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Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« on: June 26, 2006, 06:12:20 PM »
I recieved this Grass roots petition today....If any of you are interested
email me at   dmadbass@yahoo.com  and I will send the entire petition...
I resent the fact all of you have to jump hoops and they give these lawbreakers an almost free ride and even pay them in some instances!

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PETITION FOR: President Bush , Gov. Schwarzenegger and Congressman Dana
Rohrbacher
 
Gentlemen and Mr. President:  The petition below is a protest against what
the senate voted on recently which was to allow illegals to access our
social security!  We demand that you and all congressional representatives
require citizenship for anyone to be eligible for social services in the
United States. We further demand that there not be any amnesty given to
illegals, and NO free services or funding, or payments to and for illegal
immigrants.
 
We are fed up with the lack of action about this matter and are tired of
"paying" for services to illegals!  Tell Senor Fox to pay for his own people!
 

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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2006, 07:37:32 AM »
Mamma D,

 We are thoroughly disgusted with our government and the whole process that is going on with the immigration scene. We've been trying for a year and a half now to get our son Sergei who is 6 his Adjustment of Status. We have sent the application 3 times already and when we finally got an interview they told us that with the current application (with his mother as the sponsor) that it would take 7 years to complete his status. They also told us that the last one we submitted with me being the sponsor was correct and it should have been approved. They said that somebody messed up, thanked us for coming, and the best part was when they said "Better luck next time". We are now supposed to submit the application again with me as the sponsor. Personally I am ready to sell everything and get as far away from these people and this country as possible.

 Lord help us from 6 year old children who are following the rules but open the doors wide for the cheap labor that we will have to subsidize. What a place!

Ken
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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2006, 07:56:37 AM »
Ken,

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*snip* (with his mother as the sponsor) that it would take 7 years to complete his status.

This may or may not be pertinent to you, but the 7 years quoted to you by some ijit clerk is not quite right.  That is the projected average time for a person going for US citizenship through the usual methods where they must hold the LPR status for 5 years, (2 year conditional and 5 years permanent = 7).  The spouse of a US citizen (K-1 or K-3) need only to hold her permanent GC for 3 years to be eligible to file for naturalization, she can actually file at the 2 years and 9 months mark.

I refer you to the N-400 instructions which you may download @ http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/n-400.htm

Good luck.

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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2006, 08:28:19 AM »
jb,

 That was told to us by the interviewer and his supervisor. They showed us the chart that listed the time frame for a Permanent Resident (Elena) to be the sponsor for another Permanent Resident (Sergei).

 The biggest thing we are upset about is that we did it right and they still screwed us. And they will not accept any responsibility for this and we are expected to file again and pay again because of some idiot who is making decisions about our life who probabaly could not find his @ss with a map, a GPS, and a team of guides.

 I will check the information you mention and I do thank you for it. I'm just plain pissed about this.

Ken
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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2006, 08:41:55 AM »
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I'm just plain pissed about this.

You have every right to be hoppin' mad about this.  To use an old Texas phrase, I'd be lookin' to burn someone's barn over this.

If you saved all your original paperwork for the initial filing, and have their receipt for accepting the filing, you ought to go knocking on your congressman's door.  Civil servant bureaucrats do not like Congress finding out how poorly they serve.  It just might build a fire under someone's backside and get your case resolved.

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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2006, 09:21:29 AM »
We've already made initial contact with the congressmans office and are waiting for the initial response to follow up with our paperwork and our call to burn them at the stake. Don't think the second one will fly but the thought is nice at the moment.  ;D

As this is a holiday weekend for congress I don't expect to hear back until late next week at the earliest. If no response by then they will start getting a massive amount of phone calls and e-mails. This is one wheel that can get mighty squeaky!

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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2006, 11:22:14 AM »
Burn their heels....I well remember the months we waited while THE BIG AMNISTY PUSH  was on....

The illegals came first.... can you you believe it? Illegals, befor American citizens working to get LEGAL visas for our family to come here.......

And most are in fear that our families can be jepordized even now, that they are citizens.

Thank heavens that is past for us...and I send at least a dozen bags of patiience and Gods speed to all of you still wandering in the maze....

