.

A great incentive system we have in USA which is getting worse every year.

Ah the American Dream. Give your brother my regards 

[sleepycat]

Oh dear! Another one of the botox dwarf's warplanes fell out of the sky...

http://news.yahoo.com/strategic-bomber-crashes-russia-crew-parachutes-104721092.html

Is it really that hard to build a plane that can fly and then land in one piece?
 

[Anotherkiwi]

Oh dear! Another one of the botox dwarf's warplanes fell out of the sky...

http://news.yahoo.com/strategic-bomber-crashes-russia-crew-parachutes-104721092.html

Is it really that hard to build a plane that can fly and then land in one piece?
 

Another report that describes the Tu-95 as a jet.  There's a huge photo at the top of the article - does this "reporter" not know the difference between a jet and a turboprop aircraft?

[Manny]

I'm sure there is room for more than one viewpoint (including Manny's) on the subject of Ukriane/Russia.   


Fathertime!

Not here there isn't. Anyone not chanting Slava Ukraina is drowned out with white noise, insults and/or silly accusations. As we see here.

[jone]

Quite honestly, not everyone is drowned out.  But certainly some hack like yourself, we will be happy to make an exception for.  Your Anti-American and fascist views are well known on this forum.  (Did I say fascist?  Hmm.  Yup.  That exactly describes you.)

I had the opportunity to read your Twitter account recently.  About halfway through the first page, I had to leave for the toilet .... and throw up.   I have never seen such bigotry and hate coming from a Twitter account.  And absolute unbending support for the far right of Russia.

You've done a great job of hiding your true prejudices through the years.  But now the koshka is out of the bag.

[Boethius]

Not here there isn't. Anyone not chanting Slava Ukraina is drowned out with white noise, insults and/or silly accusations. As we see here.

As more and more evidence of Russia's role in creating the war in Ukraine is revealed, plausible deniability becomes increasingly more difficult to defend for those who wish to maintain any semblance of credibility.  That is why those posts aren't here.  It has little to do with Ukraine, insults, or accusations.

[Manny]

As more and more evidence of America's role in creating the war in Ukraine is revealed, plausible deniability becomes increasingly more difficult to defend for those who wish to maintain any semblance of credibility.  That is why those posts aren't here.  It has little to do with Ukraine, insults, or accusations.

I fixed that for you.

[Darth_Budda]

I am with you Manny...

I know a lot of people who understand the USA role in the overthrow of the government of Ukraine...

The American Ultra Nationalist, always think USA #1...  The USA can do no evil!!!

Bull... complete Bull...
Truth is even in Ukraine the people in the west understand the Oligarchs who took control have only made the country more corrupt..
They profit from the war while poor Ukrainians die.

[Изумруд]

I fixed that for you.

Don't let Brass catch you here manny ..........   

[fathertime]

I am with you Manny...

I know a lot of people who understand the USA role in the overthrow of the government of Ukraine...

The American Ultra Nationalist, always think USA #1...  The USA can do no evil!!!

Bull... complete Bull...
Truth is even in Ukraine the people in the west understand the Oligarchs who took control have only made the country more corrupt..
They profit from the war while poor Ukrainians die.

Although conveniently forgotten, the US invaded Panama in 1989, and killed up to several thousand, including many civilians.  Here was the 1st justification:




Safeguarding the lives of U.S. citizens in Panama. In his statement, Bush claimed that Noriega had declared that a state of war existed between the U.S. and Panama and that he threatened the lives of the approximately 35,000 U.S. citizens living there. There had been numerous clashes between U.S. and Panamanian forces; one U.S. Marine had been killed a few days earlier.

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  [/size]....Sounds a little like 'defending the native speakers in Ukraine'....If we can do it (the US), then others will take the same liberties.   [/color]
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  [/size]The UN voted 75-20 that the invasion was a flagrant violation of International law.  [/color]
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  [/size]Fathertime! [/color]

[BdHvA]

Although conveniently forgotten, the US invaded Panama in 1989, and killed up to several thousand, including many civilians. 

Lets rephrase the above; conveneintly forgotten, the USSR (Russia for the challenged) invaded Afghanistan in 1979 which resulted in using conservative estimates over a million civilian deaths, for the good order that is six zero's as opposed to four.

Further Panama is a functioning democracy today compared the quagmire that is Afghanistan. Did Russia assume any responsibility in the post Soviet Afghanistan after there cowardly withdrawl?

