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Re: Are you Marriage Material, or Divorce Material?
« Reply #50 on: February 11, 2019, 05:48:44 PM »
“Shooting the messenger, when you don't like the message?”

no, let’s be perfectly clear, NO ONE HERE LIKES THE MESSENGER!!!!!!
you should be used to this reaction to your personality by now...
and as a consequence the amount an amoeba drinks each day is a hell of a lot more than anyone on this board thinks about your quaint hillbilly customs and language taught to you by granny and uncle jed!!! 

look jethro, the bar in ukraine is set low, real low...
instead of a 1/4 mile with hurdles
you have two steps and a piece of string to walk over
and what did you do?
you took one step forward, two steps backward and then fell over on your ass in a puddle of your own urine
the only way to do worse than you would be to take two steps backwards and then have uncontrollable violent diarrhea in front of a crowd of hundreds of people while wearing white pants!
the HUMILIATION...
"please granny, don't beat me, I won't touch my PEE PEE no more!!!"
this is YOU!!!!


dewd, I think we can safely assume beyond a reasonable measure of doubt that nature just flat out doesn’t support the idea of you EVER reproducing...
god’s seed has fallen on barren ground and i'm sure you're spillin plenty of your seed as well, ewwwww... over 20 years, since the last time I did that, probably what, 20 minutes ago for you?

bee farmer,
you know what I'm tellin you is true
guys who are lonely and socially isolated tend to masturbate a LOT, right???
imagine the "mental effects" of doing that year in and year out, over and over and over and over
you know that instead of having sex the natural way, the way GOD INTENDED but intead do it in an "unnatural way"
that it's a sin, right?????
Book of Genesis chapter 38
Onanism
BeeFarmer from now on EVERY single time you spill your seed
I want the words, "IT'S A SIN!!!!" to flash in your mind...
cuz the bible sez you're a sinner bee boy, and you're gonna BURN...
sizzle..sizzle...
HAHAHAHAHA, see you in HELL bee boy HAHAHAHA!!!!

PS
bee boy
do you realize you've received more sexual gratification from the hand of a man than you have received from a woman
so what does that make YOU bee boy!!!
I can just imagine the twisted little fantasies that go on in your fevered brain each night before you go to bed
a life of quiet desperation and deep frustration topped off with a thick layer of denial

PS II
bee boy,
if your experience of sexual gratification has not EXCLUSIVELY been accomplished by you stroking yourself, not only physically with your pudgy little hand flying up and down faster than a 2 stroke cylinder fueled by straight nitro, but mentally as well with god only knows what dark twisted images pulled out of your repressed sexual fantasies that violate EVERY known taboo...
then it has undoubtedly, and I mean undoubtedly has made up the vast majority of the total “happy moments"

and guess what bee bee boy
you know the old wive’s tale that excessive masturbation can cause “mental enfeeblement”
maybe...
maybe, they were right...





« Last Edit: February 12, 2019, 05:20:19 AM by krimster2 »
вы думаете, что любой из этих людей, даже российских, подозревает, что я русский?

вот как я могу создать американскую личность
Я могу взять напрокат

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Re: Are you Marriage Material, or Divorce Material?
« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2019, 06:45:14 PM »
The data is from the National Survey of Family Growth, which surveyed individuals.
This was not a survey of couples.  The only way your argument would be valid is if it was a survey of couples.

The proof is in the pudding.  Do you know what that means?  Kinda debunks your assertion, doesn't it?

Shooting the messenger, when you don't like the message?

Where have I instructed people how to live their lives? (ie, driving a car)  I do believe in giving people facts, and letting them make their own decisions.


1) Really?  You just spouted numbers without references.  Your data states all second marriages - what is the definition of "all"?  Link please, no more hearsay.

2) What?  More nonsense from you?  What pudding, what proof?  Are you Bill Cosby?  And if you want to seem scientific, at the very least list and link to specific sources, not just random internet data.  National Survey of Family Growth has many studies and publications - which ones specifically?

3) You have no message.  Your title is Are you marriage or divorce material.  All you've delivered was data on people who are married or divorce.  So your message is if you are married you are marriage material and if you are divorced you are divorce material?  Are you kidding me?

4)  Is your memory that bad?  Didn't you go on a rant about someone divorced and marrying again is like drinking and driving again?  Wasn't your point of that diatribe to tell people to don't get married a second (or third) time? 

