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You are busy posting all over the place -- but decline to tell us your weight.
You recently made an attempt to confuse over your actual height  -- and photo you used gives us some idea of your actual weight.


NOTE -- when Moby is confronted about his bs -- no answer -- anything but an answer
« Last Edit: September 19, 2018, 02:06:10 AM by JayH »
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Re: Jay H making it up
« Reply #151 on: September 19, 2018, 02:41:58 AM »
Re my TRUTHFUL statement to JAYH  - which he has some trouble digesting



A very clear lie told -- and much attempt to divert from discussion .

It wasn't a lie ..and this thread is about the Skripals' poisoning ... so who's diverting ? ...

 I'm ever more amazed at your foolishness - viz:

Everywhere else you are accused of being a liar-- you spend endless time justifying yourself

Incorrect: IF I have evidence to put down an internet 'doubter' - of course I'll post it ..

How do I 'prove'  my statement ?  I entered Ukraine on an Irish passport and  Crimea was still under effective control by Kyiv ...   

You can - of course - write to the UA authorities or maps.me or openstreetmaps and ask if they keep records of users of their free to use versions of mapping software...

We used a Samusng Galaxy Note 1 and 2 and a specialist GPS/ GLONASS sat nav, with a built in GSM modem

Your technical  'ASSertions' re mapping software for Crimea in 2014 was nonsense.   Which one of us earns a crust from such business ?


MY post as to my last visit to Crimea is factual and truthful  - my Irish passport covering that period expired and I have a new one.  I saw NO reason to keep it to 'prove' to an internet idiot - where I've been - given I used the UK passports for trips to Russia (and places not so friendly with Israel )  since 2007 and I DO keep the UK ones, accordingly

I've only used that IRL one to go to Israel - asked for no stamp to be placed, Ukraine, Turkey and various EU trips.

JayH- I'm left wondering if you are describing yourself  re 'faults' ...    Which one of us posts about their travels with photos ? 

From 2012-14 I was single and hurting over my split with V ...  Up to early 2014, I actlvely dissuaded folks to take my photo and saw no reason to advertise my activities ...  a little like you....  'Mr 'secret squirrel - who gets quite upset when others question your movements :)))

Repeatedly telling someone and BROADCASTING they are 'lying' about a factual statement is the action of an internet fool





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You are busy posting all over the place -- but decline to tell us your weight.

Not the most observant poster - I have even had Silly BillyB doubt my  - height 179cm plus and weight low nineties in KG which was posted a few days ago ..

You recently made an attempt to confuse over your actual height  -- and photo you used gives us some idea of your actual weight.

Again - only Silly BillyB doubted my height ))


NOTE -- when Moby is confronted about his bs -- no answer -- anything but an answer

As we can see - JayH cannot remember what was posted days ago and THAT was another idiot telling me a fact concerning ME was a 'fib' :)

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You are busy posting all over the place -- but decline to tell us your weight.
You recently made an attempt to confuse over your actual height  -- and photo you used gives us some idea of your actual weight.


NOTE -- when Moby is confronted about his bs -- no answer -- anything but an answer

So -- state your height and current weight  is ????????????????????????????
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So -- state your height and current weight  is ????????????????????????????

JayH

How can ANYONE believe your 'ASSertions' when it is clear you don't read ....

Anyone not comatose by your ridiculous need for me to prove what I stated was fact to satisfy YOU would have noticed I've posted my height and weight several times in the last seven days ..

I have all the time in the world to counter you strange need to repeatedly question events in my life ..but at least READ my responses ? 

It will certainly save you making an ASS of yourself

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Re: Moby proves to JayH who really knows about Laser Racing ...
« Reply #155 on: September 19, 2018, 03:37:49 AM »
Moby --thanks for reposting that last photo-I specifically mentioned that in another thread today!

You'll forgive me - but I missed that post of yours ..  I'll check back when / if I convince you of your repeated folly on here...

On you sailing "feats" --mmm   well-- good for you ! I am happy that anyone participates   -- but -- let me paraphrase some comments I have made many times in other worlds in trying to explain high level competition 

Some of the guys I used to beat have indeed gone on to make money from racing, but it was the NEXT generation that can do that given the changes in rules re professionalism that didn't exist in my time of being useful .. 

You seems confused as to time, now, too - comparing today with the eighties - The guys who earnt money and it wasn't THAT big were ex-Olympic Champions - who precluded themselves from competing by their taking up - say - America's Cup campaigns


Now back to a few specifics


That would be a first seeing you've not dealt with the main one  - my 'fibbing' ...

