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Severodonetsk??
« on: February 21, 2019, 08:01:30 PM »
Not sure where to post this....... But how bad is the war fighting in Severodonetsk? I am heeding the advice of the members on here and wrapping things up with my Russian Lady Friend. But I might have found a new Ukrainian Lady. BTW completely free, she even stated she wanted to keep it by email, because she does not like others reading what she writes.

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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2019, 09:01:30 PM »
dewd, this is inside the territory of Novo Russia, an active war zone
don't think you want to be anywhere near this area...
also any woman from this area, turn your scam detector all the way to maximum!!!!

A Russian problem in your neighborhood?
who ya gonna call?
Russ Busters!
"I ain't afraid o' no Russian"!!!!


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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2019, 12:40:44 AM »
dewd, this is inside the territory of Novo Russia, an active war zone
don't think you want to be anywhere near this area...
also any woman from this area, turn your scam detector all the way to maximum!!!!

A Russian problem in your neighborhood?
who ya gonna call?
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"I ain't afraid o' no Russian"!!!!


Inside territory???? Is your mouth working faster than your brain???

Closeby , yes.
May I ask where you are getting your info?

 
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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2019, 12:58:07 AM »
Not sure where to post this....... But how bad is the war fighting in Severodonetsk? I am heeding the advice of the members on here and wrapping things up with my Russian Lady Friend. But I might have found a new Ukrainian Lady. BTW completely free, she even stated she wanted to keep it by email, because she does not like others reading what she writes.


E-mail means it ain't going anywhere. That is natural way used by girls near/in war zone area. My guess is this girl doesn't speak English well. We'll see.

 
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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2019, 02:32:12 AM »

E-mail means it ain't going anywhere. That is natural way used by girls near/in war zone area. My guess is this girl doesn't speak English well. We'll see.
speaks English fairly well, at least written, and sent a little video introduction of her self.

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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2019, 02:33:03 AM »
dewd, this is inside the territory of Novo Russia, an active war zone
don't think you want to be anywhere near this area...
also any woman from this area, turn your scam detector all the way to maximum!!!!

A Russian problem in your neighborhood?
who ya gonna call?
Russ Busters!
"I ain't afraid o' no Russian"!!!!
my scam alerters will be on high status!

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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2019, 02:47:18 AM »
There are many nice people caught up in this region through not fault of their own

I know a women from there - she has been on the dating scene for at least 15 years -  she knows what she wants and it isn't necessarily a meal ticket out - as she has tried to live with a Dutch guy

Email is less secure than whatsapp  or Viber, surely ?

We have had members enter the disputed territory




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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2019, 07:18:18 AM »
"Inside territory???? Is your mouth working faster than your brain???"

there is no official border for the Luhansk People’s Republic
the boundaries ebb and flow in accordance with the tides of war
severodonetsk was overrun by LPR forces early on but later withdrew
the city still bears extensive shell damage from this period
last year Russian heavy artillery started a forest fire just outside the city
I’m probably the only person on this board who knows the sound of an incoming 131mm Russian howitzer round, even the children of severodonetsk can identify this sound...
today the LPR front-line is roughly 10 miles away...
tomorrow...???

my sources are legion...
including a nephew in 138th Guards Brigade “on vacation” a little south east of there

dcdewd,
google these two words together
severodonetsk scammer
why so many from such a little place?
why?
because they're one of a huge army of PRO scammers who work for an "organization" in the LPR!!!!

part dva

I'm beginning to think that some of the fails going on may be due to scammers
and not just due to guys with a "total lack of play"
the best way to avoid scammers is for you to go there
and not do it online
where do you think scammers hunt?
you want to do the hunting and not the other way around and become the hunted

you guys wanna know how I saw droves of naked Ukrainian girls?
I drew little pictures!
all I did was just sit down and start painting
and it was like throwing birdseed into a flock of pigeons
here let me lay it all out for ya

Every Ukrainain City has markets of various kinds and sizes
find the biggest one
at least one side of the market will front a major street
go to this side
there will be a bus stop with benches
go sit on one and pull out drawing pad and water colors, brushes
and start painting
whatever
whoever
attire - anything BUT blue jeans and tennis shoes
recommend jacket but no tie

first thing people notice is you’re a foreigner
second is that you’re furiously painting away on something
this is a curious spectacle for most Russian people
maybe 1/4 will alter their direction so they can “slyly” check out what it is you’re painting
about 3/4 of these will be women
of these about 1/4 will be hot
and of these about 10% will linger and take more time examining the painting
and 100% of these will, if you make eye contact, try to speak some level of English with you
this at peak hours, could give as much as 10 hits per hour of 9+ wimmin
(just don't make eye contact with women who fall below the "threshold" and get good at making quick appraisals out of the corner of your eye)
of course it helps to be near a university and saturday is usually best!!!

from there, it was trivial to get them to come to dinner at my apartment and most of the time they'd end up staying the night
my wife never left!!!

