Latest info re immigration from Trump

[Gator]

True, I’m not an expert on the subject, but what I’ve seen about it here in the US has more to do with racism than immigration and it’s always been that way

Yep, when a liberal starts losing an argument, they throw out the race card.

Yesterday, I gave you statistics of how the anti-immigration movement in the RSA is similar to the US situation, except the illegals are black like the citizens.  Race is not the key factor in the US IMO.

[krimster2]

Gator, I read your post, each country has its own individual circumstances, it really boils down to having a perception of “us” and “them”, the difference between us and them can be based on race, nationality, religion, or your favorite football team, just because one country has an immigration issue with nationality, doesn’t alter the fact that another country’s immigration issue could be based on race or religion instead.

“Yep, when a liberal starts losing an argument, they throw out the race card. “

I invite you to go to google and type in the following: immigration racial cartoon
and click on images, you can see that this issue has been around quite a long time in the US, yes I’m calling our immigration laws racist, and I don’t believe this claim is a false one, and neither does Google.

[fathertime]

True, I’m not an expert on the subject, but what I’ve seen about it here in the US has more to do with racism than immigration and it’s always been that way

Right now, in 2017 it certainly does have a racial element to it, there is little doubt about it.  Certain republicans will squirm, and squeal about the 'race card' but you can be sure in their private circles they also groan about the 'mexicans' or the 'chinese' in a way that they wouldn't be whining if it were Ukrainians or Norwegians. 


The illegals that entered through wink wink/ nod nod governmental policies have created entire lives here, and shouldn't be sent 'home' suddenly now.  We (The government) should acknowledge what we have done (probably never happen), and if we don't want to continue, then build the wall, and get serious about enforcement, yet allow for a way to permit those that have entered prior to continue with their lives without being deported.  Our government and certain individuals aren't big on admitting being complicit, so I won't hold my breath.

Krimster,

Should you get off your brotherly soap box, I can tell you that a stud home of about 12 X 12 takes two and a half days to build, with the right tools.  Typically, the new home owner will stucco their home so it is only incumbent on you to wrap the studs with small gauge chicken wire.

And you can stumble off of the high horse you are so fond of.  He is not talking about building homes himself.  Next time you advocate for a large governmental policy, maybe the solution is to tell you to start patrolling the South China Sea in a mini sub you built in your backyard.   


Fathertime!

[krimster2]

I’m building a missile defense system based on giving everyone in the US hand held mirrors, when millions of people all point their mirrors at an incoming missile it’ll be vaporized, hopefully attacks will not happen at night!

[jone]

And you can stumble off of the high horse you are so fond of.  He is not talking about building homes himself.  Next time you advocate for a large governmental policy, maybe the solution is to tell you to start patrolling the South China Sea in a mini sub you built in your backyard.   


Fathertime!

He advocates a policy of helping the homeless in Mexico.  And he claims that he travels in Mexico.  What is wrong with going down there and building homes?  I have done so. 

Oh, that's right.  You're on troll duty.  You sit like a toad looking at your computer all day.  Get off your fat behind and pitch in and help.  But that would be contrary to what you like to do with your life, which is snipe at people around you.

[fathertime]

He advocates a policy of helping the homeless in Mexico.  And he claims that he travels in Mexico.  What is wrong with going down there and building homes?  I have done so. 

Oh, that's right.  You're on troll duty.  You sit like a toad looking at your computer all day.  Get off your fat behind and pitch in and help.  But that would be contrary to what you like to do with your life, which is snipe at people around you.

There is nothing wrong with it, nobody said there was...right now he is taking a position regarding governmental policy, which is different, and you react like a sorry crybaby. 


It is you that sit near a computer all day like a sad little angry troll.  I caught you angrily sniping which is normal for you, and now you are upset that you are once again receiving incoming for your consistent hypocrisy.     Yeah it fun watching you totter off your high horse. 

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[krimster2]

that’s a great idea Jone, build houses not walls, imagine if we spent 5 billion on houses for the poor in Mexico instead of a wall to keep them out

[jone]

It is not for the government to do, Krimster.  The government should defend our shores, deliver our mail and get the hell out of our lives.

