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Let's deal with you in reverse order


Though Moby everything you post is doubtable.

Sadly, though given every opportunity - you have singularly failed to back that 'assertion' up ....  Examples being your financially ludicrous live beaming of BBC content in the late seventies and your telling me that events in my personal life from thirty years ago hadn't occurred :)))

That you 'expand' on your road trip it is indeed a reasonable visit, in fact possibly enjoyable. Initially it sounded in the context of those who poisoned the Skripals as a one day thing that you did.

WE were coming and going by a car - not public transport and the weather was clement ...  Do TRY to keep up ... 

In the context of our respective govts - who no doubt have seen even more evidence - it seems you are more desperate to  'put one over' on me   :D


Sadly, you don't enjoy the luxury of my ripostes never appearing - on here - so your daft 'assertions' about my past exploits from 30 years ago and your clueless knowledge of Satellite TV up linking costs from the late seventies and eighties ( prohibitively expensive - save for major sporting events )  don't go unanswered .... :popcorn:







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As is often the case with Moby he has cocked up the quotes ~ okay I have done it as well, but usually I catch them and correct them.

But the very posts above points out what a little pathetic human you are. Your exploits from a few years back are revealing enough into to your character (or lack there of). Moby, why not just stay with you vision and opinion of the facts instead of debating everything? It is tiresome. Just so you understand that your presence elsewhere is because of a number of members myself included lobbied to allow you to post. Yes with out doubt you are moderated because basically you're a tiresome arguementive fish mongers wife.
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As is often the case with Moby he has cocked up the quotes ~ okay I have done it as well, but usually I catch them and correct them.

I have corrected my error ( thank you ) and - as you WELL know - there are other places were I cannot correct [edit out ] errors in coding -or my posts are edited to mean something else - by a third party and 'quoted' - all very former Soviet ;)

But, once again, you are merely deflecting from YOUR - frequent - and unfortunate bad habit of questioning my personal experiences- including those of thirty years ago and more recent...

But the very posts above points out what a little pathetic human you are. Your exploits from a few years back are revealing enough into to your character (or lack there of).


So now, having FAILED on the ' Moby fibbed front' -  and not being gentlemanly enough to simply concede  .... you compound the deflection by doing a Silly BillyB and reminding members of my oft admitted stupidity in responding to a fib posted about me on the net - with a truthful riposte ? 

Look, I'm really sorry to disappoint you - but ex-wife and I get on just fine - she came down to to the Sailing Club yesterday- having called me to ask permission -  with two mutual friends - a BY and UA lady ( she is Russian) - parked her car next to mine and went for a walk around the lakes - before 'supporting' me making a pillock of myself ( being over the line - the Officer of the Day was somewhat slow in flying the flag to denote someone was over - and I was at the far end of the line - having done a port end flyer - lost a minute going back -  hitting a mark -360 penalty -  ) and  recovering to take second in the annual  Bart's Bash race..

So, may be you can deal with YOUR trust issues ( making a pillock of yourself)  and suggesting folks are fibbing - when they aren't ;)








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But, once again, you are merely deflecting from YOUR - frequent - and unfortunate bad habit of questioning my personal experiences- including those of thirty years ago and more recent...


So now, having FAILED on the ' Moby fibbed front' -  and not being gentlemanly enough to simply concede  .... you compound the deflection by doing a Silly BillyB and reminding members of my oft admitted stupidity in responding to a fib posted about me on the net - with a truthful riposte ? 

Look, I'm really sorry to disappoint you - but ex-wife and I get on just fine - she came down to to the Sailing Club yesterday- having called me to ask permission -  with two mutual friends - a BY and UA lady ( she is Russian) - parked her car next to mine and went for a walk around the lakes - before 'supporting' me making a pillock of myself ( being over the line - the Officer of the Day was somewhat slow in flying the flag to denote someone was over - and I was at the far end of the line - having done a port end flyer - lost a minute going back -  hitting a mark -360 penalty -  ) and  recovering to take second in the annual  Bart's Bash race..

So, may be you can deal with YOUR trust issues ( making a pillock of yourself)  and suggesting folks are fibbing - when they aren't ;)

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Av -- Moby fibbing mmmmm hard to believe  from such a genius sailor!

