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Where are all the old timers? Its time to check in.
« on: August 30, 2018, 05:04:26 AM »
I haven't been here in a while. I'm guessing the advice given here is still free.

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2018, 08:14:34 AM »
I haven't been here in a while. I'm guessing the advice given here is still free.

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Re: Where are all the old timers? Its time to check in.
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2018, 09:33:42 AM »

Some guys check in. Others have checked out. We lost Groovlstk a few months ago to cancer.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=22849.0
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2018, 06:31:57 PM »
Hi Greg,

I'm still around as time permits.
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2018, 01:21:56 PM »

                                                             OLD?
 
                                                                               
                                     

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2018, 02:22:14 PM »
Coming up on 16.  Will stick around maybe till Nov to poke a stick in some folks eyes ;)

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2018, 03:50:48 PM »
Coming up our our 10th anniversary. I still check in every-once in a while.
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2018, 05:51:14 PM »
What about Gator?  We went out to a nice Cuban dinner once in Tampa about 10 years ago. I hated hearing that about Groovistk passing. Such a terrible disease. I've lost 2 close friends the past two years to it. Its hard to believe I was here about 15 years ago. My how things change. I'm still so good looking and of course my kids are growing up way way too fast. Maya is 11 now and Nicholas is 8. Maya looks and acts like her mother and of course Nicholas is wrestling and playing football and being all boy. Looking back I honestly don't know what I could've done differently. I harbor few regrets because of my kids. I wish I could come here and tell you all is smooth. It varies. Like John Denver said "some days are diamonds and some days are stone. Ive watched a sweet innocent girl from a village become a miserable soul exactly like her mother the last 8 years. I honestly cant say I recommend this endeavor. Sure it works out sometimes according to statistics. I'm still friends with a doctor I almost went to see in Saransk back in 2001. She's divorced now. No way in hell would I pull that trigger because thats exactly what it would be.

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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2018, 07:37:21 PM »
I've watched a sweet innocent girl from a village become a miserable soul exactly like her mother the last 8 years.

WOW . . . sorry to hear that !!
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2018, 10:18:56 PM »
Hey Greg,


Capt B here. I don't believe its a woman from Russia, Ukraine or here....in the states thats really the issue. I went to Russia my first time with a friend. He zeroed in on one women in particular......from the get go. Everyone in the LTP office said there were a few other women who who really like him......and I think that he would be interested in them....also........BUT..... he felt he had to remain loyal to the first gal that he met. I told him, one day, that compared to me....he was at a disadvantage. What do mean....he replied. You have never been married before....I said. An old friend of mine...JB...a member of this forum years ago said...."this venture is not for everyone.....this is the master-class.....your "BA degree" was being married....then divorced....at least one. I believe it is true....to a degree. The friend I went with on my first trip to Russia.....is now divorced. It was no surprise to me. I saw nits and pieces of her "unpleasant side"...even when we were in Russia...before they married. He is now gun-shy about trying again. It is unfortunate. He is a really great guy.


I dated a few women in Russia for an extended period of time. Eventually I broke this off....when I decided they were not right for me....as marriage material. You see....I actually learned from the mistakes of my first marriage. Some folks never do. I think my fiend has...I wish he would give it another shot. Yes dating/marrying someone from another country can be more difficult. You have all of the regular +/- issues of a regular relationship......then add language and cultural differences to the mix. I walked away from a stunningly beautiful women in Tver, Russia...because I realized she was not into me....to the same degree I was into her. She was not interested in learning English....even when I paid for lessons...and gave her a cassette course. It was hard to walk away....but I knew it was the right thing to do. There were a few others....with similar issues.


The day I met my wife....it was different. I arrived at her local airport at about midnight.....and her standing with a card with my name on it....in that goofy little leather hat. About a 20 minute drive to my apartment....with no lulls in conversation. We stayed-up all night talking. in less than 24 hours I knew.....this girl was different. She really cared about her family, friends....and others.....and still does. Fifteen years of marriage later....and things are still very good. I had it a little easier than many folks here.....she was an English teacher for 15 years when we met. That mostly (not completely) eliminated one of the two hurdles to this endeavor (language barrier).


