"Generous, not greedy" on so many women's profiles

[redking11]

His point was about your attitude.  Your mentality is, as I posted, the polar opposite of FSU mentality.  So this is really a lost cause for you.  You can believe otherwise, I don't really care, just pointing out the obvious.

Fantastic! Thank you for your unsolicited opinion, I am fully aware that you beleive that my mentality is the complete polar opposite of a FSUW and that i have zero chance of succeeding with a quality FSUW. Now that you have shared it, and that I clearly understand your opinion there really isn't a reason to re-share it in every Thread I start, so please please please don't.

[Boethius]

I will post where I want when I want, provided I'm on topic.  And I didn't state FSUW.  I stated FSU mentality.  I hope you are more detailed oriented when dealing with patients.

[redking11]

RK..

You should tell them on the first date.. THEN you'll not waste their time.. 


My FSUW - eventually - signed a pre Divorce Financial Separation Agreement stating we weren't interested in each others' assets ... no Lawyers - other than the fee for the agreement..   

FAR more classy .. than saying, '' Marry me, move to my country, leave your friends and family, but I don't trust you, really"

msmob, you have made it more than clear that you disagree with my attitude, my mentality, my everything including my intentions to have a pre-nup signed. I'm not you, I don't like you, I don't think like you. I'm going to do what I want. You are not going to change a single opinion of mine or a single thing I do. I'll tell a women about the pre-nup when I'm ready. If I want to wait until late in the relationship in the hopes she is too emotionally involved to back out, then I will. If I want to date her and 2 other women at the same time, sleep with them, then dump them I will. If I fall in love with a woman and treat her better than any man has ever treated her and better than any woman you have ever treated, and let her walk all over me, I will. I'm not seeking your opinion or your advice and I'm going to ignore anything you  say because I consider you a jerk and 2 time failure at marriage. So keep wasting your time standing at your holier than thou pulpit telling me how I'm a horrible person. I don't care.   

[redking11]

I haven't read all your posts, but if indeed you are looking to keep the age range lower that probably bodes well for the longevity of your potential future marriage. 


Insofar as being a bit tight with the pocketbook, I'd consider lightening up just a bit on that...unless you really have bills/expenses that warrant it.  Going after a younger, attractive lady is going to be fun, and spending money helps facilitate fun mutual experiences, which can foster the relationship.  It may not always be like that years later (and you can make her aware of that if need be), but for the courting phase, and early marriage, I say why the hell not! 
Fathertime!

FAthertime.

As I have said before, terms like frugal or tight are relative. I profess to being tight and in someways I am but in other ways I am not. I'm frugal in my day to day living but if I'm out of country or on vacation I don't waste it by not spending money. I'm probably in reality not much tighter than most the guys here. Would I buy my girl lambo or  Ferrari? No. but hey if she wants a nice lexis, mercedes, ect. not a problem. Is she going to get a grand every week for new clothes (52k a year)? No, but she can have a few shopping trips a year where she spends a couple grand (6-8k annually). Not a problem. Is she going to go to Europe 4 times a year? No, only once, maybe twice if there is a special family occasion. Does that sound overly cheap? If so? then let me know your opinion once then stop sharing it please. 

[BillyB]

A lot of women would like the good life but they don't want to throw away the family's money either. I've learned many of these ladies will be financially responsible once they feel they are responsible for your and maybe their money should you become a couple. Redking, you will just have to communicate and date women to figure them out. Some guys here have been lucky and found a gem with the first women they communicated with and married. Others, like myself, went through a bunch of women to find a gem.

[msmob]

msmob, you have made it more than clear that you disagree with my attitude, my mentality, my everything including my intentions to have a pre-nup signed. I'm not you, I don't like you, I don't think like you. I'm going to do what I want. You are not going to change a single opinion of mine or a single thing I do. I'll tell a women about the pre-nup when I'm ready. If I want to wait until late in the relationship in the hopes she is too emotionally involved to back out, then I will. If I want to date her and 2 other women at the same time, sleep with them, then dump them I will. If I fall in love with a woman and treat her better than any man has ever treated her and better than any woman you have ever treated, and let her walk all over me, I will. I'm not seeking your opinion or your advice and I'm going to ignore anything you  say because I consider you a jerk and 2 time failure at marriage. So keep wasting your time standing at your holier than thou pulpit telling me how I'm a horrible person. I don't care.   

