The Struggle For Ukraine

[krimster2]

anything?
like RWD servers getting exhausted from overuse?
we mist be up to 1 post per week by now...


hey Iran, guess who 'fixed' the helicopter???
hehe, it was 'my people'
they don't need 300 rockets and drones
when they can replace one small component in the control box instead...

[Trenchcoat]

Seems the man was in for a rather hard landing lol.

I kind of guessed it wasn't due to the weather storm but a convenient cover for it.

[krimster2]

not the first aircraft 'they' brought down through 'clever' means
the mullahs are gonna be REALLY upset over this one, cuz they'll have to mute their response
Mossad is very subtle compared to Iran
they killed terrorists in Dubai by strangling them in their hotel rooms at night
all the mossad agents had fake USA passports they copy from tourists visiting Israel
they are the world's best killers
the phrase 'cloak and dagger' is an historic reference to Jewish assissins from Roman times
experience!!!

[Admin]

not the first aircraft 'they' brought down through 'clever' means
the mullahs are gonna be REALLY upset over this one, cuz they'll have to mute their response
Mossad is very subtle compared to Iran
they killed terrorists in Dubai by strangling them in their hotel rooms at night
all the mossad agents had fake USA passports they copy from tourists visiting Israel
they are the world's best killers
the phrase 'cloak and dagger' is an historic reference to Jewish assissins from Roman times
experience!!!

I was impressed with your correct (and rare) usage of "an historic reference" (vice the too common and incorrect 'a historic reference') only to be disappointed in your misspelling of assassin.

You are correct with your occasional critique of RWD's low traffic levels. Inputs for improvement are welcome - either by PM or in the 'RWD Site Feedback' section ... http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?board=26.0.

[krimster2]

ha!!!
I am in the  spelling resistance
and you fell for my carefully laid spelling NAZI trap!!!!!

ironically, the word assassin is derived from 'hashish'
which is the reason why I can't even spell DAWG at the moment
I am an authentic assassin....

the problem is:
you put too many constraints on content which causes an inhibitory effect
combined with the mission of this board losing relevance as time goes on

it means a 'new mission'...

one idea, and you wouldn't even have to change URL domain of this board...

R  Russian
W War
D  Discussion

Putin on the Fritz!!

beyond the content, there are other issues:

the problem with this 'older' style of web presentation methodology
is that they've been eclipsed by 'social media' like facebook, twitter, etc
most people will go there

maybe RWD should change to being on Twitter (yes, I know it's "X", and elon musk sucks)

[Trenchcoat]

the problem is:
you put too many constraints on content which causes an inhibitory effect
combined with the mission of this board losing relevance as time goes on

it means a 'new mission'...

one idea, and you wouldn't even have to change URL domain of this board...

R  Russian
W War
D  Discussion

Putin on the Fritz!!

beyond the content, there are other issues:

the problem with this 'older' style of web presentation methodology
is that they've been eclipsed by 'social media' like facebook, twitter, etc
most people will go there

maybe RWD should change to being on Twitter (yes, I know it's "X", and elon musk sucks)

I have been thinking the same recently. I think a good way to go about it is keep this Website BUT launch a RWD on Twitter as well! That way there can be a link to this website forum for more in-depth talk on the subject.

The problem Twitter has is that it isn't as well developed as this website for sections, topics, threads, etc. so you're not going to be able to get as much depth there without it becoming a jumble and people not knowing what's where.

What Twitter does have going for it is 'traffic' many people frequent twitter, likely many more than Google these days. So it's a great place to pick up people who are interested in Russia/Ukraine at the moment who don't know this site even exists! The Russia/Ukraine situation is a big topic on Twitter at the moment and RWD is missing out.

It could really help with a rebirth of RWD without doing much at all. A RWD twitter group with familiar logo and top picture would be easy to set up within moments. Plus the best thing is that it's free! What could be better it being both quick to do and free. Then just link to here at the top of the page details in Twitter and voilà the peeps will probably come here to check this place out too

[Trenchcoat]

Worth mentioning also if not already aware it's possible to have your own personal twitter page and have an additional page for a subject interest such as this. So Dan could add it to his existing Twitter account (if he has one yet) and flick back and forth between the two as he wishes.

[ML]

I was impressed with your correct (and rare) usage of "an historic reference" (vice the too common and incorrect 'a historic reference') . . .

You are both wrong  !!

You should use “an” before a word beginning with an “h” only if the “h” is not pronounced: “an honest effort”  but  “a historic event."

This is the standard rule that calls for "an" before vowel sounding beginnings and "a" before consonant sounding beginnings.

[ML]

Twitter is only for imbeciles.