Moby has such a clear recollection of all things past( not!!!) --EXCEPT would you believe is proof ( or even any confirming evidence)that he was in Crimea in Feb 2014  completely escapes him at to where he went and for how long -- BUT -- it suits his attempts at story telling in his haste to try and prove some  point that was not in contention -- and there is more-- Moby was using a nav system that did not exist when he was actually there !!

I raise this here again -- because Moby is so busy stalking AV with nonsensical allegations of nothingness and all from a proven LIAR. :cluebat:

btw  Moby  --  some of us got banned permanently at rua -- and only the super sucks who got invited back actually went! Even then-I can understand why your dribble is edited  over there.
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What incredible work is being done by Bellingcat --in the interests of the truth.
An ongoing Bellingcat investigation conducted jointly with The Insider Russia has confirmed through uncovered passport data that the two Russian nationals identified by UK authorities as prime suspects in the Novichok poisonings on British soil are linked to Russian security services. This finding directly contradicts claims by the Russian president on 12 September 2018, and by the two men in an interview broadcast on RT one day later, that they are civilians who traveled to Salisbury for a tourist getaway.

Skripal Poisoning Suspect’s Passport Data Shows Link to Security Services

Original Russian documents reviewed by Bellingcat and The Insider confirm definitively that the two men were registered in the central Russian resident database under the names Alexander Yevgenievich Petrov and Ruslan Timurovich Boshirov, respectively, and were issued internal passports under these names in 2009. However, no records exist for these two personas prior to 2009. This suggests the two names were likely cover identities for operatives of one of the Russian security services. Crucially, at least one man’s passport files contain various “top-secret” markings, which, according to at least two sources consulted by Bellingcat, are typically reserved for members of secret services or top state operatives.

These findings, along with peculiarities in the two men’s bookings of their flight to London, make Russia’s official statements that Petrov and Boshirov are civilian tourists implausible, and corroborate UK authorities’ claims that they are in fact officers of a Russian security service.


http://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2018/09/14/skripal-poisoning-suspects-passport-data-shows-link-security-services/
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Av -- Moby fibbing mmmmm hard to believe  from such a genius sailor!

Moby has such a clear recollection of all things past( not!!!) --EXCEPT would you believe is proof ( or even any confirming evidence)that he was in Crimea in Feb 2014  completely escapes him at to where he went and for how long -- BUT -- it suits his attempts at story telling in his haste to try and prove some  point that was not in contention -- and there is more-- Moby was using a nav system that did not exist when he was actually there !!

I raise this here again -- because Moby is so busy stalking AV with nonsensical allegations of nothingness and all from a proven LIAR. :cluebat:

Er, AV ( and you ) are accusing me of 'fibbing' and have FAILED to produce a single instance - so WHO's 'stalking' bearing in mind this thread's title and your post ? ...   Don't  worry, JayH - I know you're just hoping to get 'pay back' for all the times I've busted you re fake news from Crimea... ;)


btw  Moby  --  some of us got banned permanently at rua -- and only the super sucks who got invited back actually went! Even then-I can understand why your dribble is edited  over there.

Poor JayH

joins in on the 'Moby's fibbing' and is yet ANOTHER person who tells me where I've been ( or not)  and when  :D

1/ There was nothing untruthful in my statement about when I was last on the peninsula - and I think you're prob upset as it was clearly more recently than you ..given your multiple busted 'copy and pastes'
with 'news' from Crimea that were nonsense - esp. about the Crimea Bridge project


2/ To compound your STUPIDITY -  both GLONASS and GPS have covered Crimea WAY before 2014 and it was mapped quite well, too .

3/ I was not invited back - can you get ANYTHING right ?

Remind us of your practical expertise of  designing and testing such kit, testing various mapping software - negotiating commercial use of same ..  Do you own a biz doing that, too ? ...


MORE than happy for those who are keen to discuss their fantasy visions of "what's Moby done" ( or "not done")  a special thread (?) - but I thought this post was about the Skripal farce ?  :popcorn:







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Moby, You can NOT provide any actual evidence of your event with J. Clarkson, Pas de Calais or A. Robinson, dinner. It is a fib/fantasy until proved otherwise by your self.

I can say I have met the queen of England and Amsterdam in Amsterdam. OK it was little more than a nod and smile. But my youngest daughter presented a bouquet to Quenn Elisabeth. I can back this up with news and reports. You can not provide any such proof.

