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High speed trains in Moscow.
« on: October 08, 2018, 02:40:34 AM »
Has anyone taken a high speed train out of Moscow e.g. Sapsan, Lastochka, or Strizh? Iíve never been on one.

Iím going to Vladimir but from the photos Iíve seen there does not seem to be enough room for 2 pcs of baggage anywhere Ė unlike the old trains that Iíve ridden on in the past.
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Re: High speed trains in Moscow.
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2018, 03:44:06 AM »
Firstly the Sapsan ( Peregrine Falcon, ) and ласточка ( Swallow) are very different types of train ..

The former is a high speed intercity train and the latter a modern day ( airy) suburban train that is used all over Russian ( example) Krasnda to Sochi ( Adler) and the mountain resorts


I've never used the former as I had my car and so used a sleeper from Moscow to Piter where my car was on the same train

This video shows the interior of the Sapsan - the lass in the vid reckons that there's enough space - even in peak times - for luggage ... esp if travelling First Class :)



The Swallow is roomy and has plenty of space for luggage




The стриж ( Swift ) - I've never travelled on one as they are confined to two routes I've not used
info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strizh_(train)

They are just the wagons  / carriages - unlike the others which have power units front and back and can be joined to make longer trains with multiple power units

If you want to sleep on a Russian train there are old fashioned wagons ( carriages) -single storey and modern double-deckers - wifi tends to be more reliable - but more costly travel on the d/deckers










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Re: High speed trains in Moscow.
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2018, 10:17:34 PM »
Thank you msmob
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Re: High speed trains in Moscow.
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2018, 12:01:31 AM »
High speed trains have overhead and/or luggage compartment in each carriage. Pictures and video don't show much.
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Re: High speed trains in Moscow.
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2018, 11:30:57 PM »
You still may have to pay for additional bags, but I have found that often on the newer commuter trains nobody checks.


There are bins, some look like oversize coat racks and often located in the middle of each wagon, or on the ends in some wagons. Just follow the crowd as everyone is bringing a bag, or two, or five....
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Re: High speed trains in Moscow.
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2018, 02:09:01 AM »
Instead of waiting until I'm there, I am thinking of buying my tickets online to reserve a timeline schedule. Any draw-backs to this idea?
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Re: High speed trains in Moscow.
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2018, 02:15:43 AM »
Instead of waiting until I'm there, I am thinking of buying my tickets online to reserve a timeline schedule. Any draw-backs to this idea?

One might be that I believe there's a 90 day in the future limit  - at least online? ((

http://pass.rzd.ru/tickets/public/en?STRUCTURE_ID=704&layer_name=e3-route#

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Re: High speed trains in Moscow.
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2018, 01:49:29 PM »
Instead of waiting until I'm there, I am thinking of buying my tickets online to reserve a timeline schedule. Any draw-backs to this idea?


Actually a good idea. Some trains either sell out a few days prior, or the seating arrangement you want is gone if you wait to buy at the station.


For Russia and Ukraine there are 90 limits, meaning that tickets are only sold up to 90 days before the travel date, as advised by msmob.
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Re: High speed trains in Moscow.
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2018, 04:35:38 PM »

Actually a good idea. Some trains either sell out a few days prior, or the seating arrangement you want is gone if you wait to buy at the station.


Also, many times the price goes up as you get closer to travel day, if not sold out, train or class.
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Re: High speed trains in Moscow.
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2018, 01:29:55 AM »
VERY good point...    Buying ahead is worth it ...  but why not consider flying ...   Although I'm a train nut, having done it - it's SO much easier - esp if you don't understand much Russian - to fly ;)
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Re: High speed trains in Moscow.
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2018, 11:32:16 PM »
Normally I would fly to save time but in this case there are no flights available. Fortunately I found very good seat arrangements on rzd.ru going both ways at the times I want and at a good price - same seat number and car number going both ways on Lastochka. All is good.
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