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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2019, 11:47:02 AM »
Not even socioeconomic issues.  Most young FSUM are not alcoholics/drug addicts/mentally unhealthy.  Some may be unemployed, but I knew young UM who were unemployed, yet always had women, often, women who were supporting them.


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That is probably true, same happens here, usually I think when a guy is the uber personality type they can use that to attract some women and hit on them all the time. They know what to say to women and when as a natural instinct. I think in general though fir most other UM they are out of luck if unemployed particularly with the more materialI stuck women. Some girls may of course take anything rather than nothing and just accept that they will have the burden if supporting him if they have the means to do so.
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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2019, 11:55:24 AM »
That is probably true, same happens here, usually I think when a guy is the uber personality type they can use that to attract some women and hit on them all the time. They know what to say to women and when as a natural instinct. I think in general though fir most other UM they are out of luck if unemployed particularly with the more materialI stuck women. Some girls may of course take anything rather than nothing and just accept that they will have the burden if supporting him if they have the means to do so.


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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2019, 11:56:49 AM »
Having said that she's just gone off to the gym and in the UK people would be falling of running machines.  Awesome looks but deadly.

Well I was walking around the city of London yesterday. Many career women there and I kind of git the impression they would act pretty vicious in a relationship and give short shrift if you got on the wrong side of them, or even the right side of them.

I still kind of think it could be a question of how to handle this girl. I think thing to do if you're still unsure is to not commit but not dump her. I assume she is not asking for commitment from you. So you lose nothing by just leaving it open, you can find out how she is over time, not communicate unless you want to/when you want to, turn up whenever you like if you happen to be in the area/when you want some ;) I mean if she's that hot :)
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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2019, 12:26:20 PM »
I think in general though fir most other UM they are out of luck if unemployed particularly with the more materialI stuck women. Some girls may of course take anything rather than nothing and just accept that they will have the burden if supporting him if they have the means to do so.

What you think, and what is reality, are very distinct.  Most relationships are not built on money.

Well I was walking around the city of London yesterday. Many career women there and I kind of git the impression they would act pretty vicious in a relationship and give short shrift if you got on the wrong side of them, or even the right side of them.

I still kind of think it could be a question of how to handle this girl. I think thing to do if you're still unsure is to not commit but not dump her. I assume she is not asking for commitment from you. So you lose nothing by just leaving it open, you can find out how she is over time, not communicate unless you want to/when you want to, turn up whenever you like if you happen to be in the area/when you want some ;) I mean if she's that hot :)

It appears, with some caveats, that he is looking for a long term relationship, not just a hot piece of tail.

In any event, given your vast experience with women, do you really think you are the person to be providing advice to anyone on relationships?

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« Last Edit: January 08, 2019, 12:41:11 PM by Boethius »
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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2019, 01:04:02 PM »
What you think, and what is reality, are very distinct.  Most relationships are not built on money.

It appears, with some caveats, that he is looking for a long term relationship, not just a hot piece of tail.

In any event, given your vast experience with women, do you really think you are the person to be providing advice to anyone on relationships?

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Well I was right on how she would react when James told her he knew about the other guy.

James apparently does want a long term serious relationship. It may turn out that this girl turns ok if he leaves it open. It's apparent he finds her real hot so why not. In the meantime he can see what else comes along.
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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2019, 01:09:29 PM »
If you want to score 1 night tinder dates, then yes, pour as much money as you can to look great and a gym membership with personal trainer.

The most powerful aphrodisiacs are fame, power, and money, mostly in that order.  And charisma is mostly based on strength of character.  Looks help, but an airhead is interesting only for so long.

No doubt true. I'm not really talking of pushing it out big time on the look great/gym front - some of that yes - so use of the gym day at least once a week and some money towards looks, clothes, some minimal slight cosmetic work where reasonable. Just really to offset the negatives that tend to come with older age. Means to support would of course still be needed.
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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2019, 01:27:31 PM »
Well I was right on how she would react when James told her he knew about the other guy.

James apparently does want a long term serious relationship. It may turn out that this girl turns ok if he leaves it open. It's apparent he finds her real hot so why not. In the meantime he can see what else comes along.

She is not wife material. James knows this.

As for plastic surgery, it is always visible and I only know one man who has had Botox which hasn’t made him look like a freak.

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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2019, 01:46:22 PM »
She is not wife material. James knows this.

As for plastic surgery, it is always visible and I only know one man who has had Botox which hasn’t made him look like a freak.

