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[Faux Pas]

On a first date, I almost always picked the place. While I have dated a few prodaters
none of them tried to pull me into a restaurant. I think that they could see that I didn't
have stars in my eyes and that it wouldn't work. It takes a certain gullible or low self
worth type of guy to get pulled into such obvious traps. I don't think that I give off
that vibe.

I guess I don't give that vibe off either Bill. I've dated a few but not many FSU women but, I have dated a helluva lot of women. The only pro daters I've dated were American. Even then I never get hung up over the cost of the meal. If I don't like the arrangement I simply say no and leave. 

I mentioned the spineless guys that can't say no to a pretty face because they never get the opportunity to. There has been hundreds of them grace the halls of RWD. My point that Billy tried so hard is piss on is, if you can't say no and the price of a meal is going to ruin your good time, you have issues far deeper than lack of money for a good meal to consider. Stay home or grow a pair 

[Maxx2]

I don't recall ever paying more than $100 for a meal in the FSU. That one exception was my choice, damn well worth it and included fine Beluga caviar. Most meals even 2-4 people rarely exceed $35-40 IME

Don't forget the $50 agency introduction fee, $20 per hour translator and taxi fare for the lady and interpreter.  It could easily add an extra $100 to the date.

[ML]

I know,,, I might differ somewhat from most men here....
But during my almost two years of dating, (from spring -13 to the end of 2015) all over Ukraine,,,,
McDonalds was my number one place for meeting, eating, coffee, with the more than 30 women I dated.

For me, in my opinion,,,, if the place to eat is important for a woman, she isn't for me anyways.
But I can't remember this being important at all, as I had good or very good chemistry, with almost all women I met with.
And they wanted to meet again, McDonalds or not....

The beauty I went on a vacation with to Cyprus in february 2014,,, here: http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=15509.575
did however, make a somewhat negative comment about McDonalds when we were going home 

During the 8 months I dated / lived together with Tanya (now my wife), I can't remember eating out at any place "ranking above" McDonalds.

I am somewhat in North's corner.  I actually never took a FSUW to McDonalds on a first date . . . however, on later occasions I did take them to McDonalds, particularly for breakfast as there is no better American breakfast to be found anywhere in FSU.  Or, on several occasions, I gave money to the gal the night before, and she stopped at McDonalds to pickup the breakfast and bring to my apartment the next morning.

Now, with Ochka here in USA, she has repeatedly said that some of her fondest moments are us walking the trails in mornings and then breakfast at McDonalds, Burger King or Hardees.  Those three are constantly putting out 2 for 1 coupons. 

This is very helpful, especially near the end the month when our Food Stamps run short.

[jone]

It is only a rumor, but I heard that UA McDonalds are now accepting EBT cards.

[alex330]

I am in the same boat and FP and 2tall. I must not reek of money...

My first date over was setup by the agency and much like what Maxx described. Nicer Italian place for dinner in Odessa selected by the terp. Dinner for 3 around $100 with wine. My date had a salad. Terp was $15 per hour I think. Date asked for cab fare and lived outside the city so it was a bit inflated...

Terp tried to setup a second date so she could make more in translation fees and the girl tried to get me to take her shopping for a dress for her "friends wedding" the next day. I told them both to not bother calling me. That easy.

Did it suck that I was "scammed"? Sure, but I knew better than to take her shopping for boots. Cut your losses and move on. You can read the situation as can they. If you let them push a little they will take what they can.

I think a lot of guys let them get away with more than they should and then bitch about it later.

[BillyB]

That makes no sense Billy. Quit being a moron. If your massive ego doesn't allow to seize the moment, have a nice meal with a stranger who may or may not be using you then, say no and take your paranoid ass down to the pizza joint and have a slice by yourself. Pretty simple, eh?

If you're stupid enough to spend 5 star money on a 4 star restaurant so a girl can pocket a $tar, then make the confession. Some of those restaurants got regular menus and menus for suckers like you. Just because the girl is hot and wearing a mini skirt doesn't mean spending big bucks on her will get you in her pants but what is certain, she is getting into your wallet. Men go over there and date half a dozen women or more. Taking each to a $400 meal is stupid. You don't have to have a $400 meal to have a good time. You're either trying to give this forum the impression you live the high life, or full of shit, or just plain stupid when it comes to dating women.

