Fiancee visa requirement? Need advise..

[jb]

Geesh, T/G, for God's sake, switch to decaf~!

Some people think you are a real SOB.

Actually, nobody has called me that in a long time, I miss it.  However, on to the issue you raised, in several of your posts you have alluded that I am not an expert, well, I never claimed to be one, I'm not a lawyer and always remind anyone of that fact.  Although I do claim to have some knowledge about the immigration process which I'm happy to share with anyone in need of that information.  In those several posted exchanges regarding the law pertaining to income requirements, you finally turned a corner for all to see.  What I found laughable was those parts of my posts which was once supposedly proof of my ineptitude and unexpertness, suddenly was reinvented as having been irrelevant all along.

That was almost classic.

[BC]

Don't have much time to expound or really read all of this thread but my immediate thoughts are:

If you don't have at least 25k disposable cash to get your chosen mate into your new home and somewhat settled in the first few months think twice. 

If your job or business is in any kind of flux situation your attention should be on getting these aspects resolved before making any kind of personal commitments.  A RW in 'in the bush' will eat up an enormous amount of time... you may end up loosing your job, investments, bride or even all.

Take care of #1 (yourself) first.  Only then can you provide real substance that others you invite into your life can depend upon.

I just briefly skimmed the thread so apologize in advance if off the mark.

 

[KenC]

Nah, BC,
You pretty well summed up the proper advice.  In conclusion, Sorry George, but you should wait a while til your financial situation stabilizes.  Focus on your new business and the very best luck to you!
KenC

[Turboguy]

jb, I don't remember questioning your expertise at all.  The part I questioned most was forming opinions with too little data, for example saying he can not afford it without really knowing much about his finances.  

BC, I think you were talking about the same thing we all are and I would say that is good advice.

[KenC]

BC, I think you were talking about the same thing we all are and I would say that is good advice.

Really now Turbo?
I must have missed the part where you said anything remotely close to what BC just posted.
KenC

[jb]

I must have missed the part where you said anything remotely close to what BC just posted.

ROFLMFAO, T/G is busy reinventing *spin*, he missed his calling.  He shoulda been a politician.

[Turboguy]

I said we were talking about the same thing not that we were viewing it in the same way.

I think our opinion of what George should do is not as much different as it might seem.  If George can not afford to support her or to see the process through I agree he should put his romance plans on hold.

Maybe I should have said this earlier.  I have not been arguing if he should proceed.  I have been saying that we don't know enough about his finances.  I have been saying there were a lot of facts that were invented and not based on data he provided in this post. I have been talking about what the law is in regard to this issue.

No as far as what he should do.  If he can't afford to support her and can't afford to see the process through, he would be a blooming idiot to try.  It would be bad for her and bad for him.  He does not strike me as someone who has spent much time in soup kitchens and bread lines.

If he can and the business seems to be going where he hopes and he has enough assets to keep him going until the business is prosperous then the advice in my posts, Jets posts, jb's posts may help him know what to do to successfully get his visa.

Shadows comment was also good.  I did not realize this was the coke gal but she should be able to get a visa easy enough and if George has to wait, that may make it easier.

[KenC]

Turbo,
Do you even read the crap you write? Unfortunately, I do. How in the world can you write:

If he can't afford to support her and can't afford to see the process through, he would be a blooming idiot to try

When you just posted the following crap?:

My suggestion if you are determined to go ahead is to find a co-sponsor now, but try to have enough income by the time you get to AOS to do it on your own.   The income requirements are not that high so if your business continues to improve you should be there, if not you can always work the night shift at Mickey Dee's to supplement your income".

I will stay with what I said before.  Since you have been living on your savings if you have around $ 30,000 or more left in your savings you have a chance of selling it to the embassy.
 Dreams can come true but you need to focus.

 Try to get her back.  Get some income this year and you will be ok.

George, don't give up on your gal.  You are a guy who is brave enough to lay everything on the line for your dreams.   It is not easy to focus on two dreams at once but you can do it.  Go for it George.   You can win her back

Are you on some new medication? Or did your evil twin steal your handle to post these?  Five posts misleading the poor guy to think he has a chance and then one that admits it is hopeless. Wow!  Will the real Turbo please stand up?
KenC

[jb]

T/G,

I sent you an explanitory PM.  Maybe it will open your eyes a bit.