JayH made a comment in another thread about watching out for antiquated (paraphrase) "advice". I believe some good advice is timeless. Yes...its different today......different problems.....different technology....the cultures have changed......yada yada yada....... Some things will never change. You still have to decide if the person you are interested in....is as interested in....YOU.  It is wise to get to know her relatives and friends....to see how .....THEY REGARD HER. If she will only meet you somewhere other than her hometown....they may be a hidden reason. The "10 commandments
of FSU dating are still relevant.....but still broken.....then the guy blames everybody and/or everyone.....for why things went South. Common sense never goes out of date.


19 years ago computers were common. No one was writing real (paper) letters anymore.....or using envelopes and stamps. I was told bt the RWG forum that I was crazy to write....then mail.....old-fashioned letters. But I wrote 16 brief....two short paragraph letters. I did this about 6 or 7 weeks before my trip. I received 14 replies......about 8 or nine handwritten.......the rest by e-mail. One had been matched....but they had not yet removed her profile. The 16th RW had been away for part of the summer for an internship.....just finishing law school. She called the office about 3 days before my departure. I bet a lot of guys here will say such a thing will not work...THESE DAYS. I will not tell you why it would still work...that is for you to figure out. Hint: "everyone else is doing the "same" thing"


Yes I ......agree......many things are "different"....today. But some things will always be relevant.


Oh............Hey greg.......glad to see you are still kicking. A few of us geezers are still here.......but slowly thinning. I only visit here occasionally now.
JB is still alive......but has not been here for years.


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Re: Where are all the old timers? Its time to check in.
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2018, 12:45:51 AM »



The day I met my wife....it was different. I arrived at her local airport at about midnight.....and her standing with a card with my name on it....in that goofy little leather hat. About a 20 minute drive to my apartment....with no lulls in conversation. We stayed-up all night talking. in less than 24 hours I knew.....this girl was different. She really cared about her family, friends....and others.....and still does. Fifteen years of marriage later....and things are still very good. I had it a little easier than many folks here.....she was an English teacher for 15 years when we met. That mostly (not completely) eliminated one of the two hurdles to this endeavor (language barrier).


JayH made a comment in another thread about watching out for antiquated (paraphrase) "advice". I believe some good advice is timeless. Yes...its different today......different problems.....different technology....the cultures have changed......yada yada yada....... Some things will never change. You still have to decide if the person you are interested in....is as interested in....YOU.  It is wise to get to know her relatives and friends....to see how .....THEY REGARD HER. If she will only meet you somewhere other than her hometown....they may be a hidden reason. The "10 commandments
of FSU dating are still relevant.....but still broken.....then the guy blames everybody and/or everyone.....for why things went South. Common sense never goes out of date.


Marc  (Capt B)
 

Marc --  love your post.
My comments were not about relationships per se -I agree that experience is timeless.
The part I was referencing in that comment was on specifics  eg huge huge difference in communication from even 5 years ago -- but dramatic fro 10 . The easy immediate access to the internet is near enough universal -- that changed a lot of things . One frequent poster repeatedly proffered advice about one city that has seen substantial change -- and despite the flaw being pointed out numerous times ( not by me) he kept doing it !
Probably the biggest difference is in the web sites and how to make contacts etc
You get my point  !
Now --please note -this is not directed at you personally  in any way ! Guys who were there in the decade after to collapse of the USSR  and the various following economic crisis had it easy -- girls did need to escape  and try and find a better life so the economic issue was much greater than it is today --it is what gave rise to the whole MOB industry.

I particularly enjoyed reading this !
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The day I met my wife....it was different. I arrived at her local airport at about midnight.....and her standing with a card with my name on it....in that goofy little leather hat. About a 20 minute drive to my apartment....with no lulls in conversation. We stayed-up all night talking. in less than 24 hours I knew.....this girl was different. She really cared about her family, friends....and others.....and still does. Fifteen years of marriage later....and things are still very good. I had it a little easier than many folks here.....she was an English teacher for 15 years when we met. That mostly (not completely) eliminated one of the two hurdles to this endeavor (language barrier)
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That is a lovely meeting!