I was going to say go back to your books but that would be giving you too much credit.  Go back to your internet and come back when you've actually connected with someone and had some real experience.  And I mean that sincerely.  Connect with real women, find the right relationship for you rather than endlessly surfing and pondering.

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Re: Are you Marriage Material, or Divorce Material?
« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2019, 10:59:17 PM »
Bee Farmer - Your views on marriage and divorce coalesce a figure devoid of intimate relationships. In other words, ignorance. It's no surprise others provide condescending feedback to your questionable hypotheses. There's value in being both "book smart" and "street smart", but relationships require more of the latter. That is, experience.

The best golfers end up in bunkers or lose their balls to water holes - sometimes even miss the cut, and still win tournaments. You're trying to provide advice to experienced golfers when you've never picked up a club. Get in the game. You'll have air swings, whack up mounds of dirt, maybe even feel stupid - but it's the only way to start.

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Re: Are you Marriage Material, or Divorce Material?
« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2019, 12:47:53 AM »
Bee Farmer - Your views on marriage and divorce coalesce a figure devoid of intimate relationships. In other words, ignorance. It's no surprise others provide condescending feedback to your questionable hypotheses. There's value in being both "book smart" and "street smart", but relationships require more of the latter. That is, experience.

The best golfers end up in bunkers or lose their balls to water holes - sometimes even miss the cut, and still win tournaments. You're trying to provide advice to experienced golfers when you've never picked up a club. Get in the game. You'll have air swings, whack up mounds of dirt, maybe even feel stupid - but it's the only way to start.

Astounding  riposte ...Bang on target.

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Re: Are you Marriage Material, or Divorce Material?
« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2019, 05:51:54 AM »
I WAS gonna say that...

have you ever seen how an animal that has been abused by its owner behaves?
this is how bee boy behaves!

so who was it that beat you bee boy, granny or uncle jed?
my money’s on granny and that this wretchedly cruel woman probably made you cut your own “long", “thick" hickory switches, and then she pulled down “your drawers” and wacked that skinny little white ass of yours as hard as she could!
I wonder how many times this happened?
sometimes did granny do this to you in front of other kids?
did the little girls all giggle and point at your “you know what”? hmmmm...???

I can certainly see how dealing with this early child hood trauma
could impair your sexual development

now, if you claim my analysis of the origin of your undeveloped sexual behavior is incorrect
then please provide an alternate explanation that explains your behavior better than the one I have just presented...
or just be silent and this will be your tacit acceptance of your wretchedness...

do remember bee boy, you came at me first
and you missed by a mile
my aim is VERY MUCH MORE ACCURATE, don't you agree?

« Last Edit: February 12, 2019, 11:44:05 AM by krimster2 »
вы думаете, что любой из этих людей, даже российских, подозревает, что я русский?

вот как я могу создать американскую личность
Я могу взять напрокат

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Re: Are you Marriage Material, or Divorce Material?
« Reply #55 on: February 14, 2019, 12:28:22 AM »
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I'm saying that divorced people will never fight to overcome marital problems as someone who is in their first marriage.

You have a couple of valid points then throw out stuff like this.


You have no idea if one or the other party, in either case , would try harder to
keep a marraige intact.
Statistics do not prove that one way or the other, nor would it apply to any given  couple.


You keep forgetting the crucial part,  that it only takes one person to no longer be committed to a marriage for it to fail.


I know without any doubt I'm  better equipped to handle relationship  challenges ,than in my youth.

My first wife passed away, so my lack of  experience in relationship skills, dint cause the marriage to end.

Nothing in your survey did.
I have a child I'm very proud of from that marriage, who has grown into a fine young man I admire.
We had a marraige people aspire to, and I have zero regrets other than an unfortunate accident that I wasn't involved in.


My  second marriage ended in amicable divorce,  not something you eem to really understand or condone.
I respect your convictions.

You can feel I'm an idiot for remarrying.

And I can feel your perspective is
lacking any depth.

Since I'm on my third marraige the statistics are grim.
Since neither my wife or I are statistics,  it doesn't  bother me in the least .
We have a wonderful relationship ,marraige, and family, and are blessed with an amazing child.
 I'd not experience that if going by statistical probability coupled with a crippling fear of failure. If i had allowed that to regulate my choice to  remarry, I'd certainly be an idiot.