[Ste]

This is a bit off topic but interesting all the same, here in UK it is possible to bring your Russian wife or Fiancee here even if you are claiming benefits and don't/can't/won't work or otherwise have no capital and have limited funds.

The simple requirement is that the settling person does not have recourse to public funds, in other words, she (or he now) cannot cost the Gov any extra in Dole, Income Support or any other Benefit.

So so long as you can prove that you'll get the visa. Not saying it's easy but lots manage it especially those on Disability Benefit who seem to sponsor an awful lot of Filipinas.....

I'm no fan of our immigration policy but I dunno which is worse, yours or ours? Who has the worst immigration problems? Possibly not much in it but I suppose our system has the benefit of not being so punative on Russians.

Ste

PS Ukraine 2-0 Saudi Arabia, still First Half


 

[RacerX]

Racer,

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough for you.

Let me quote for you the law regarding income requirements for family based visa applications.


The above is quoted directly from the USCIS Laws and Regulations Handbook.  Emphasis is mine.

This misinformation seems to arise whenever the financial requirements for a K-1 come up. 

The law simply states that the fiance(e)'s sponsor must ensure that he/she will not become a public charge.  As a non-immigrant the Affidavit of Financial Support, the I-864 cannot be used.  Some (actually nearly all) consulates will require an I-134 which calls for an income of 100% of the poverty level (not 125%).

For individuals who are self-employed or have other financial resources (for example, retired persons) letters, contracts, financial statements, etc. may be used to satisfy the requirements.  Having a substantial sum of money invested in a business may be proof of adequate support.

However, I tend to side with the majority here and can only wonder if this is a good time for George to be taking on more responsibility instead of simply waiting another year or so.  If he’s found the right girl, she should be willing to put off marriage until he has a more sound financial footing.

[coco]

Interesting to see that in the USA things are as silly as in EU.While an American citizen will have to provide papers and pay for them until no end your illegal immigrants will certainly marry in a way or an other.

Not much different from Europe.Reminds me the end of the Roman Empire where free citizen where so taxed that they could not marry any longer we now how that ended.

[Leslie]

Ste

I would stick to commenting on the footy.  You never applied for a fiance visa or a spouse visa did you?  (Think you posted that you helped your girlfriend get a student visa)

This is the UK law -

http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/lawandpolicy/immigrationrules/part8

See Paragraph 290.

Have you ever helped someone claiming benefits who is trying to get a fiance visa?  I have.  The guy was claiming council tax benefit. (For the Americans this waives  UK property tax because of poverty). 

 He got a flat out denial.

He was told to resubmit his application one year after he stopped all claims on public funds.  Believe me this guy tried every which way to overturn this decision.  Got nowhere.  His girlfriend dumped him.  (I will make no comment on that). 

Do you personally know a disabled guy who has married a Philippina?  Or are you basing your comments on what you read in the tabloids?

JB needs help in the FAQ section on this topic.  I think it would be better if we cooperated in generating a general advice thread.  wAfter all e are the two most active Brits on this board.

This thread smells of troll and personal argument.  No more comment here.

[Turboguy]

Turbo,
Do you even read the crap you write? Unfortunately, I do. How in the world can you write:

If he can't afford to support her and can't afford to see the process through, he would be a blooming idiot to try

When you just posted the following crap?:

 KenC[/b]

First off Ken, Leslie thinks you are a troll so you should be more careful. 

The part of my answer that seems to elude you in my posts is that Georges ability to support and persue an FSU woman is something only George knows.   We don't really have much information about Georges finances.

My posts and my opinion are that since his original question  was not about being able to afford an FSU women, I am assuming for most of my posts that he can.   

My last comment that you put if Red was intended to apply if the situation was the opposite.  If he can not afford to do it and only he knows for sure, it would be an idiot to try, particularly at a time like this.

Yes, Leslie, I know you were not talking about Ken.  I was just joking.  Good post you made.

jb.  Thanks for the PM.  I agree with some and will answer you later.   I thought it was a bit funny. I got your pm at noon and was going to reply then.  The second I hit the reply button my Screen went bright with a big flash and then dark.   At first I thought it was a sign from above.  Then I realized someone in the lunch room turned on the microwave and toaster oven at the same time which we tell them not to do.