[Boethius]

I am a stooge who is willing to spread Russian propaganda online for some potential perceived personal benefit from an authoritarian state known to eliminate those who dare to attempt to expose its corruption.

There.  Fixed that for you.

[Boethius]

I am with you Manny...

I know a lot of people who understand the USA role in the overthrow of the government of Ukraine...

The American Ultra Nationalist, always think USA #1...  The USA can do no evil!!!

Bull... complete Bull...
Truth is even in Ukraine the people in the west understand the Oligarchs who took control have only made the country more corrupt..
They profit from the war while poor Ukrainians die.

While oligarchs do control most of Ukraine's wealth, that has little to do with the United States.  Oligarchs also control most of Russia's wealth.


The United States did not organize Euromaidan.  Anyone who believes otherwise has utter contempt for the average Ukrainian.

[Boethius]

BTW, every oligarch in Russia and Ukraine is part of the former nomenklatura.

[Boethius]

Although conveniently forgotten, the US invaded Panama in 1989, and killed up to several thousand, including many civilians.  Here was the 1st justification:




Safeguarding the lives of U.S. citizens in Panama. In his statement, Bush claimed that Noriega had declared that a state of war existed between the U.S. and Panama and that he threatened the lives of the approximately 35,000 U.S. citizens living there. There had been numerous clashes between U.S. and Panamanian forces; one U.S. Marine had been killed a few days earlier.

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  ....Sounds a little like 'defending the native speakers in Ukraine'....If we can do it (the US), then others will take the same liberties.   
  
  The UN voted 75-20 that the invasion was a flagrant violation of International law. 
  
  Fathertime!

You conveniently forget that in that same year, the USSR set its troops on its own people in Tbilisi after peaceful demonstrations for change.  One victim, a 16 year old girl, was chased down and beaten to death by Soviet soldiers.

This was repeated in Vilnius in 1991.

[fathertime]

Lets rephrase the above; conveneintly forgotten, the USSR (Russia for the challenged) invaded Afghanistan in 1979 which resulted in using conservative estimates over a million civilian deaths, for the good order that is six zero's as opposed to four.
 

The website members have NOT forgotten Afghanistan, it has been brought up many times.  I hadn't seen Panama brought up too often though, and it makes no difference if it is a 'democracy' now, and that Afghanistan is a quagmire, as WE are contributed to that being the case. 

It was certainly justified in Panama. I was living there during the invasion and we as American citizens were in danger. I was shot at walking home during one of the protests by the Doberman squad (Noriega's private guard).The majority of the "civilians" that were killed were located in a neighborhood where his armed guards were stationed and were loyal to Noriega and mostly criminals. That same neighborhood today is home to violent armed murderers and drug dealers.

The UN did not agree.  Their vote brought to the table by Cuba was a resounding 75-20 against what we did.   So where were the sanctions, like we call for?  Seems like a double standard.  Most of Europe voted with the US of course...More hypocrites. 


http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1989/URGENT-General-Assembly-Condemns-Panama-Invasion-75-20/id-f968dc18cc41ccc76a33b43baf4018b4








Here is another amusing tidbit:

Some claim that the Panamanian people overwhelmingly supported the invasion.[50] According to a CBS poll, 92% of Panamanian adults supported the U.S. incursion, and 76% wished that U.S. forces had invaded in October during the coup.[50] However, others dispute this finding, asserting that the Panamanian surveys were conducted in wealthy, English-speaking neighborhoods in Panama City, among Panamanians most likely to support U.S. actions


So 92% approved huh?  Just like 98% of people of Crimea approved.  The parallels are evident.. 

Fathertime! 

[Anathema]

There.  Fixed that for you.

I actually agreed with Boe and she made me laugh.  Pretty sure that's one of the signs of the apocalypse.... 

[sleepycat]

Looks like the botox midget is totally clueless about Economics 101... 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/42-billion-debt-trap-putin-210001729.html

[The Natural]

The main unfairness is that a large percent of Americans pay zero income taxes . . . yet still having full voting rights to elect those who will continue this unfair situation.

Ehh, are you suggesting only well-off Citizens should be allowed to vote?
I Wonder if this line of thinking is wide-spread among Americans. I hope not.

