Ever had a chance to look through her unlocked phone

[Jamesukjames]

Off topic but a work Colleague in the UK who is a scruge doesn't want to spend money on women so he salsa dances well and gives lifts home to women whose husbands aren't interested in going to salsa despite being asked multiple times. So while he watches tv and drinks beer she dances and has a ride on the back seat of a car on the way home.  He has had countless wives this way.  I personally have been offered 7 affairs which I refused telling the woman imagine a hand grenade going off in your kitchen when your husband finds out.

[lyndontom]

Off topic but a work Colleague in the UK who is a scruge doesn't want to spend money on women so he salsa dances well and gives lifts home to women whose husbands aren't interested in going to salsa despite being asked multiple times. So while he watches tv and drinks beer she dances and has a ride on the back seat of a car on the way home.  He has had countless wives this way.  I personally have been offered 7 affairs which I refused telling the woman imagine a hand grenade going off in your kitchen when your husband finds out.

Personally, I've never seen any excitement in it. There are enough attractive, single girls anywhere (yes, even here in the UK) to not need to be with someone else's woman. Simply not worth the hassle and imagine if the shoe was on the other foot. At least I can keep my conscience clean. If a marriage or family falls apart, it doesn't need to be something I contributed to and if the lady is prepared to cheat on her husband, she's not particularly someone I'd feel empathy for.

[Jamesukjames]

As trench predicted this g f I'm with just doesn't get that she can't be sitting with me texting hearts to another UK guy.  And she's trying to turn it on me.  Even a big parking dent at the gym was because I raised the subject of the other guy.  So I'm as trench would say on a learning exercise.  Only hope the o g does not read this forum.

[lyndontom]

As trench predicted this g f I'm with just doesn't get that she can't be sitting with me texting hearts to another UK guy.  And she's trying to turn it on me.  Even a big parking dent at the gym was because I raised the subject of the other guy.  So I'm as trench would say on a learning exercise.  Only hope the o g does not read this forum.

So...simple question? What the heck are you still doing there? Trench didn't predict anything, other than he'd be sat there pretending nothing was wrong. Go to Kiev, go to Sumy, go to Kharkov. Stop being a wuss and salvage what you have left of your trip.

[ML]

James,  you said you were 'sledging in the lift.'

So nothing to do with sledding in snow.

There is usually not any snow in an elevator.

That's what I don't understand.

[Jamesukjames]

Lyndon   totally agree.  Think I'll relocate to kiev and work it out from there.  Unless you have a better suggestion.  No pun all dirty clothes in washing machine for a clean get away

[Jamesukjames]

We sledged in snow outside.  In elevator up to apartment I joked about hearts in texts

[John Gaunt]

We sledged in snow outside.  In elevator up to apartment I joked about hearts in texts

So that’s the some total of your conversation about the future or not of your relationship with this woman?
Man up and tell her straight instead of slinking away with your tail between your legs.
Oh, and stop giving oxygen to Trench who thinks his wordy posts convince anyone he knows which end his arse is.

[Jamesukjames]

Of course not John multiple conversations but it just poisons the air.  I'm being very calm and polite about this as it's the third time this has happened to me.  With wife of 21 years I went off like a bomb.  With 3 year relationship I went off like a grenade.  This time more like a gentle interview.

[msmob]

Off topic but a work Colleague in the UK who is a scruge doesn't want to spend money on women so he salsa dances well and gives lifts home to women whose husbands aren't interested in going to salsa despite being asked multiple times. So while he watches tv and drinks beer she dances and has a ride on the back seat of a car on the way home.  He has had countless wives this way.  I personally have been offered 7 affairs which I refused telling the woman imagine a hand grenade going off in your kitchen when your husband finds out.

James,

 you seem to have major trust issues

Your scrooge friend is probably full of it ...

I've done Salsa and his type is SO predictable ...

[Jamesukjames]

Salsa I can never do that false step .  Too much building and lifting hips too seized.

[John Gaunt]

Of course not John multiple conversations but it just poisons the air.  I'm being very calm and polite about this as it's the third time this has happened to me.  With wife of 21 years I went off like a bomb.  With 3 year relationship I went off like a grenade.  This time more like a gentle interview.

Then even more so, it begs the question as to why you’re still there and what your motives are?

[lyndontom]

Then even more so, it begs the question as to why you’re still there and what your motives are?

Give him chance, he's getting his washing done!! 

[John Gaunt]

Give him chance, he's getting his washing done!! 

Yeah, they probably need a good wash after all that bexercise.....

[msmob]

FFS guys

This is James' experience and I'd rather read his experiences without your collective 'helpful comments' .....   

Most of us crave company ...

[lyndontom]

FFS guys

This is James' experience and I'd rather read his experiences without your collective 'helpful comments' .....   