Unless the girl is a millionaire or daughter of a high level politician or king accustomed to an extravagant lifestyle, don't do a Faux Pas and take a common woman to a 5 star restaurant on a first date and don't get suckered into going into one of those restaurants. A sincere woman would not take you into one of those restaurants on a first date, period. Most of the ladies you will encounter in the FSU aren't used to an extravagant lifestyle so it's best a guy not show off give her the impression that is the type of life he's going to provide. How hard is it to win a lady over based on who you are? Save your money for a great gal. Then take her to those 5 star restaurants for special moments that are meaningful.

[Faux Pas]

If you're stupid enough to spend 5 star money on a 4 star restaurant so a girl can pocket a $tar, then make the confession. Some of those restaurants got regular menus and menus for suckers like you. Just because the girl is hot and wearing a mini skirt doesn't mean spending big bucks on her will get you in her pants but what is certain, she is getting into your wallet. Men go over there and date half a dozen women or more. Taking each to a $400 meal is stupid. You don't have to have a $400 meal to have a good time. You're either trying to give this forum the impression you live the high life, or full of shit, or just plain stupid when it comes to dating women.

Unless the girl is a millionaire or daughter of a high level politician or king accustomed to an extravagant lifestyle, don't do a Faux Pas and take a common woman to a 5 star restaurant on a first date and don't get suckered into going into one of those restaurants. A sincere woman would not take you into one of those restaurants on a first date, period. Most of the ladies you will encounter in the FSU aren't used to an extravagant lifestyle so it's best a guy not show off give her the impression that is the type of life he's going to provide. How hard is it to win a lady over based on who you are? Save your money for a great gal. Then take her to those 5 star restaurants for special moments that are meaningful.

I see you chose to not quit being a moron. Help yourself I suppose it's easy enough for you 

[dragonkid]

she is getting into your wallet.

I can promise you if your wife had a green card she wouldn't give you the time of day. I made a sweeping statement just like you made a sweeping statement of others. Some people like to spend THEIR money how they like. If i was in their position, i would like to treat a girl to a $400 meal. I can bed a girl without doing it, but i rather do it, have fun, enjoy my life, instead of living in my head worrying if i am getting used for my money.

[BillyB]

I can promise you if your wife had a green card she wouldn't give you the time of day.

My wife owned a green card for years and she can leave and stay in America if she wanted to. No false domestic charges needed. What other promises can you make?

Even if my wife left me, what do you think is going to happen to me? You think I'm going to be lonely? I was dating multiple women at home before I was married, sometimes two in one day. If I decide to get married again, I will blow people's minds again when I make that announcement. It's not a fluke I found a quality woman that would commit her life to me. My wife is more beautiful than the wives of billionaires, movie stars, and other famous people. She's got many other good qualities too. I can find and secure women like her. I can be successful in this endeavor over and over and over. I can mold my future the way I want. You are uncertain of your future.

[msmobyone]

BillyB

How you term 'success' is certainly not my definition.

Pulling is  the easy part. 

Having a failed marriage is nothing to be proud of.

[fathertime]

1.  If somebody likes to spend big bucks on an expensive meal on a new lady that doesn't mean they are a sucker.


2.  If somebody prefers to let things play out before they spend big bucks on an expensive dinner that doesn't make them a cheapskate.


3. Personally, I don't usually enjoy the food at high class restaurants. So for that reason, I'd take a date out to less formal locations to eat.  I wouldn't mind blowing serious bucks on a first outing "date"  that I would also get some enjoyment out of, but it wouldn't be on a meal.




Fathertime!     

[BillyB]

BillyB

How you term 'success' is certainly not my definition.

Pulling is  the easy part. 

Having a failed marriage is nothing to be proud of.

Success for me isn't being married. Success for me is being happy. I'll even consider a person getting out of a bad marriage being on the path to success.

Everybody fails. No matter what personal and business failures a person has in in their past, what matters is where they're at today. Does the successes they had outweigh the failures? Failure at anything isn't something to be proud of but what matters is getting back up and improving.