But, you, on the other hand, should not be so quick to spend your neighbor's hard earned wages.  No, you should go and build houses yourself.   You talk of your Christian ethics.  But your solution is to have the government do what you should be doing yourself.  It is the ultimate Liberal copout.  If you really believe in helping the people of Mexico, join up with a church that goes South of the border to help out and do something.  I have.

[GQBlues]

LMAO! Spare me...

I have quite a bit of travel experience in Mexico, my favorite place is Guanajuato. I’ve also been to many of the border towns like Magdalena in Sonora, and also to Merida in the Yucatan not to far from Chichen Itza, which is stunning, I highly recommend going to the big public market in Merida. I don’t like Mexico City so much, I prefer the smaller places. 

The one thing that is striking to me is the poverty there, even though the people work very hard, it doesn’t seem to matter, they can just barely survive.  People in the small villages fare better because they can have supplemental gardens and grow extra food, extraordinary to watch the big tortilla slicing machines that the government provides to give poor people a government supported food supplement.  I’ve seen homeless children huddled together at night for warmth, villages where most of the people live in shacks with dirt floors and no indoor plumbing, and then there are the cartels, which rob and kill and extort and make the lives of good honest people a hell, even local bus companies have to pay a “krisha” to them, so fares went up.  Then there are mass murders that happen frequently...

So I see all this, and I have to say, that if it were my children living in this, I’d do anything to get them out, so I guess I have a character flaw of empathizing with these people.  They’re not here to steal or rob or kill, but to give their kids comfort and security that they can’t obtain back in Mexico.  We could soften our immigration laws, give the DREAMERS a chance, we could choose to help these people, but what I have seen in the people here in the US after returning here from Ukraine, is nothing more than raw bigotry displayed towards them.

So what I wished for you was that you see the world through their eyes, to feel what it’s like to know that you are powerless to protect your children from drug lords and poverty no matter how hard you worked to do so.  Are you so hard hearted that you cannot look upon your brothers and your brothers children with compassion?  Is it really wrong for me to do so?

Translation: If you're screwed by your own government, you have the right to cross into anyone's border and demand your entitlement that you couldn't with your own nation. If you live in an impoverished region, you have the right to break into anyone's home and take whatever you want as long as you make sure their grass are mowed and the dishes clean.

krimster, I'm sure you've travelled extensively, yet I am aghast at the way you actually 'see' the things that you do. Have you ever considered that the majority of folks living outside of big cities in their respective countries actually DO PREFER living the way they do?

It is highly pretentious of you to 'think' you are so 'privileged' that the first thought that races through your mind is how desolate and desperate these people seem to you. It's fascinating. Why do you dramatize other folks' living situations/conditions simply because it's different than your world? I've travelled too but I also am very aware that my definition of heaven may starkly be different than another.

What makes these folks 'poor and pitiful' in your eyes? That they depend on their 'gardens' to help supplement their daily food? Maybe raise their own livestock? In many ways, we should all be 'lucky' to have such a life, no?

Listen, Mexico is one of the world's biggest economy. They have endless resources to foster and produce. They have lured and been rewarded by countless US companies moving their plants due to globalization and trade. They have 'oil', agriculture...and on top of that, the US gives them an annual foreign aid to the tune of $ 400-500 million every year. The sins of their politicians is not the Americans' crosses to bear.

What point are you really trying to make here? That the US should open its border to the world's poor and pitiful according to your censorious eyes?

[fathertime]

It is not for the government to do, Krimster.  The government should defend our shores, deliver our mail and get the hell out of our lives.

But, you, on the other hand, should not be so quick to spend your neighbor's hard earned wages.  No, you should go and build houses yourself.   You talk of your Christian ethics.  But your solution is to have the government do what you should be doing yourself.  It is the ultimate Liberal copout.  If you really believe in helping the people of Mexico, join up with a church that goes South of the border to help out and do something.  I have.

well the people here will just have to take your word on that one....it is interesting that you are now trying to use this good deed as leverage/credibility in a discussion. 
You really don't know what he has done directly/indirectly to be helpful, and we really don't know what you have done or haven't done either, so how about we just 'dismiss' your claimed past actions, just the same as you are so quick to dismiss others.   


There is a pretty good chance that the illegals have NOT been an overall net drain on our society...here we are in 2017, the stock market, housing market, overall wealth in the US is at VERY high levels.  Even the poor people have big screen TV's and beer money.   although life isn't easy, this has all happened with 10's of millions of illegals amongst us.  If a wall is built and no more are allowed to come unchecked so easily that is fair enough, without going through great pains to deport the vast majority that are already here, working hard, and keeping their noses clean.