Why not take a hike to the library and find some proof?
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Moby, You can NOT provide any actual evidence of your event with J. Clarkson, Pas de Calais or A. Robinson, dinner. It is a fib/fantasy until proved otherwise by your self.
 


Moby, You can NOT provide any actual evidence of your
supposed time in Crimea in Feb 2014  !!!!

Not one piece of "evidence" has been offered whatsoever  .

A very clear lie told -- and much attempt to divert from discussion .

Everywhere else you are accused of being a liar-- you spend endless time justifying yourself -- and -- in this very precise case -- all you offer is to try and move away from answering.
You lie as a matter of course - Trump is a liar as a matter of course -- mmmmmm
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Moby, You can NOT provide any actual evidence of your event with J. Clarkson, Pas de Calais or A. Robinson, dinner. It is a fib/fantasy until proved otherwise by your self.

I can say I have met the queen of England and Amsterdam in Amsterdam. OK it was little more than a nod and smile. But my youngest daughter presented a bouquet to Quenn Elisabeth. I can back this up with news and reports. You can not provide any such proof.

Why not take a hike to the library and find some proof?


Av-- I can say a friend of mine "met" Clarkson !

I should add -- if this had escalated my friend would have made mince meat out of Clarkson --  except for the amount of security present in the area.Now that would have been news !

Jeremy Clarkson snaps

Controversial Top Gear host Jeremy Clarkson has been involved in a mobile phone-fuelled stoush at a Melbourne restaurant over the weekend.


http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/jeremy-clarkson-in-strife-over-casino-fight-20110314-1btot.html
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Sadly, you don't enjoy the luxury of my ripostes never appearing - on here - so your daft 'assertions' about my past exploits from 30 years ago

Moby, I suspect there are few who desire to read your 'ripostes' involving figments of your imagination from 30 years ago.
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ex-wife and I get on just fine - she came down to to the Sailing Club yesterday- having called me to ask permission -  with two mutual friends - a BY and UA lady ( she is Russian) - parked her car next to mine and went for a walk around the lakes - before 'supporting' me making a pillock of myself ( being over the line - the Officer of the Day was somewhat slow in flying the flag to denote someone was over - and I was at the far end of the line - having done a port end flyer - lost a minute going back -  hitting a mark -360 penalty -  ) and  recovering to take second in the annual  Bart's Bash race..


Sort of funny to read( not)  in the context of the thread.
I have added a link of interview   -- to a VERY good friend of mine  that may give you a few clues about me !  His older brother ( Bob) is and has been a coach and associated with some of the VERY big names of the tennis world  and it was nothing to see famous faces around the dinner table !


Av -- this link will interest you too !

For Moby -- there are a few tips in here !

 
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Moby, I suspect there are few who desire to read your 'ripostes' involving figments of your imagination from 30 years ago.

I can understand why - seeing - like you - they simply demonstrate what a fool believes to the contrary ....

In the mean time - 'Sir' - I wasn't aware my honest and truthful recollections of factual events would be called into question by a 'doubting Thomas' ..

What sort of strange person tells another they haven't done what they truly have and demands proof 30 years on ?

Hopefully, one of the other Flintstones has photos.. one is now in Toronto, another in Zurich and Lord only knows where Betty lives now ..

IF you ever meet JC - do be sure to ask him if he's ever broken down in a white De Tomaso Pantera and who rescued him.... ?

Or.... you could ask him how he refers to IT people ( Geeks) and did he first wife run off with a guy who wore white socks ?.... ;))

I hope you don't claim to be an expert in analysing fakes - you've probably advised folks with genuine works ..




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For Moby -- there are a few tips in here !

 

AV say he sails an old man's boat ...  I've no reason to doubt him ..  ;)

I was in the UK National team for 10 days .. but the then Laser coach - also from N.Ireland wanted commitment I couldn't give as I hard just started my own biz 

I am now overweight for a Laser - and no where near fit enough but beat all the other Lasers - despite giving them a one min 20 head start with my various penalties .... We have one guy in his v. late seventies still racing one

I have no idea what you do (JayH) tennis orientated ? ....


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AV say he sails an old man's boat ...  I've no reason to doubt him ..  ;)

I was in the UK National team for 10 days .. but the then Laser coach - also from N.Ireland wanted commitment I couldn't give as I hard just started my own biz 

I am now overweight for a Laser - and no where near fit enough but beat all the other Lasers - despite giving them a one min 20 head start with my various penalties .... We have one guy in his v. late seventies still racing one

I have no idea what you do (JayH) tennis orientated ? ....

