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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #225 on: April 12, 2019, 10:22:47 AM »
What was the name of this lake before it was named for Perry ?

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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #226 on: April 12, 2019, 11:47:14 AM »
What was the name of this lake before it was named for Perry ?
Larius lacus in Latin ;).


The hills surrounding the current location of Como were inhabited, since at least the Bronze Age, by a Celtic tribe known as the Orobii. Around the 1st century BC, the territory became subject to the Romans. The town center was situated on the nearby hills, but it was then moved to its current location by order of Julius Caesar, who had the swamp near the southern tip of the lake drained and laid the plan of the walled city in the typical Roman grid of perpendicular streets. The newly founded town was named Novum Comum and had the status of municipium.

Como was the birthplace of many historical figures: the writers Pliny the Elder and Pliny the Younger, Pope Innocent XI, scientist Alessandro Volta. The latter is celebrated on the lake shore by a solid mausoleum (Tempio Voltiano)


against which I crashed and luckily was not killed :D during my first, and last, flight lesson on a float plane of the local Aero Club, whose President was at the controls, in September, 1984 (http://www.floriani.it/Como-eng.htm).
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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #227 on: April 12, 2019, 12:02:11 PM »
That figure refers to arrests only in the province of Lecco, a city (bottom right) on a branch of Lake Como.



Thanks, Sandro.  That makes more sense.


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Europe in the News..Notre Dame Cathedral fire
« Reply #228 on: April 15, 2019, 12:54:31 PM »
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Notre Dame Cathedral as massive fire rages   
  • The roof of Paris' Notre Dame Cathedral collapsed Monday as a massive fire ripped through the structure.
  • The city's mayor and firefighters warned people to stay away from the area. There have been no confirmed deaths, according to Paris police, while a French government official said no injuries had yet been reported.
  • President Emmanuel Macron will be going to the scene of the fire, according to an Elysee official. He mourned the landmark in a tweet.
http://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/15/paris-notre-dame-cathedral-on-fire-reuters.html   

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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #229 on: April 15, 2019, 12:59:57 PM »
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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #230 on: April 15, 2019, 01:34:24 PM »
There is already talk about restoration of what appears now as total destruction. I have doubts there.
The construction of Notre Dame began in the mid 11th century. 52 acres of timber was used and it took 200 years to complete. It was certainly an amazing artifact.

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Re: Europe in the News..Notre Dame Cathedral fire
« Reply #231 on: April 15, 2019, 02:00:22 PM »
 7 or 8 services were planned for Easter next Sunday expecting around 100,000 in total attendance.
 Video and updates here...  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/04/15/notre-dame-cathedral-fire-paris/3474597002/
 
 

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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #232 on: April 15, 2019, 02:24:54 PM »
Seen construction scaffolding at the scene. I'd bet money a construction worker accidently started the fire. Welding and soldering can do that.
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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #233 on: April 15, 2019, 02:51:23 PM »
The most important to come : who is responsible for such fire?
If it's not criminal it's ok.

If it's criminal and with some religious motivation, that's will be a storm in the next weeks, months.

Read : "Operation white panther"
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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #234 on: April 15, 2019, 05:46:33 PM »
My sincere sympathy Pat. 

Loving history and art, I feel a great loss.  And I am just an American, a Protestant one, who has been to Paris only twice.  Millions of tears are flowing in Paris tonight. 


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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #235 on: April 15, 2019, 05:52:11 PM »
"that's will be a storm in the next weeks, months."

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Re: Europe in the News..Notre Dame Cathedral fire
« Reply #236 on: April 15, 2019, 06:17:51 PM »
 The Notre Dame bells-----
A picture link at wiki....   http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Notre-Dame_de_Paris_-_Les_nouvelles_cloches_-_001.jpg/800px-Notre-Dame_de_Paris_-_Les_nouvelles_cloches_-_001.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris#Bells
The bells [10] have all been named. Also they are tuned. How would they tune a bell that weighs 13 tons?

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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #237 on: April 15, 2019, 06:22:59 PM »
I hope it is an accidental event.   

So close to Easter, though, I would not be stunned if this were arson.

The World Trade Center, the Pentagon and an attempt on the US Capitol, we have an inkling of how it feels.....
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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #238 on: April 15, 2019, 07:45:35 PM »
I hope it is an accidental event.
It seems so, according to initial impressions of the Paris fire fighters on the scene. The fire seems to have started from the scaffolding in place for the cathedral restoration -ironically ::) - and spread to the under roof areas, then the spire.

Heavy Medieval cathedrals like Notre-Dame (built from 1163 to 1344) relied on relatively light wooden timber architraves and trusses to support their roofs.

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Re: Europe in the News..Notre Dame Cathedral fire
« Reply #239 on: April 15, 2019, 07:58:18 PM »
How would they tune a bell that weighs 13 tons?
By sanding its internal surface (in pink below) until the desired sound frequency is obtained when striking it.