Fathertime! 

[krimster2]

“Have you ever considered that the majority of folks living outside of big cities in their respective countries actually DO PREFER living the way they do?”

uhhh no, it never occurred to me that someone living in extreme poverty would prefer it that way

“Why do you dramatize other folks' living situations/conditions simply because it's different than your world”

because it was a shock for me to see human beings having to live this way, but according to you maybe that’s just the way the want to live, kind of like the way my mom used to buy rustic antique furniture, I also saw this style of living in villages in Ukraine, I once saw a dilapidated shed that I thought was a chicken coop, turned out there was a family living inside

“That they depend on their 'gardens' to help supplement their daily food? “

In Crimea, I bought 3 dachas about 12 cotek each that were next to each other, merged them together and built a farm house, had chickens, pigs, as many as 2 cows, and sheep.  my father in law is Moldovan and very familiar with animal husbandry, and he and my wife taught me and the kids some things, oddly enough I was the only one who was squeamish about butchering the animals and not my 2 girls who were pretty young at the time.  we grew our own veggies and fruits, father-in-law lived in the farm house with my mother-in-law and extended family while my family and I lived in Sevastopol, and we’d visit them once a week or so.  I mentioned it not in a condescending way, but in a way that meant that people who had access to a little bit of land could grow their own food like we did, but not everyone was so lucky with land access in Mexico or Ukraine.

“It is not for the government to do, Krimster.  The government should defend our shores, deliver our mail and get the hell out of our lives.”

If this were the 18th century I might agree with you, but it’s the 21st century and thinking has evolved a little past this, maybe when you become ill someone can put leaches on you to cure you if you like that time period so much, that was standard treatment back then...

thanks for the invite to Mexico, unfortunately vacations are done by consensus in my family, we were planning on Amsterdam this summer , but now it looks like Barcelona, besides the farm house was my last major construction project and that was done about 10 years ago, my ability to do that kind of work is limited now by creeping old age, I’m sure many of you are familiar with this, hmmmm?

“Listen, Mexico is one of the world's biggest economy”
if that were true then why is the average wage in Mexico about $6 PER DAY?  last time I went into a Gigante (Heegantay) super-market in Sonorra the prices were just a little lower than in the US, how do people survive there on so little money?

“What point are you really trying to make here? That the US should open its border to the world's poor and pitiful

you mean like “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

hell no, that’d be socialist!!!

[GQBlues]

uhhh no, it never occurred to me that someone living in extreme poverty would prefer it that way..

Extreme poverty because they raise they own food? LMAO! Understand 'relativity'. Look what we define us 'living in poverty' in the US. Households replete with all/most comforts of life and a big screen TV!!!

Fascinating, isn't it?

because it was a shock for me to see human beings having to live this way, but according to you maybe that’s just the way the want to live, kind of like the way my mom used to buy rustic antique furniture, I also saw this style of living in villages in Ukraine, I once saw a dilapidated shed that I thought was a chicken coop, turned out there was a family living inside

You had obviously lived a very sheltered life to even begin to understand the huge difference between 'rural' living from living in poverty. Travel more and open your eyes, krimster. You've yet to learn much.

In Crimea, I bought 3 dachas about 12 cotek each that were next to each other, merged them together and built a farm house, had chickens, pigs, as many as 2 cows, and sheep.  my father in law is Moldovan and very familiar with animal husbandry, and he and my wife taught me and the kids some things, oddly enough I was the only one who was squeamish about butchering the animals and not my 2 girls who were pretty young at the time.  we grew our own veggies and fruits, father-in-law lived in the farm house with my mother-in-law and extended family while my family and I lived in Sevastopol, and we’d visit them once a week or so.  I mentioned it not in a condescending way, but in a way that meant that people who had access to a little bit of land could grow their own food like we did, but not everyone was so lucky with land access in Mexico or Ukraine.

Ahh, so you did experienced the marvel of rural/provincial living. Wonderful lifestyle, isn't it?

