Does it matter if a EE woman has a college degree??

[redfeather]

I have some women message me with and without a college degree, and I am wondering if it really matters if they have a degree.  I know someone wrote that getting a degree in Russia/Ukraine just meant a lot of cheating.  Also, some use Viber to chat, and I only have Skype?  Do I need to use both?  Thanks.

[ML]

College degree is very common in Ukraine and Russia.
The vast majority of the college degrees were earned without organized cheating by the individual students.
True, they have more of a relaxed attitude toward cheating in Ukraine and Russia, but mostly the students are doing studying and learning the honest way.
Given that the vast majority of the women you may be seeking have college degrees, it makes little sense to accept someone without a degree.
True, a degree doesn't mean it is 100% certain they are smarter than another without a degree . . . but I would estimate it is true some 80% + of the time.

[BillyB]

I have some women message me with and without a college degree, and I am wondering if it really matters if they have a degree. 

What matters is what you want. How important is it to you for a potential wife to have an education that will probably be useless in Western countries? Most FSU women with degrees will not be able to get a job related to that degree in a Western country. They would have to get re-educated or take a job that doesn't require a degree.

Also, some use Viber to chat, and I only have Skype?  Do I need to use both?  Thanks.

Tell the ladies you prefer Skype and if they don't want to use Skype and you really want to know them, then learn how to use Viber. More and more people are going to Viber. I've never used Viber or Skype. I tell the ladies I prefer to call them on the phone.

[GuppyCaptain]

Viber is SO easy! What's the big deal? Just download it onto your phone for crying out loud. The same can be said for WhatsApp. Seriously, don't go missing out on ladies because of something so simple as this. They're both really easy to use.

As for the degree, well since you asked I think you're overreacting and placing too much importance on it, but again it's your search and your lady so who are we to say?

[redfeather]

I actually do not care if the woman has a degree.  I do not need a woman to pursue a career because I am ok financially.  I will look into Viber and Whattsap , but I still use a blackberry phone because it fits my lifestyle better with less distractions.  Thanks for the feedback.

[Slumba]

I would be cautious , as some sites have the profile for the girl being written as "High School" (in USA this means to 12th grade) while they actually mean "higher education (3 or 5 year degree)".  Might be something to watch out for depending on the site you are using.

[dragonkid]

just focus on their looks and personality, you are going to feed them, not the other way round. Some of the girls i dated were worried about what work would they do, as most don't want to stay at home apparently, so getting someone relatively fit would be a plus. They can teach yoga, and fitness.

[GatoMoon]

I actually do not care if the woman has a degree.  I do not need a woman to pursue a career because I am ok financially.

It is NOT always the case that you are financially ok.  Some women like to feel useful for themselves.  Some women do not like doing nothing by sitting at home.  Some women like to feel the independent for themselves.   Not always because you are financially ok

[ML]

Being able to find a job with a particular college degree is only part of the importance of a college education.

There are many things to be learned in college aside from vocational skills to perform any particular job.

The ideal education for the first degree is a broad one covering the arts, humanities, sciences, etc.

If you like interesting discussions with a woman (man), there is no comparison between a person with a high school education and one with a broad based university education.

But, of course, if you yourself are rather limited in education, you would feel more comfortable with someone of a similar level.

[redfeather]

Okay Team,
I am following you on this topic.  I am a retired Army Colonel with a MBA masters degree.  I am just starting to Skype with a few women.  I am also open to a woman that has one child.  I am 55 years old and fit and in shape I am a master fitness trainer with the Army and this is my secondary skill set, or an additional duty job.  One of the women is 34 years old with a 10 year old son, and while this is younger than I wanted I am keeping an open mind about it because I do not want to limit myself.  I initially thought I would be better looking for a woman between 40-50 years old, so any thoughts on this are appreciated.  I can understand the college degree because it makes it easier to have an intellectual connection and to hold good conversations.  Thanks in advance for the feedback.

