Single-Bride-Agency

[rogerrab]

Hello Everyone, just dropping off a bit of info, singlebrideagency.com.  I think this is the first site of its kind I have run into.  An organized monthly pay scam site.  Botnet programs send out emails constantly to members, especially if they have not paid for the three month recurring membership of $60.  Women at the site can be found to be married or have boyfriends.  Many that are on VK cannot be contacted because they have disabled that function for "non-friends".  And the few that you can actually talk with are pro daters.  Of course, the same scam of getting men to fly over.  Then to rent from an expensive apartment "nearby" so it is convenient.  Then there are translator fees, expensive cab rides, restaurants, etc.

It looks like the pay by letter sites are taking a beating and are coming up with new ways to make money.  So please warn everyone.  It probably isn't the first site like this and most certainly it will not be the last.

Anyone know off hand how much the scam industry has lost this year?  It seems like it has been a lot because of the war.

[TagUrIt898]

There will always be scam sites out there unfortunately. At some point guys have to take responsibility and NOT delude themselves.  There are far too many reputable sites out there to be taken for a ride these days.

The way I see it, is if you're too lazy to do your research about FSUW and the sites that have good quality women, then maybe you deserve to be scammed.

Tag

[rogerrab]

I know you guys like to be harsh here.  That is your right.  But I think it is kind of weird claiming people deserve to be scammed.  Just a few years ago, there was zero information out on the internet about the scam infrastructure in Ukraine and CIS.  And little by little men got the courage to divulge their experiences instead of being ashamed to share.  They were able to head off other men who were going to get ripped off in a similar fashion.  I just think it is wrong-headed to point fingers and laugh.  Why not advise and consult?  Especially when we need information about how these scams are evolving.  We might just save a life. 

This site is much different than the pay by letter model.  It uses a recurring membership model, 60 bucks for three months.  The only way to stop rebilling is to stop it via paypal.  There is no customer service to speak of.  And they use botnet programs and a handful of women to make things look legit.  The few that are there are pro daters or women who lent their pics.

Since this represents a departure from the normal PPL scam, I thought it worth mentioning.  There are plenty of greenhorns who think PPL is the only scam.  And the less money we give the mafia in Ukraine, the more quickly this infrastructure will fail.  And the faster Ukraine will have a chance to build an actual economy.

I figure its like this.  You can do two things.  Make the world a better place. . .or make it worse.

I just choose the former.

Thanks,

[Faux Pas]

I know you guys like to be harsh here.  That is your right.  But I think it is kind of weird claiming people deserve to be scammed.  Just a few years ago, there was zero information out on the internet about the scam infrastructure in Ukraine and CIS.  And little by little men got the courage to divulge their experiences instead of being ashamed to share.  They were able to head off other men who were going to get ripped off in a similar fashion.  I just think it is wrong-headed to point fingers and laugh.  Why not advise and consult?  Especially when we need information about how these scams are evolving.  We might just save a life. 

It's not a matter of being harsh and it is wrong headed to point fingers and laugh. That's not the intention of this forum and most who post here do not want anyone to get scammed. Many men new and starting out in this venture do not want advice, they only want their fantasies reinforced and rubber stamped as truth. It is those that generally get met with some harsh replies. This forum is to help and assist those newbies looking for good information on meeting, dating and marrying FSUW. Quite frankly, it has done a damn fine job of that for over 10 years now. Like any other assembly of folks everyone isn't going to agree and I see that as a good thing.

Good advice isn't always what everyone usually wants to hear but, good advice is usually what a newbie finds at RWD

I figure its like this.  You can do two things.  Make the world a better place. . .or make it worse.

I just choose the former.

Splendid! You appear to be speaking from a position of experience then, you should stick around and practice what you preach. You could start with a thread introducing yourself in the introduction section.