I have no Twitter account (and never will) but I followed links to there a couple of times.

Short incomplete sentences and ideas that seem like writings of someone less than 10 years old.

[Trenchcoat]

Twitter is only for imbeciles.

I have no Twitter account (and never will) but I followed links to there a couple of times.

Short incomplete sentences and ideas that seem like writings of someone less than 10 years old.

Twitter does have the downside of being limited to a number of characters per reply so posters like me can't write long rambling replies like I like too

It's another reason why to keep the Forum here to run alongside. I don't think it's good as a replacement forum because you don't get nearly the same. It's is as you point out stunted and because you're so heavily limited on wordage on it, too much I think and that is too it's detriment. I think it's worth a shot in terms of seeing if the traffic to this site can be improved. Whether it turns out to be the traffic wanted may be another matter but it's free and easy to find out.

[Trenchcoat]

This is an article I was saw just the other day that I think is relevant to our discussion here:

http://unherd.com/newsroom/google-declares-the-end-of-the-world-wide-web/

Shocking and surprising I know but most likely true. I still find Google and the World Wide Web (i.e webpages) most useful, but thd younger generation do seem to go more off social media apps and just search for stuff there. Facebook for example has most company pages as again they are free and easy to create I believe. That shaves many hours off producing a professional looking webpage for it's users and is free to do and maintain.

The girl I am dating is like that as from the younger generation. I don't get the impression that she uses Google much if anything at all. Mark Zuckerberg has taken over the internet lol. It's a great shame as there can be a lot more info on the World Wide Web that she misses. I prefer webpages to social media apps but I do use twitter to keep up to date with stuff as it helps to touch base with what's going on out there particularly with like minded people.

Is there a 'dumbing down' of the internet on social media, I think so but it's part of people wanting answers quicker and quicker as the modern age speeds up ever faster and if course that is to the detriment of depth of knowledge as a result, you don't get nought for nought. Nonetheless, it has it's place and is useful in some ways and helps to explain why traffic has been falling off here, not just here but webpages in general it seems.

[Trenchcoat]

I think some good points were also raised here in the thread I created not so long ago about the forum issues with lack of involvement:

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=25800.0

I think it was Davo in that thread if I remember rightly that made a good point in that a lot of guys these days don't want to advertise much on their relationship online in an open forum that in theory can be viewed by anyone. It could be quite obvious to those that know that person to link them if they gave much in the way off details at all on their relationships. So it can make it kind of awkward gif the guys here to discuss relationships on what is a relationships forum.

In the not so distant past the World Wide Web wasn't in reality quite World Wide for most in practice but only in theory. Most of the World Wide Web was segregated by language barriers into the country areas where that language existed and anyone else with a very good grasp of that language. The knowledge of websites in that language and it's website address etc was needed. Then came along Google with automatic translate of websites and so the barriers dropped and many, many more people from other cultures, Slavic, etc could get to and read western websites far more easily. That of course isn't so reassuring a prospect for most male forum users here. I would venture that guys willing to post much about their relationships and activities declined rapidly after that.

Fortunately as Krim points out popularity in the World Wide Web has dropped off since then especially among the younger generation and even older generations in favour of Social Media Apps. That kind of makes this Forum site an almost clandestine presence with few knowing of its existence. However the ease of access for any looking doesn't exactly imbue confidence in being able to partake in relationship discussion here like people used too.

Potentially stuff may change a little in a year or so time if the Russian War comes to an end one way or another, interest in relationships might pick up again out in the FSU.

I think there is another possibility other than Russians using Novichok or WMD to end the war. I think there may be the possibility of the war continuing for a long period of time but in a far less active stalemate kind of situation. A lot like how the situation was between 2014 to 2022, a war ongoing, both sides entrenched but neither being able to break through or having the resources to do so. If you think about it Russia is going to run low on Armaments & Money from 2025 onwards. The West is going to run low on Money with which to support the Ukrainian war effort about the same sort of time most likely.

So instead of both sides, Russia & Ukraine being able to throw vast amounts of Armaments and Money in ferious warfare both will slow down to a soberingly slow not much happening in comparison sort of situation and just be stuck that way likely for years and years. Peace may only come when Putler passes in with old age or gets retired off. A new regime/clan in Russia could likely find it more beneficial in ending the war in Ukraine to preserve their place in power. And then everything moves on as it does.