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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2006, 11:46:20 PM »
We've already made initial contact with the congressmans office and are waiting for the initial response to follow up with our paperwork and our call to burn them at the stake.

Ken

As a Federal employee I can tell you there's nothing like a congressional inquiry to shake up the paperpushers.  I've used it a couple of times and it was funny watching the administrative bozos having a certain amount of time to respond to a congressional inquiry and justify their actions.
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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2006, 05:11:57 AM »
acrzybear,

 Unfortunately I am also a Federal employee (Federal Reserve System) and seeing this place in action truly does not give me much hope as to getting anything done right (if at all) from this burocratic, nepotistic, favoristic, politically motivated place. (I love making up new words... ;D ). If I could have the money that this place pisses away in a week I could buy a nice little South Seas Island and live quite comfortably for the rest of my life!

 I will burn their butts on this!

Ken
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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2006, 05:23:07 AM »
...this burocratic, nepotistic, favoristic, politically motivated place.
WOW, Ken, well said!  Good old USA! 

Sounds like Russia :-)))
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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2006, 08:29:19 AM »
Yes Michelangelo it does. Except in Russian for a few hundred roubles and a box of chocolates we would have had this finished a year ago...  ::)

Ken
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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2006, 08:36:23 AM »
Mamma D, here is a website that you can use to fax your congress and Senators for free, plus it gives updated and very accurate information in all the Immigration BS going on, www.numbersusa.com they were very instrumental in getting all the bills stalled in the house and senate, with the help of a lot of American Citizens, these Idiot politicians look at a 500,000 illegals marching and think Oh My God look at all those people, we had better do something, but they always seem to forget about the 250 million AMERICAN CITIZENS, and a large majority are against any guest worker, amnesty program.


My apologies if I got a little off topic
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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2006, 01:50:12 PM »
Yes Michelangelo it does. Except in Russian for a few hundred roubles and a box of chocolates we would have had this finished a year ago...  ::)

Ken
Yes, Ken, you are right.  Ukraine is the same way :-)  In March we went by the Cindy Agency in Dnepr to ask them to take my girls profile off their list.  Vik suggested we give the girl who does that job a box of chocolates. We did, and the next week the profile was gone  :)

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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2006, 05:11:23 AM »
Why in the heck if a Government Agency makes a grave error do they make the innocent person refile and pay all that money again? Ken, I know a very good attorney if you wish to go that route. I had to take a break from not posting to let you know how awful this situation is. WE (US government) make the error and YOU have to pay for it. This is just wrong. I don't like to mention where I work because the level of ineptitude is even worse than USCIS.

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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2006, 05:41:36 AM »
SoC,

 Thanks much. I'm starting with the congressman for now. I'll get in touch with you if I decide to go the lawyer route. Before I started dealing with USCIS I used to think that the Federal Reserve was the most patheticly run company/organization in the world. Now I realize that is just a second place wanna be (probably running neck and neck with SSA).

 Hi to the family from us and hope all are doing well!

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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2006, 07:04:16 PM »
Don't get me started, because it'll be hard for me to stop whining.  I posted about it before.  As a person with hispanic roots (Panama) I feel embarrased to even be remotely related to the same ethnic group when I see these illegals.  They make the rest of us (latinos) who are doing well for ourselves, legal citizens by birth or came in the right way, look bad. I have to jump through hoops to bring My Odessa Mrs here the right way.  Not only that the US embassy is now suspiscious of so called "Mail Order Brides", which is a term I resent.  She wasnt chosen out of a directory like a car.  I've made sure to have enough proof (letters, reciepts, travel, travel itineraries, copies of my visa entries, photos of us, etc) to show there's a real relationship.  On top of that I have to privide an affidavit of support to show she won't be in need of government funds.  After her interview, we have to cross our fingers and hope the case officer isn't playing hardball with us.  Meanwhile, an illegal climbs over a fence runs across a freeway, gets food stamps, and medical treatment I can barely afford myself.  On top of that they have their anchor babies on our dime. When I see these "migrant workers" it's like I almost wish I was white enough to join the Ku Klux Klan.  Let's see what happens if I skip out of the ER without paying the bill.  Bounty hunters would probably kick down my door and hog tie me for the authorities.