I look back at my first meeting with my current lady over 3 years  ago  !  I had been on a long trip where I had finally made the break with my long term( much longer than many marriages !!) Ukrainian ex and finalised many loose ends -- with both my head and heart now being in unison - I was ready to move on .
During the 2 months I caught up with many old friends and made some new ones . Met quite a few girls but was not ready for serious.
On my way back to Kyiv I was staying in a city that is easy drive to the airport on my last day. So- I get online -first profile I look at -is from that city - so I say Hi. As it happened - she was in Kyiv ! Cutting a long story short -- we arrange to meet the next day at the airport ( which is on her way home).
So -- come leaving day - I am in terminal doing all the organising   needed  -- I look up to see this most exquisite creature walking towards me with a wonderful smile  -- I was blown away ! I half thought she would not show up -- but her photos did not do her justice--  far more beautiful and way better  looking in real life .
We talked non stop with lot's of laughing and smiling to the point where I HAD to go to catch my flight.
I could not arrange my next trip fast enough !!


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Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2018, 10:26:58 AM »
...Yes I ......agree......many things are "different"....today. But some things will always be relevant....


That pretty much sums it up for me, too. Considering all the tools/components available today that weren't available even a few years ago (skype, social media, availability of home computers, whatsapp, etc..), I'd say the fish barrel today is likely far more stocked and much more accessible than it ever was.

Bottom line is, this had always and largely depended on the fisherman. Just as it had always been since time immemorial. The ease/difficulty in dating, here or anywhere, had always been about 'you'. It doesn't matter whether it was back in the ice age, '50s or the 22nd century. I never understood why a lot of these men make simple things unnecessarily complicated.


BTW - next time you see jb, give him my regards. He'll probably remember me as 'Matt3' / Bodine from RWG.
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Re: Where are all the old timers? Its time to check in.
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2018, 01:49:02 PM »
GQ,


I remember you as....."Bodine" on RWG. Time flies. JB & wife "I" are still alive and well........I think they even have a few grand kids n/'/ow.


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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2018, 02:00:57 PM »
GQ,


I remember you as....."Bodine" on RWG. Time flies. JB & wife "I" are still alive and well........I think they even have a few grand kids n/'/ow.


Capt B


Awesome. Let jb know his advice to me when I was still in the 'search mode' is as golden then as it is today. Best advice ever given to me. Despite the fact I am still happily married with my wife, I had come to know the wisdom of his words.
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Re: Where are all the old timers? Its time to check in.
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2018, 05:52:41 PM »

Old timers you mean cars from the 1950s? :D

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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2018, 05:30:16 AM »
Believe it or not, I'm still out here somewhere.
I can't believe it's been eight years since I wrote this trip report:
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=11863.0

Time flies!
It's still the fourth-most viewed trip report on this forum.

I'm keeping a low profile about what I'm doing in life for my own reasons.  I'm trying not to attract undue attention to myself.  But I'm fine.  I still read the threads here once in awhile.  It sure seems like there is a lot more about politics than about relationships and Russian women.  Good to see a lot of the names I recognize are still active.

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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2018, 07:56:30 PM »
Old timers you mean cars from the 1950s? :D



Cool!  ;)

Can you post an image of a Freddy Flintstone type vehicle in your collection?


 
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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2018, 05:43:43 PM »
I have not been on here for a long time, just happened to see it in my bookmarks looking for something else.


We're coming up on our 10 year anniversary also. :clapping:

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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2018, 02:00:25 PM »
Here off and on. I like being here and the members, it is just the schedule and some security concerns due to leaving Russia and migrating to Ukraine. Too many dead or missing journalists who don't sing the Kremlin's tune.


A handful of increasingly serious threats, detained temporarily when returning to Moscow from Amsterdam in 2015 over the MH17 debacle, and the requirement to register as a "foreign agent" because I work in non-Russian media were the last straws.


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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2018, 09:53:04 PM »
Wow great posts from all. I thought I was the only one left who originally wrote postal letters! I remember meeting some of the guys and wives on this site for breakfast in Miami mid 2000's. Can't remember the names. Best wishes to all old timers

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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2018, 04:51:33 AM »
Muckraker checking in. Haven’t been reading the board lately, but life with Oxana just gets better and better. Decided to move away from America, did some traveling and now in Vladivostok. Will stay for a year or so and then settle in London. Fourth child due in  June. Yeah I know but what the hell. Other kids are doing great, ages 12, 10 and 8 right now. Had to bring the damn dog around the world with us too.  We will be celebrating our fifteenth wedding anniversary in January. Oxana I mean, not the damn dog.

