Is our future fiancee or wife to be faithful???

[TheHorseman]

"The Womens rights movement was started so that Unattractive women could gain access to the jobs that attractive women get."  Rush Limbaugh

If you pay close attention to the argument between the Democ. and Repub.  The Democ's are againest big business, they are backed up by labor unions that want more money from big business. 

But, Most Democrates own the stock in those big businesses, and if it weren't for those big businesses the Labor Unions wouldn't exist.
Most Democrates don't really come from working class faimlies and Labor Unions make money from the working class families.

I just heard on CNN that they are trying to pass an ammendment that makes it againest the law to burn of dessacrate the American Flag.  The Liberal's are complaining that it will take away their rights to free speech.

Free speech is what made this country great, but when did it become OK to use that right to destroy the country.  Democrates want us to believe that they are looking out for our interest.  As if we are too stupid to do it ourselves.
Republicans want you to stand up for yourself like you are supposed too.

[PeeWee]

PeeWee,
I visited Seattle one time. Oregon, too. To be honest, I was completely shocked at the great numbers of truly unattractive women in that region. Is this an accurate observation or did I just happen to catch some bad days?

Yeah, Maria Cantwell was one the bozos behind the IMBRA legislation. Strange bedfellows on that one. Feminazi Cantwell and right wing wacko Sam Brownback from Kansas.

Sohkay

Yes, Cantwell and her lesbian fellow senator Patty Murray. Add Governor Christine Greguiore and then when Hillary comes to town all four of them have a gay old time.

Yes...Seattle has not one attractive woman. All single moms and 7s at best. It is because NW women think that for them to achieve that they have to be man like in all ways. I do not think the cosmetic companies make much money of these plain Janes. I seldom see a head turner has I go about my daily rounds. Your observation was correct. To find a babe one has to go to Idaho. Then do have some nice looking women there.

Peewee

[Jumper]

it reminds me of an old joke peewee-

"what do you call an attractive woman in Seattle?

- a tourist"

Never actually been there,, and the only chick i know from there is 25,blonde and beautiful..but she told me the joke.

[PeeWee]

it reminds me of an old joke peewee-

"what do you call an attractive woman in Seattle?

- a tourist"

Never actually been there,, and the only chick i know from there is 25,blonde and beautiful..but she told me the joke.

No, sadly it is true, my brother. If ever I see a babe in Seattle I think the same. Where did she come from. I have been all over the world. I see good looking women everywhere...but in the Pacific NW. When I was a young lad I made a fair income at modeling. Often the female models came from California...not local talent...as there was not much of it. There are, on the other hand, a lot of good looking men in the NW. Not to be gay about it but the guys up here are pretty dang rugged and it shows in their looks and in their demeaner. But what ever it is that makes these local lads rugged it has the same effect on the ladies too. You never want to see a rugged looking woman...trust me.

Peewee

[Mamma D]

Well my question is... are you faithful to her? Are you really serious about this relationship?
You see there is scamming that cuts both ways....Lots of talk and promises and no action.

Is this a committed relationship or just a preliminary one....A getting to know you situation?

My son made a committed relationship months before the visa was issued and he brought my Russian born daughter and grandson home at last. He supported them and in all ways, other than legal, they were a family (a separated one). Six years later .... nothing has changed.... except they are now Russian- Americans.

So you see much lies on the commitment and understanding on both sides....Talk about your expectations and what you want and HEAR what she wants and expects of you.... Be HONEST...no half truth here. Remember she is leaving all that she has known and loved to come to you....

If she returned home, she will have lost nearly everything she ever owned and usually her job as well.   She will probably end up living with her family and starting all over.....This is especially hard if she has a child/children.

So please be honest with her and yourself....

Mamma D

[Stirlitz]

she might be out partying, getting drunk and/or banging Igor.

Hm…

[BillyB]

Igor,

Checking out your customer's merchandise to make sure it's satisfactory for their arrival? Your wife will kill you!

[Manny]

My two penneth...........

If you are at the stage of only writing to her, then you are just her pen friend, as such you cant dictate her social life nor she yours. After you dragged your arse on a plane and visited her, before you left, you should have made some plans or at least had a discussion about where the relationship is going to go. At this point it would be fair to deduce that your pen friend turned into your girlfriend. Around this point (hopefully before) you would have established regular, maybe daily telephone conversations, so in those conversations you would pick up her plans for the evening/weekend etc and you would be able to make your judgements based on that.

If she is a regular girl she might say "oh, I am going to a party later with x girlfriend" - only you could decide if you found that troubling based on your perception of the individual girl. Of course sometimes she wont be home if you call but normal conversation would suggest that she might say "oh, I went to such a place this evening". Trust, like respect, builds up over time and is earned.