[krimster2]

Putin has to balance RISKS v REWARDS
it's always a quantitative question in a negative sum game

if he lowers the intensity of the war to reduce losses, he gets a lower gain in return...
however, some of his risks are "fixed costs" like sanctions
and won't go away, if he stops fighting
so he'd have to accept these losses without any means to achieve positive gains

playin this way is NOT a winning strategy
I know it's hard to tell, but Putin REALLY IS actually TRYING to win

the prophetic writing of George Orwell, tells ya pretty much EVERYTHING you need to know about Putin's Russia...
Prigozhin echoed the observation Orwell made, about war being a tool to preserve the rigid top-down social hierarchy in a totalitarian society
so infinite war is a NECESSITY to maintain his rule
but it has to be a WINNING War

otherwise the costs of a losing war will  jeopardize the social hierarchy, which is the thing that Russia's dick taters always feared would be their downfall
a revolt of the masses due to the costs of the war, like in 1917

my view is that either next summer, or the one after that
the DPR will create a Reichstag fire, with some toxic 'industrial chemicals"that kills a lot of people and blame it on Ukraine
their equivalent of bombing apartments in Ryazan

then DPR rebels will "retaliate" against Ukrainian forces with locally made rebel Novichok
Russia just watches at this point
if the WEST retaliates against the DPR for using Novichok on their own territory against Ukraine, then the DPR attacks a large Ukrainian city with Novichok in retaliation
after that, once it's clear, that there isn't gonna be any REAL MILITARY response to the DPR, out of fear of their retaliation on Ukrainian civilians

then and only then does the Russian MOD step in and 'kick it up a notch" and deploy a few hundred tons of Novichok-A236 in a Blitzkrieg type of attack...

people in the WEST, DO NOT EVEN KNOW how to fight a war anymore, let alone how to win one...
it's like the whole freakin culture is some kinda "humane society" and war is not healthy for children and other living things
this kinda pacifist non-sense is just gonna get ya'll killed one day

yur enemies have NO FEAR of pacifists, they consider them cowards
your own people will be against any kind of military action against Russia
thus, your enemies will use yur own democratic ideals against you, the way they are against Israel

and it's one of the many reasons yur ALL gonna lose against a small little bully like Putin, who is struggling bullying someone even weaker
cuz yur leaders are afraid of the collapse of yur own social hierarchy, so your gonna avoid taking actions that bring risks to it
YES! Mr Chamberlain, there will be PEACE in our time!!!

now ya'll probably think that what I'm writing here is really "far-fetched"
no it ain't

not when ya consider, Putin got the Crimean Mafiya to take over the Crimean Parliment
and vote to secceed from Ukraine, and it worked

not to mention Putin was the one who tipped the scales in 2016 in Trump's favor
and it worked

I could go on and on, but I'm sure ya'll get my point

the things that Putin's "good at" vrs the things he ain't
I think he already realizes all this
and is gonna work on gettin his groove back

Putin's iron curtain, reduces the effects of sanctions, by turning Russia into a "closed system" with a reduced dependency on foreign trade
as well as Russia replacing consumerism with militarism, reduces consumer demand for western goods as well

when the debt bombs blow up in the USA in the next decade....
Russia will be unaffected, except for inflation caused by switching all finance to rubles


Putin would be in line to win the BIG game
if he did just one thing, that Russians PREVIOUSLY did once before
can you guess what it is?


Ptuin has time to carefully conceal his Novichok operation from the west
the intelligence community knew when he was going to invade
Novichok needs to be a COMPLETE SURPRIZE!!! and over and done with in a week or so ending with Putin's Triumphant entry into Kyiv which of course is gonna be spelled Kiev!!!

this will be a MUCH more dangerous Putin
then if he took Ukraine in 3 days with no resistance

the West created this Putin, the same way the West created Osama Bin Ladin in the Afghan war
and it'll have the same results

[Trenchcoat]

Yeah but old Putler hasn't got much time left, he's an old man now. Who can say how many days, months or years he has left on this planet before old age or health ailments finish him off. Even aside from that as he ages he's less likely to be up to being in charge right at the top, at some point he'll probably have to step aside or be forced too. Especially if others around him see him as weak and fancy stepping into his shoes.

My thoughts are that Putler knows he's only got so long one way or another and the war in part is just to satisfy his fellow Oligarchs I the mean time so they don't come at him. My guess is he would rather buy himself the few extra years than have them come at him and finish him off earlier. For Putler with not so many years left in the clock whatever happens in the war ain't going to matter to him one way or another as he's not going to be around in the long term either way.

