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Offline Boethius

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Re: The visit one VO vs visit many VM debate thread
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2019, 12:41:30 PM »
Correct me if I am mistaken, Bill, but I thought that you met Angel Eyes on a VO trip that didn't work out, i.e., you went to visit a woman, and she and you didn't hit it off.  So, you asked other women out for coffee.


If my recollection is accurate, your visit was not a VM, it's just that you regrouped rather than mope around or try to create a relationship where one would not arise.


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Re: The visit one VO vs visit many VM debate thread
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2019, 01:19:31 PM »
Correct me if I am mistaken, Bill, but I thought that you met Angel Eyes on a VO trip that didn't work out, i.e., you went to visit a woman, and she and you didn't hit it off.  So, you asked other women out for coffee.

If my recollection is accurate, your visit was not a VM, it's just that you regrouped rather than mope around or try to create a relationship where one would not arise.

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You are mostly correct, the difference is just semantics. When first I traveled
to Voronezh it was to meet a different woman. It didn't work out so it turned
into a VM trip or my backup plan became a VM however you want to call it
I started seeing other girls that I had ZERO contact with previously. I had
4 or 5 dates before I found Angel Eyes. Once I met her, I cancelled a date
and pursued her exclusively.

I also went to Georgia to meet a girl on a VO trip. It didn't work out and I
tried to meet other girls in Georgia. I also made a VO trip to St Pete, it
didn't work out with the girl so I scrambled around finding other girls to
date. These dates were just a meeting for coffee and tea, occasionally
for lunch.

I made two VM trips to Kiev.

I made a VO trips to Odessa, Lugansk and Dnepropetrovsk where it fell
apart after the trip. I made VO trips to St Pete, Tblisi and Voronezh which
turned into VM. I made a trip to Portland Oregon to meet a girl who has a
tourist visa, but it didn't work out.

I do recommend VM as a backup plan, otherwise I recommend men to
do what fits their personality, goals and situations. I especially tell men
not to use VO tactics to visit many.

You can read a dozen trip reports where men write extensively to girls
and then want to meet several of them. I think that is a huge mistake
and that's the method that p!ss off FSUW.

Any good girl who you are communicating with extensively will want
to meet you at the airport. Obviously if you are meeting several girls
then you can't meet all of them at the airport. Now you have to do a
bunch of crap that is NOT conducive to building a relationship with an
FSUW. FSUW will screw with you and your time. Go read all the trip
reports where they do exactly that.

If you want to visit many you don't do that. It's far better to write nobody
until the week before the trip. Then ask them to meet you for tea. That's
my opinion of the way to visit many. You are actually meeting one girl,
and then determining what happens with that girl before meeting another.
You NEVER date a girl who you don't think is the ONE twice. You need to
either pursue her or dump her.

FSUW don't have a problem with this. I was meeting them. If we clicked 
then I would pursue them exclusively. If it didn't then I wish them success
and send them on their way.

If you aren't decisive then you can't do this. You can't go back and forth,
don't recycle girls. Either she is the girl or she's not. If you can't tell then
she's not.

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: The visit one VO vs visit many VM debate thread
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2019, 02:55:39 PM »
I also went to Georgia to meet a girl on a VO trip. It didn't work out and I
tried to meet other girls in Georgia. I also made a VO trip to St Pete, it
didn't work out with the girl so I scrambled around finding other girls to
date.
These dates were just a meeting for coffee and tea, occasionally
for lunch.

I remember that. :devil:

Maybe my memory is a bit cloudy these days, but I thought it was far more than mere coffee, tea or an occasional lunch.

I think it involved 'black bars' and such...no? Wasn't that the genesis of the virtual 'war of Russian poison roses'?
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The visit one VO vs visit many VM debate thread
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2019, 12:29:34 AM »
I remember that. :devil:

Maybe my memory is a bit cloudy these days, but I thought it was far more than mere coffee, tea or an occasional lunch.

I think it involved 'black bars' and such...no? Wasn't that the genesis of the virtual 'war of Russian poison roses'?

Your memory is mostly correct. I got on a scammer/sex tourist list because I posted
photos with the girls eyes blocked out. I deleted the photos later but then I was
designated as a lesser bad man because I wrote a trip report that they didn't like.

People who are interested can read the report here (Eventually found my dreamgirl)
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=3432.0
« Last Edit: December 14, 2019, 12:31:44 AM by 2tallbill »
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: The visit one VO vs visit many VM debate thread
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2019, 07:05:31 AM »
Your memory is mostly correct. I got on a scammer/sex tourist list because I posted
photos with the girls eyes blocked out. I deleted the photos later but then I was
designated as a lesser bad man because I wrote a trip report that they didn't like.

People who are interested can read the report here (Eventually found my dreamgirl)
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=3432.0

I remember that and the invasion of the anti-date posters some of which still post here

 

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