From the UK, central Russia is 4 hours ahead, so when my lady is in Russia I usually call her late afternoon anyway which is mid evening there, so I know where she is. Likewise she has been known, only occasionally, if I say I am staying at home Saturday night, to call me at home maybe at 9pm (1am there) 'just to say hello' (read checking up on me). When you are thousands of miles apart maybe you sometimes need a bit of confirmation.

If you trust her and her intentions with you then the prospect of bouncing on the back seat of Sergei's Volga should not be a concern to you. You are the one she chose!

[wiz]

My two penneth...........

If she is a regular girl she might say "oh, I am going to a party later with x girlfriend" - only you could decide if you found that troubling based on your perception of the individual girl. Of course sometimes she wont be home if you call but normal conversation would suggest that she might say "oh, I went to such a place this evening". Trust, like respect, builds up over time and is earned.


If you trust her and her intentions with you then the prospect of bouncing on the back seat of Sergei's Volga should not be a concern to you. You are the one she chose!

Manchester

You just made this important point and I agree: "Trust, like respect, builds up over time and is earned. "

If she is bouncing on the back seat of Sergei's Volga should not be a concern to you because you will never know, especially at the beginning of your relationship. Sure enough she will not know either if you are shagging Tracy or Susan.......no matter what time she calls you. You have to be realistic with your expectations, because cousin Irina that she went out could be her lover Boris.

What is important is how she and you will behave after your relationship has progressed and you have reached the stage of sharing your time and life together. That does not happen overnight and not after 2-3 meetings for a short time.

That was my 2p

Rgds
Wiz

[PeeWee]

Manchester

You just made this important point and I agree: "Trust, like respect, builds up over time and is earned. "

If she is bouncing on the back seat of Sergei's Volga should not be a concern to you because you will never know, especially at the beginning of your relationship. Sure enough she will not know either if you are shagging Tracy or Susan.......no matter what time she calls you. You have to be realistic with your expectations, because cousin Irina that she went out could be her lover Boris.

What is important is how she and you will behave after your relationship has progressed and you have reached the stage of sharing your time and life together. That does not happen overnight and not after 2-3 meetings for a short time.

That was my 2p

Rgds
Wiz

LOL!!! Yes, Lena told me on Wednesday that she would not be home for a few days because her cousin Irina was to visit from Moscow. Now it see it. It is a code. Irina is indeed Boris.

I am an "out of sight, out of mind" sort. I don't think about what she might be or might not be doing other than when I am talking to her on the phone. My mindset has little to do with trust but more to do with not allowing myself to dell on that with I do not know to be fact.

Peewee

[Manny]

LOL!!! Yes, Lena told me on Wednesday that she would not be home for a few days because her cousin Irina was to visit from Moscow. Now it see it. It is a code. Irina is indeed Boris.

Hmmm, and this involves leaving home for a few days when a relative visits? And her mobile (that is now free to receive International calls) mysteriously does not work either?

And they went where? And why?

I think Fat Yuri got lucky with his metallic mud coloured Volga and you sh*t out!

 

[wiz]

Hmmm, and this involves leaving home for a few days when a relative visits? And her mobile (that is now free to receive International calls) mysteriously does not work either?

And they went where? And why?

I think Fat Yuri got lucky with his metallic mud coloured Volga and you sh*t out!

 

MAN

We have a say in Greece:

Put a woman inside a bottle but if she wants to f.... she will find the way!

What I find laughable on this thread is that everybody talks about the woman.......if she is faithful or not!

What about us men?

Sure enough all of us will go rogering a nice sexy woman, if the opportunity arise, while we have a relationship with an RW and feel or not guilty later. I will not believe any protests against that!

In plain language. WHAT is good for Goose is good for the Gander!

Make up your mind that you only have to worry about her being unfaithful..... after you are married and live together!

[Bruno]

Sure enough all of us will go rogering a nice sexy woman, if the opportunity arise, while we have a relationship with an RW and feel or not guilty later. I will not believe any protests against that!

So, don't believe me 

Some people have personal honor... when i was dating my first wife, a few time, i have know opportunity with other women... I have simply send these women to my best friend who was alone. The same after our separation, i have wait until the divorce was finish before hunt again.

[prince_alfie]

Be a good example to her, and she will follow in your footsteps. If you cheat on her, she will probably reciporate in kind.

[Mamma D]

Is TRUST.... the foundation of the relationship?

Remeber that TRUST,  once broken never mends completly. There will always be a part of your mate, that will be with held. Cheating is almost always cheating yourself, of the pure whole trust that was in the begining. There will be a sweetness that can not ever be regained.  So you cheat yourself, not the other way around.

Can she trust you?     I found that the ones that fussed the most .... were the ones messing around.... both ways!   Or at least thinking about it.

Forgivness is nice,  but memory is always there  .....and hard to overcome.

In todays world, you enjoy a looser code of conduct.....but it is one that often comes back to bite!

So think long and hard before you risk damageing a good thing.