Most of us crave company ...

Crave company? Are you suggesting he stay in a miserable situation because there's at least a woman by his side?

[John Gaunt]

FFS guys

This is James' experience and I'd rather read his experiences without your collective 'helpful comments' .....   

Most of us crave company ...

Bog off Moby, you’re the biggest polluter of threads going.

[Jamesukjames]

Chill guys she had a conversation with o g from the bedroom while I'm in kitchen.  Alarm set for 6 am .   Nice early start for  kiev.

[John Gaunt]

Chill guys she had a conversation with o g from the bedroom while I'm in kitchen.  Alarm set for 6 am .   Nice early start for  kiev.

Have you told her yet or is that something for the morning as well, after you get your leg over tonight?

[Trenchcoat]

How many ? How many ?

Oh I see your one of these 'how many' guys. The type of guy that gets with a load of mingers and doesn't care because it racks up his 'how many' total so he can big himself up to other guys who of course will not have tge visual of a monger in their head when you tell them of your 'how many' exploits.

Lyndon, I've never bothered with 'how many' it's never interested me just to use it to big myself up to others. For me it has always been quality not quantity. I have my standards and I don't drop them in order to just go for anyone, that's just not me. If I don't get what I want I don't bother. A minger would never do it for me so it's pointless, in fact I would find it degrading to be with one. So no I'm not one for impressing the lads with the 'Ive had so many' so 'I'm all that' but 'I'm not going to tell you lot they were as ugly as sin'. No I wish to spend my time where it counts which is going after top quality women I am actually attracted to. If I don't get that many it doesn't bother be as much as wasting my time chasing low quality women in the UK or elsewhere, I am happy to leave that up to you

[lyndontom]

Oh I see your one of these 'how many' guys. The type of guy that gets with a load of mingers and doesn't care because it racks up his 'how many' total so he can big himself up to other guys who of course will not have tge visual of a monger in their head when you tell them of your 'how many' exploits.

Lyndon, I've never bothered with 'how many' it's never interested me just to use it to big myself up to others. For me it has always been quality not quantity. I have my standards and I don't drop them in order to just go for anyone, that's just not me. If I don't get what I want I don't bother. A minger would never do it for me so it's pointless, in fact I would find it degrading to be with one. So no I'm not one for impressing the lads with the 'Ive had so many' so 'I'm all that' but 'I'm not going to tell you lot they were as ugly as sin'. No I wish to spend my time where it counts which is going after top quality women I am actually attracted to. If I don't get that many it doesn't bother be as much as wasting my time chasing low quality women in the UK or elsewhere, I am happy to leave that up to you

Haha, classic. Now trying to tell us I date mingers and you never date because you're highly selective. Probably going to hand out advice for dating in other continents you've never even been to next.

The question of 'how many' wasn't asked to start a bragging contest; it was to emphasise that you have ZERO basis to be handing out dating or marriage advice to anyone.  I'm not worried about me, so neither should you be. You might want to be more concerned with your own 'game' and non-existent social skills.

[msmob]

Bog off Moby, you’re the biggest polluter of threads going.

When it comes to TRs - I believe even I can rein myself in - you might like to try it .....

Let's not have another of your I bust bollox nonsense diversions, please ?

Crave company? Are you suggesting he stay in a miserable situation because there's at least a woman by his side?

No, I'm simply answering your question about why James gets back on the horse after his previous experiences .....

[John Gaunt]

When it comes to TRs - I believe even I can rein myself in - .....

I’ll believe that when I see it......

Let's not have another of your I bust bollox nonsense diversions, please ?

The Queens English pls.

[Boethius]

So James, what have you learned from this?


You didn't know this woman well, yet were already moving to marriage - not that it can't work, but it's a long shot with individuals who have been married previously.  With FSUW who are divorced, you really need to ask why they are divorced, and watch their behaviours closely.


The better half says about 70% of Ukrainians are exactly like this woman.   So, when you are extolling the virtues of single mothers, who for the most part, have difficult lives in Ukraine, you have to ask yourself a lot of questions.


The other issue with single mothers is whether the fathers will grant permission for their children to leave.  It has been an issue even for men on this forum, even with UM not involved in the child's life.


This post was composed without the aid of google.

[Chelseaboy]

James,

            A friend of mine had a terrible time trying to find a sincere woman in Ukraine..and he dated over a hundred.


He did bring one back to the UK,but when she was visiting her mother in Ukraine she cheated on him with a Ukrainian guy.


After years of trying he finally switched his attention to Colombia and Dominican republic and he's happily married to a girl from Colombia..and they now have a son.He does speak Spanish very well,which helped of course.


May be a good option for you...and for Trench too.