Actually, you DID seek advice and didn't like what you heard...   

I also said with your attitude - you're not cut out for this venture... there was no need to demonstrate that I had a point..

[tfcrew]

With all this discussion about pre-nups...it might be wise to research the subject in the archives.
With most cases of court rulings, a pre-nup w/a foreign bride is worthless.
[Except for the attorneys]

[redking11]

I wouldn't be scared if a FSU woman said they are looking for a generous man, not greedy although gold diggers would definitely say those things. Some men are stingy and can't afford a woman because they are lacking money. Other men have money and are stingy not wanting to spend a dime on their family. Some women just want to be loved more than a man loves himself. Guys can be stingy with women on a date but spend crazy money on his toys.

Part of being a quality man with these women is being able to take care of family which includes wife and kids. Taking care of them means spending money on them. None of these women dream of their man being so cheap requiring wife and kids to shop at Walmart for all their needs or live in a trailer home.

I think I'm going to have a heart attack. Someone actually addressed the qustion that was asked instead of making a personal attack. I really didn't think it was possible on this forum.

But hey my family shopped walmart when I was a kid and I did all through college!

[redking11]

I will post where I want when I want, provided I'm on topic.  And I didn't state FSUW.  I stated FSU mentality.  I hope you are more detailed oriented when dealing with patients.

Trust me the human body is much easier to understand than the way you think.

[redking11]

With all this discussion about pre-nups...it might be wise to research the subject in the archives.
With most cases of court rulings, a pre-nup w/a foreign bride is worthless.
[Except for the attorneys]

Thank you for the info, I'll look into the why and see if there is a way around it.

[Gator]

Thank you for the info, I'll look into the why and see if there is a way around it.

Consult with a family law attorney.  Don't do your own research. 

If a prenup is to survive a challenge in court, you will need to prove, among many requirements,  she understood fully each and every provision  and she did not sign under duress.   

Even if she speaks excellent English, she will require the counsel of a Russian speaking attorney licensed in the state where you reside.   Such an attorney may not practice family law, so she may need a family law attorney as well.   You can probably surmise by now that the legal fees will be expensive and the process will take time,  including a series of meetings with her American attorneys. 

There is more........much more. 
 

[BillyB]

But hey my family shopped walmart when I was a kid and I did all through college!

My wife will shop at Walmart if she needs something there but Walmart clothes and perfumes aren't that great so she shops elsewhere for that. I'm glad she does shop elsewhere for those items. Although more expensive, my wife looks good. She's like most women that dream of owning designer clothes and bags such as Gucci or Michael Kors but she'll shop at an outlet mall or even find those items new or very good condition at second hand stores such as Goodwill. I never knew before marriage if she'll ever shop Walmart or second hand stores but I never required her to shop there either. As she develops a stronger bond with me and values our money, she naturally become smarter in getting more bang for the buck. If you find a woman that is wise and that will eventually understand your finances, you shouldn't have to worry about her spending money on stupid stuff or overpaying on items.

If a prenup is to survive a challenge in court, you will need to prove, among many requirements,  she understood fully each and every provision  and she did not sign under duress.   

Most people believe a prenup is good protection against a spouse that want to take them to the cleaners should a divorce happen. Being taken to the cleaners can't happen without the court's approval. A prenup is protection against a family court judge, that's allowed a lot of discretion, from going too far outside state guidelines for splitting assets. There are ways judges can give one side or the other much more than what is believed fair according to state guidelines.

[redking11]

Disturbing? How is it disturbing if your whole intro thread approaches FSU wife endeavor as a search for a cheap Stepford wife? You wrote that first and foremost you want a 25 year old model, a trophy wife. But a trophy wife on cheapskate budget. And if you cannot get one in the FSU it is not worth the trouble. You think you can get one in the FSU because people are so poor and life is so horrible that just your passport and a modest lifestyle will buy you a trophy wife.


Well just like you these women want the biggest bang for their buck (as in the most well-off man who is not greedy and willing to spoil a trophy wife)


Just quit being a hypocrite.