  --Too heavy for a Laser? Stop avoiding the question

To remind our poor JayH - I gave my height and weight to Silly BillyB only days ago - and he even doubted that ...  I have NO problem - once more divulging FAR more about myself that you ;) 

179cm plus - low 90 Kg  - the mass is not made up muscular form - given my paunch ...

A quick check on Laser forums would have shown you that Ben Ainslie - 3to 4cm taller - ( UK multiple Gold and Silver  Medal winner ) was 78Kg - his ideal weight when competing for Laser Championships and he went up to 90Kg for the Finn

Why are you posting what is UTTER  BS to someone who's done the circuit and even competed against the young - future multiple champion ?

THEN--  prove you were in Crimea in Feb 2014 as you stated . I believe it was at least 2 years earlier that you were there.Offer some supporting "evidence " to your claim .

I'm 'sorry' but it's what you 'believe', now ?

So --  I call LIAR again.

Like I'm bovvered - given I know my original statement was truthful and you keep proving that you know no more about my life, movements, mapping software, Satellite positioning and now Laser Racing !

On all the sailing issues -- my actual attitude is good for you -- and it is what it is and does not need embellishment  into something it is not.

No embellishment - you got 100 percent FACT .... it's just that you ( and AV)  get your kicks from telling others that a FACT about my past is a 'fib' - and DEMAND proof ... 
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It's easy Moby-- state it here where it is directly relevant to a point in question!

You could have said   too light too fat  ,too unfit,too old -- but no-you said too heavy !
Which-- I dispute -- so just tell us all why you refuse to answer  !!!



You complain of the thread being diverted -- but  keep posting crap as you try and avoid being proven a liar/ :)
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Re:JayH now confused about what he's complaining about ..
« Reply #157 on: September 19, 2018, 04:01:23 AM »
It's easy Moby-- state it here where it is directly relevant to a point in question!

You could have said   too light too fat  ,too unfit,too old -- but no-you said too heavy !
Which-- I dispute -- so just tell us all why you refuse to answer  !!!

JayH,

You're clearly not the sharpest tool in the box. 

I've repeated that you are 'mistaken' re my statement concerning my times in Crimea  - which considering your getting your knickers in  twist when folks question your movements was ironic ..

Then you tried to suggest I was being 'economical with fact' re my sailing exploits - with some interesting 'boasts' I'd love to take you up on - if we're ever on the same stretch of water - and have a Laser each ..

WHY was this ?  Because I correctly questioned your daft assertion re mapping software re Crimea - which resulted in you telling me about something I earn my crust from - and I knew you were struggling - when you posted howlers about the chronology of firms and their products I've tested long before you knew of them ...

Sadly - for you - you chose my hobby of the last 45 years and my VERY specific expertise which is satellite comms - for the last - gosh 18 - years ...   

You are indeed BillyB's twin  - in that you will never admit when you are up against someone who knows what they are talking about - in that field - and then revert to 'Moby's a liar' when you simply don't want to - cannot believe that a FACT you read is indeed just that ...

YOU want us to 'respect' your experiences of Ukraine - which you don't back up with any photos, etc. - the irony of your demands should not be lost on any casual reader we might still have....

You can kick and scream and 'protest' all you like, but it will not alter the FACT that what I posted about my trips to Ukraine - of which Crimea was still a part- without question - were truthful

You are the sort of bloke who believes the Skripal's are being held against their will  .. THAT is how daft you come across - by doubting my word and even calling me a 'liar' ...





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So - what is your height & weight?



So-- where is the link to your posts from  Crimea Feb 2014?
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So - what is your height & weight?

Can you REALLY be that THICK ? It seems you don't READ / engage your brain before posting ... it's even on THIS page


So-- where is the link to your posts from  Crimea Feb 2014?

Do you need to KEEP on proving inattentiveness ?

I already pointed out I wasn't posting while 'in mourning' ( late 2012 - to early 2015 on here )  and I only returned to the  FSU dating scene in early 2014 - 'clue'  for you ...


Yup, JayH  you've dropped a clanger re your proclamation as to my movements

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Re: Moby proves to JayH who really knows about Laser Racing ...
« Reply #160 on: September 19, 2018, 03:54:51 PM »
You seems confused as to time, now, too - comparing today with the eighties - The guys who earnt money and it wasn't THAT big were ex-Olympic Champions - who precluded themselves from competing by their taking up - say - America's Cup campaigns

179cm plus - low 90 Kg  - the mass is not made up muscular form - given my paunch ...

A quick check on Laser forums would have shown you that Ben Ainslie - 3to 4cm taller - ( UK multiple Gold and Silver  Medal winner ) was 78Kg - his ideal weight when competing for Laser Championships and he went up to 90Kg for the Finn

Things change, there now is decent money in driving boats or coaching sailors. As well as navigator, tactician and bow man. A friend from Star days is and has been for a long time connected to the Luna Rosa team. He earns $100,000 per year when we last spoke two years ago. I understand the tactician's on a TP52 earn more now.