PS, Russians usually like my color style!!









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« Last Edit: February 22, 2019, 10:13:48 AM by krimster2 »
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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2019, 10:23:08 AM »
Bad news:  Severodonetsk is too close to the contested border for you to safely visit.  To travel there you will have to pass multiple police and military checkpoints.  It is doable if you have a trusty Ukrainian friend to accompany you.

Good news: Kharkiv is nearby and if things work out with Ms Severodonetsk you can meet her there.  There are bus and car services she can take for not much money.  I am not sure if any train service goes to the city.


Email is fine for initial communication but try to move on to Whatsapp or Viber.  If she says she doesn't have either then she's a scammer.  Perhaps 0.001% chance she is not.


There are people in that area who are genuine, even within the separatist territory.  T's friend S is single, lives in Donetsk, and has been looking for someone for a while (over a year).  S met someone from Kyiv in November, things went well, she visited him over the holidays, but it didn't work out after a few days face-to-face. 

S is the reason T and I met - she got T to sign up for online dating.  S was only interested in local men.  T, fortunately, didn't mind searching international.


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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2019, 11:15:14 AM »
Spoke to wife about this.  She said when FSU was industrializing eastern Ukraine, many criminals were sent to the Severodonetsk and that area in general to work the mines.
Something like Australia it seems.
So even in Soviet times the Severodonetsk area was known as a center of crime.

Then, she relayed two personal experiences that supported the general notion.

A friend of hers had a daughter who was enrolled at the Law College in Kharkiv which is the best in Ukraine.  Only top students, and from supposedly 'high' families are admitted to this college.
This girl was dating a fellow student from Severodonetsk.
Eventually the girl's parents traveled to Severodonetsk to meet with the boys parents.
They returned home in shock.  Despite the boy's family being from the top society in Severodonetsk . . . they displayed a definite criminal mentality and outlook on life.

Another friend of my wife visited a sanatorium.  There she associated with another group of 'high' families from Severodonetsk, several of whom were in law enforcement.
They also displayed criminal behavior and spoke openly about how they were paid by gangs to 'look the other way.'

DC, I think you are going to be 'twice bitten.'
Winston Churchill.  “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2019, 11:48:24 AM »
dewd, this is inside the territory of Novo Russia, an active war zone
don't think you want to be anywhere near this area...
also any woman from this area, turn your scam detector all the way to maximum!!!!

Yeah,

I wouldn't even reply to somebody from this area, what I do is ONLY reply to Nigerian
princes who want me to help them with their money, that way I know it's too legit to
quit.

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FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
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There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2019, 11:51:38 AM »
Perhaps 0.001% chance she is not.

I agree
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2019, 11:55:37 AM »
My guess is this girl doesn't speak English well. We'll see.

My guess is that she is Hairy Boris
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2019, 12:24:01 PM »
Spoke to wife about this.  She said when FSU was industrializing eastern Ukraine, many criminals were sent to the Severodonetsk and that area in general to work the mines.
Something like Australia it seems.
So even in Soviet times the Severodonetsk area was known as a center of crime.

Then, she relayed two personal experiences that supported the general notion.

A friend of hers had a daughter who was enrolled at the Law College in Kharkiv which is the best in Ukraine.  Only top students, and from supposedly 'high' families are admitted to this college.
This girl was dating a fellow student from Severodonetsk.
Eventually the girl's parents traveled to Severodonetsk to meet with the boys parents.
They returned home in shock.  Despite the boy's family being from the top society in Severodonetsk . . . they displayed a definite criminal mentality and outlook on life.

Another friend of my wife visited a sanatorium.  There she associated with another group of 'high' families from Severodonetsk, several of whom were in law enforcement.
They also displayed criminal behavior and spoke openly about how they were paid by gangs to 'look the other way.'

DC, I think you are going to be 'twice bitten.'