[dragonkid]

Okay Team,
I am following you on this topic.  I am a retired Army Colonel with a MBA masters degree.  I am just starting to Skype with a few women.  I am also open to a woman that has one child.  I am 55 years old and fit and in shape I am a master fitness trainer with the Army and this is my secondary skill set, or an additional duty job.  One of the women is 34 years old with a 10 year old son, and while this is younger than I wanted I am keeping an open mind about it because I do not want to limit myself.  I initially thought I would be better looking for a woman between 40-50 years old, so any thoughts on this are appreciated.  I can understand the college degree because it makes it easier to have an intellectual connection and to hold good conversations.  Thanks in advance for the feedback.

Attach pics of yourself. If you are in decent shape no reason why you can't get prime girls. I seen fat guys that get young girls easy, no excuse why you can't.

[redfeather]

DK,
I am 5'10" and weigh 187 pounds and I was just on the scale a few days ago.  I work out almost daily at home and I stay fit.  I have an active outdoors lifestyle of hiking, mountain biking, kayaking, fishing, and just a lot of outdoor stuff that helps keep me in shape.  I will stay open to maybe someone in her 30's, too.

[ML]

Redfeather, do you like sex?  I don't mean just in the standard sense . . . but really crave it?

If yes, concentrate on gals 35-45.  Those are the prime sexual drive years for gals.  Don't go much above 50 or you will be mostly in 'do it yourself' mode within a few years . . . on average of course.  There are always exceptions, if you are willing to take the chance on zero.

Your staying in shape is a must when you go for the younger gals.  My spouse and I have a virtually every day regimen alternating around walking, weight lifting and Pilates . . . and a lot of outdoor gardening, firewood cutting, hauling, stacking, etc.

Especially with the weight lifting . . . I frequently find myself saying (to myself), I don't want to do this today.  But then I look at my slender, sexual, energetic, younger gal and say (to myself) . . . get your a$$ going if you want to continue the good life with her.  A very strong incentive.

[redfeather]

ML,
Yep, I have a high sex drive and would want a woman that has the same.  Three times a week would be a bare minimum for me.  I will focus on the 35-45 age range.  That was one of my complaints about my ex-wife that divorced me was that she never wanted sex...or should I say once a month was enough for her.  Another reason why I am switching from American women to EE women is that almost all the women I have dated in the last five years around Austin, Texas that are over the age of 40 years old all have 2,3,4 divorces under their belt...and I am extremely cautious about getting too deeply involved with these AW because they will divorce a guy for very minor reasons and they have little respect for marriage.  So, I want to look in the EE based on my research.

[ML]

Yes, there is a HUGE difference in sex drive of different women (and different men).  It is really sad when mismatches occur.

But unfortunately, it takes a lot of experimenting to find out the true sex drive of a woman (or man).  Women can perform frequently, and often do it for a certain time period, just to keep the man happy.  However, that will fade out over time and is entirely different from a woman who really is into sex.

I think you are wrong in assuming that EE women will be any different than American women in most characteristics.  Despite the crap you will read here and on matchmaking websites . . . EE woman are NOT more loyal, more loving, better cooks, more family oriented, smarter, more educated, than American woman.

There is only one feature that (in general) EE women are superior to AW . . . and that is the feature of more slender.

The only reason for going after EE women is that you can find more of the slender variety there; and you can 'trade-up' on several variables including the younger attribute.

I am not being contradictive; for every EE woman who has the attributes you desire . . . she has an exact counterpart right here in USA.  The difference is that you can attain this woman in EE whereas you cannot attain her in USA.  And don't kid yourself . . . economics is the reason.

[BillyB]

One of the women is 34 years old with a 10 year old son, and while this is younger than I wanted I am keeping an open mind about it because I do not want to limit myself.  I initially thought I would be better looking for a woman between 40-50 years old, so any thoughts on this are appreciated.

People in the FSU don't age well. People anywhere living hard lives don't age well. Don't feel strange if you find yourself attracted to younger ladies. Men chase women but women choose the man. If the 34 yo is genuinely interested in you, why ask "why?" See where it goes.

I am 5'10" and weigh 187 pounds and I was just on the scale a few days ago.  I work out almost daily at home and I stay fit.  I have an active outdoors lifestyle of hiking, mountain biking, kayaking, fishing, and just a lot of outdoor stuff that helps keep me in shape.

At 55 yo, you're in good shape but women who consider a 55 yo man are more interested in his best sex organ which is the brain. Considering you're educated, a retired Colonel and in good shape, you should have a big selection of ladies that would be interested in you. You can be choosy.