Pitbull you make some very valuable points & I really am asking myself why I would consider pursuing a FSUW. Apparently they are impossible please unless you are a multi-millionaire willing & able to spend tens of thousands of dollars every year on design clothes & shopping trips to Milan, & don't forget the yacht. No self-respecting Ukrainian girl is going to look at you unless you have a yacht on the Mediterranean. I was actually stupid enough to think that Ukrainian women were interested in leaving their country because they lacked financial opportunities & security (it's not like Ukraine has the lowest or one of the lowest GDP's in Europe). Apparently I was very confused & life there is rich & prosperous.

So because I cannot afford a rich spoiled Ukrainian girl ,I will look for a poor American girl that will be satisfied with ski trips to Purgatory Mountain Resort near Durango, CO, & the houseboat time share on Lake Powell, fishing trips to Alaska & trips to Vegas. Blues and Brews fest in Telluride just isn't good enough for a Ukrainian woman but I know a few nice American girls that think blues music & craft beer make for a good time. I can't afford a lamborgini to keep a Ukrainian happy but that's ok because I know a couple of American country girls that think going 4 wheeling in my cj8 is THE definition of a good time. I guess next time I want to do something like hike Machu Picchu, I'll have to find an American girl because Ukrainian women only like places like Venice or Madrid. And that trip to the Caribbean two years ago? Well, Thank God I wasn't stupid enough to ask a Ukrainian to go with me, she would have been so insulted! After all its not the French Riviera. So Pitbull you made your point. I'm just too poor & cheap to get or keep a Ukrainian woman. 

Let's look at your other point that you made so well. Ukrainian women view their beauty as their & I quote "most valuable attribute". Point made! Ukrainian women are shallow! I'll take your word for it & let's not forget, & I quote again "these women want the biggest bang for their buck (as in the most well-off man who is not greedy and willing to spoil a trophy wife)" Okay, so Ukrainian women treat the institution of marriage as a form of prostitution, so they are in a way you could say "monogamous whores". Hey don't be insulted by the term, I am the first to admit that monogamous prostitution is far better than traditional whoring, much safer, & much more respectable. Once again I'll take your word for it, that FSUW are like this.

Let's follow your view of marriage & women to its logical conclusion. If marriage is a business deal & women are commodities whose value is based on their beauty then, they are like cars that lose value with each passing year & each new wrinkle.  I'm not a financial genius but even I can see that if you view women & marriage in a strictly monetary light, this is one case where you are probably better off renting than buying.

Pitbull, you & others make a big deal out of age. 10 years isn't uncommon here in the US, my parents were 9 years apart. I know several couples that are 10 years apart. I  would have no problem if my daughter married a guy 10 years older than her if she loved him, but I sure as hell hope that I raise her to be better than a quasi-whore that marries for money because she is too scared or lazy to make her own way in the world or is unwilling to struggle a little in life. You are telling me Ukrainian women are lazy, scared girls that sell their bodies so they don't have to work or be poor. No, that's not what you said? But you said they marry to get the biggest bang for their buck didnt you? I know it's not true, I have read of lots of FSUW that get jobs once here. I also know that between skiing trips & lake trips with a houseboat & Mastercraft & trips overseas & all the other things that I'm NOT cheap & stingy about that my $350k a year income offers the average Ukrainian girl one hell of a lifestyle upgrade.

But, no Pitbull, you have convinced me that Ukrainian women are shallow gold diggers So I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to treat them exactly how you describe them. Now I see the Ukraine for what it is, an entire country of women waiting to spread their legs for you. All it takes is interesting & charming conversation,  some nice dinners, wine, a few moderate gifts, show her pictures of the 4000 sq/ft house, the boat, the family cabin, tell her you love her & want to marry her, and then after the sex, dump her. Pitbull thank you for helping me understand that I don't want to marry a Ukrainian girl, its so much better to use the place as an adult playground.

[redking11]

Actually, you DID seek advice and didn't like what you heard...   

I also said with your attitude - you're not cut out for this venture... there was no need to demonstrate that I had a point..

I didn't ask advice from you and have already told you in another post that your opinon is not welcome, 2nd, you offered criticism, you didn't actually answer the question i asked. So once again, you're really just a jerk. 