The sound made by a struck metal surface depends on its length (fixed in a bell) and thickness.


Glockenspiel (Glocken=bells+Spiel=sound)
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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #240 on: April 16, 2019, 05:40:23 AM »
The vaulted ceiling constructed of huge timbers collapsed, which would reduce the outward push on the walls. 

Yet it seems the walls and the famous flying buttresses remain intact.    :clapping:



Two French billionaires from the luxury goods business are donating hundreds of millions to reconstruct the cathedral. 

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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #241 on: April 16, 2019, 08:03:42 AM »
which would reduce the outward push on the walls.
Supported by flying buttresses. Gothic cathedrals reached for the sky ad majorem Dei gloria, and their colossal weight had to be lightened in various ways, for instance by huge windows - not only to admit light within.


The Sainte-Chapelle, also in Paris
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Re: Europe in the News - 'Trampu' strikes , AGAIN
« Reply #242 on: April 16, 2019, 08:24:39 AM »
Can someone stick a dummy, ( 'pacifier / soother' ) in 'Trampu's' gob, please ?

http://www.france24.com/en/20190415-notre-dame-blaze-flying-water-tankers-not-option-paris-france-firefighters


I realise the USA doesn't have buildings this old ..but

"The use of flying water tankers to extinguish the fire at Notre-Dame Cathedral is not an option, French officials said on Monday night. The weight of the water could cause the entire structure to collapse."

The problem now,  is to stop the walls falling INwards - as the roof pushd the walls out ..

Not too many experts in 'Gothic' Cathedrals about ...

Apparently - France's major Churches have 3D scans of their makeup - so this will help - plus the fact that many artefacts had been removed during the restoration  - so are not lost

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Re: Europe in the News - 'Trampu' strikes , AGAIN
« Reply #243 on: April 16, 2019, 09:41:39 PM »
Can someone stick a dummy, ( 'pacifier / soother' ) in 'Trampu's' gob, please ?

http://www.france24.com/en/20190415-notre-dame-blaze-flying-water-tankers-not-option-paris-france-firefighters


I realise the USA doesn't have buildings this old ..but

"The use of flying water tankers to extinguish the fire at Notre-Dame Cathedral is not an option, French officials said on Monday night. The weight of the water could cause the entire structure to collapse."

The problem now,  is to stop the walls falling INwards - as the roof pushd the walls out ..

Not too many experts in 'Gothic' Cathedrals about ...

Apparently - France's major Churches have 3D scans of their makeup - so this will help - plus the fact that many artefacts had been removed during the restoration  - so are not lost

I see the media lies about Trump again when they claim he said aerial tankers can do the job. Trump said "Perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out. Must act quickly!" Trump saying "perhaps" means he has some doubt but mentioning it may be a solution to fighting the fire.

The media assumes Trump is talking jumbo jet tankers. Single prop airplanes carry a few hundred gallons of water at a time and can distribute the weight of water so not to collapse the roof.... which happened anyway. Helicopters with buckets can grab water from the river and drop the water with precision. Also the buckets and tanks have gates that can control the flow of water.

Instead of appreciating Trump for suggesting a solution, anti Trumpers got to complain...again.
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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #244 on: April 16, 2019, 10:16:57 PM »
It appears that all the statuary that surrounded the spire were removed for renovation.   Thus the heavy items that may have fallen into the sanctuary were secure in storage.
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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #245 on: April 17, 2019, 12:28:11 AM »
Only Silly BillyB could try to suggest what 'Trampu' posted wasn't dumb..

At least he isn't suggesting it is a terrorist act and spreading bollox about 'two laughing Muslims celebrating their arson'....

I cannot figure out if those sharing such things are that gullible or stirring up trouble, to polarise..((

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Notre Dame Fire in detail ( graphics and photos )
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Re: Notre Dame Fire in detail ( graphics and photos )
« Reply #247 on: April 17, 2019, 08:55:27 AM »
Before and after shots http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47947425
A fine and thorough image coverage of th event. BBC :clapping:.
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Re: Europe in the News
« Reply #248 on: April 17, 2019, 05:03:53 PM »
 
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Notre Dame may take decades to fix. The first concerns are water and soot There are millions of gallons of water poured into the structure that will seep down to the crypt, the basement...Pumping out that water could take months, and years may pass before the entire building is completely dry.
http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-notre-dame-fire-rebuild-science-engineering-20190417-story.html
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As of Wednesday morning, about €880 million ($994 million) had been raised for what is sure to be a massive rebuilding project, Presidential cultural heritage envoy Stephane Bern told broadcaster France-Info.
Much of that money is coming from some wealthy French citizens, including Salma Hayek’s husband François-Henri Pinault, who heads Kering SA, the fashion company behind Gucci and Alexander McQueen among other luxury designers. Pinault pledged a donation of €100 million ($113 million).
http://people.com/travel/1-billion-donated-to-notre-dame-in-two-days-after-massive-fire-ravaged-paris-cathedral/

 

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