[krimster2]

Putin's already wasted over 2 yrs
if Putin can make Trump President again in November, then he has a much shorter path to victory, and doesn't need Novichok
so he plots and waits....
if Biden wins,
then he has to at least wait until next summer (Novichok needs warm weather)

so the timeline isn't long term, it's 1-2 more years for this to happen

should Putin meet Stalin's fate, then the FSB will decide who the next president will be...
it may be someone worst than Putin
Putin's only skill is spycraft
he does poorly at everything else
and he's the biggest kleptocrat

when Putin is replaced, it'll be by a non kleptocrat
which will change EVERYTHING

the old Kleptocrats are all holdovers from Yeltsin
they are gonna be an endangered species
watch the movie "Death of Stalin"
when Putin dies, the kleptocrats get purged

when the west applied "anti-biotics" to Putin, they didn't use enuff
what it did was to turn Putin into a more resistant pathogen
who is more dangerous now then he was before the war and harder to stop

Putin has his own anti-biotics to keep the Ruusian population's obedience
medications that the west doesn't have, and they're gonna need it to fight the socio-economic chaos of the '30s, which will be BIGGER than anything we've seen before

so a war of attrition will always favor Dr Putin vrs an unhealthy, declining WEST that will financially implode 10 yr from now
cuz the oligarch's privitizied profits for themselves while transferring costs to the public debt with interest that they pay to themselves as well
and the debt reaches a "critical mass" and blows up EVERYTHING!

yet, all the oligarchs are, are just middlemen...
owners with rent seeking behavior who suck down all the wealth that workers create and then hand the workers the bills to pay

Russia will be the first to get rid of the kleptocrats (again)
and either we get rid of them as well, or they will enslave the rest of us (this is what the oligarch's in the US are planning)
kill the social safety net, all you retirees wanna eat, then ya better come to work for Walmart

Putin has been using western kleptocrats the whole time to fight the west, they're his allies

this is why the 'fake war on woke' is being fought
while yur distracted with gay cowboys being pushed by oligarch owned media
you remain blind to how the people pushing gay cowboy alarmism are all robbing you
and if you even DARE to think this way, yur a COMMIE!!!
and yur told every day, how BAD communism is

in reality, whatcha are is a bunch of easily fooled dumb phuques,
lemmings marching towards the cliff

[Trenchcoat]

Putin's already wasted over 2 yrs
if Putin can make Trump President again in November, then he has a much shorter path to victory, and doesn't need Novichok
so he plots and waits....
if Biden wins,
then he has to at least wait until next summer (Novichok needs warm weather)

Yeah but Trump won't get in with his feet under the table until late January/early February. By then our beloved Putler will likely be fielding army reminiscent of a WWII Soviet Army re-enactment festival.

I would say likely by then it's going to be too late for Putler his Army is just going to be too clapped out with too little conventional military power and time to influence matters on the ground in his favour. By then even if the US stops providing and further funds Ukraine will likely still have enough to hold off a dwindling Russian Army that's in too poor a state to mount credible offensives. Ukraine will still have left over whatever they get from the US, it will have stuff it's now producing itself and if will have stuff from the UK/EU.

I still think that whoever is in power in the West it's mostly about matching the Russians pound for pound. I believe Western leaders and Militaries have decided that they don't want to enrage Putler by over supplying Ukraine so Russia starts to fall back more as when Putler is checked he will go for Checkmate. They equally don't want Ukraine to falter too badly, they instead want Ukraine to run down the threat from Russia for them. Russia has always been seen as a threat that gets in the way and is a nuisance to the West, even a thorn in its side. They want that threat gone. Once the old Soviet Army is gond that has been built up over decades Putler is in a much less powerful position. However, the West won't want to finish off his Army completely, that will again push him to a checked and Checkmate position. Instead I believe they will cut back on their support for Ukraine as Russia's Army falters. They probably won't have the money either, I believe you are correct in that. They will be happy to see the war descend back into a stalemate that existed 2014 - 2022.

Russia for it's part will be grateful that it's decrepit army won't be up against a Ukrainian Army thatvis armed to the teeth and that it's army doesn't have the ability to move forward either. So the war will go into a long term slow nothing much happening situation. Some way along the way most likely post Putler the new lot coming into power will see it advantageous to be done with it so they can go more about securing power and riches for themselves in Russia so far as that goes, depends who gets into power after Putler of course.

[krimster2]

Russia has an inexhaustible supply of stoopid peasants, rubles and 50 year old junk military hardware (even sharp sticks will suffice)
these are the only ingredients needed to continue the war

the only brakes to stop the war, are the Russian people, who are currently more afraid of Putin than they are of Ukraine
and their media and education keep 'em too ignorant to realize that it's NOT Ukraine and the West causing them to be killed and maimied by the hundreds of thousands, IT'S PUTIN!!!
Hitler's opinion of Russian peasants and Putin's are more or less the same, "a people born for the yoke" a la Volga Boat Men

[Grumpy]

Equipment from parade earlier this month spotted on way to  Ukraine.
MUGA  Make Ukraine Great Again

[Trenchcoat]

That was a good video post Grumpy, I watch the video and the guy doing it had a good take on the situation by the looks of it. He also drew attention to Russia's Soviet Arsenal running out in about a year's time if that now.