If you had travelled, you should know in many places, rural/provincial living allows people to establish their own plot with little to no restitution to the government. This is widely true to a lot of 3rd world countries. Build your huts, cultivate your fields, raise your livestock and BWALLA! you're a self-sufficient lot with little to no aid from your government. Hell, sometimes folks who prefer to live inside city proper despite the hardships it represents in these countries, build what we refer to as 'squalor' or squaters'. No rent, no mortgage...

if that were true then why is the average wage in Mexico about $6 PER DAY?  last time I went into a Gigante (Heegantay) super-market in Sonorra the prices were just a little lower than in the US, how do people survive there on so little money?

"IF"? You mean you don't know? Best you should do a bit more reading or the likes of AnotherKiwi will label you 'insular'.

you mean like “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

I'm not a native born citizen, but even I know what were the purposes of Ellis and Angel Islands, krimster.

hell no, that’d be socialist!!!

NO. It's called respecting one's right to sovereignty.

[krimster2]

“Extreme poverty because they raise they own food? LMAO!”

OMG! I’m laughing as well because you don’t seem to be able to grasp what I am say-ing

I am say-ing that poor people who can grow their own food because they have access to a small plot of land to use for this purpose are more fortunate than those who do not have access to the small plot of land.  Not everyone has equal access to a small plot of land...

For example, Bill and George, live in the same approximate geographical location and each makes about $2000 per year, Bill however has access to a half acre of land that he uses to grow supplemental food and George does not, therefor Bill is more fortunate than George because Bill has access to the land to grow his supplemental food.  Are you seriously not getting this?  I could ask my daughter to draw a picture for you with a happy face Bill with his garden and extra food and a sad face George who lacks this, would this help you?? 
Note: Bill and George are not real individuals but hypothetical ones used for illustrative purposes, in case you ask me how much land they had...


“You had obviously lived a very sheltered life to even begin to understand the huge difference between 'rural' living from living in poverty"

Thanks for the tip, I spent half my childhood on my grandparents small farm, no animals except canines, plenty of greenhouses and orchards though, and my Uncle who lived not far away had the largest poultry farm in the area, google “Ace Farm Monroe NY, I even worked there a few summers”  I also spent a lot of time in libraries reading and developed some pretty fair reading comprehension skills, what did you do with your time I wonder?

“If you had travelled, you should know in many places, rural/provincial living allows people to establish their own plot with little to no restitution to the government. “

not in any place I’ve ever been to, and certainly not Mexico or Ukraine, can you name such a place?

“I'm not a native born citizen, but even I know what were the purposes of Ellis and Angel Islands, krimster.”

good then you know that it was primarily a quarantine, my Grandparents went through two other quarantines before they arrived at Ellis Island on their way from Ukraine to the US, one in Hamburg and another in Hull, England

“IF"? You mean you don't know? “

yeah, I really don’t know how people manage to survive on so little, so guess I SHOULD read some more, or just allow you to enlighten me unless you don’t know either

“NO. It's called respecting one's right to sovereignty.”

so you’re saying that pre-1924 immigration which was more or less open border with some glaring exceptions that the US abandoned its sovereignty?

so if yur one of them foreigners, where ya from? hmmmm  please don't tell me Mexico, the irony would destroy me...

[LiveFromUkraine]

krimster, I have spent time in 3rd world countries.  I have already written about it a little on this forum and don't plan on repeating it here.


Like I said, you're assuming you know more than the rest of us because we don't come to the same conclusions as you do.  I do not wish you and your family bad things because we don't agree.


For all of your emotional pleas, you still haven't explained, in detail, what you want to see happen with immigration.  You said you don't want open borders but after that went with more emotion than specifics. 


How about you tell us what you would like to see.


Do you want to bring in all Mexicans living in poverty?  What is the poverty level?  What about the people above poverty?  What about other countries like the Philippines, South American countries, India, African countries where poverty is rampant?  How many do you want to bring in before you think our resources are tapped?

[krimster2]

“It is highly pretentious of you to 'think' you are so 'privileged' that the first thought that races through your mind is how desolate and desperate these people seem to you”

really, so if I think that people whom I see living in shacks made of old boxes with no indoor plumbing are desolate, that I am being ‘pretentious’, do you understand the meaning of this word, how is that even remotely pretentious, who am I impressing with this observation?

if it’s all “good in the hood” as you claim with the shack and dirt floor, then please explain the following statistic, why does Mexico have an infant mortality over four times higher than Sweden’s?  Infant mortality can be used as a mapping variable for poverty.  Poverty doesn’t look so benign as you claim

You think maybe it’s the jalapenos?