I will post my GoFundMe details as a sticky.

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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2018, 06:30:07 AM »
A premature congratulations on your fifteenth Muckraker! Quite a family you got there!

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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2018, 09:37:57 PM »
Muckraker checking in. Haven’t been reading the board lately, but life with Oxana just gets better and better. Decided to move away from America, did some traveling and now in Vladivostok. Will stay for a year or so and then settle in London. Fourth child due in  June. Yeah I know but what the hell. Other kids are doing great, ages 12, 10 and 8 right now. Had to bring the damn dog around the world with us too.  We will be celebrating our fifteenth wedding anniversary in January. Oxana I mean, not the damn dog.

I will post my GoFundMe details as a sticky.

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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2018, 05:29:41 PM »

Nice to see you Stirliz!  I'm still around. Moved to Las Vegas a few years back.  All going well here.



Old timers you mean cars from the 1950s? :D


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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2018, 07:05:44 AM »
One more here. Full steam ahead in sports!

Skating in the US often. Soon going to Miami for a skate with my US friends!

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« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2019, 01:09:42 AM »
 :deadhorse: is
Cool!  ;)

Can you post an image of a Freddy Flintstone type vehicle in your collection?
My collection includes only 5 vehicles, and 4 of them are like this... Unfortunately, one of them was left in the Crimea.


Nice to see you Stirliz!  I'm still around. Moved to Las Vegas a few years back.  All going well here.
Hi! Nice to hear from you. My wife still remembers our time in Yalta in 2004. I lost my Crimea home and stay in Odessa all the time.


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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2019, 08:10:41 PM »
Hi All,

Please excuse my tardiness in joining this thread. 

Short Story - I am still kicking and happily married.

My Cossack wife is doing very well.  We just celebrated our first meeting (Moscow - January 2, 2006).  Although having known each other for 13 years, we have been married for just 7+ years.  It is a long story and some of the OG here know the basic plot. 

She is more contented than ever, and as a result we are closer than ever.  Last week we were in Miami at the Tatiana Restaurant when she grasped my coat lapel and  explained her fulfillment and happiness.  She added what one might classify as Sweet Nothings,  yet her big tears of joy revealed her thoughts were pravda.  Made my old heart soar.  Caveat - both of us had been overserved with vodka.

When we married,  her two children of course came with her.   Her incredibly beautiful daughter has developed into an outstanding businesswoman.  The company she and her husband founded has grown rapidly and has been very profitable - enough to open a new store which she manages, to purchase and remodel a large house, and to celebrate her 30th birthday in Abu Dhabi - no expense spared.  She has the immigrant work ethic combined with the kind of smarts not found in a book.   

My delightfully charming stepson is a freshman in college.  Realizing the importance of working, he has a job at a supermarket deli.  During the holidays I ventured to the store and heard him from afar singing Christmas songs to his customers as he prepared their subs. 

Me?  I am a grandfather (a 3-yo beauty) who makes me feel truly blessed.

Age is catching up with me and I am now the proud owner of titanium knees and not such a proud owner of a larger girth.  The knee replacements stabilized my golf swing and this year I finally shot my age (a big deal).  My ol' frat brother and I teamed up to win my club's Member-Guest Tournament (for you non-golfers, that is a really big deal).   The photo shows my sheer exhaustion after playing 63 holes over three days plus 4 grueling playoff holes.   

The wife will soon travel to Russia, and I probably will have time to make a few posts. 


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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2019, 08:23:40 PM »
WOW, the Gator man returns.
Happy to hear that all is going well with you and your family.
The grandchild is from one of your sons?
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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2019, 09:33:46 PM »
Hi! Nice to hear from you. My wife still remembers our time in Yalta in 2004. I lost my Crimea home and stay in Odessa all the time.

Do you have Viber? Drop me a line at +380678114493.

Hey Stirlitz,

Nice to see you stopping by!

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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2019, 09:35:00 PM »
The wife will soon travel to Russia, and I probably will have time to make a few posts.