Pretty much anyone who came from a "high" family in Soviet times (and thereafer) was/is a criminal, with the exception of artists in post Soviet society.  It's just a matter of where they believed they were in the pecking order.  They were all tied to the criminal world in one way or another.  In Soviet times, for the most part, there was no difference between a gangster and a policeman, and that hasn't changed.  Listen to Ukrainian politicians - the former Soviet nomenklatura - sometime.  They all speak like criminals.

The transfer of "criminals" to Donetsk was done for petty criminals - usually thieves, and also for those the Soviets found "unSoviet", who typically were not criminals in the sense we would describe criminals.  That type of sentence, in criminal slang, was called "khimiya" (chemistry).  The criminal had an option - go work in the region or go to prison for three or four years.  Severodonetsk was known as a police town, so everyone who was not sent there to work off a crime worked for the police.  The criminals just had to live there during the term of their sentence.  They didn't have to stay there after the sentence term.  Most criminals who went there lived in dormitories, surrounded by informants.  They had to stay on the straight and narrow, because everyone who worked in a store, in a building, etc., was an informant.  If the criminal violated the law, they were sent to prison under the terms of their original sentence, with no credit for the time served in the town.  The Soviets took this model from Nazi Germany. 

The same methods were used across the USSR, although it was only in certain regions that criminals were sent to "work off" their possible sentences.


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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2019, 05:18:44 AM »
Hang on you are replying to dc cowboy .  The high ranking f b I officer who is not allowed to Russia and now wants to visit a proper war zone.  The guy who wants to wear cowboy boots.  So a desk top fantasist who could go to Minsk or Kiev and not get all you lot typing away like minions.   But actually  it's turning into an interesting post as I'm going to dinipro and I'm interested in what scams I may fall into.

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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2019, 06:50:26 AM »
Hang on you are replying to dc cowboy .  The high ranking f b I officer who is not allowed to Russia and now wants to visit a proper war zone.  The guy who wants to wear cowboy boots.  So a desk top fantasist who could go to Minsk or Kiev and not get all you lot typing away like minions.   But actually  it's turning into an interesting post as I'm going to dinipro and I'm interested in what scams I may fall into.
lol..... Firstly I don't work for one of the agencies. I don't think cowboy boots come into play. 😂
Not saying I don't work for Marlboro. 🤣

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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2019, 08:56:32 AM »
I slept with two different demographics in Ukraine.
18-21 yr old undergrads from Taras Shevchenko Univ in Kyiv
and 23-25 yr old blue collar workers in Kyiv

the 18-21 yr olds were absolutely the most amazing eye candy you could ever imagine
and none of them were in the least bit modest about showing it
very tantalizing for someone from a quasi-puritanical culture like the one I grew up in
but..
they were not very sexually experienced, though none were virgins
also in general they were kinda lazy about “picking up after themselves”, so-so culinary skills
and almost every one was “bi-polar" which was regulated by their hormonal cycle
did not consider any of them “wife material”

the blue collar 23-25 yr olds were a VERY BIG contrast from this
emotionally stable!
almost OCD about keeping things clean
“super pooper” domestic skills of all kinds

the sexual contrast between these two demographics was also enormous!
the blue collar 23-25 yr olds were the most amazing sexual encounters I had ever had in my life!

these are “low born” social status Ukrainians, women who moved from some shack filled village to Kyiv to find some $200/month job of any kind, because there is nothing at all but growing and selling potatoes in her village for her economic future

these women lived in a single room apartment with a hot plate and a sink and a toilette
and had a communal kitchen and shower and a $200/month salary

there were rows and rows of these apartments filled with these women who worked at various “savods” all around Kyiv, thousands and thousands of them...

life is so hard for these women, competition so fierce, that the pretty ones have evolved into fierce man-eating beasts who use their sexuality for gain whenever the opportunity arises
and they are freaking INCREDIBLE at it!!!
I dunno what it is, millenia of being over run by invaders or what
but they can communicate through body language
that they welcome your “conquest”...
as eminem said in his song, “it makes my slinky go “boing, boing, boing”!!!!