1.  If somebody likes to spend big bucks on an expensive meal on a new lady that doesn't mean they are a sucker.

In the FSU, some of the time it does. Other times it may mean the man is naïve, wanting to buy love, wanting to get into a woman's pants, insecure, or desperate. And thus a fool and his money will part.

We read it all the time here. Man goes on date and the first place she takes him is to an expensive restaurant and for desert, she takes him shopping for $400 shoes or $700 fur coat. After the women date men like that, they have a good laugh with their friends. They may even be in competition to see who can outdo each other.

Why the rush to take a woman out to a 5 star restaurant on a first date? Get to know her, spend days or weeks with her, and after she earns your trust, then invite her to a fancy dinner on the last date before you go home. Build a friendship or relationship with the woman first before the fancy stuff. How hard is that?

[msmobyone]

Success for me isn't being married.

.the relevance to my questioning BillyB's revealing ego trip eluded me..

[fathertime]

.the relevance to my questioning BillyB's revealing ego trip eluded me..

Hello msmobyone,  I don't know if you noticed, but you just attributed a quote to me that I did not make in the above post.


Fathertime!   

[dragonkid]

My wife owned a green card for years and she can leave and stay in America if she wanted to. No false domestic charges needed. What other promises can you make?

Even if my wife left me, what do you think is going to happen to me? You think I'm going to be lonely? I was dating multiple women at home before I was married, sometimes two in one day. If I decide to get married again, I will blow people's minds again when I make that announcement. It's not a fluke I found a quality woman that would commit her life to me. My wife is more beautiful than the wives of billionaires, movie stars, and other famous people. She's got many other good qualities too. I can find and secure women like her. I can be successful in this endeavor over and over and over. I can mold my future the way I want. You are uncertain of your future.

Whatever, what i meant was, if your wife had a green card prior to marrying you, she wouldn't give you the time of day. Deny that all you want, but these fsu women are looking for a guy can provide them with a better future. Does that make your wife a gold digger? Yes if you want to make sweeping statements that if you take a girl out to a $400 meal, she is just using you for your wallet. Anyways your search for these "amazing" women, will only be in FSU, you cant handle western women. I hate when people say western women are horrible etc, if you are good enough as you claim to be, there are plenty of quality women about.



Connor quit his plumbing job, claimed benefits from the government whilst his gf supported him when times were tough when he was training to just get into the ufc.

My mother met my dad when he had nothing, physically he was nothing great, had lots of major life ops,debt,bad flat. My mother had a visa to stay in UK, my dad visa status wasn't great. My mother worked on a farm in Portugal all her life, came to the UK to work morning to night, kept the windows open so she could wake up the next day as she only had 6 hours to sleep. Yet she married my dad, only man she ever been with. If you are talking about looks, don't worry lol my mother is considered VERY beautiful. She is from a western country, there are great women here, yet you go to FSU where women clearly want a better life for themselves. If you want to talk big, do it at home and stfu. Stop trying to put your ego out there, you are not that amazing, and your wife really isn't either.

I had a pretty girl that wanted to drop her masters, come out and stay in the uk with me,whilst she worked as an au pair. i even told her there is no guarantee we would work out. we skyped for 2 months, i can get a lot of women that would give a lot to be with me just after a short meeting. Not what i am really after anymore, your wife loves you now,i knew she had a green card NOW already, you can guess by the amount of years you been together. but how you met will always be there. She wanted a better life, which some can say means she is a gold digger, and wanted your visa. My point is don't make sweeping statements on others, you and them are similar is some ways.

[BillyB]

Whatever, what i meant was, if your wife had a green card prior to marrying you, she wouldn't give you the time of day.

Your other promise isn't going well so you're going to change it. Whatever. My wife was living outside the FSU before I met her. She wasn't trapped there. She had a stack of phone numbers European guys gave her but she didn't give out her number. She had well educated men and millionaires asking her mother if they could marry her. Out of all the guys in real life and online that were trying to hook up with her, she gave me the time of day and then some. You can go on and on and claim the men who are married here wouldn't catch their wife if circumstances were different but they did catch their wife and the rest of the guys in the world, including the ones in equal or better economic situations, didn't.

these fsu women are looking for a guy can provide them with a better future.