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A lot of people go overboard with it. I think it's probably best to leave it so some reasonably small lines still exist say like around the eyes. Apparently it's not a permanent situation so if it doesn't look right all returns to usual in a couple of years or so.
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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2019, 02:37:12 PM »
A lot of people go overboard with it. I think it's probably best to leave it so some reasonably small lines still exist say like around the eyes. Apparently it's not a permanent situation so if it doesn't look right all returns to usual in a couple of years or so.

Years? Botox only lasts 4-6 months......
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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2019, 02:49:31 PM »
If you date f s u better to save money on BOTOX and spend it on viagra although cialis   is better.

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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2019, 04:21:41 PM »
My wife is upset with me. I'm 22 years older than her, she's in her 40s, yet I still have a full head of hair with no grey hair and she has grey hair. She gets her hair professionally colored every so often. Apparently getting it done professionally means it lasts much longer.

Doctors can't seem to agree on whether or not women go grey earlier than men but from personal experience of the people I know around my age there's not a single woman who hasn't gone grey yet I know a few men who don't have any grey hair.

Of course women say the reason they go grey earlier is that they have children then spend their lives as the primary care givers to those children and the rest of the family.

Being a lawyer I point out the fallacy in their statement. There are women who have never had children and never been care givers for family members and yet still go grey in their 30s and 40s. Of course the ultimate response from women is that men go bald and women generally don't.

So who's gone bald and who has grey hair?

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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2019, 04:45:02 PM »
If anyone wants and can afford cosmetic surgery to fix something I say, go for it.
DYOR before deciding. Lots of horror stories and there's no way I'd even remotely consider liposuction after reading this (not that I would have):

http://roguehealthandfitness.com/dangers-of-liposuction/

Not to mention costs involved. Better off to focus on health and fitness, if you are healthier then you will generally look better.

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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2019, 05:26:31 PM »
DYOR before deciding. Lots of horror stories and there's no way I'd even remotely consider liposuction after reading this (not that I would have):

http://roguehealthandfitness.com/dangers-of-liposuction/

Not to mention costs involved. Better off to focus on health and fitness, if you are healthier then you will generally look better.

I personally would never bother with liposuction, the fat can be easily be gotten rid of by a healthy diet and exercise. I think people that are too lazy to bother with that would'nt see long lasting results with liposuction.

Other facoal therapies need to thought about and researched carefully I think and people not to go overboard.

However I think once someone reaches a certain age day around 40 it's fair enough to consider it. I've heard some people do it even in their twenties/late teens which is usually a bit silly I find.

I still think it's something for us older guys to consider. The initial impression at the extreme end of some real tired worn out guy sitting down opposite a hot girl in her late twenties, early thirties, etc having been told 'hey well he's not a millionaire but he has a fair few bob even still' probably isn't the greatest prospect for a girl. For the more materialistic girl who would consider it a goer thoughts probably move to a shopping spree occasion pretty quickly.

I think if a girl can consider a guy as a prospect for something other than a payment card marriage that includes stuff she's actually into then that could be a better basis for a long term serious relationship.
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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2019, 10:18:10 PM »
Trench is now an 'expert' in cosmetic surgery, too ? )))


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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2019, 12:08:08 AM »
Trench go to the gym twice a day lift heavy or get a job that's  the equivalent of going to the gym.  Learn to love yourself.  Maybe you need a testosterone injection .

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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2019, 12:10:53 AM »
Trench is now an 'expert' in cosmetic surgery, too ? )))
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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2019, 07:54:23 AM »
My wife is upset with me. I'm 22 years older than her, she's in her 40s, yet I still have a full head of hair with no grey hair and she has grey hair. She gets her hair professionally colored every so often. Apparently getting it done professionally means it lasts much longer.

Doctors can't seem to agree on whether or not women go grey earlier than men but from personal experience of the people I know around my age there's not a single woman who hasn't gone grey yet I know a few men who don't have any grey hair.

Of course women say the reason they go grey earlier is that they have children then spend their lives as the primary care givers to those children and the rest of the family.

Being a lawyer I point out the fallacy in their statement. There are women who have never had children and never been care givers for family members and yet still go grey in their 30s and 40s. Of course the ultimate response from women is that men go bald and women generally don't.

So who's gone bald and who has grey hair?