[KenC]

And I would have thought your first reaction would be to claim jb sent you a virus! 

[Leslie]

TG,

I made no comment about you. 

Sometimes I am astounded by credulity of the members of this board 

[George_123]

We don't mean to cause all this problem for this we are sorry. Wow, just a simple question and turn out to be a big debate.
 
This is the latest news- My sweet love and I are going to Mexico for 2 weeks vacation. She appreciates you guys comment and suggestion. We are going to hang on to each other for a while. I'll start paying myself a salary starting this month. Wish us luck. Thanks a million!!!

[Turboguy]

I know you did not make any comments about me Leslie.  I was just joking.

Ken,  No, that was true, but I said it as a joke too.  The next time we get the electrician in I am going to get him to wire a new circut to my computer.  It happens too often.

George,  Glad to hear it.  I think paying yourself a salary will help when you are ready.  Hopefully next year you can more than cover it with profits.  I wish you well in your love life and your business.  Have a great time in Mexico.

Don't worry about the debate.  This is recreation for us.  The board would get boring without it.

[Michelangelo]

Has she checked on the visa to Mexico?  It's one of the most difficult ones to  obtain...

[Turboguy]

Michaelangelo has a good point.  You might want to rethink your destination to Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Bahamas or Costa Rica.  Whatever you do have fun enjoy being together.   There is a link here to the Delta site that gives a lot of info on visa requirements.  You can also do a search on the internet.  Mexico is not easy. 

[Michelangelo]

I'm thinking Troll now guys...

[Turboguy]

My vote is no but I am not saying it is impossible.  Are you a troll George?   ???

[Michelangelo]

My vote is no but I am not saying it is impossible.  Are you a troll George?   ???

If he says they have a visa to Mexico, he is... 

Have you been jiving us, George? 

[Ste]

Ste

I would stick to commenting on the footy.  You never applied for a fiance visa or a spouse visa did you?  (Think you posted that you helped your girlfriend get a student visa)

This is the UK law -

http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/lawandpolicy/immigrationrules/part8

See Paragraph 290.

Have you ever helped someone claiming benefits who is trying to get a fiance visa?  I have.  The guy was claiming council tax benefit. (For the Americans this waives  UK property tax because of poverty). 

 He got a flat out denial.

He was told to resubmit his application one year after he stopped all claims on public funds.  Believe me this guy tried every which way to overturn this decision.  Got nowhere.  His girlfriend dumped him.  (I will make no comment on that). 

Do you personally know a disabled guy who has married a Philippina?  Or are you basing your comments on what you read in the tabloids?

JB needs help in the FAQ section on this topic.  I think it would be better if we cooperated in generating a general advice thread.  wAfter all e are the two most active Brits on this board.

This thread smells of troll and personal argument.  No more comment here.

I'm frantically searching the immigration forums for examples but it is possible to get a spouse here whilst claiming benefits, admitedly not the dole-dosser total-loser type, but I have seen guys on DLA getting spouse visas. I do know the guy I mentioned (via email), he's in Manilla now. The OISC (http://www.oisc.org.uk/) guys advising him seem to think he'll be ok. This point is HE can claim benefits, but his spouse can't or increase his benefits due to her.

I'm not a lawyer but I do have a Law Degree, I'm thinking about going into Immigration Law (probably better now now tho!), so I've been hanging around these UK immigration forums for ages and one thing is for sure, for every guy denied a visa despite being loaded to the gills with evidence of relationship, there's one granted to the guy with a scrap of paper and a mobile phone bill. Seems to depend on ECO mood, and locations, from what I see Manilla and Casablanca being very tough.

Also you can be claiming public funds in general and that's no problem, almost everyone is entitled to the Children's Tax Credit (if you have kids) and Working Tax Credit and also let's not forget Child Benefit, which is given to everyone regardless of income. Also there is no problem with a couple, one of whom is subject to immigration control claiming Tax Credits. In fact you legally have to inform them if you become a couple.

http://www.ukresident.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10710

Also this forum is good:

http://www.immigrationboards.com

I know I'm no expert, but I do know there are no absolutes in this game, anything and everything is possible.....

Ste




 

[coco]

Good link Ste 

Here an other good one

www.mediavisa.forumactif.com/