these pics show the contrast between the 19 yr old demographic (first Ukrainian girl friend)
and 25 yr old demographic (my wife when I met her)

the big difference is YOU have to seduce the 18-21 year olds, but don't worry alcohol doers 90% of the work for you
but the 23-25 yr olds, THEY seduce you!!!!
you'll immediately feel it when they "turn it on"
constantly touching, constant flattery, leaning in close while making eye contact
pleading with you over some little thing, but doing it in a submissive way with downcast eyes while touching you
the more resistance you put up by ignoring them, the more they turn up the dial
eventually they will take you to the sauna, the banya
pretend you have no idea what it is, but you want to have authentic Ukrainian experiences
then when the two of you are in the changing room SURPRISE!  SHE'S COMPLETELY NAKED AND EXPECTS YOU TO BE AS WELL!!
see how slick they are, by the third date they've got you in a position
where you're sitting on a bench next to them with your willy hanging out in all its glory
in this situation, when a Ukrainian woman is displaying her naked body for the first time
they do a thing I call "presenting"
they know the impact of what they're doing is having on you while pretending "it's all perfectly innocent and natural"
they are posing in suggestive poses while making furtive glances at your willy
then when the inevitable physical reaction begins to "grow"
and you blush out of embarrassment
they will whisper into your ear, "eta horrosho" and stroke your leg soothingly...
and things lead on from there...
this is a typical Ukrainian woman seduction
but there are many kinds that I've seen
the most interesting is what I call "flashing"
get a Ukrainian girl drunk or high and if they're in a "manic mood"
they can remove their jeans and panties
and display themselves to you
just to see your reaction!!!!!
this is not at all what any western guy is used to


 



« Last Edit: February 23, 2019, 12:55:17 PM by krimster2 »
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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2019, 01:33:05 PM »
Krim I love your posts its all so familiar

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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2019, 03:19:32 PM »
Krim I love your posts its all so familiar
kims post always make my smile, and drive me on to this quest for a FSU women.

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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2019, 03:49:18 PM »
awww shucks you guys....

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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2019, 03:21:33 PM »
Things are moving along nicely with Ms. Severodonetsk we are planning on me taking a trip, in a couple of months, July probably. I have her address which I am sending flowers with a picture and her phone. She even gave me the place she worked. Things are not as a big secret as Ms. Moscow. I did find out she is using a translation service. But pays for this her self.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2019, 03:24:23 PM by DCcowboy »

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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2019, 03:38:45 PM »
Foreigners sending flowers to UW is a big business there.  A photo proves delivery, everyone gets a cut of the price, and the flowers often are sent back to the florist after the obligatory photos.


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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2019, 03:45:21 PM »
DC -- you need to be reading more closely -there no need these days to be using anyone for written  translation. EG-- Viber has a one tap translation that is near enough immediate. I can use Google translate on computer and phone to translate a word or a lengthy document or story . Google translate on phone can translate spoken words and in affect - carry out a conversation.
   The idea of 3rd party translation is a throwback to an earlier time -- and imo is very questionable. :rolleyes:
Below is an example of this post -- it is not perfect -- but gets very close thesedays.

DC - вам нужно читать более внимательно - в наши дни нет необходимости использовать кого-либо для письменного перевода. EG-- Viber имеет перевод одним нажатием, который достаточно близок к немедленному. Я могу использовать Google Translate на компьютере и телефоне, чтобы перевести слово или длинный документ или историю. Гугл переводчик по телефону может переводить произносимые слова, а в аффекте - вести разговор.
    Идея перевода третьей стороной - это возврат к более раннему времени - и ИМО очень сомнительна. :закатывать глаза:
Ниже приведен пример этого поста - он не идеален - но очень близко подходит к этим дням.

That can be done on computer or phone -- and takes about 5 seconds !
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2019, 03:53:42 PM »
Foreigners sending flowers to UW is a big business there.  A photo proves delivery, everyone gets a cut of the price, and the flowers often are sent back to the florist after the obligatory photos.


There are a few variations -- girl actually goes to florist, florist goes to girl etc etc so photo proves nothing at all.If the agency is having a good day it can maybe use the same flowers for quite a few girls !
As for address-- mmm --history shows that is an easy mislead.

DC -- none of the potential negatives is conclusive in itself -- but if I was giving odds here  - you have only a 10% chance of her being as reported.
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Severodonetsk??
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2019, 08:07:01 PM »
Also,

Please realize flowers in Ukraine is less than 1/5 the price in US.  A dozen roses can be purchased at a flower market for $2-$3.

I bought a huge bouquet for T in Lviv for about $15 - something that would have been over $100 in the States.

 

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