My Ex started going grey around 40. and also needed professional colorings. Beautiful women want to stay beautiful, and she wanted to keep her platinum blonde with natural highlight look. It was such a complex look, she needed a once a month 3 hr appt. I guess I should mention this as a caveat for men, FSU women will spend A LOT more on hair, clothes and cosmetics as they age

Me? Im not grey, but salt n pepper. My barber claims I have the look that all his clients want, but its not like Im being rushed by beautiful women. I have been set up with a few so so women, but its hard to take up an attraction after my FSU experience

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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2019, 09:01:25 AM »
Genmish if your wife was so good why are you divorced.  Im divorced but i just dont get The divorce culture.  In my case my ex wife turned 40 at the party someone gave her a book of things you should do before 40 and it seemed she suddenly decided to work her way through the book including having an affair.

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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2019, 10:06:05 AM »
...ah..so it's the books fault ? !...


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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2019, 10:10:06 AM »
My wife is upset with me. I'm 22 years older than her, she's in her 40s, yet I still have a full head of hair with no grey hair and she has grey hair. She gets her hair professionally colored every so often. Apparently getting it done professionally means it lasts much longer.

Doctors can't seem to agree on whether or not women go grey earlier than men but from personal experience of the people I know around my age there's not a single woman who hasn't gone grey yet I know a few men who don't have any grey hair.

Of course women say the reason they go grey earlier is that they have children then spend their lives as the primary care givers to those children and the rest of the family.

Being a lawyer I point out the fallacy in their statement. There are women who have never had children and never been care givers for family members and yet still go grey in their 30s and 40s. Of course the ultimate response from women is that men go bald and women generally don't.

So who's gone bald and who has grey hair?

My wife hates going Grey. She started going grey in her late 30's before we met. She colors her hair constantly. I never knew this until after we married lol. I'm 54 and am now starting to get a good amount of grey yet my hair is still predominantly brown
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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2019, 10:21:04 AM »
Genmish if your wife was so good why are you divorced.  Im divorced but i just dont get The divorce culture.  In my case my ex wife turned 40 at the party someone gave her a book of things you should do before 40 and it seemed she suddenly decided to work her way through the book including having an affair.

Jeff Bezos, CEO of Amazon, just announced his divorce today. He put out a touchy feely statement saying that both would spend the last 25 years the same all over again. While I see that point of view, I am sure he like me would do things different. But I think we had a similar issue, too much time away from our spouse as we grew older. If I did it again, I would play far less golf and spend that time with her. That way we would have been closer and she wouldn't have been so influenced from her divorcee friends that really painted a glamourous lifestyle of being divorced with the means to do what she wanted when they wanted. Empty nest syndrome is not that different from the male mid life crisis

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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2019, 11:20:12 AM »
My wife is upset with me. I'm 22 years older than her, she's in her 40s, yet I still have a full head of hair with no grey hair and she has grey hair.

My much younger wife also is getting grey hair at about the same rate as me.
And, she actually has a little bit more wrinkling around corner of eyes than me which she finds amazing (my lack of that is).
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Re: Holding back the years
« Reply #47 on: January 09, 2019, 11:23:35 AM »
. . . the fat can be easily be gotten rid of by a healthy diet and exercise.

This is not true.

People vary tremendously.

Some people can easily gain and lose fat; while others can NEVER get rid of some fat without it being cut out/off.

A person can lose weight and be skin and bones . . . except for a roll of fat around middle.
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« Reply #48 on: January 09, 2019, 11:25:00 AM »
  Maybe you need a testosterone injection .

That will lead to enlargement of prostate and peeing troubles.
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« Reply #49 on: January 09, 2019, 11:41:17 AM »

True enough.  But, my point was, that if she is as stunningly beautiful as you describe,
some wealthy UM would have either married or sponsored her.

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I mostly agree,

Beauty is highly subjective and one man's stunner is another mans plain Polina.
To many in the West, just being slim is considered beautiful all on it's own. So
a young woman in the East who has a very fit body with top 20% in looks along
with a youth might be rated significantly higher by a Western man who is 15+
years older than any girl he would normally be dating. That same girl might
be be rated by her peers as slightly above average and some rich local man
might not even glance at her.

Also as you've alluded to above, UM can spot a UW with serious mental or character
defects far easier than a starry eyed Western man. The West might have 50 times
more women taking medication for their mental health (or lack thereof) but the
West doesn't have a monopoly on cRaZy/she-devils/lunatics/etc.

« Last Edit: January 09, 2019, 11:44:41 AM by 2tallbill »
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