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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #950 on: March 10, 2019, 04:26:27 AM »
Front page of the Sunday Telegraph today...."Public swinging behind No Deal ".


Survey by ComRes finds that 44 % of the British public now want to leave the EU on a no-deal,a rise of 6% from January...whilst just 30 % disagreed.


Now Moby,we all know your reading comprehension ain't too good,so i'll spell it out for you as i would to an infant child.


This survey means that 44% of the British public don't just want to LEAVE the EU..they want to LEAVE on a NO-DEAL....got that ?


The smart ones among us knew this of course,whilst deluded bremoaners like Moby make deranged /lying statements about the British public wanting to remain.


Back in your box Moby.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2019, 04:39:29 AM by Chelseaboy »
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #951 on: March 10, 2019, 07:43:50 AM »
For those of you who really have the smarts..The Daily Telegraph is a leave paper......


http://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-there-was-a-referendum-on-britains-membership-of-the-eu-how-would-you-vote-2/

Poll of polls suggests consistently Remain


Carry on being noisy..with no substance..

Mrs May will lose on the 12th




 
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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #952 on: March 12, 2019, 08:20:58 AM »
Well it the 12th and it looks like the EU deal is set to be rejected again this evening and we'll be on course for a no deal Brexit :D
No Deal is Ideal, It's a Free Britain we want :)

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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #953 on: March 12, 2019, 11:05:36 AM »
According to Reuters there's no majority, not even close to a majority, in the UK parliament in favor of a second Brexit referendum vote. So  there's not likely to be a 'people's vote' on Brexit.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-secondreferendum/no-majority-in-british-parliament-for-second-brexit-referendum-reuters-analysis-idUKKBN1QS0R2

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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #954 on: March 12, 2019, 11:44:17 AM »
According to Reuters there's no majority, not even close to a majority, in the UK parliament in favor of a second Brexit referendum vote. So  there's not likely to be a 'people's vote' on Brexit.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-secondreferendum/no-majority-in-british-parliament-for-second-brexit-referendum-reuters-analysis-idUKKBN1QS0R2

Indeed you are correct, more than that now that the EU, Juncker, Barnier, etc have said that is absolutely it as far as their concerned there is literally no point delaying Brexit, for what? Nothing more would be able to be negotiated, it would be just wasting more time.

Hopefully the EU's remaining 27 members will see that and be unwilling to extend and hopefully the UK Parliament will after tonight.

There's not enough support in Parliament to bring a second referendum. Nor is there enough support for the UK to remain in/join the EU customs union. Theresa May can't go there after tonight as the Tory Brexiteers and possibly the DUP would rather bring down their own government in a vote of no confidence and time out the clock, plus it goes against everything she has said.

Best that thing she can do tonight is set out that practically there is now no alternative and state No Deal Brexit :D

Some have said she'll either step down or call a General Election. Calling a General Election by her hand would serve no purpose unless it was to derail a no deal brexit so unlikely. She might step down and that is possible if she really doesn't want to steer the country through Brexit with a new leader being chosen after Brexit. That would be if she really wasn't keen on a no deal brexit. There's still good news to be had by making a success of it so she may well stay on.
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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #955 on: March 12, 2019, 11:48:24 AM »
Well it the 12th and it looks like the EU deal is set to be rejected again this evening and we'll be on course for a no deal Brexit :D

Then I still don't know why you haven't put your life savings on the generous 5/1 on offer with the bookies...

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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #956 on: March 12, 2019, 01:03:58 PM »
Because like all Trenchie's evaluations...they SUCK..



Tonight Mrs May will getva kicking and the option to leave with no deal will be gone tomorrow..

Trench was full of it all along
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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #957 on: March 12, 2019, 02:08:49 PM »
Because like all Trenchie's evaluations...they SUCK..



Tonight Mrs May will getva kicking and the option to leave with no deal will be gone tomorrow..