[LiveFromUkraine]

Ehh, are you suggesting only well-off Citizens should be allowed to vote?
I Wonder if this line of thinking is wide-spread among Americans. I hope not.

I don't think he means well-off as in rich. 


What it comes down to is a great deal of people are not paying taxes and voting candidates in that promise them stuff.  This is the reasoning for this stance.  Supposedly those paying taxes and higher up the economical food chain are better informed and will vote for the betterment of the country. 


Now, you and me understand that most will vote for their own self interest. 

You can see many of the people here that only care about what is in it for them.  It comes down to control, and those that are losing it are desperate and would have no problem taking away rights of others to push their own self interests.  These are the same people who complain at the thought of their rights being taken away. 

[jone]

I understand where you're coming from, LFU.  But here in Los Angeles, we have things taken to the other extreme.  For instance, we have a guy that I know that works as an independent landscaper.  He has his own business, his own (semi) heavy machinery.  He drives a 2014 Jaguar and has a nice life.

Here is the kicker:  He does it all through his (almost) wife's name.  According to the law he is not married and on subsistence.  He gets food stamps for he and his kids.  Is on welfare.  And has a whole second income courtesy of the government.

Social programs create graft and corruption and mentality of what is in it for me.  Most of the guys on here, even those of the more liberal persuasion, are not going to try to make money off the system. 

[Darth_Budda]

Ehh, are you suggesting only well-off Citizens should be allowed to vote?
I Wonder if this line of thinking is wide-spread among Americans. I hope not.

Rich White Racist Republicans.. Mostly...

A small but vocal minority..   Also called  " The Good old boys Club"

[Darth_Budda]

I understand where you're coming from, LFU.  But here in Los Angeles, we have things taken to the other extreme.  For instance, we have a guy that I know that works as an independent landscaper.  He has his own business, his own (semi) heavy machinery.  He drives a 2014 Jaguar and has a nice life.

Here is the kicker:  He does it all through his (almost) wife's name.  According to the law he is not married and on subsistence.  He gets food stamps for he and his kids.  Is on welfare.  And has a whole second income courtesy of the government.

Social programs create graft and corruption and mentality of what is in it for me.  Most of the guys on here, even those of the more liberal persuasion, are not going to try to make money off the system.

I don't like the idea of a Pure Welfare state...

People need jobs not hand outs... If the private sector can not make the jobs required. the public sector must step in and create the jobs..

[Larry1]

If the private sector can not make the jobs required. the public sector must step in and create the jobs..

Russia tried that, from roughly 1918 - 1991. You could get a nice job at a collective farm, working in the healthful outdoors.  Or if farming wasn't your thing you could get a job at People's Tractor Factory No. 12, manufacturing tractors for the comrades at the collective farms. Or, if fighting enemies of the State and the Party were more up your alley, you could apply for a job at the CHEKA, OGPU, NKVD, etc.

The USSR was an effin' paradise of full employment. Don't let those rich white Republicans, kulaks, and other capitalist lackeys tell you different.

[fathertime]

I understand where you're coming from, LFU.  But here in Los Angeles, we have things taken to the other extreme.  For instance, we have a guy that I know that works as an independent landscaper.  He has his own business, his own (semi) heavy machinery.  He drives a 2014 Jaguar and has a nice life.

Here is the kicker:  He does it all through his (almost) wife's name.  According to the law he is not married and on subsistence.  He gets food stamps for he and his kids.  Is on welfare.  And has a whole second income courtesy of the government.

Social programs create graft and corruption and mentality of what is in it for me.  Most of the guys on here, even those of the more liberal persuasion, are not going to try to make money off the system.

The acquaintance you describe is pretty much a criminal.  Somewhere on those welfare papers he must be lying.  The benefits shouldn't be changed because of leeches like this.  The leeches should actually be prosecuted but nobody much seems to care. 


I have an acquaintance here in CA.  He is a tightwad multimillionaire. Retired around age 45.  I don't know how he does it, but he somehow keeps his reportable investment income below around 12 or 15k, so he can qualify for good old Obamacare.  With his net worth he should be making at least 40-60k a year residual income...minimum...but free Obamacare is more important to him.  He may keep most of the money in a few safety deposit boxes for all I know...but he is loaded.  For every idiot like him, there are probably 10 people that the Welfare/Obamacare truly makes a difference, so I look at it as the cost of doing business....but prosecute them when possible. 


Fathertime!