Another reason why I am switching from American women to EE women is that almost all the women I have dated in the last five years around Austin, Texas that are over the age of 40 years old all have 2,3,4 divorces under their belt

There are many good women in America but they tend to be married and stay that way. There are many good women in the FSU and many will stay single until they find a good man who is financially secure which doesn't come along often. This is where you come in and benefit.


I remember looking at single American ladies on Craigslist. Many overweight, into tattoos and piercings, drug friendly, and have poor hygiene. FSU women are better dressed and it's not important to them if the man has tattoos all over their body or into drugs.

Yep, I have a high sex drive and would want a woman that has the same.  Three times a week would be a bare minimum for me. 

You may meet a lady and there could be wonderful sex in the beginning but you still need to discuss this with a woman before marriage. FSU women tend to be direct with communicating what they want to say. You can be direct too and discuss your needs. Sex, like water, food, and air are needs of a man. Many women in the FSU understand this and if you are good taking care of your lady's needs, she may be good at taking care of yours.

[dragonkid]

I think you are wrong in assuming that EE women will be any different than American women in most characteristics.  Despite the crap you will read here and on matchmaking websites . . . EE woman are NOT more loyal, more loving, better cooks, more family oriented, smarter, more educated, than American woman.

This, people need to wake up. Do not go into the candy shop and expect to not get burnt if you are careless. I know many EE women who are cheating on their partners, even the ones they have back in western countries. Try and find a genuine woman who is interested in you, and not what you have materialistically.

[redfeather]

ML and Billy,
So if EE women cheat as much as AW, and if they divorce as frivolous as AW...then what is the draw to want to be in a relationship with them?  I get the slender part because I do not like over weight women and America is full of them.   The things that I have read have told me that EE women were more traditional and family oriented.  So, there has to be some draw to want to be in a relationship with them?

[2tallbill]

DK,
I am 5'10" and weigh 187 pounds and I was just on the scale a few days ago.  I work out almost daily at home and I stay fit.  I have an active outdoors lifestyle of hiking, mountain biking, kayaking, fishing, and just a lot of outdoor stuff that helps keep me in shape.  I will stay open to maybe someone in her 30's, too.

A 21 year age difference is pushing the envelope in my opinion. Whether you push
the envelope or not you will want to make frequent visits and spend considerable
time together before becoming engaged. You need to win her heart. You don't want
her to make a pragmatic decision in a short time. You want to see her eyes radiating
her love back to you.

During my many trips to the FSU I've been in airports seeing men blissfully happy
and in love sitting next to a beautiful girl who was totally bored. I always told myself
I whatever happened I didn't want to be that guy.

ML has a good point on the sexual frequency compatibility. You might not want to
comment on it publicly, but you should keep it in mind. Once you get to know an
FSUW fairly well, most of them won't have reservations speaking candidly about
sexual topics. It's NOT a good break the ice/starter conversation topic.

I think that a Girl with a college degree would generally be a better match for you.
Ask them what they studied in college rather than rely on their profile information.
The profile information should be taken with a grain of salt. Somebody else might
have applied for them.

They may have different questionnaires at different places or times or different understandings on what they mean (like in Slumba's example) I've had an FSUW
try to convince me that rating herself as proficient at English was better than fluent.
It's kind of funny when they argue about a point with a (somewhat) educated native
English speaker, but they will.

Udachi!

Bill

[2tallbill]

ML and Billy,
So if EE women cheat as much as AW, and if they divorce as frivolous as AW...then what is the draw to want to be in a relationship with them?  I get the slender part because I do not like over weight women and America is full of them.   The things that I have read have told me that EE women were more traditional and family oriented.  So, there has to be some draw to want to be in a relationship with them?

When an FSUW gets beyond a certain age maybe 36+ years old. FSU men look at her
like milk past the due date. Sure they will happily bed them and lay on their couch
getting waited on hand and foot but they will eventually leave and lay on a different
FSUW's couch. They will definitely NOT marry them.

The FSU has a surplus of women past the age of 36+ years old who have very low
prospects of getting married and having a happy family life.

You can find an FSUW just as cRaZy, or materialistic or shallow or anything
else as a Western girl or you can also find a good girl, who is thin, pretty, family
oriented, loving, sensible, interesting, exciting, educated, funny, charming, etc.

