Is this for me?

[redking11]

I lived in Western North Dakota for 4 years during the oil boom. Even the toothless
crones with facial tattoos who were 170lbs overweight and had an ankle bracelet
telling their probation officers where they were had a gaggle of men around them.
If you wanted a woman then you had to bring your own, because they didn't have
ANY unmarried women there.

This is the truth! I work and live in the Permian and every decent looking women is married to a POS oil guy who will go broke every time a bust hits because he can't save a dime, every girl is married by the age of 21 and all the ugly one still get more attention that a pile of shit in a fly factory. Not to mention that 50% of the pop is hispanic and they just don't do it for me. 

[treadmilldude]

I think redking11 and Dragonkid are one and the same person. I think Dragonkid is having a little fun playing games with RWD. Look at the style and content of writing - they are identical.

An MD with a disrespectful attitude that also likes to belittle other people and use curse words.....hmm reminds me of someone....oh yeah, Dragonkid!!   

[redking11]

I think redking11 and Dragonkid are one and the same person. I think Dragonkid is having a little fun playing games with RWD. Look at the style and content of writing - they are identical.

An MD with a disrespectful attitude that also likes to belittle other people and use curse words.....hmm reminds me of someone....oh yeah, Dragonkid!!

I assure you that we are not the same person and I apologize if I came across as disrespectful, it was not my intention, though I do play devils advocate sometimes because you can learn from the insight. As for a few curse words, I am guilty of that, hey we all wear different hats and believe it or not docs aren't angles and we have our professional work hat just like everyone else. If you can think of any questions about west TX or NM (my home state) that only a local would know the answer too feel free to fire  away.

[treadmilldude]

I am sorry, I would not know anything about Texas. I have never been to Texas, I know nothing about Texas. I have heard, though, they do have a GREAT Football team, the Dallas Cowboys.

[Boethius]

Let me get a little personal. My first wife only married me because I got accepted into med school and she admitted as much. To her I was just a bank account. There is nothing worse than being bitched at because the car, vacation, house ect, isn't big enough. I just want a relationship where I'm more than money, and now, in the U.S. I can't hide my income and truthfully, I'm probably a little jaded and see more gold digging tendencies in the AW that I date than are actually there. My thinking was 1. I could at least hide my income from a FSUW and hey if I can get a younger more attractive FSUW than I would get an AW, so much the better.

This is why you were the target of an AW who viewed you as a bank account, why you attract golddiggers, and why you will have a similar result with an FSUW. 

[redking11]

This is why you were the target of an AW who viewed you as a bank account, why you attract golddiggers, and why you will have a similar result with an FSUW.

I don't buy that. You know nothing about my ex-wife's and I's history.

But now I wonder. Would it have been better to have started my search when I was still in residency? I would have been poor but still in my 30's. Age vs. income which would have had the better chance of resulting in a quality relationship.

[Boethius]

It's you who have stated you were the target of golddiggers.  I am merely responding to what you post.


Considering what you state you seek, I am not surprised at the result.

[IAmZon]

Why would a 25 who looks like a model be interested in a 42 year old? Unless you are making good money, which you will need to spend. Sounds like you been dating sugar babes,

What a perverse thought process to start with !!!!  Obviously an AM who has lived in a land where a person is his / her age.   BUT!  I have met a ton of woman in their 20's who are butt ugly / stupid / uneducated / lacking character (ah ... the little things).


When I was 42, I started to worry about my age - I started to feel father time creeping up on my linear thinking, American psyche.  By 47 - 48, I did not care amy more.   Now, at 52, age remains a distant measure to me.    I have a gorgeous 32 year old American wife.   I have many former lovers and girl friends that remain friends to both me and my wife.  Our relationship and friendship was not based upon sugarbaby stuff. 


Try to be the best you can be.  Don't be an asshole.  I think most men would be surprised by their true value.  If, on if ...

[redking11]

What a perverse thought process to start with !!!!  Obviously an AM who has lived in a land where a person is his / her age.   BUT!  I have met a ton of woman in their 20's who are butt ugly / stupid / uneducated / lacking character (ah ... the little things). 


Try to be the best you can be.  Don't be an asshole.  I think most men would be surprised by their true value.  If, on if ...

We are all products of our environment to one degree or another, but you offer solid advice about being kind and a good person.

[redking11]

I am confused about something that I hope can be explained. I read about the horrible economy in the Ukraine and how people earn only a few hundred dollars a month, however when I watch videos, the cities are all very nice, clean, beautiful buildings, the women are dressed nice ect. There is no sign of poverty like you see here. Already here on my first post I have read comments about how women in the Ukraine have more than adequate opportunity to marry rich European men, and have bright futures, high lifestyle expectations and financial security ect.

Can someone who has been there explain to me the economic reality for the country and these women that I'm not quite understanding?