[TagUrIt898]

Roger my comment wasn't because I like to be harsh.  It was the truth, which can save someone's life and a lot of money.  The quest for love is hard enough as it is in the U.S.  When you enter he realm of international dating you need to arm yourself with as much information as possible. That was my point, if you're naive enough to not do your research, homework or ask questions, than yeah don't expect a fairytale ending.  It's not a few years ago, it's today and there is a TON of information here on this site and others like it. 

With all that being said, even with as much information that a person may have there are no guarantees.  Since I have been on this board I've have learned that knowledge, A LOT OF COMMON sense and a lotta bit of luck go a long way in the pursuit.

Do I want some guy/girl to get scammed? Honestly, no not at all, but that person has a lot of control over whether or not that happens or not.


Tag

[rogerrab]

Look, I know many men are stuck in the Matrix.  And they love it there.  Some men need that fantasy.  I am not talking about them.  I am talking about the men who type find-bride scam into the google search engine and can't get any information but what the scam sites give them.  I don't know where all this other stuff comes from.  I never said the forum wasn't a good forum.  It is probably the best forum on the net for understanding how to date, court, and marry a Russian/Ukrainian woman.

All I did was post information about a newer type of scam website.  Aren't we on the same side?  If my information is not needed or useless in your opinion, just say so.  I have a different opinion.  Otherwise I would not have posted.

There is a good reason why I made this post.  Believe it or not.

And if you guys want me to introduce myself.  I will. 

Thank you.

 

[jone]

I know you guys like to be harsh here.  That is your right.  But I think it is kind of weird claiming people deserve to be scammed.  Just a few years ago, there was zero information out on the internet about the scam infrastructure in Ukraine and CIS.  And little by little men got the courage to divulge their experiences instead of being ashamed to share.  They were able to head off other men who were going to get ripped off in a similar fashion.  I just think it is wrong-headed to point fingers and laugh.  Why not advise and consult?  Especially when we need information about how these scams are evolving.  We might just save a life. 

This site is much different than the pay by letter model.  It uses a recurring membership model, 60 bucks for three months.  The only way to stop rebilling is to stop it via paypal.  There is no customer service to speak of.  And they use botnet programs and a handful of women to make things look legit.  The few that are there are pro daters or women who lent their pics.

Since this represents a departure from the normal PPL scam, I thought it worth mentioning.  There are plenty of greenhorns who think PPL is the only scam.  And the less money we give the mafia in Ukraine, the more quickly this infrastructure will fail.  And the faster Ukraine will have a chance to build an actual economy.

I figure its like this.  You can do two things.  Make the world a better place. . .or make it worse.

I just choose the former.

Thanks,

Good Post.  Hang around.

[Faux Pas]

Look, I know many men are stuck in the Matrix.  And they love it there.  Some men need that fantasy.  I am not talking about them.  I am talking about the men who type find-bride scam into the google search engine and can't get any information but what the scam sites give them.  I don't know where all this other stuff comes from.  I never said the forum wasn't a good forum.  It is probably the best forum on the net for understanding how to date, court, and marry a Russian/Ukrainian woman.

All I did was post information about a newer type of scam website.  Aren't we on the same side?  If my information is not needed or useless in your opinion, just say so.  I have a different opinion.  Otherwise I would not have posted.

There is a good reason why I made this post.  Believe it or not.

And if you guys want me to introduce myself.  I will. 

Thank you.

Those guys come through here with regularity, too. So often in fact it can become quite challenging to discern who to help and who to ignore. I don't even bother with folks anymore until they tip their hand that they are needing and want some help.

I thought your posts and this thread was informative. Personally, it's not information that I've need for a long time now but, I thought it would be useful to some. I wouldn't have even posted until you did knocking the forum as a whole. It is the best forum on the net of it's genre. Is it perfect? No, absolutely not. It's contributors are human and as such it is chock full of human response but, there's a lot of good nuggets in that response.

Many guys find this forum with their heads firmly stuck in their ass. Some manage to get it removed but many don't. Some of both are still posting here but even then, both have something to contribute for those that come looking for it.