[GQBlues]

Pitbull you make some very valuable points & I really am asking myself why I would consider pursuing a FSUW. Apparently they are impossible please unless you are a multi-millionaire willing & able to spend tens of thousands of dollars every year on design clothes & shopping trips to Milan, & don't forget the yacht. No self-respecting Ukrainian girl is going to look at you unless you have a yacht on the Mediterranean. I was actually stupid enough to think that Ukrainian women were interested in leaving their country because they lacked financial opportunities & security (it's not like Ukraine has the lowest or one of the lowest GDP's in Europe). Apparently I was very confused & life there is rich & prosperous.

So because I cannot afford a rich spoiled Ukrainian girl ,I will look for a poor American girl that will be satisfied with ski trips to Purgatory Mountain Resort near Durango, CO, & the houseboat time share on Lake Powell, fishing trips to Alaska & trips to Vegas. Blues and Brews fest in Telluride just isn't good enough for a Ukrainian woman but I know a few nice American girls that think blues music & craft beer make for a good time. I can't afford a lamborgini to keep a Ukrainian happy but that's ok because I know a couple of American country girls that think going 4 wheeling in my cj8 is THE definition of a good time. I guess next time I want to do something like hike Machu Picchu, I'll have to find an American girl because Ukrainian women only like places like Venice or Madrid. And that trip to the Caribbean two years ago? Well, Thank God I wasn't stupid enough to ask a Ukrainian to go with me, she would have been so insulted! After all its not the French Riviera. So Pitbull you made your point. I'm just too poor & cheap to get or keep a Ukrainian woman. 

Let's look at your other point that you made so well. Ukrainian women view their beauty as their & I quote "most valuable attribute". Point made! Ukrainian women are shallow! I'll take your word for it & let's not forget, & I quote again "these women want the biggest bang for their buck (as in the most well-off man who is not greedy and willing to spoil a trophy wife)" Okay, so Ukrainian women treat the institution of marriage as a form of prostitution, so they are in a way you could say "monogamous whores". Hey don't be insulted by the term, I am the first to admit that monogamous prostitution is far better than traditional whoring, much safer, & much more respectable. Once again I'll take your word for it, that FSUW are like this.

Let's follow your view of marriage & women to its logical conclusion. If marriage is a business deal & women are commodities whose value is based on their beauty then, they are like cars that lose value with each passing year & each new wrinkle.  I'm not a financial genius but even I can see that if you view women & marriage in a strictly monetary light, this is one case where you are probably better off renting than buying.

Pitbull, you & others make a big deal out of age. 10 years isn't uncommon here in the US, my parents were 9 years apart. I know several couples that are 10 years apart. I  would have no problem if my daughter married a guy 10 years older than her if she loved him, but I sure as hell hope that I raise her to be better than a quasi-whore that marries for money because she is too scared or lazy to make her own way in the world or is unwilling to struggle a little in life. You are telling me Ukrainian women are lazy, scared girls that sell their bodies so they don't have to work or be poor. No, that's not what you said? But you said they marry to get the biggest bang for their buck didnt you? I know it's not true, I have read of lots of FSUW that get jobs once here. I also know that between skiing trips & lake trips with a houseboat & Mastercraft & trips overseas & all the other things that I'm NOT cheap & stingy about that my $350k a year income offers the average Ukrainian girl one hell of a lifestyle upgrade.

But, no Pitbull, you have convinced me that Ukrainian women are shallow gold diggers So I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to treat them exactly how you describe them. Now I see the Ukraine for what it is, an entire country of women waiting to spread their legs for you. All it takes is interesting & charming conversation,  some nice dinners, wine, a few moderate gifts, show her pictures of the 4000 sq/ft house, the boat, the family cabin, tell her you love her & want to marry her, and then after the sex, dump her. Pitbull thank you for helping me understand that I don't want to marry a Ukrainian girl, its so much better to use the place as an adult playground.

Oh the verbosity!

Take a chill pill, redking. Both pitbull and Boethius are understandably a bit jaded when they read posts that have the appearance of past usual suspects' posts that had cruised these halls before. And I gotta tell you, there had been losers that sang the same general tunes you had (though I'm not saying you're a loser).

While I won't submit any natural gender defenses on their part, they still have the same spidey mechanism on guard, as after all, women involved in this venture hail from the same region they do.

Heck, sometimes I fall into defending what I deem pretty wacko posts directed at my country or culture. Or when obvious social misfits spew stupid testimonies declaring that they're looking for wives in FSU because all American women are fat, career-oriented, yada, yada, yada...instead of doing some introspection and improving themselves (or attitudes) to enhance their social chances and success.