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Re: Are you Marriage Material, or Divorce Material?
« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2019, 12:41:40 AM »
Pure speculation in my part, but I am guessing, Jumper, that your current wife was not a virgin when you married. That’s strike 3. You’re doomed.

This post was composed without the aid of google.
To love someone means to see him as God intended him. - Fyodor Dostoevksy

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Re: Are you Marriage Material, or Divorce Material?
« Reply #57 on: Yesterday at 05:54:05 PM »
bee farmer,
you know what I'm tellin you is true

What I know is that your typical MO is to hurl insults at anyone you disagree with, hoping something will stick.  Sadly, you are so far out in left field it isn't funny.

Your inferiority complex is astounding.  You resort to childish behavior in an attempt to drag others down, so you don't seem so bad by comparison.  It's really sad and pathetic that a grown person would act the way you do.  You've complained about how Ukrainians tried to take advantage of you at every opportunity.  Have you ever considered that you attracted that negative attention to yourself?  That people were like that towards you simply because you don't know how to treat people with respect?


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Re: Are you Marriage Material, or Divorce Material?
« Reply #58 on: Yesterday at 06:14:49 PM »
1) Really?  You just spouted numbers without references.  Your data states all second marriages - what is the definition of "all"?  Link please, no more hearsay

I also told you that a lot was drawn from the National Survey of Family Growth.
If you're interested in researching further, Uncle Google is your friend.  You shouldn't need me to spoonfeed you information.

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What?  More nonsense from you?  What pudding, what proof?  Are you Bill Cosby?  And if you want to seem scientific, at the very least list and link to specific sources, not just random internet data.  National Survey of Family Growth has many studies and publications - which ones specifically?

Are you not familiar with the expression, the proof is in the pudding?  Google it.

I believe there have been at least 3 NSFG surveys done.

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3) You have no message.  Your title is Are you marriage or divorce material.  All you've delivered was data on people who are married or divorce.  So your message is if you are married you are marriage material and if you are divorced you are divorce material?  Are you kidding me?

My message is not that if you are married you are marriage material, and if you are divorced you are divorce material.

The expression if one is marriage material (or divorce material) refers to someone who is not married.

I have not judged if anyone is marriage or divorce material.  What I did was present facts, with the objective of getting people to be introspective, and judge themselves with an honest eye, if they have good potential for a successful marriage, or if they are on the train tracks headed over a divorce cliff. 

I look at it as a spectrum, with having a good foundation for marriage on one end, and a high likelihood at the other end.  Most people will be somewhere in the middle, which means they should approach marriage with extreme caution, and others should approach marriage with them with extreme caution.  I look at the risk factors like red flags.  If you get very many, it seldom ends well.

It appears that you believe you are divorce material, and are transferring your emotional response to me.  In reality, your anger is properly placed at yourself if you have risk factors for divorce, as they are the consequences of your decisions.

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4)  Is your memory that bad?  Didn't you go on a rant about someone divorced and marrying again is like drinking and driving again?  Wasn't your point of that diatribe to tell people to don't get married a second (or third) time? 

The only person ranting is you.

I do believe people who are divorced are foolish (and lacking in integrity) if they pursue marriage again.
I also believe people are foolish who run up a lot of credit card debt, don't keep themselves at a healthy weight, drink excessively, chase every skirt that walks by, etc.
I also believe people have the right to act foolishly, and they will suffer the consequences.

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come back when you've actually connected with someone and had some real experience. 

I do have relationship experience.  I have never been married.  I consider that a one time thing.

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Connect with real women, find the right relationship for you rather than endlessly surfing and pondering.

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

Before you build a house, you need a solid foundation.  Otherwise, even the most beautiful of houses will fall apart.

Before you build the right relationship, you need a solid foundation to build that relationship on.  Otherwise, it will fall apart.

Single women with that solid foundation I look for are few and far between.

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Re: Are you Marriage Material, or Divorce Material?
« Reply #59 on: Yesterday at 06:27:32 PM »
Bee Farmer - Your views on marriage and divorce coalesce a figure devoid of intimate relationships. In other words, ignorance.

Then you're not reading it correctly.  I'm not devoid of intimate relationships.