I dropped a few names in reference to some of your "name dropping" for a bit of fun-- but in my case all very very real ! I can keep going if you like !! :D
One of the many problems you have is that you know somewhere from nothing to not much about other people here- and will only get snippets as you do not develop relationships with people.There are members here who are/were superstars --like AJ ( Jumper here)  who are known worldwide by millions as a legend in his specific field of endeavour  and have only ever made the barest of mentions of part of that world.There are people here who know more( some who I have met in real life) about me -- and to their credit those confidences are kept. That works 2 ways -- and I hope I am not crossing a line in the next sentence.

Av has not always sailed an old mans boat ! Not sure which of his boats he was referring to --but he has a very beautiful largish yacht that would fit my description that would match! BTW  Moby -- you could not even afford a week's charter of that type of boat -- and AV owns it !! ;D

Interesting comment on your "involvement" in UK team -- does not fit with how things are done-  so call me sceptical.

Further -overweight for a Laser  --mmmm  -- not a fit either looking at your photos and noting recent comments about claimed height-- so perhaps you can tell us what weight you actually are? - Call me sceptical again !

Further (2) -- the Laser has  a thriving age  division world championship at Masters Games so there is no excuse !

Funnily enough after seeing  various  sailing related posts and your Laser claims I was going to tell you I could sail a Laser backwards around a course faster than you can sail !!   And -- the Laser has never been part of anything serious for me -- and --I still own one !
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What sort of strange person tells another they haven't done what they truly have and demands proof 30 years on ?

Moby, I spent a few days rereading some of J. Clarkson's writing and stories. They are great!

Here is what I found no where does J. Clarkson mention driving a De Tomaso Pantera. The car was interesting as a super car, that was dependable. A Ford engine and drive train. Not as exotic as Ferrari or Lamborghini but a car that was drivable and fun. Plus good looking. These vehicles were built from 1971 to 1993.

Now the Jaguar XJS or XJ~S was built from 1975 until 1996. The car was interesting in styling and in my opinion elegant. The car suffered from a rather poor reputation in reliability.

I spent a fair time looking into various sites regarding J. Clarskson, and different recollections there is no information confirming your tale. Why not go down to the library and find some information that corroborates your story.

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« Reply #140 on: September 19, 2018, 12:30:49 AM »
I dropped a few names in reference to some of your "name dropping" for a bit of fun-- but in my case all very very real ! I can keep going if you like !! :D

No thanks, I was merely being sl. friendly in showing some interest ...your continued folly re trying to suggest...

1/ I wasn't where I said I was

2/ When I said I was

3/ Who with

( along with AV ) somewhat amazes me..can two guys be SO STUPID as to continue to doubt truthful recollections of my life - as some sort of 'excuse' to belittle anything else I might post ? ..)

In another life, I provided FAST ( fast at the time)  internet connectivity to many 'lovvies' (including Anne Robinson who was not quite so famous - as her Weakest Leak time had yet to come .) .and at the time I didn't name drop ..  20 -30 years on - I see no harm letting the likes of you and AV making asses of yourselves suggesting I'm making it up ;))


I'm now convinced I've hurt your feelinz re busting your frequent copy and pastes from wack job UA sources on Crimea - which praise be - dried up..

As for Av ... He seems to believe that my stance on immigration and not tarring all followers of Islam with the same brush makes me 'strange' ..

He is a little sensitive re ARSE photos so this one's for him.. IF he's going to talk out of his .. at least let's see a better one..





It's titled "The rear end of Summer leaves the Northern hemisphere"..

One of the many problems you have ...

Av has not always sailed an old mans boat ! Not sure which of his boats he was referring to --but he has a very beautiful largish yacht that would fit my description that would match! BTW  Moby -- you could not even afford a week's charter of that type of boat -- and AV owns it !! ;D

Interesting comment on your "involvement" in UK team -- does not fit with how things are done-  so call me sceptical.

Further -overweight for a Laser  --mmmm  -- not a fit either looking at your photos and noting recent comments about claimed height-- so perhaps you can tell us what weight you actually are? - Call me sceptical again !

Further (2) -- the Laser has  a thriving age  division world championship at Masters Games so there is no excuse !