Believe me, they litter these halls...

[JayH]

GQ-- the voice of reason!

I better read that again !!

[redking11]

"FSU women adhere to this rule much more than AW. After all they are not spoiled by feminism and all this "men and women are equal " BS and and see their youth and beauty as the most valuable attribute, just like a "traditional" woman is supposed to."

"Well just like you these women want the biggest bang for their buck (as in the most well-off man who is not greedy and willing to spoil a trophy wife)"

GQ, I'm going to have a hard time chilling out, I'm just so excited. Pitbull has revealed something beyond my wildest dreams. A whole country or countries of shallow gold diggers willing to roll in the sac in the hopes of a life of pampering.

Well guess what I have the funds needed to wine, dine and impress these shallow gold diggers and get them to put out. I think I will focus on singles mothers int heir late 20's!

Thank you Pitbull!

[wallm]

Billy, what is wrong with walmart? I shop there plenty and at Norsdstrom. Should I run my shopping habits by the ladies I am meeting next two weeks just to see their reaction?

[redking11]

I'll tell the ladies that Once we are married their children will go to private school with my daughter and that I'll pay to send their kid to college. What do you think? Will that help drop the panties?

[Gator]

I'll tell the ladies that Once we are married their children will go to private school with my daughter and that I'll pay to send their kid to college. What do you think? Will that help drop the panties?

Too much talking.   You will get more action just by licking your eyebrows. 

[pitbull]

Pitbull you make some very valuable points & I really am asking myself why I would consider pursuing a FSUW. Apparently they are impossible please unless you are a multi-millionaire willing & able to spend tens of thousands of dollars every year on design clothes & shopping trips to Milan, & don't forget the yacht. No self-respecting Ukrainian girl is going to look at you unless you have a yacht on the Mediterranean. I was actually stupid enough to think that Ukrainian women were interested in leaving their country because they lacked financial opportunities & security (it's not like Ukraine has the lowest or one of the lowest GDP's in Europe). Apparently I was very confused & life there is rich & prosperous.

So because I cannot afford a rich spoiled Ukrainian girl ,I will look for a poor American girl that will be satisfied with ski trips to Purgatory Mountain Resort near Durango, CO, & the houseboat time share on Lake Powell, fishing trips to Alaska & trips to Vegas. Blues and Brews fest in Telluride just isn't good enough for a Ukrainian woman but I know a few nice American girls that think blues music & craft beer make for a good time. I can't afford a lamborgini to keep a Ukrainian happy but that's ok because I know a couple of American country girls that think going 4 wheeling in my cj8 is THE definition of a good time. I guess next time I want to do something like hike Machu Picchu, I'll have to find an American girl because Ukrainian women only like places like Venice or Madrid. And that trip to the Caribbean two years ago? Well, Thank God I wasn't stupid enough to ask a Ukrainian to go with me, she would have been so insulted! After all its not the French Riviera. So Pitbull you made your point. I'm just too poor & cheap to get or keep a Ukrainian woman. 

Let's look at your other point that you made so well. Ukrainian women view their beauty as their & I quote "most valuable attribute". Point made! Ukrainian women are shallow! I'll take your word for it & let's not forget, & I quote again "these women want the biggest bang for their buck (as in the most well-off man who is not greedy and willing to spoil a trophy wife)" Okay, so Ukrainian women treat the institution of marriage as a form of prostitution, so they are in a way you could say "monogamous whores". Hey don't be insulted by the term, I am the first to admit that monogamous prostitution is far better than traditional whoring, much safer, & much more respectable. Once again I'll take your word for it, that FSUW are like this.

Let's follow your view of marriage & women to its logical conclusion. If marriage is a business deal & women are commodities whose value is based on their beauty then, they are like cars that lose value with each passing year & each new wrinkle.  I'm not a financial genius but even I can see that if you view women & marriage in a strictly monetary light, this is one case where you are probably better off renting than buying.