Many Thanks

[treadmilldude]

Oh, I don't know Redking, you might be able to answer those Q's yourself. I mean, you are Dragonkid, and he is the wisest person on RWD. Noone as wise as Dragonkid.

[Larry1]

Redking,

1. There are poor people and rich people in Ukraine. You will see the latter in major cities.

2. Don't believe everything you read.

[dragonkid]

Just so you know, some of the women in my age group , that look like your typical plastic doll , who are for example 25 and put down they are searching for 40 to 65, they are the only ones who put salary expectations on their profile. Majority of them expect something like $40k-$80k, for them that is high income bracket. You may run into gold diggers unintentionally, as they prey on older guys because they feel like they are the only ones that can supplement $40k-$80k.

Already here on my first post I have read comments about how women in the Ukraine have more than adequate opportunity to marry rich European men, and have bright futures, high lifestyle expectations and financial security ect.

Can someone who has been there explain to me the economic reality for the country and these women that I'm not quite understanding?

Many Thanks

If we are talking about women like this





They have guys after them, maybe the guys will stick around. I have no idea, i know one girl who from looking at her Instagram, was involved with a guy that had a lambo, he was my age as well. I have no idea why she is after me though  i asked her if she had expensive taste because of the stuff i saw on her Instagram, she said no, she doesn't expect anything from a man. These are the women that just want the best deal, they want someone that have some physical attraction for, but don't want to marry a guy in russia where it is tough to survive. This is what i mean, the women vary in my age group.

I was in yessentuki, near Chechen region, bit of corruption there, Russian wealthy families, maybe worth a few million. My ex showed me some of her friends, they hooked up with rich russians, it can be done. If a woman has the looks, she can easily find a guy your age who has money, and resides in russia, she doesn't need to uproot her life.

[Slumba]

Going to call this as a fake account,  no doctor mis-spells and mis-capitalizes like that. "lexus caddy" LOL

[redking11]

Going to call this as a fake account,  no doctor mis-spells and mis-capitalizes like that. "lexus caddy" LOL

Oh hell, now I have to use proper spelling and capitalization or I'm not a doctor? Give me a break. I'm not writing a dissertation or trying to impress you, and to be honest, your attitude towards doctors is much more common that my writing and typing skills. My friends and l are routinely baffled at how members of society view us. Heaven help us if we speed or have something in our teeth. Oh and did you know that it is a proven fact that if a Dr. uses a word incorrectly he is completely incompetent to practice medicine? Proven fact.

The truth is that docs took two semesters of undergrad english just like every other student, not one class more. writing and language is not our strong point. We were too busy taking chem, o-chem, biology, physics, micro & molecular biology, bio-chem, ect, you know that science stuff

[IAmZon]

We are all products of our environment to one degree or another, but you offer solid advice about being kind and a good person.

To restate strongly (and this addresses 30% of all posts on this board), men do not need to live on "auto-pilot" and accept DISQUALIFYING assumptions in life, work, or love.   In fact, if you learn to create your own definitions, you may well reach a very different - and fulfilling - conclusion.


LEAVE THE TRIBE.

[Larry1]

I disagree that redking is a fake account.  The writing standards on a forum aren't nearly as stringent as all that. I sometimes fail to write in capital letters when I should. As long as posts are understandable I'm more than happy with them.

[Slumba]

I think I am right, but if somehow shown to be wring I will apologize.  I have doctors in my family and I know how they talk and express themselves.  That was the frame of reference that I operated from.

[redking11]

You make me laugh, well smile at least. I really can't believe that you are attempting to judge my level of education based on the care I put into my speech and typing while on a forum. Apparently med school turned us all into clones and a 42yo doc that grew up barely middle class in rural NM & that went to a mid tier tx med school should sound exactly like a 65yo jewish doc raised upper class on the east coast and that went to a top tier med school.

Short of my grammar being just awful, your broad generalization is rather idiotic if you think about it.  

[Trenchcoat]

and honestly! do you guys understand how far and few between women that are not overweight are in rural communities! lol it's sad and the obesity crisis in our country is not getting any better!

Obesity has become a crises with the female population in particular here in the UK too, so I feel your pain. To me its so grotesque and weird like an odd peculiar species. I can't relate and they seem to not see the problem that its shocking.

Anyway, to your OP hiding your money from a FSW is the best way to proceed for you. I found during my search that talk of wealth/job, etc was best avoided as much as possible and anything that would be tell tell signs. In fact dumbing yourself down in terms off wealth & Job is probably a good way to proceed, then all the gold diggers move on quick. In general its not too bad in the FSU for gold diggers but they exist, many types of scams also exist from women wanting a free holiday even in their own country to those after money. The conversion of dollars or pounds into their currency is astounding, its like going back to prices in the 1980s but with todays earning power. Also, remember on UK guy got driven over (murdered?) for his money(we may assume) that his recently married wife then went to claim. So yes it really is best of hiding it I think.