You make that statement a lot here but you aren't smart. ALL rational people want a better life. You think that's a bad thing when it's actually a good thing. I'm not going to be happy with a woman who is content with living in the slums. If you are, speak up and quit raving about other people who settled for little. What you need to focus on is the method people use to achieve a better life, not that they want a better life. Is a woman going to be a team player in the success of marriage and life or doesn't she want a free ride?

Anyways your search for these "amazing" women, will only be in FSU, you cant handle western women. I hate when people say western women are horrible etc, if you are good enough as you claim to be, there are plenty of quality women about.

I never said Western women are horrible. I've dated more women, specifically dozens of FSU women living in America than overseas. My experiences are in the thread below. Do what I did. Start a thread about your dating experiences and journey in real time to find a wife and in the end blow people's minds with the results. Most people are afraid to do that since they may fall flat and get embarrassed. You got confidence in your abilities to so? If finding a quality woman is as easy as 2+2=4, then do so but based off what you say elsewhere, you're line of thinking about women and looking down on them are going to keep you single or get you into trouble with the wrong girl.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=11638.0

My mother met my dad when he had nothing, physically he was nothing great, had lots of major life ops,debt,bad flat. My mother had a visa to stay in UK, my dad visa status wasn't great. My mother worked on a farm in Portugal all her life, came to the UK to work morning to night, kept the windows open so she could wake up the next day as she only had 6 hours to sleep. Yet she married my dad, only man she ever been with. If you are talking about looks, don't worry lol my mother is considered VERY beautiful. She is from a western country, there are great women here, yet you go to FSU where women clearly want a better life for themselves.

Besides your feelings that FSU women are sluts, I see another reason why you look down on FSU women. You think women at home who marry men that hit rock bottom are sincere and those from the FSU who look for a better life are insincere.

Stop trying to put your ego out there,

You can't tell the difference between ego and confidence. Nobody gets successful in life with ego. I know the amount of testosterone I add to each post of mine intimidates you but I also knew you and treadmilldude couldn't ignore me. You guys are the kind of guys that don't do what you say but it's good you're still listening. 20 years from now you are going to look back and say those guys on RWD were right. You can take good advice and live life the easy way but you're choosing to learn life the hard way by learning after a fall.

you are not that amazing.

A tear runs down my check. When you learn to get people to value your words and how your brain thinks, what you say and do will be worth a whole lot more.

and your wife really isn't either.

One reason you are going to have a hard time being successful is because you fail to identify a quality woman. You say you want a woman who is a virgin that values marriage and family life and you just described my wife yet you think she's not amazing. BTW, her being a virgin wasn't important to me. I also didn't ask her to take a lie detector test and get checked out by a doctor to prove she isn't lying as you plan to do when you find a virgin. I talked to my wife nearly everyday and based on how she talks and then behaved with me when we're together, I could tell she's a person of integrity. After you spend months or years dating a woman, your plan is to not trust her by questioning her honesty pertaining to her virginity. I think you're going to lose a lot of quality women in your life, not just because you're being rude by asking her to meet with professionals for verification, but because you're not smart enough to figure people out on your own.

[dragonkid]

she had well educated men and millionaires asking her mother if they could marry her. Out of all the guys in real life and online that were trying to hook up with her, she gave me the time of day and then some.

stopped reading lol, you are very gullible. It is a common tactic used by most FSU women, to try and bring up their value. Amount of women who have told me this, and went from one ear out the other.

You are still on my ignore, just a glitch that sometimes i see your shit. About your testosterone, how many kids have you got again?

[BillyB]

stopped reading lol,

Truth can hurt sometimes. Read a little, stop and cry, then read some more later when you're feeling better.

It is a common tactic used by most FSU women, to try and bring up their value.

You've always been an expert on FSU women. My wife didn't tell me about the men chasing her before or during our first meeting so tell me again how she was trying to bring up her value to impress me?

About your testosterone, how many kids have you got again?

I've got at least one on this forum. The kid is a mistake.

[dragonkid]

You've always been an expert on FSU women. My wife didn't tell me about the men chasing her before or during our first meeting so tell me again how she was trying to bring up her value to impress me?