Sweden Infant mortality
male: 2.9 deaths/1,000 live births.

Mexico Infant mortality
male: 13.3 deaths/1,000 live births.

Honestly I’ve read some silly and ridiculous stuff on this board, but I doubt anyone will ever exceed the falseness or ridiculous nature of your comments

When you make stupid comments like this, I don’t see the need to debate with you, what’s the point, there’s nothing at all to debate

[krimster2]

“krimster, I have spent time in 3rd world countries.  I have already written about it a little on this forum and don't plan on repeating it here.

GOOD! THANK-YOU!!!

“I do not wish you and your family bad things because we don't agree."

OMG, quit freaking crying because when I suggested you try walking in someone else’s shoes you mistakenly think I want to crush your damned feet....

I tell you what, pass the DREAM act, which has been gathering dust for the last 15 years and I’d be satisfied with that until Hispanics become the voting majority and can take care of things themselves...

all ist Klar?


no wonder Donald Trump is your President, who else could it possibly be for you people? and yes I mean that as an insult

[jone]

Fortunately, for all of us, your extreme positions do not have any traction with the current government.  But, seeing how you don't practice what you preach, my guess is that your contributions here are meant to create drama. 

I don't think you really care about any of this, you just want to provoke the forum.  Have fun spending your money in Amsterdam.  If you really practiced what you preached, you'd forgo your family vacation and donate the money you would have spent on your causes.  Think how many starving Mexicans you could feed with the money you are spending on your family.  LMAO.

Everyone has their own opinion. 

As for the Dream Act, it might have legs after the borders are secure.  Not this session.  One of my longtime friends was brought to the US as a two year old.  She would qualify as a Dreamer.  I wholely support her path to citizenship, as I would others.  But, if you think you will shift the balance of power with enabling dreamers, well, many would have to move into red states to do so.  And the pushback is real in the Rust Belt.  We may be seeing a shift in the voting demographics of our country.  And it ain't towards your liberal views. 

That's gotta hurt.  (Das tut mir leid.)

[LiveFromUkraine]

I don't think you really care about any of this, you just want to provoke the forum.  Have fun spending your money in Amsterdam.  If you really practiced what you preached, you'd forgo your family vacation and donate the money you would have spent on your causes.  Think how many starving Mexicans you could feed with the money you are spending on your family.  LMAO.

Wait, you think he should actually deplete his resources helping those in poverty before demanding others to do so through emotional pleas.  Aghast, man!  Crazy talk.


This is more about him trying to elevate himself over others.  Typical.

As for the Dream Act, it might have legs after the borders are secure.  Not this session.  One of my longtime friends was brought to the US as a two year old.  She would qualify as a Dreamer.  I wholely support her path to citizenship, as I would others.  But, if you think you will shift the balance of power with enabling dreamers, well, many would have to move into red states to do so.  And the pushback is real in the Rust Belt.  We may be seeing a shift in the voting demographics of our country.  And it ain't towards your liberal views. 

That's gotta hurt.  (Das tut mir leid.)

The whole demographics shift is what the Dems have bet their whole future on.  They found out quickly it doesn't work.  haha  It seems many still cling to it in denial.  Not all latinos think the same way as krimster and I suspect many will change their views after living and working here through different stages of their lives.


As for the Dream Act, I don't support citizenship but certainly permanent residency.  He still didn't say what he wanted when it came to immigration.  He mentioned the Dream Act but then said that would allow them to take care of themselves.  So there must be more to what he envisioned for ongoing immigration.  For some reason, he can't be honest about it here and just say what he wants or thinks should happen.


I hope Krimster wakes up one day and starts saying "bigly" and starts wrapping his hair around his head to try and make it appear full.  Then he can see what it's like to live that life.

[krimster2]

GQBlues!!

OH my, you do know that stopping immigration from “non-white” countries is the pet topic of white supremacists don’t you?  You do know that being a Filipino you’re not considered white don’t you?  Can you connect these two facts by any chance? So you and your family were/are at one time Spanish speaking immigrants to the US who likely would have been subjected to the same discrimination and prejudice at the hands of white supremacists as Mexicans, but you are on the side of the white supremacists, and you say I’m “phuqued-up” Oh the delicious irony....
funniest and saddest thing I’ve ever read here!!  yeah, please do tell me just how awful and wrong MY views are ....