Just because I don't have any tattoos doesn't mean I can't recognize the folly of getting drunk and getting a tattoo for no significant reason.

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It's no surprise others provide condescending feedback to your questionable hypotheses.

I suspect it largely has to do with the class of people.  Birds of a feather, flock together.  If you get around groups of people where divorce is very uncommon, the data I provided is widely accepted.  If you get around people who are all divorced and often have many risk factors for divorce, they want to believe they are the exception, and they are just as capable of having a successful relationship as anyone else.

I still believe that the purpose of marriage is to provide the best environment you can for the raising of children.  Once you pass the stage of having children, getting married doesn't have the same significance anymore.

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The best golfers end up in bunkers or lose their balls to water holes - sometimes even miss the cut, and still win tournaments.

That's not a very good analogy.
Let's suppose that you are going to play a couples tournament, but you have never played in a tournament before.  If you lose the tournament, you will be stricken with a non-fatal form of cancer.  It will cost you 15 or 20 years of your life, and $250,000 or more.
Who are you going to choose as a partner?  The person who keeps hitting the ball into sand traps and water holes during practice, or a person who is consistent and is in control?


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Re: Are you Marriage Material, or Divorce Material?
« Reply #60 on: Yesterday at 06:33:59 PM »
You have a couple of valid points then throw out stuff like this.


You have no idea if one or the other party, in either case , would try harder to
keep a marraige intact.
Statistics do not prove that one way or the other, nor would it apply to any given  couple.


You keep forgetting the crucial part,  that it only takes one person to no longer be committed to a marriage for it to fail.


Jumper, people who have already divorced, when the going gets tough, they will quit again.  That's just their nature.

Yes, it only takes one person for a marriage to fail...which is why it is so important to choose wisely.

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My first wife passed away, so my lack of  experience in relationship skills, dint cause the marriage to end.

Nothing in your survey did.
I have a child I'm very proud of from that marriage, who has grown into a fine young man I admire.
We had a marraige people aspire to, and I have zero regrets other than an unfortunate accident that I wasn't involved in.

My condolences on the loss of your wife.  The death of a spouse is a tragedy.

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My  second marriage ended in amicable divorce,  not something you eem to really understand or condone.
I respect your convictions.

You can feel I'm an idiot for remarrying.

And I can feel your perspective is
lacking any depth.

Since I'm on my third marraige the statistics are grim.

I don't hold it against any widow or widower for remarrying.  They honored their marriage vows.

Now I do think you are foolish for marrying a 3rd time after you got divorced from the second wife.


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Re: Are you Marriage Material, or Divorce Material?
« Reply #61 on: Yesterday at 06:38:56 PM »
Pure speculation in my part, but I am guessing, Jumper, that your current wife was not a virgin when you married. That’s strike 3. You’re doomed.

This post was composed without the aid of google.

Doomed, no.
25% of 3rd marriages stay together.
Some people are comfortable with those odds, some are not.  I suspect that the older someone is, the more they are betting the marriage will be terminated by death rather than divorce.

And just because a lady is not a virgin does not mean that she has had a lot of partners either.  Hoes definitely don't make good wives, but just because a girl is not a virgin does not make her a hoe.

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Re: Are you Marriage Material, or Divorce Material?
« Reply #62 on: Yesterday at 06:41:11 PM »
" I'm not devoid of intimate relationships."

Bee Boy your right hand has provided you with 100% of all of your "intimate relationships"
EVERYONE here sees that!!!
and that's the only  intimate relationship you're knowledgeable of...
a parrot can mimic what it hears
and you can mimic what you read
but both you and the parrot have zero comprehension... ZERO!

so pipe down boy
or granny is gonna pull down your drawers and give you a good whipping in front of the other kids again!!!!
and the girls will all wildly gesture at your little "you know what" as it bounces up and down with each stoke of the whip on your quivering behind
how humiliating for you...

you do know  that according to the Bible, masturbation is a SIN, right?????
from now on, every time you're doing it, I want you to remember this....
hopefully, this will not interfere with your enjoyment of it...

« Last Edit: Yesterday at 06:51:10 PM by krimster2 »
вы думаете, что любой из этих людей, даже российских, подозревает, что я русский?

вот как я могу создать американскую личность
Я могу взять напрокат

 

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