I saw news headlines on Yahoo that Putler was up for peace now perhaps he's concerned about the Russian disarmament programme unfolding before his eyes. Looks like he wants to keep hold of the territory he's taken. I don't see the Ukrainians willing to agree to that, wishful thinking on his part I think.

Here's a link for Krim to take a peek at. I saw it on Twitter (X) and if looks like the type of stuff he likes to talk about:

http://twitter.com/GBNAmerica/status/1794065830897995819?t=d231zlKTj2v264x4rtNAlQ&s=19

[krimster2]

Banon belongs in jail...

people lie
numbers don't

[Trenchcoat]

Banon belongs in jail...

people lie
numbers don't

The funding of the whole Trump Wall scam that he pulled if I vaguely remember correctly. I didn't read deep into it but apparently he set up a fund to fund some of the wall then ran off with the money.

[Trenchcoat]

Ukraine looks to be threatened by Russia's forces on its northern border:

http://www.euronews.com/2024/05/26/ukraine-war-zelenskyy-warns-of-russian-advances-kharkiv-strike-death-toll-rises-peace-summ

Apart from troops stationed on its northern border Ukraine doesn't currently have any troops in reserve. This is a precarious situation for Ukraine to be in as although Ukraine is holding Russian troops back at present were Russian troops to break through anywhere Ukraine would be screwed.

That's a military flaw Ukraine needs to urgently rectify by bringing up more troops and quickly. If it doesn't it's leaving itself open for a easy defeat where it needn't suffer one in the next few days to weeks.

Belarus will need watching too. Now that they have finished installing Russian Nukes on its soul it leaves Belarus more capable of joining the attack. That this has been completed at this time may be no coincidence. A joint Belarusian & Russian attack on Ukraine's northern border could be difficult for Ukraine to answer to even with dug in fortifications. Ukraine will need to boost it's number of soldiers significantly so not to be caught napping and be agile on its feet to responding to such threats. Belarusian forces are now better equipped and trained than in previous years so they could be a significant threat on the battlefield.

[krimster2]

Ukraine's recent mobilization effort got a million ukrainians to "sign-up" willingly or not...
so they have man-power
what they don't have is enuff weapons...
cuz that's not under their control

that's the achilles heel of Ukraine
and where Putin will focus his efforts now in the short term
while resurrecting the Soviet Russian military industrial complex for the long term

already a bolshoi OKTOBER SURPRIZE is underway for the USA
this is Putin's "Pet Project"
he's transporting highly trained Islamic terrorists to Mexico so they can cross the border
and hehe, the terrorists are complaining about lack of water there
ain't 'signal intelligence' a hoot!!!

there are two groups,
the first group is the "probing" group
the second group are the "specialists"
their first mission is to TOTALLY DISRUPT the election in Nov
second mission is the American military-industrial complex

Putin knows how to leverage his oppertunism

asymmetrical hybrid warfare
first acts of physical sabotage already done in europe and the USA
America's next 9-11 will start with a 10-
the countdown has started...
you won't be able to blame it on Russians
cuz they'll all be ARABS
and yur gonna blame it on.....BIDEN!!!!!
(Well, that's Putin's Plan)

if trump gets convicted in NYC in the next few weeks, his odds of winning the presidency drops to nearly ZERO
and the odds of him grifting and scamming the republican party and his base climbs to 100%
and the odds of this leading to the decline of the republican party climbs to 100%

Trump is the silver lining in the dark republican cloud
Trump is the redneck playing with a loaded gun who shoots himself in the foot
Trump will take down Trump and everything connected to Trump...in just a matter of a few more months....
watch and learn...

and yes, this IS ALL connected to Russia, always has been, from DAY ONE!!

[Trenchcoat]

if trump gets convicted in NYC in the next few weeks, his odds of winning the presidency drops to nearly ZERO

Well your favourite topic is up here Krim,

Trump!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Looks like he's been found guilty! on 34 charges.

I would guess with being found guilty on that many charges he will be going to jail????

If he goes to jail I guess that's him out of the US Presidential Election race.

And Ukraine Lol.


Seriously, well tell us how Trump being found guilty affects Ukraine now?

[krimster2]

it means a future Trump Presidency isn't gonna happen
between now and November - the only thing Trump does is drain money from the republican party...

Putin's only hope is Novichok