[LiveFromUkraine]

GQBlues!!

OH my, you do know that stopping immigration from “non-white” countries is the pet topic of white supremacists don’t you?  You do know that being a Filipino you’re not considered white don’t you?  Can you connect these two facts by any chance? So you and your family were/are at one time Spanish speaking immigrants to the US who likely would have been subjected to the same discrimination and prejudice at the hands of white supremacists as Mexicans, but you are on the side of the white supremacists, and you say I’m “phuqued-up” Oh the delicious irony....
funniest and saddest thing I’ve ever read here!!  yeah, please do tell me just how awful and wrong MY views are ....

Good thing you let your gardener's kids use your pool otherwise people may think you're a white supremacist.  haha

[krimster2]

“your extreme positions do not have any traction with the current government.”

yeah, well there’s always tomorrow,
The sun will come out tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow
There'll be sun

Just thinkin' about tomorrow
Clears away the cobwebs and the sorrow
'til there's none

“But, seeing how you don't practice what you preach, my guess is that your contributions here are meant to create drama.  “

you go ahead and talk all you want about someone you don’t know anything about, please continue, the more you say the more amusing it becomes...

“If you really practiced what you preached, you'd forgo your family vacation and donate the money you would have spent on your causes.  Think how many starving Mexicans you could feed with the money you are spending on your family.”

I can easily afford to do both, anything else you want to add?

“We may be seeing a shift in the voting demographics of our country.”

which will be nothing compared to the ones that’s coming...

yeah, tomorrow, tomorrow....

[jone]

“your extreme positions do not have any traction with the current government.”

yeah, well there’s always tomorrow,
The sun will come out tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow
There'll be sun

Just thinkin' about tomorrow
Clears away the cobwebs and the sorrow
'til there's none

“But, seeing how you don't practice what you preach, my guess is that your contributions here are meant to create drama.  “

you go ahead and talk all you want about someone you don’t know anything about, please continue, the more you say the more amusing it becomes...

“If you really practiced what you preached, you'd forgo your family vacation and donate the money you would have spent on your causes.  Think how many starving Mexicans you could feed with the money you are spending on your family.”

I can easily afford to do both, anything else you want to add?

“We may be seeing a shift in the voting demographics of our country.”

which will be nothing compared to the ones that’s coming...

yeah, tomorrow, tomorrow....

Yeah, send us pics.

[krimster2]

why should I bother?

[Gator]

I invite you to go to google and type in the following: immigration racial cartoon
and click on images ...yes I’m calling our immigration laws racist, and I don’t believe this claim is a false one, and neither does Google.

I invite you to go to google and type in the following: immigration racial cartoon
and click on images.

The Google response is now very different.   Only a couple of racial cartoons. 

You do realize you are deluding yourself.  Or you consider us stupid.  Or you do not know how to analyze information.  None of these three are good. 

[krimster2]

“I invite you to go to google and type in the following: immigration cartoon
and click on images.

“The Google response is now very different.   Only a couple of racial cartoons.” 

OMG, really Gator this is so freakin’ simple,  I wanted you to specifically see the “racial immigration cartoons”, they number in the thousands, and NOT mickey mouse,  this reinforces the assertion that immigration is a racial issue,  if it’s not then why the thousands of cartoons, some over 100 years old when you type in the phrase?

please don’t say, “but what about immigration and corn syrup, there’s only 2 racial cartoons with those”, my point was to illustrate the depth of the subject by the sheer number of images and the long time period over which they’ve been created, is this clear now, or is it still kind of Fuzzy?

BTW, if I type in 57 Chevy I don’t get any racial cartoons eexcept about rednecks

“You do realize you are deluding yourself.”

how? By trying to see how many immigration racial cartoons there are by typing in the phrase, The result is that there are thousands of them,

“no you’re deluding yourself because if you type in immigration cartoons there aren’t near as many,”

well duh, if I type in “hydrogen poroxide” there are even less, the only way I’d be deluding myself would be if I typed in racial immigration cartoons and only got 4 or five, but I got thousands, there are LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF RACIAL IMMIGRATION CARTOONS, get it?  with that many hits it’s real connection