You need to look at this as a numbers game. You have to sift through a number of girls
to find a good one. The problem most guys have is that they don't reject Miss Sexy-Popka
when they discover a flaw in her character.
 
They let the hot girls walk all over them, they make excuses for her, they lie to
themselves, etc when they need to ruthlessly (but politely) reject them. The quicker
you sift through the girls who aren't your potential wife the sooner you will find your
potential wife.

Udachi!


Bill

[BillyB]

ML and Billy,
So if EE women cheat as much as AW, and if they divorce as frivolous as AW...then what is the draw to want to be in a relationship with them?  I get the slender part because I do not like over weight women and America is full of them.   

If you look at statistics and take away the FSU nations who are predominantly Muslim, you will find the divorce rate in FSU nations are the same or more than in America. The reasons for divorce can be very different. You felt American women, where you live, would divorce men over something minor. That could be true and it's easy for American women to divorce since they can take a sizeable chunk of assets with them every time they do so. There's little risk for American women when breaking up the family. FSU women may try to stick by their husband who may be screwing up major but they can only endure so much and will divorce. It's not easy for FSU women to remarry, especially if she has a kid. FSU men are less likely or able to afford a woman with baggage. Good women in America can remarry easy. It's not so easy for FSU women to remarry.


The bottom line is you have to judge each woman you meet as an individual whether she's here or over there. There are many high quality women in the FSU and there are some who will use you for money and a green card. Many men here are happy they married an FSU women but there is the occasional horror story told of being used. Continue to use your big head when you meet ladies over there. When on a date, figure out if the lady is "into you" based on her level of excitement and body language when you're together. Does she have good manners? She may treat you well but she may be rude to people she considers beneath her such as waitresses. If she has a child, does she neglect the child when you're around? Is she humble? Does she have a temper? Lots of things to consider before you pull the trigger on marriage. If something isn't right, don't marry and continue to find the right woman. Some men have gone to the FSU and found their wife on a first visit. Some have been to the FSU and still haven't found their wife after a half dozen trips. Even if a guy doesn't find a wife on a first trip, this endeavor can still be fun and adventurous. Even if my marriage doesn't last, I would do this again.

The things that I have read have told me that EE women were more traditional and family oriented. 

That also can depend on the individual. I have found many FSU people have strong bonds with their family and I credit that due to them living in more difficult conditions and survival is better together as a family than alone. I've been around family members of FSU women I married and dated. Some of the male family members have no problems putting their arms around me while we talk. Sometimes the talk will lead to the bedroom and it's not abnormal to see two men laying in bed talking. I go to parks here in America and I see a high percentage of FSU couples and families spending time together than I do American families.

[ML]

ML and Billy,
So if EE women cheat as much as AW, and if they divorce as frivolous as AW...then what is the draw to want to be in a relationship with them?  I get the slender part because I do not like over weight women and America is full of them.   The things that I have read have told me that EE women were more traditional and family oriented.  So, there has to be some draw to want to be in a relationship with them?

I already spoke to why you want to pursue EE women compared to AW.

Two features:  1) Slender and 2) you can trade-up to achieve a  woman that you could not achieve in USA (younger, prettier, more educated, etc.)

Again, women with these same characteristics are here in USA, but they are not achievable by you (and the rest of us); but you can attract them in EE because of the economics.

[GatoMoon]

Attach pics of yourself. If you are in decent shape no reason why you can't get prime girls. I seen fat guys that get young girls easy, no excuse why you can't.

I am a 'thin' man but still cannot find the right girl for me !! 

[Shadow]

Whatever you look for can be found. The important thing is that a woman fits wih your personality and is willing to accept your worst habits.
For some guys I would advise no college degree, as having the woman smarter as the man might not end well.

[alex330]

Does it matter if she has a college degree?

As it related to her ability to work once here not very much. Most will need to start over or take additional classes in order to work in their field. And most will go into a different occupation once here.

Is it relevant in regards to the type of person she is? I think so. Most I have spoken to have completed college and those that have not usually have an issue of some sort. It is not like here in the US where the women can go directly into a high paying sales job or become an entrepreneur like here in the West. That is changing though, and every individual of course has their own set of circumstances.