Well, I have been in contact with a girl about 15 years younger than me, she has raised no questions relating to wealth. I am in the beginning phase of planning a trip over there in the next month or so. It will be my second trip, it may or may not work out, but I am willing to give it a punt. From what I read into her I have noticed on her profile that she has received attention from men in her early forties. I'm thinking she is attracted to older guys. There are women out there that are, they want that older guy younger girl relationship, makes them feel more secure or whatever, kind of like a father figure & husband rolled into one. Still, there are no certainties I have researched her but it may all go south, yet it will not doubt give me more experience and learning on the FSW scene so helping me in the future. I would suggest getting involved first as getting over there is the only way you'll know whether you want to spend time on this venture, that's my thoughts anyway.   

[Noch1]

I didn't read all of this, but really didn't have to.
You talk about what you want, and she should be happy
your a great guy with values and will give her upper level life.
no you WON"T, read your own posts.
you have very little in the way of values, you want a girl you can control.
Limit and better yet, want to do it on the cheap LMFAO.
Gotta give you credit for trying the BS. But really, these girls are smart.
Best you keep playing your games with American girls.

[Slumba]

and a 42yo doc that grew up barely middle class in rural NM & that went to a mid tier tx med school should sound exactly like a 65yo jewish doc raised upper class on the east coast and that went to a top tier med school.

Who's the one making assumptions now lol.

[Boethius]

It will be my second trip, it may or may not work out, but I am willing to give it a punt. From what I read into her I have noticed on her profile that she has received attention from men in her early forties. I'm thinking she is attracted to older guys. There are women out there that are, they want that older guy younger girl relationship, makes them feel more secure or whatever, kind of like a father figure & husband rolled into one.

They're rarer than you think.

She is getting that attention because those are the men who are looking for foreign women, predominantly.  If all these UW were truly interested in much older men, there would be lots of marriages with big age gaps locally.  There aren't.

[dragonkid]

They're rarer than you think.

She is getting that attention because those are the men who are looking for foreign women, predominantly.  If all these UW were truly interested in much older men, there would be lots of marriages with big age gaps locally.  There aren't.

The only age gaps i know of in Russia are from the women my ex showed me, but those were typical Russian guys in their 30's driving hummers, slightly chubby. Another girl told me of a guy in russia who is worth a few million, divorced his wife, hooked up with a woman 20 years younger than himself, he provides the money, she gets taken care of.

I have a ex i dated who was English, she really isn't mind blowing if i compare her to the russian women i talk to, but she is with a guy now who is making £500k a year salary, god knows what investments he accumulated over the years, he keeps that quiet. For a British girl, she is considered pretty damn good, nice ass,slim waist, and big tits. The guy is approaching 45, she is 22ish.

Majority of the time the only time a young woman will be interested in a much older guy is for $$ , guys saying Russian woman prefer older guys are dead wrong. They probably got tired of being passed around by young sex tourists, and realise they can't catch one, and decide to settle. The other reason is they just want money from the start, and find older guys easy prey.

 My parents have a 10 year gap, but they are rare, my dad was in poor health and finances, my mother was stunning, but they met in the UK, there was no "what can i get" from the relationship, my dad punched way above his weight, i never seen something so one sided. I find it funny guys keep trying to delude themselves, if you really want a woman who is interested in you, stay at home.

[BillyB]

I'm on the fence as to whether I should attempt to date and marry a woman of the FSU and would like suggestions. Here is my situation. I am a 42 yo doctor, I make $350,000 a year

You got the tools but if you have the talent, you can find a high quality woman in the FSU. Communicate with lots of women and filter them out. No reason to get involved with gold diggers unless you are lacking understanding how they operate. You're an intelligent doctor but are you wise on life? Go to the FSU and promise only an average American life to a woman. Try to win her heart and mind based on who you are, not what you own. Even if I were a billionaire, I would act and spend like a normal guy.

You want a pretty girl. Don't we all? If you catch one, don't be stingy. Keep her pretty. Let her dress nice. Let her buy quality make up. I wouldn't want my woman wearing stuff made in China.

I was 41 when married to my wife who was 19. I didn't target women of that age. I targeted all beautiful women and there's not a guy here who dated more women that was older than themselves than I. I mainly dated FSU women in the states but kept writing thousands overseas. Two Russian college girls who were friends were looking for a city to work in. I got along with one and we decided she and her friend can come live with me during their stay. Fate had it they briefly stopped in NY first and their Russian friends convinced them to stay in NY. That opened an opportunity for me to visit my wife who previously invited me to visit her. My wife never took me shopping and she resisted my attempts to buy her gifts in Ukraine. She likes to shop like most women but is willing to buy name brand stuff like Gucci only in second hand stores. If you understand how sincere women talk, you can find one too.

I took some heat on this forum for marrying my wife but I don't believe someone half my age is going to take advantage of me. I'm not even scared of divorce. I can do what I'm doing over and over and over again without using money as a lure.