When I was sailing Star's I knew B. Ainsle was competing in Medemblik, I suspect for the Finn he weighed a bit more.
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 Regardless of all else -- 90kgs is ok weight for a weekend Laser sailor.
Quoting Ben Ainslie at his peak is ridiculous-he was at the bottom end of the weight scale  and super fit  -- historically the guys used    weight jackets to increase weight  into higher  range.
You can see the comments in the link I supplied on weight.

So Moby-- your comments were basically BS and designed to mislead.You are a club sailor -- and as such -- no where remotely close to international level. No shame in that in itself -- but you were not being truthful !! :)

Also note-- I do not need to research any of this stuff- it is old news to me

Things change, there now is decent money in driving boats or coaching sailors. As well as navigator, tactician and bow man. A friend from Star days is and has been for a long time connected to the Luna Rosa team. He earns $100,000 per year when we last spoke two years ago. I understand the tactician's on a TP52 earn more now.

When I was sailing Star's I knew B. Ainsle was competing in Medemblik, I suspect for the Finn he weighed a bit more.


Indeed things change -- there has been very serious money around in this last couple of decades with the America's Cup  syndicates driving costs up and signing on guys for very decent money  as the sought to buy expertise.
Payments were around in the 80's as Av says -- and the wider professionalism of the sport at the top end saw many countries seeking the expertise to climb the ladder.
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So -- state your height and current weight  is ????????????????????????????


I have no inclination to get involved with this. I try and get along with everyone. And if any of you fellas wind up in the Republic of Georgia, look me up. I'll be glad to show you around.


OK about Moby. I've been on video chat with him and I've spoken to the lovely SC. I would judge him to be of average height (5' 10') and weight (185 pounds). He could lose about 20 pounds but other than that, he is A-OK.

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Re: Moby proves to JayH who really knows about Laser Racing ...
« Reply #163 on: September 19, 2018, 10:50:25 PM »

When I was sailing Star's I knew B. Ainsle was competing in Medemblik, I suspect for the Finn he weighed a bit more.

Av - the figures I quoted for Ben Ainslie's weight - at the times of winning in Laser and Finns at the Olympics - was from an interview with .....Ben Ainslie ...

Once again, you doubt the horse's mouth ;)


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OK about Moby. I've been on video chat with him and I've spoken to the lovely SC. I would judge him to be of average height (5' 10') and weight (185 pounds). He could lose about 20 pounds but other than that, he is A-OK.



Good morning , Vietnam ! :))

Gents  -are my posts invisible.. ?   My father was 5' 10" and - but my brother and I are taller ..

.... 'clue' to my height / weight just might be ( as I KEEP saying ) to be found on here and a Silly BillyB thread whereby he also 'doubts' the veracity of my word - including my height !  :popcorn:

Skype is not a good way to work out someone's height ( IMHO)  ..SC 'fibbed' about her height - adding 4 cm and before her I chatted to another lady - who hadn't listed her height and I figured was 164cm and she is 169cm ,,

Maxx, thanks for the support - but it is too late ... I am now on meds and in therapy - as BillyB, JayH and Av have me doubting my height, weight and who I've met / what I've done ...

I'm convinced I'm a rogue android and been 'programmed' ;)





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I have no inclination to get involved with this. I try and get along with everyone. And if any of you fellas wind up in the Republic of Georgia, look me up. I'll be glad to show you around.


OK about Moby. I've been on video chat with him and I've spoken to the lovely SC. I would judge him to be of average height (5' 10') and weight (185 pounds). He could lose about 20 pounds but other than that, he is A-OK.

Maxx - I was not disputing his height or weight -- I just wanted him to say it !  Quite happy to accept his word-whatever he said ! He does look slimmer than 90kgs !!
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Regardless of all else -- 90kgs is ok weight for a weekend Laser sailor.

Telly-tubbie, No-oh ... JayH .... you may be referring to yourself.... *I* still race regularly ....WHY do you persist in writing about stuff - when it is clear you don't live the life TO know ?   ;)

In the mean time it seems that the Sun comic newspaper has fallen for a sick publicity stunt involving a Russian born lass ... who was 'poisoned' in a Salisbury Restaurant only recently re-opened ...

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/19/salisburys-saga-the-spy-the-supermodel-the-strychnine-and-thats-just-the-sub-plot








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Another messed up quote from Moby.

The key to B. Ainsle was/is he is supper fit. Most Finn sailors were 110 kilo and up. More than any other sailor Ainsle was very 'physical' in the Finn and set a new standard to race at the highest level.
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Another messed up quote from Moby.