Funnily enough after seeing  various  sailing related posts and your Laser claims I was going to tell you I could sail a Laser backwards around a course faster than you can sail !!   And -- the Laser has never been part of anything serious for me -- and --I still own one !

JayH

One of my many 'faults' is certainly not posting BS about my life.. I reserve THAT for you and Av.. You very own Arthur Brett explains his love for the Laser and why...

In my early twenties I did the Laser Circuit, made the national training squad - to be accurate - by my results in travellers series of open meetings series up and down the country ...  a visit to my home club's Club Champion board would be a little clue as to your stupidity..given the number of times my name appears..

My very favourite trophy is one I won with a guy called Steve who had a stroke and is incapacitated down the left hand side...yet cycles 15 miles ( round trip) to the sailing club in a specially designed bike.

I taught him to sail in an Aussie designed boat - a Hansa 303



In his first Open Meeting -  UK National event - I crewed him to win in our doubled handed 303 ...    my most satisfying win ever...

I am flattered by the effort you've put in to try and suggest some lack of truthfulness re my posts - or my abilities [  :D ]  but I'm afraid I'm not seeking fame and there are others at my club who've done FAR more to promote Sailability- sailing for the disabled - than I - given the time I spend  away.. 

Lastly, I don't LIKE sailing bigger boats... they just don't FEEL as alive - and I reserve them for cruising to quiet coves..  My father owned a cruising yacht and I learnt it is more sensible to charter..   

A photo from a quiet cove at the eastern most Greek island in the Med ...  SC didn't even have a Schengen Visa - but we had to take shelter from a storm and were given permission to stay one night !




I most congratulate you both on decimating the thread, though... 












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« Reply #141 on: September 19, 2018, 12:49:51 AM »
Ah the Moby shuffle. He can not provide any proof for his claims so he deflects with other images.

As for Av ... He seems to believe that my stance on immigration and not tarring all followers of Islam with the same brush makes me 'strange' ..

Please show where I have discussed your stance on immigration? In fact where have I discussed immigration?

Ego a bit bruised? Veracity doubted?
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Re:Av and JayH - taking out of their respective ...
« Reply #142 on: September 19, 2018, 01:15:19 AM »
Ah the Moby shufflePlease show where I have discussed your stance on immigration?

Ego a bit bruised? Veracity doubted?


There is NO 'shuffle', 'Sir' ...   YOU are suggesting something I've posted is a 'fib' ....   You seem to be confused as to WHO needs to prove otherwise and if I had a photo from thirty years ago  - I'd 'delight' in rubbing your nose in it ...



I pointed out - elsewhere - that MY eldest daughter lived in S.London and regularly waked through neighbourhoods that some dickhead on US TV had proclaimed a 'no go' area......

YOU seem to have forgotten your suggesting that your daughter attended University in the UK and would not be revealing where - lest I sought her out ?!..... [emoji for puke ]

I'm sure you're 'stalking' slur is now flooding back ...

Once again, I'm constantly AMAZED at the daft things folks post about posters they've never met and assuredly - unless it is by unfortunate accident - never will - simply because they have opposing viewpoints...

I'd NEVER waste my time 'researching' - other than checking back on a forum - what was said by one-some in the context of a historical howler or a comment about my good-self ...   

Yup, this thread really is still about the Kremlin's away games ..

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Give it a rest Moby, your veracity is at an all time low with you shuffle/deflection.

It is a fib, you can not provide any proof otherwise.
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Moby --thanks for reposting that last photo-I specifically mentioned that in another thread today!

Next-- you constantly need everything to be spelt out to you-- and every T dotted and i crossed !! And you still miss the point all too often-- but that does not stop you blundering on .

On you sailing "feats" --mmm   well-- good for you ! I am happy that anyone participates   -- but -- let me paraphrase some comments I have made many times in other worlds in trying to explain high level competition  -- 
 Australian Rules Football is now a highly paid full time profession of an extremely athletic game played by skilled players -- come Grand final day -- Joe Average takes his 3 yo along and outside the ground has a "kick" of their plastic football  !!

 Is it the same game? mmm
Well-- your club sailing is the equivalent to kicking that plastic football!!
Yeah -- I am an elitest when I read BS!! ;D

Now back to a few specifics  --Too heavy for a Laser? Stop avoiding the question-- what height and weight are you? Your photos  offer some clues -- and my guess is that you are too light-- not too heavy .The  point is simple enough -- what weight DO YOU THINK MAKES YOU TOO HEAVY?   For anyone else reading -- it shows lack of understanding .