Trench was full of it all along

Well the EU Deal is dead, where else do you think they will go now Mobers? No deal is all that is left as far as I see it.
No Deal is Ideal, It's a Free Britain we want :)

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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #958 on: March 12, 2019, 02:17:42 PM »
Well the EU Deal is dead, where else do you think they will go now Mobers? No deal is all that is left as far as I see it.


Trench, do you deliberately try to come across as stupid or what?


If a no deal is the only outcome you can see, then read or watch the news for the alternatives, it isn't too difficult.

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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #959 on: March 12, 2019, 03:27:14 PM »

Trench, do you deliberately try to come across as stupid or what?


If a no deal is the only outcome you can see, then read or watch the news for the alternatives, it isn't too difficult.

All of the alternatives so far have been voted down in motions, their supporters just simply haven't got the support of enough MP's in Parliament never mind the country. So I am left wondering what our Moby could be talking off????
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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #960 on: March 12, 2019, 04:54:55 PM »
Trench,

            You do realize that the 70% remainer Parliament will be voting No deal off the table tomorrow ?
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #961 on: March 12, 2019, 05:52:37 PM »
Trench,

            You do realize that the 70% remainer Parliament will be voting No deal off the table tomorrow ?

They probably will vote No Deal down and vote for a pointless extension of Article 50 merely so they can harp on for another two months.

The EU member states look likely that they will be reluctant to extend Article 50.

The Remoaners are increasingly being hemned in for all sides. They'll struggle to put across a Customs Union or similar when they haven't got a democratic mandate for it and when not enough agree on a Customs Union but other options, EEA, Norway option, etc. They also haven't been able to get enough votes for a second referendum to date. Even if they did there is not enough time with a two month extension. The clock has essentially run out of time for them. In any case the PM has said she is against any of that and Corbyn is unenthusiastic for it.

Remoaners such as Moby just need to come to their senses and realise the game is up :)

I personally believe it is most probable that the EU member states will put us out of our misery and refuse to extend Article 50.

In any situation the Withdrawal Act stands, any significant attempt to reverse Brexit and Tory Brexiteers are highly likely to bring down their own government and call a General Election. It really is game up for the Remoaners even if they can't see it.
No Deal is Ideal, It's a Free Britain we want :)

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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #962 on: March 12, 2019, 06:01:53 PM »
)))

Trench, do you read all situations as badly?

No deal will be off the table,  tomorrow

Your signature line has always amused me ......
« Last Edit: March 12, 2019, 06:07:17 PM by msmob »
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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #963 on: March 12, 2019, 06:04:42 PM »
)))

Trench, do youbread all situations as badly?

No deal will be off the table,  tomorrow

Your signature line has always amused me ......

Ok, so how do you see what happens?
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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #964 on: March 12, 2019, 06:06:29 PM »
According to Reuters there's no majority, not even close to a majority, in the UK parliament in favor of a second Brexit referendum vote. So  there's not likely to be a 'people's vote' on Brexit.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-secondreferendum/no-majority-in-british-parliament-for-second-brexit-referendum-reuters-analysis-idUKKBN1QS0R2

Our 'Dave' with his finger on the pulse of UK politics strikes again. ..

Watch and weep...



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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #965 on: March 12, 2019, 06:15:03 PM »
Ok, so how do you see what happens?

My bet ( from which you ran) was a clue

Do you write to failed dates and ask them how you blew it, too?

The worst case scenario is us  as an EEA member ..giving up deciding policy. ..but obeying the rules of the club with Corbyn in charge.

The best is remain and try to appease all the businesses and nations we pissed off..

Cameron's deal will be seen as the one that got away..

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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #966 on: March 12, 2019, 06:16:24 PM »
Our 'Dave' with his finger on the pulse of UK politics strikes again. ..

Watch and weep...

Mobe, even if there was a vote in Parliament now in favour of a second referendum it would have to be legislated for, then held within the two month extension, then if there was a vote for a Customs Union time to get that sorted with the EU. At a squeeze it might be possible but tricky as time is ticking by. At any point the Tory Brexiteers can bring down their own Government with a General Election thereby freezing all Parliamentary business thereby achieving No Deal Brexit whatever and wherever the vote come from. It's checkmate at every turn ;D
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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #967 on: March 12, 2019, 06:25:38 PM »
Poor Trench

Where DO you read your 'news'?