The key to B. Ainsle was/is he is supper fit. Most Finn sailors were 110 kilo and up. More than any other sailor Ainsle was very 'physical' in the Finn and set a new standard to race at the highest level.


Sorted re the quoting - thanks

'physical' as in may be too much kenetic - rather than wind -  induced power ?;)
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Telly-tubbie, No-oh ... JayH .... you may be referring to yourself.... *I* still race regularly ....WHY do you persist in writing about stuff - when it is clear you don't live the life TO know ?   ;)



Ahh right -- Moby the genuis ( not) !

For the record  -- I am 182 cm  and currrently a fat 76kgs  --ideally I prefer to be sub 70kgs . I have an arm in plaster currently as a result of recent events in Ukraine !  As a result - have put on a few kgs - geez _ i wish I could actually blame that !
You have no idea about my background --or why or how -- and it will stay like that.
I said it to you before --in case you missed it -- do not presume so much about other people -- you all too often know zilch -- and only idiots like sBB2 brag and insinuate in their attempts to put others down --it only serves to show ho "little they are ( now that means petty -- as well as a short arse in sBB2 case!

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You have no idea about my background --or why or how -- and it will stay like that.

To confirm - I am not interested in your personal life, your height or weight ..

That  You choose to comment about my life - even telling us when I'm 'wrong' about it ... ;)  and claiming it is 'BS' ...  It's plain foolish and not a little bizarre ...TR*LLing fits the bill..

You've filled a few pages on this thread about the Skripals with your 'estimations' of my life and whilst it was entertaining - you must surely see- even someone as daft as Silly BillyB - that you aren't going to get me to change a truthful statement as to my movements ...

I'm off on my travels - again - and I'll be sure to keep a photo diary for the likes of Av, BillyB and yourself - lest I need to 'prove' myself in thirty years time.....


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Moby -- you show up in near enough every thread spewing your scepticim and innuendo over others relentlessly,  The you sqeall lick the stuck pig you are when  your lies are exposed.
You are a hipocrite in the extreme -- you make up   stuff about others without ANY foundation of truth -- and then want to get away with playing the victim.
Sound familiar--
you and Trump have more that telling lies in common.

You told an outright lie in your  desire to be "one up" -- and support a  contention of your own.

Of note -- you and silly Billy cannot leave anything --have a look at how many threads you destroy--  and  how many people at any one time you are arguing with .

You really are a DUNCE !!
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Moby -- you show up in near enough every thread

JayH will now describe himself ..

spewing your scepticim and innuendo over others relentlessly,  The you sqeall lick the stuck pig you are when  your lies are exposed.

..I missed when I uttered  said 'fib' and when it - or any 'untruth'  has been 'exposed' ? ... 

Any 'squealing' is YOU pretending you know about others lives and telling them they are 'mistaken' ...


This IS delicious irony ..

You are a hipocrite in the extreme -- you make up   stuff about others without ANY foundation of truth -- and then want to get away with playing the victim.
Sound familiar--
you and Trump have more that telling lies in common.

You told an outright lie in your  desire to be "one up" -- and support a  contention of your own.

Of note -- you and silly Billy cannot leave anything --have a look at how many threads you destroy--  and  how many people at any one time you are arguing with .

You really are a DUNCE !!

Being called a 'dunce' by an internet idiot who is describing himself - and doesn't even realise it - that made my day..



In the meantime ..EVERY time you post bollox about someone's life / movements, etc, and tell them that a factual statement is 'untrue' - you can expect to be put straight ...and mocked...
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Looks like Putin has some explaining to do. Ruslan Boshirov the assumed identity of one of those who tried to assassinate the Skripals is in fact a GRU colonel, Colonel Anatoliy Vladimirovich Chepiga. He was made a Hero of the Russian Federation by decree of Putin
in 2014 in a ceremony shrouded in secrecy.

Of course few in Russia will know of this unless they have internet access and read foreign websites. GRU colonels don't tend to just do silly things while on vacation in foreign countries, they take orders from very high ranking Russian officials who in turn take orders from Putin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Intelligence_Directorate
http://www.yahoo.com/news/skripal-apos-hitman-apos-unmasked-160000596.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Skripal

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Yesterday, it seems, there was a threat to discontinue RT in GB.  Russia quickly responded that they would remove all UK correspondents and reporters from Russia.  Then, in a blatant effort to intimidate GB, the spokesperson said that it is not wise to threaten a 'nuclear power'.  Strong arm tactics.  Seems to be the new Russia.

Wow, so we'll still get RT in N.Ireland, then ? ....


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