Did i mention first meeting?

I've got at least one on this forum. The kid is a mistake.

Getting salty there, did i hit a nerve? where is your testosterone you speak so highly of? Your estrogen levels must be peaking with your bodyfat %

[BillyB]

Did i mention first meeting?

You said it was a tactic. What good is a tactic to catch someone if you're already in a relationship. Speaking of tactics, when you mentioned you run a business and have a masters degree, which is a lie, in your profile, did it help you lure more women? Did it help you lure family oriented virgins? Don't point out the stick in someone's eye when you got a log in yours. You can tell everyone here you're serious about finding the right woman but your actions prove you're a player.

[dragonkid]

You said it was a tactic. What good is a tactic to catch someone if you're already in a relationship.

Relationship is the same as marriage? Relationship is just a start of the game. And you got caught nicely, these well educated, millionaires  maybe we are talking about some 70 year olds? Every girl gets 50-70 year old millionaires, nothing special. i saw my ex's russiancupid account, pages of unopened messages, she didn't collect other guys numbers. Real women actually have a small circle, sounds like your wife chatted to many men. 

 

[dragonkid]

Speaking of tactics, when you mentioned you run a business and have a masters degree, which is a lie, in your profile

Took it down, secondly i put pics on another thread and you went quiet after that. Very quiet, never brought it up again, now you are mad as hell, trying to throw out anything you can because you feel so mad. Don't worry it takes a few years to have kids, especially when you suffer from low test levels, the estrogen doesn't help. I didn't want to hurt you, but you kept talking about your test levels being so high, so i just had to ask why after so many years you have no kids 

anyways
-50 year old woman
-gets MANY millionaires who want to marry her (Without giving it up of course)
-has a stack of numbers
-is a virgin

Sounds  legit.

[BillyB]

Took it down,

After you got caught of course. You mad bro? The girls in the FSU should thank me from having to read your lies that hype yourself up. Telling people you're a somebody when you're closer to being a nobody is just as bad as the guys sending photos to the girls that make themselves look younger and better. Or did you do that too? Compulsive liar wants clean, family oriented, honest virgin, that's willing to prove herself in a lie detector test she's all that she says she is, for marriage. Good luck with that.

secondly i put pics on another thread and you went quiet after that.

Your mind is flawed enough. No need to point out flaws in your body. You need to fix your problems one at a time.

I know why you've announce numerous times you're ignoring me although others have been harsh in their criticisms too. Because you're worried I'd catch more BS. Stop opening your mouth here and I won't be able to catch anything that would contradict what you said elsewhere. You're dealing with a lot smarter men here than you're used to. You're not going to get much past us.

[2tallbill]

Took it down, secondly i put pics on another thread and you went quiet after that. Very quiet, never brought it up again, now you are mad as hell, trying to throw out anything you can because you feel so mad. Don't worry it takes a few years to have kids, especially when you suffer from low test levels, the estrogen doesn't help. I didn't want to hurt you, but you kept talking about your test levels being so high, so i just had to ask why after so many years you have no kids 

anyways
-50 year old woman
-gets MANY millionaires who want to marry her (Without giving it up of course)
-has a stack of numbers
-is a virgin

Sounds  legit.

Gentlemen,

I'm not a mod, but you seem to have unsolvable differences.
It's against the rules to bring wives or g/f into the debate and
both of you are smart enough to debate on the merits without
doing this.

Your arguments have little to do with the original topic, maybe
you can agree to disagree or go to a blah, blah thread and discuss
things there.

Udachi!

Bill 

[BillyB]

It's against the rules to bring wives or g/f into the debate

I think it's good DK shows who he is by what he says. Does it really matter if he attacks another woman when he has already attacked 99.99% of the women in the FSU claiming they're sluts, green card girls, and gold diggers looking to get out of the shithole they live in? Everybody's wives are in the same boat. He looks down on almost all FSU women yet he is still looking in the FSU hoping to find the .01% of women who are perfect while retaining their virginity that's still living there. I can imagine if he does find a woman that marries him, she will be subject to verbal or physical abuse if not abandonment if he even thinks she's lying or cheating on him.