The clock rundown ruse is not going to work..

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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #968 on: March 13, 2019, 01:35:28 PM »
Well that was a much closer one than I had ever imagined. No Deal Brexit was rejected by MP's by 312 votes to 308 votes, so by just four votes in a non-binding vote.

If the PM had actually voted for No Deal herself as she should have done and made it a party vote it would probably have passed. Even still with the house split roughly 50/50 now rather than the previous 70/30 against its surely given a lot of support to a No Deal Brexit. My thoughts are after such a large vote for No Deal that Theresa May should admit the game is up and go for No Deal Brexit. After all it's now gained the most support in the house by far of any other option including her now dead in the water EU Deal that is going nowhere. Funny thing is there is actually way more support for No Deal Brexit in Parliament than there was ever for her deal, lol.
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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #969 on: March 13, 2019, 01:52:43 PM »
Trench, the more you write the more you show you have no clue. You don't even understand the different votes and what they were for!

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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #970 on: March 13, 2019, 01:59:54 PM »
Ignore Trench..

The PM has proved that she is STILL not listening by her words as soon as she had another kicking

Tomorrow night there will now be a vote to enforce a request an extension to article 50..



Mrs May has already indicated that she  wants a very short time and Corbyn is still dodging letting the people decide



The UK is indeed in a constitutional crisis of the PMs making while trying to run down the clock.



Tomorrow is the night that Mrs May will need another kicking to finally realise her plans are not required.




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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #971 on: March 13, 2019, 02:46:19 PM »
The votes tonight are non-binding..just a load of MP's playing games like a bunch of spoilt kids.


Meanwhile,in two and a half years these same useless MP's have failed to sort out a worthwhile deal to leave the EU between them....too busy scoring points off each other and becoming tv celebs.
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #972 on: March 13, 2019, 03:15:09 PM »
Ignore Trench..

The PM has proved that she is STILL not listening by her words as soon as she had another kicking

Tomorrow night there will now be a vote to enforce a request an extension to article 50..



Mrs May has already indicated that she  wants a very short time and Corbyn is still dodging letting the people decide



The UK is indeed in a constitutional crisis of the PMs making while trying to run down the clock.



Tomorrow is the night that Mrs May will need another kicking to finally realise her plans are not required.

Apparently there was four abstentions. If the PM got behind No Deal it could have carried the day.

Tomorrow I am hoping that the extension will be voted down. That will just leave us to time out the clock in two weeks time :D

All other options are now exhausted, the EU is fed up and will see no point in carrying on and hopefully will help put us out of our misery by no convincing member states to agree to a time extension since there is no agreement that has been passed and negotiations are now complete.

Game Over Mobers :)
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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #973 on: March 13, 2019, 03:57:39 PM »
Apparently there was four abstentions. If the PM got behind No Deal it could have carried the day.

Tomorrow I am hoping that the extension will be voted down. That will just leave us to time out the clock in two weeks time :D

All other options are now exhausted, the EU is fed up and will see no point in carrying on and hopefully will help put us out of our misery by no convincing member states to agree to a time extension since there is no agreement that has been passed and negotiations are now complete.

Game Over Mobers :)


I'll give you a hint; the clear majority vote wasn't won by 4...you're making yourself look sillier all the time.

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Re: Brexit good, bad or indifferent?
« Reply #974 on: March 13, 2019, 04:10:52 PM »

I'll give you a hint; the clear majority vote wasn't won by 4...you're making yourself look sillier all the time.

There were various votes with slightly differing phrases. So at this point a lot of needless postering rubbish over the same issue. We really are now past the point in this Brexit saga where it is of significance to split hairs, there is only one option remaining No Deal. Question remains of how long it will take enough MPs to realise it.
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