Thanks for stopping by Gator!
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
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If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2019, 10:04:58 AM »
WOW, the Gator man returns.
Happy to hear that all is going well with you and your family.
The grandchild is from one of your sons?

Yes, my older son.  He and the mother are not married.   

My stepdaughter is married without children.  They just purchased a German Shepherd puppy, prompting me to infer that children could be next.  OTOH, I do not fully understand millennials.   The puppy cost $4,000 (he was whelped in Germany)!!!  If one wants puppy, why not get the best.    The dog receives better care and attention (e. g., organic meat)  than I gave my sons.  Cute dog, much longer hair than the breed I see in America.    I told my wife the dog makes her a babushka, and she smiles.   

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« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2019, 11:19:21 AM »
Yes, my older son.  He and the mother are not married.   

My stepdaughter is married without children.  They just purchased a German Shepherd puppy, prompting me to infer that children could be next.  OTOH, I do not fully understand millennials.   The puppy cost $4,000 (he was whelped in Germany)!!!  If one wants puppy, why not get the best.    The dog receives better care and attention (e. g., organic meat)  than I gave my sons.  Cute dog, much longer hair than the breed I see in America.    I told my wife the dog makes her a babushka, and she smiles.

What is the process for obtaining immigration for a foreign dog ?
Perhaps a fiancee/fiance visa !
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« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2019, 01:48:17 PM »
Hey Stirlitz,

Nice to see you stopping by!

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Nice to see you too! How’s life?
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« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2019, 01:42:36 AM »
Doesn't Ed breed German Shepherds in Florida ? ;)

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« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2019, 06:05:25 PM »
Greetings, old-timer here. Looks like my last PM was from Jet in 2006. Is it really possible 13 years have passed? Yikes.

Kudos to Dan, the mods and some fellow old-timers I recognize from RWG for their efforts in shepherding  the best RW forum on the internet. Never thought any of them would exceed RWG. I was wrong.

A brief history for the vast majority who don't know me. In 1988 I was sent on assignment to the Soviet Union as a well, cameraguy to document the then-popular sister city relationships with Russian cities (Irkutsk in our case) with a goal of improving relations between the US and USSR. "Glasnost" and "Perestroika" were the sentiments of the day. Mathias Rust had just flown his Cessna from Germany under Soviet radar and landed on the cobblestones of Red Square as a "goodwill gesture" on behalf of the German people. Soviet military authorities were not amused. Mathias was held in solitary confinement, not so much as punishment but for protection from the hundreds of air defense troops who were imprisoned with him.

Back then, very few Russians had even seen an American except on "Dallas", one of their favorite TV shows. I was treated like a rock star, chauffeured in my own limo that sped through red lights with militsia escorts. Vodka parties broke out everywhere we went. Outside a former "hard currency" shop in Moscow, I was offered $100 for the Levis I was wearing, which I would've gladly sold if I hadn't been concerned about looking really silly.

While on a boat tour of Lake Baikal, the twin teenage daughters of the Irkutsk oblast governor shyly approached me and asked, how many airplanes did I own? Taxi drivers who knew an American delegation was in town brought a beautiful RW to my apartment after she demanded to be taken to meet the American. I told the taxi driver sure I'll meet her, after all, who was I to dash this young girl's dreams?  ;)

Lake Baikal was vast and mind-blowing -- the largest, oldest, deepest lake in the world, with a fifth of the world's fresh water, but which most Americans had never heard of.

In short, I was hooked on this strange but exceedingly beautiful and friendly place. In the ensuing years, I probably made a dozen trips through 9 of Russia's 11 time zones, from Moscow to Kolyma, which to this day elicits shudders from Russians for being the location of the infamous Stalinist gulags, which I also visited by way of 6WD Soviet Gaz troop carrier (and which despite Solzhenitsyn, a shocking number of Americans still haven't heard of.) Many of these remote gulags are still intact -- rickety guard towers standing watch over prisoner barracks, surrounded by double barbed-wire fencing and preserved in time by the brutal Siberian climate.