THEN--  prove you were in Crimea in Feb 2014 as you stated . I believe it was at least 2 years earlier that you were there.Offer some supporting "evidence " to your claim .

So --  I call LIAR again.

On all the sailing issues -- my actual attitude is good for you -- and it is what it is and does not need embellishment  into something it is not.
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Give it a rest Moby, your veracity is at an all time low with you shuffle/deflection.

It is a fib, you can not provide any proof otherwise.


Why should I 'give it a rest' when you persist in telling us a truthful recollection of my past experiences are fibs ?  :cluebat:

IF this was a Court of Law - YOU'd need to prove I was 'fibbing' - which I'm not ....     

You seem VERY confused as to right and wrong, truth and fiction ...







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Why should I 'give it a rest' when you persist in telling us a truthful recollection of my past experiences are fibs ? 

IF this was a Court of Law - YOU'd need to prove I was 'fibbing' - which I'm not ....     

You seem VERY confused as to right and wrong, truth and fiction ...

Here is where you are wrong you are claiming something you can not prove. From Stateside I checked where I could and can not find any proof of your 'exploits'. If I was an employer I would demand a proof of your claims. If I was a publisher again tangible evidence would be needed. You have every chance to do some research and indicate the reality with proof.

Until presently it remains a fib.
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LASER FORUM

Laser Talk 
Competitive Weight



Can you guys chip in with what you consider with a competitive weight for a master sailor, 5"10?

By competitive i mean able to win District Level events at least.
It would depend on how good your district is. If the winners in your masters divisions are also capable of winning open cubes, you would have no leeway in regard to weight and would not be able to be over or under weight by any significant degree.

Full rig weights would be between these ranges:

78kg if you are very strong and are able to hike all the way out for extended periods but that is the absolute minimum to be quick in all conditions and you would not want a heavy regatta as similarly skilled sailors who weigh in the low to mid 80kg's will beat you upwind. The advantage downwind is not enough to equalise the difference.

80-84kg being ideal for all conditions.

85kg is the upper range to remain competitive with the top group in light conditions. You could maybe get away with as much as 90kg but not if you are racing sailors who are ranked in lets say the top 100 on ISAF.

Basically you can be quick between these weight ranges in most conditions but skill and fitness will the main determinants of success.

http://sailingforums.com/threads/competitive-weight.20622/

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Here is where you are wrong you are claiming something you can not prove. From Stateside I checked where I could and can not find any proof of your 'exploits'. If I was an employer I would demand a proof of your claims. If I was a publisher again tangible evidence would be needed. You have every chance to do some research and indicate the reality with proof.

Until presently it remains a fib.


AV -- my very specific question should be easy to offer some evidence on-- given he want to live his life  out in the "open" internet

From earlier in thread --

Moby, You can NOT provide any actual evidence of your

supposed time in Crimea in Feb 2014  !!!!


Not one piece of "evidence" has been offered whatsoever  .

A very clear lie told -- and much attempt to divert from discussion .

Everywhere else you are accused of being a liar-- you spend endless time justifying yourself -- and -- in this very precise case -- all you offer is to try and move away from answering.
You lie as a matter of course - Trump is a liar as a matter of course -- mmmmmm
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Here is where you are wrong you are claiming something you can not prove.

INCORRECT

I posted a past experience from my past life ....  I HONESTY had no idea that some strange guys from the internet would have the temerity to suggest it was made up ....

From Stateside I checked where I could and can not find any proof of your 'exploits'. If I was an employer I would demand a proof of your claims. If I was a publisher again tangible evidence would be needed. You have every chance to do some research and indicate the reality with proof.

I have given you a new clue - Performance Car Magazine ... Feel free to buy up back copies from '87 - '89 ..

Why don't you write to JC and ask him why you can't find that he's driven and broken down in a D T P ? )))


Until presently it remains a fib. [/font][/size]

Let;s get this absolutely correct - YOU remain 'unconvinced' - stating I'm lying - esp . given I'm - clearly - defending my recollection and even conceding an error re the publication should be a HUGE clue as to your folly

Let's see if you can deal with YOUR memory issues re your contention 'Moby the stalker' )))

,,,and YUP the thread is still about the Skripal poisoning ..

Do you think that the Kremlin weren't behind it ?


 

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