They see the Panamanian flag on my car, think they can just walk up to me speaking in Spanish with their hand out.  The only time I'm hispanic enough for them is when they want to try to beg and mooch off me.  Any other time, I'm a "vendido" (sell out) tainted by the anglo American culture.  I tell them "Dejo me por favor!  No me pregunta para nada" (kind of "don't bother me please!  Don't ask me for anything!).  When I was a kid I got in a little scuffle with a Mexican in (El Paso) school trying to steal from me.   After confronting him, he said "your daddy's a white man, he can get you anything".  With that attitude it's no wonder the some of the so called anglos want to join White Power groups.  IMO Mexico should be added to the list of axis of evil nations.  That nation is not a friend of the USA and it's their fault for not taking care of their own citizens.  Even Panama, several borders down, has had to expel Mexicans sneaking in there.  They are invaders and should be regarded as such.  So far I've never seen a Russian or Ukrainian try to panhanlde from me in the Wal-Mart parking lot.  Let more of them in instead.
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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2006, 08:09:24 AM »
Update:

 We went to the congressmans office this morning and spoke with their Immigration Specialist who will be following our case for the next filing.

 We were advised to file again with me as the sponsor and when we receive the receipt letter we will give the congressman's office the case number for them to contact the congressional liaison in the USCIS branch office where our case will be processed (Missouri) where it will be flagged as being a "case of interest" to the congressman. Hopefully this flag will get the attention of the district office so that they will actually pay attention to what they are doing this time and just maybe Sergei will have his AOS before he graduates from high school (he'll go to 1st grade this fall).

 They were very professional and helpful and I urge anyone who has a problem with USCIS to go this route.

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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2006, 09:22:32 AM »
That was well said Swede, and I agree with you 110%, I know this is a little off topic, but it getting pretty bad, and people don't even realize, I live in So.Cal. and they had to close 5 trauma centers in Los Angeles, because if illegals getting a free ride, I pay $274.00 a month for a crappy HMO, and if I bring my RW and her child my payments jump to $750.00 a month. here is a website that might be of interest to you

www.numbersusa.com
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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2006, 03:02:50 PM »
And they would grnt these people amnisty...? ??? 

Mexican Immigrants.......????

(All 10 of the following are from the Los Angeles Times)

1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has over 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3's of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County). Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare.

AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE DEMANDING AMNESTY !!!! They are also flying the Mexican flag above the American Flag and even flying the American Flag upside down.

Folks.......we are in a heap of trouble......and our government doesn't have a clue about dealing with it !!!

It is VERY simple.....just enforce our present laws!!!
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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2006, 09:55:37 AM »
Wow Ken, sorrry to hear about your latest immigration hassles.  It looks like you are making headway.  It is a shame this had to happen and you have to pay for something you already paid for - without getting any compensation for time delay or your personal increase in blood pressure.  The most amazing thing is that our RW or our RW plus children are the last thing the USA has to worry about. 

LatinSwede, I feel for you.  Louie, thanks for the link.  Interesting stuff.  I am glad I do not live in Southern California.
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Re: Do you resent this uneven treatment?
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2006, 11:17:27 AM »
Thanks Bruce but this is nothing compared to what your family is going through right now. I think we all get so caught up in our own problems that it takes a shocker like your accident to bring us back to reality a bit and to realize that we have a so much that is wonderful and precious on our lives to cherish and be thankful for. These little things like the USCIS are just that, little things.

Best wishes for all of your family!

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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2006, 05:30:22 AM »
Have you ever thought of adopting the 6 year old child?  He gets automatic US citzenship.  best thing about that is you can dump the USCIS ( as far as he is concerned)

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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2006, 06:12:13 AM »
We have talked about that. At the present time I don't want to cause any more problems by trying to do to much at one time and I don't trust USCIS to not confuse the issue further if we introduce another legal body into the mix. We're just going to take this one step at a time for right now. Once his status is set then we can move on to the family related issues without the other worries.

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