Yes we would like for you to introduce yourself and stick around. Welcome to RWD

[rogerrab]

Roger my comment wasn't because I like to be harsh.  It was the truth, which can save someone's life and a lot of money.  The quest for love is hard enough as it is in the U.S.  When you enter he realm of international dating you need to arm yourself with as much information as possible. That was my point, if you're naive enough to not do your research, homework or ask questions, than yeah don't expect a fairytale ending.  It's not a few years ago, it's today and there is a TON of information here on this site and others like it. 

With all that being said, even with as much information that a person may have there are no guarantees.  Since I have been on this board I've have learned that knowledge, A LOT OF COMMON sense and a lotta bit of luck go a long way in the pursuit.

Do I want some guy/girl to get scammed? Honestly, no not at all, but that person has a lot of control over whether or not that happens or not.


Tag

I just disagree.  I have looked at this forum for years.  It is a good place.  But the attitude seems to be, if you got scammed. . .haha. . .

I don't think that helps men to come out, seek information, and share what happened to them.  It drives them away and everyone knows where they are going.  The scam is evolving because the crap sites are bleeding money and women.  They are going to change with the times.  Men need a serious upgrade in strategy.  I just talked to a man who ran into a post-trip visa scam.  That's right.  He ran into his lady and her mafia goon boyfriend, after he arrived to see her.  And he was using an honest site. 

Maybe you don't agree, but I think that is valuable information. And it needs to be on blast at every forum, website, and dating community on the net.  He could have been killed for the few dollars he had in his pocket.  Her name should be on blast and so should her mafia boyfriend. But we don't have the awesome infrastructure the scammers have in Ukraine.  It would be nice to build it though.  Rather than just say. . ."you're on your own".  That's the one thing scammers do not say to one another.

[rogerrab]

Good Post.  Hang around.

Thank you sir.

[rogerrab]

Those guys come through here with regularity, too. So often in fact it can become quite challenging to discern who to help and who to ignore. I don't even bother with folks anymore until they tip their hand that they are needing and want some help.

I thought your posts and this thread was informative. Personally, it's not information that I've need for a long time now but, I thought it would be useful to some. I wouldn't have even posted until you did knocking the forum as a whole. It is the best forum on the net of it's genre. Is it perfect? No, absolutely not. It's contributors are human and as such it is chock full of human response but, there's a lot of good nuggets in that response.

Many guys find this forum with their heads firmly stuck in their ass. Some manage to get it removed but many don't. Some of both are still posting here but even then, both have something to contribute for those that come looking for it.

Yes we would like for you to introduce yourself and stick around. Welcome to RWD

I don't think the forum needs to be perfect. 

I am kind of "harsh" myself.  I have been told I am too hard on the scammers.  I have been criticized for being too negative.  But the most hurtful criticism I received was from a man who said I give dangerous advice.  Because I tell men about "honest" services to use for dating in Ukraine.  He told me point blank, I am going to get a man killed.  That one left me gasping for air.  I realize now, this is a serious game.

I don't think this forum is a bad place.  Truly.  I just want to say, if you guys can, just go a little easier on the scam victims.  It is advice.  You can listen to it. . .or just ignore it.  I will recommend this forum as a source of information, regardless.

 

[BillyB]

if you're naive enough to not do your research, homework or ask questions, than yeah don't expect a fairytale ending.

Some people learn life the hard way and getting scammed is the way they wake up and wise up. Unfortunately nobody deserves to be robbed no matter how stupid they are. It's great if people find information on the internet to help get through this endeavor but reality is most people do not care to find information or don't know it's out there. They're looking for love and don't expect to run into gold diggers, pro daters, and green card girls. Most men don't even know what a green card is and that it isn't even green.

I just want to say, if you guys can, just go a little easier on the scam victims.

Some people do go easy on them. Some will always go hard. We've all been scammed before and some people choose not to embarrass themselves. Others sacrifice their dignity to warn others.

[GatoMoon]

singlebrideagency.com. 

Hello Roger


This site no longer exist - at least from here.  LOL