Pitbull, you & others make a big deal out of age. 10 years isn't uncommon here in the US, my parents were 9 years apart. I know several couples that are 10 years apart. I  would have no problem if my daughter married a guy 10 years older than her if she loved him, but I sure as hell hope that I raise her to be better than a quasi-whore that marries for money because she is too scared or lazy to make her own way in the world or is unwilling to struggle a little in life. You are telling me Ukrainian women are lazy, scared girls that sell their bodies so they don't have to work or be poor. No, that's not what you said? But you said they marry to get the biggest bang for their buck didnt you? I know it's not true, I have read of lots of FSUW that get jobs once here. I also know that between skiing trips & lake trips with a houseboat & Mastercraft & trips overseas & all the other things that I'm NOT cheap & stingy about that my $350k a year income offers the average Ukrainian girl one hell of a lifestyle upgrade.

But, no Pitbull, you have convinced me that Ukrainian women are shallow gold diggers So I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to treat them exactly how you describe them. Now I see the Ukraine for what it is, an entire country of women waiting to spread their legs for you. All it takes is interesting & charming conversation,  some nice dinners, wine, a few moderate gifts, show her pictures of the 4000 sq/ft house, the boat, the family cabin, tell her you love her & want to marry her, and then after the sex, dump her. Pitbull thank you for helping me understand that I don't want to marry a Ukrainian girl, its so much better to use the place as an adult playground.

Well, you approach this in a completely shallow and transnational way looking to procure the hottest youngest piece of ass and spend waaay less than you would have to on an analogous quality girl in the US. You are a shallow MOB-ster and thus you will attract the same in FSU.


As to using the FSU women - go try. These women will chew you up and spit you out and you won't even understand what hit you 

[onlyFSU4me]

Goodness man, now I'm worried about your powers of observation

A couple of posts from RK was all it took ..

 Please excuse me for not knowing I had to go look at every post the OP ever posted to know that someone who mentioned something in THIS thread pertained to a prior thread. Unlike some of the people here, I do not follow every conversation here every day and have every thread anyone here started memorized. Sheesh!   

[pitbull]

GQ, I'm going to have a hard time chilling out, I'm just so excited. Pitbull has revealed something beyond my wildest dreams. A whole country or countries of shallow gold diggers willing to roll in the sac in the hopes of a life of pampering.

Well guess what I have the funds needed to wine, dine and impress these shallow gold diggers and get them to put out. I think I will focus on singles mothers int heir late 20's!

Thank you Pitbull!

Oh yes, sweetie - do not forget to have your daughter read your posts and learn exactly how her daddy treats women. She will learn first hand what an upstanding man and what a great role model for little girls her daddy is 

[Trenchcoat]

Well guess what I have the funds needed to wine, dine and impress these shallow gold diggers and get them to put out. I think I will focus on singles mothers int heir late 20's!

That will be like a fiver then for the both of you to wine & dine in the Ukraine, dollars or sterling, unbelievably cheap and great value for money. When Treadmill Dude was knocking around this forum a few months back he had a real beaf over young mums not being desperate. I disagreed and still do, sure not all are but many perhaps most will be. The system of social security is poor in the Ukraine, if the guy has buggered off, or the girl does not know who he is then she is likely in dire straights, out in the Ukraine there is abject poverty, particularly for single mums, Russia somewhat also.

I saw a girl's profile on EM the other day, pretty little thing, only 20 and just had a baby a few months ago, living out in the middle of nowhere. Think she was looking for guys up to the age of 40 and didn't look like she had a job. To me it had, 'I'm desperate to find a man to get me out of this desperate plight some guy has got me into' written all over it. That said remember the time spent picking up these girls to use for a quickie could be time spent finding the right permanent girl for you. Same goes for FSW scammers who waste time scamming men they are not interested in instead of being with one they want to be with.

I tend to agree with pitbull that with many FSW you are more likely to be had, they tend to be very canny. 

[tfcrew]

Thank you for the info, I'll look into the why and see if there is a way around it.

"A way around it"
Ah the tone of insincerity bled through there.
You can try................................

The Form 1864, Affidavit of Support is a legally binding contract in which the family sponsor commits to providing financial support to the foreign relative beneficiary. This contract is enforceable for a considerable period of time and does not end by the termination of the family relationship, or by a divorce. The Affidavit of Support can only be terminated once the sponsored immigrant naturalizes or when he or she has worked or can be credited with 40 qualifying quarters of work as defined by the Social Security Act. The contractual obligation also ends if the sponsored immigrant dies or is no longer a lawful permanent resident and has departed the U.S.

I guess you could tell them you refuse to sign it