During some trips, I met a variety of Russian women, everywhere from the early AFA tours at the Hollywood Nights nightclub in St. Petersburg (anyone remember those? lol), to various agencies in cities I happened to be traveling through. Not trusting agency profiles of their "traditional women" I never made much of an effort to write anyone in advance, which in hindsight was a mistake because no one had much of an investment in a random American tourist passing through town.

Despite getting close to several RW and one UW in particular, I remain unmarried, which I'm actually fine with. Things have changed a LOT since those early halcyon days and I probably don't have it in me to traverse the RW minefields again. Coincidentally, I'm currently visiting a former RWG member and his wonderful RW wife who I've known for decades and I also remain in touch with a couple other guys I've met on the boards. These highly adventurous trips to remote corners of Russia remain the absolute best times of my life but it feels like this entire RW/WM era has passed. It's amusing to read highly opinionated but obviously noob RWD posters -- one in particular -- who mistakenly believes RW will faint at the mere sight of his western-resident presence without having a whole lot to offer except disdain for local women. Sorry to say we were once FSU rock stars, now we're in a garage band. Despite all the hard-won experience and sage advice he's been offered, it's painfully obvious he'll have to learn everything the hard way. I guess some things never change.

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« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2019, 11:07:01 PM »
CameraGuy,

A legendary name from the distant past.  You were a very prolific and insightful poster on the pre-RWD board when I joined in 2002.  You shared sagas of the real MOB scene when men would become engaged during their first and only one-week trip.  And there were printed color catalogs of women. 

I agree that Russia was best explored as a travel adventure rather than a speed dating trip.   I recall you thought highly of RW, yet never pulled the trigger.   That was back then, and now I read it is true today.  That means you never had a Bachelor Party.  What a loss!!!!!!

Good luck to you, and great to hear from you!

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« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2019, 02:02:15 AM »
Thanks for the kind words, Mr. Gator. Not to engage in a stroke fest, but your recognition means a lot. I'd have a hard time coming up with many other posters who've given such consistently solid advice for so long. That sage advice is reflected in your long-term successful marriage and family, for which congratulations are in order.

Yes, I remember the color catalogues and OWWs (one week wonders) who rarely listened to any advice because what could possibly go wrong with their "traditional" hot young fiancée, who after a few dinners and shopping trips expressed her undying love but wouldn't kiss them or hold their hand. Sure, perfectly normal. Probably just a cultural difference. Those early days compared to the present remind me of the title to David Spade's book, A Polaroid Guy in a Snapchat World.

Great hearing from you too!
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« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2019, 08:59:50 AM »
Despite all the hard-won experience and sage advice he's been offered, it's painfully obvious
he'll have to learn everything the hard way. I guess some things never change.

~CG

Quote of the day for sure.

There will always guys who have to learn everything the hard way.
I learned a few lessons in life myself that way.

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« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2019, 10:09:52 AM »
Greetings, old-timer here.<snip>

WOW! CG! Nice to see you're still out and about.

There's a 'recent' member here (almost) with the same handle that I thought was you...

Richard (RKN77) already came around. Now if JayPatches can make a cameo, author and creator of the 'Ice Princess' saga, it'll definitely be a blast from the past!
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« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2019, 11:14:14 AM »
That's funny GQ, Richard was the one who told me about this thread.


I'm visiting Lysander and we're all hanging out together here in Lost Wages.




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« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2019, 11:38:42 AM »
That's funny GQ, Richard was the one who told me about this thread.


I'm visiting Lysander and we're all hanging out together here in Lost Wages.



Awesome CG! Wifey's (one of) favorite place, Sin City! We both discovered the 'fun' (Heaven forbid!) in those $10/$15 Blackjack tables (#!@#!) .
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« Reply #41 on: Yesterday at 03:47:43 PM »
GQ, teach your wife to count cards. Maybe you'll be able to pull in 400k on a weekend like those MIT guys. ;)

Many years ago, my brother purchased an expensive card-counting device that strapped to his leg with a special pair of shoes that had toe switches to input every card played. The machine would vibrate when the count was favorable. Despite this advantage, he never won a huge amount of money because of the high variability of multi-deck tables and the large bankrolls needed to fully press that advantage. Eventually, he started getting nervous when pit bosses would walk over and stand next to him, scrutinizing every movement. Those were the days when it was still possible to be taken to a back room for a "discussion."


 

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