[Bruno]

Is TRUST.... the foundation of the relationship?
...

 

[groovlstk]

Be a good example to her, and she will follow in your footsteps. If you cheat on her, she will probably reciporate in kind.

Man, if you think that you can guarantee your girl's fidelity by setting a good example, you need to start pursuing girls from Jerry Falwell University, not the FSU.

[PeeWee]

Man, if you think that you can guarantee your girl's fidelity by setting a good example, you need to start pursuing girls from Jerry Falwell University, not the FSU.

Are you suggesting that the women at Florida State Univ. are easier than those who attend JFU? It is usually the religious ones who seem to be the party girls.

Peewee

[Manny]

Sure enough all of us will go rogering a nice sexy woman, if the opportunity arise, while we have a relationship with an RW and feel or not guilty later. I will not believe any protests against that!

I was dating several girls at home around the time I met my lady, then we got more serious and decided to marry and now I am not in the least bit interested in other women (which is a first for me) - in fact I have turned them down in my efforts to remain the good fiance! 

When I have been tempted I just remind myself why I became disillusioned with local women and why I was impressed with my ladys personality (not to mention her other assets and I dont mean her flat) - That usually does the trick!

[wiz]

I was dating several girls at home around the time I met my lady, then we got more serious and decided to marry and now I am not in the least bit interested in other women (which is a first for me) - in fact I have turned them down in my efforts to remain the good fiance! 

When I have been tempted I just remind myself why I became disillusioned with local women and why I was impressed with my ladys personality (not to mention her other assets and I dont mean her flat) - That usually does the trick!

Well you have been with your fiance for sometime now.......where me I am in the first stage at the moment.

Do you think I am unfaithful to the first one I met only one time, if I have sex with the others that I meet?

[Manny]

That would depend on the individual relationship and how far it had progressed.

If you met her but made no firm plans to return nor plans for the future (daily contact?) then sex or not I would suggest you were still a free agent!

On our second meeting my lady asked me if we were "now officially a couple" - I said yes and after that I phased out the others over a few months.

By the time I went to Russia (3rd meet) we were exclusive and in daily contact and have been ever since!

It is a situation you play it as you see it. The last woman I had in the sack apart from my lady left me unimpressed and a little cold. I thought "what am I doing here?" "Who am I fooling?" and "What am I trying to prove to myself?" - After that I was in no doubt that she was the one and from that point on I have paid other women no more than cursory attention.

Getting them in the sack in your own country or Russia or anywhere should prove no great hardship unless you are a SRM, when you reach the moment where another body or another experience is totally meaningless and you really want to be thousands of miles away with your FSU lady then you know you made a mistake and where you should really be.

Everybody reaches that point at a different stage in the process. If the man is a SRM who is thankful of ANY woman who will climb into bed with him it is different. If he looked in the FSU beacuse local women rejected him it is different. If you have choices in life, and in women, and you chose an FSU lady then you go through a different process.

I make no statements about you Wiz here by the way - I am also writing to the readership!

[wiz]

That would depend on the individual relationship and how far it had progressed.

If you met her but made no firm plans to return nor plans for the future (daily contact?) then sex or not I would suggest you were still a free agent!

On our second meeting my lady asked me if we were "now officially a couple" - I said yes and after that I phased out the others over a few months.

By the time I went to Russia (3rd meet) we were exclusive and in daily contact and have been ever since!

Looks that I am following your path. At the moment have no firm commitments with any woman and still meet and checking all women I have had correspondence for some time.

To be honest I think if and when I visit the woman in her country then it will be the time for the exclusivity decision. Of course after that I will do the same and phase the others out slowly!

Yes I know the feeling when you wake up next to one who has not impress you and you want to be miles away......
 

[beattledog]

This morning, my lady, asked me if any woman at the hotel that I have been staying for a short period of time.  She told me that she was jealous, but would have not been surprised if some woman had tried to do this to me. I told her that I was not interested in any other woman, but if she desired I would allow them to seduce me.   She said  no to this

beattledog

[George_123]

I know the fact that all of us men in here will have to wait a while before we marry a FSU girl. Long distance relationship is very hard on us(Man and woman). Especially, when we don't see each other daily. Talking on the phone is not enough but to build a relationship we do need to have the real thing and more. 

During this long hard wait, i sometime wonder what really happen to our lover? As you can imagine, the day or night when you tried call her, no one answer the phone or pickup. I am sure you asked yourself many times that question  "Is she faithful or not?"

[Turboguy]

In reality George, If you have to ask yourself is she faithful when she does not answer the phone when you call her in the FSU, are you not going to have to have the same worries when she is here and you have to go to work or she goes out to the store or you have a business trip. 

If you can't trust her then, how are you ever going to trust her?   I don't ever think about it.  Until someone gives me a reason to not trust them I would rather not drive myself crazy wondering.