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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #100 on: April 10, 2019, 05:46:56 PM »
I know that Boethius feels my 'misogynist' attitudes would mean I would not be successful with FSW/women.

Correction...Any woman..and she was among the last to agree you are beyond help until you deal with your issues.

 
I am learning a lot from this endeavour, I really do feel progress is being made and a greater understanding is coming on my part. I wouldn't say I am guaranteed success or will find it but I would rather try and learn and dispel the fog of confusion that not just myself but doubtless many other guys encounter and struggle to understand.


I have yet to see any lesson learnt on your part and you still insist on giving bollox 'advice' to others who have less experience.

My opinion is that you are passing the time during your commute  and during your 'work '..

Are you studying for a degree on alienating people?))




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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #101 on: April 10, 2019, 05:50:17 PM »
I don't feel that my misogynist attitude has any real difference in this search.

Trench I might not have had any experience dating upto 4 years ago. My only date upto age 39, was hooking up with my ex near what we Aussie’s call a billabong after she come onto me at an agricultural show.... I was 14!!

It didn’t take long to realise woman our age are incredibly perceptive and have unnatural BS detectors that probably pick up tells you have no idea you’re giving off.

Some things you say most men wouldn’t, even on an anonymous forum... I’ll give you an example.... you call over weight women fatties. Any woman would take offence to this, even if she’s slim. Women stick together when men are being insulting to one of their own.

How would you feel if a man talked about your sister that way?... my sister has struggled with her weight all of her life and if you directed that towards her I’d put you on your arse!!! It’s offensive to me every time you say it here, and I’m sure even more so the women present here.

You might never say that to a woman in public, but the attitude that spawns those comments here will be picked up by woman you meet in real life, maybe not instantly, but they will eventually.

I have several attractive female friends and I’ve had boyfriends make continual sexist comments to me in private and they never last more than a month or so. The men who are true gentleman fair much better.

Today I had a deep conversation with the woman I saw recently and the biggest impression I made on her was booking a room with two beds on the first night we met. Veiwing her has a human being first and not a sexual object was my main priority and she saw that.

She was touched by my gesture and in her worlds I won her over emotionally the first night. She respected me far more than a man who put sex high on his priorities.  If I had have tried to make a move, she would have left the next morning and cut contact.

You need to be an absolute gentleman at all times, especially when spending time with the type girl you would take home to your mother. If you adopt this respectful attitude you will be rewarded for it, and win her heart emotionally.

That emotional connection is what stops you being used as a mule, dumped for another man and for women is the first stage of falling deeply in love with you. You’re doomed if you never had that connection or lost it during your marriage. I learnt that the hard way.
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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #102 on: April 10, 2019, 05:59:40 PM »
gozpedy

as I have previously informed y’all
don’t get lulled into a false sense of the familiar in Ukraine...
just because some things seem familiar, like “back home”, that it is in fact, “back home”
it ain’t...

especially when it comes to sex in Ukraine
be prepared for surprises
trip to the banyas can happen after 3rd date
it’s “no clothing” in the banya
so if you’re in need of manscaping
see to it before, cuz ya never know when the lawn is going to be on full display in high lumens
I happen to look better waxed
you guys decide for yourself
how you think you look, especially up close in a lot of light...

also
if you are REAL nice to a Ukrainian girl
and I mean REALLY nice
while she is in the middle of expressing her gratitude towards you
she will also with her index finger reach around
and perform a prostate exam in unison with the rest of her activity
this is an expression of her concern for your health
because of the prevalence of prostate cancer in Ukraine
these girls want to check the size and functioning of your prostate (this is what they told me!)
however normal this may be in Ukraine
the first time it happened to me, I was quite startled
and let out a loud shriek!!!
up until that point I was a virgin in that particular orifice

I don't know about you guys
but the last exam I had my prostate was the size of a walnut and well toned...

 





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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #103 on: April 10, 2019, 07:16:28 PM »
Correction...Any woman..and she was among the last to agree you are beyond help until you deal with your issues.

 
I have yet to see any lesson learnt on your part and you still insist on giving bollox 'advice' to others who have less experience.

My opinion is that you are passing the time during your commute  and during your 'work '..

Are you studying for a degree on alienating people?))

Mobe, this antagonism from you is really all centred on you feeling that I am encroaching upon your domain of your chosen expertise field of FSU dating. Your not the only one I've gotten at least a couple of other members nose out of joint for dare venturing an opinion contrary to yours. You need to examine the heart of your defensiveness on the subject and get some professional help.
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« Reply #104 on: April 10, 2019, 07:57:22 PM »
I forget when you are going to be in Kyiv, but you probably should skip this affair . . .

http://www.kyivpost.com/lifestyle/people/journalism-of-tolerance/hundreds-of-lesbian-activists-to-meet-in-kyiv-on-april-11-14.html
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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #105 on: April 10, 2019, 10:33:41 PM »
Thanks for such an entertaining 'wake up to post' ))

 
Mobe, this antagonism from you is really all centred on you feeling that I am encroaching upon your domain of your chosen expertise field of FSU dating.

Seems I actually got a torpedo through your thick amour..GOOD..Now stop posting bollox like the above and LISTEN... Why ask questions and NEVER learn from the answers.



Your not the only one I've gotten at least a couple of other members nose out of joint for dare venturing an opinion contrary to yours. You need to examine the heart of your defensiveness on the subject and get some professional help.

You are a prize twat..YOU need to eradicate your misogynistic tendencies before you attempt to date, let alone think of LTRs


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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #106 on: April 11, 2019, 04:12:30 AM »
TC,

Look at who agrees with you and who disagrees with you.

The only one I can think of recently who has agreed with you is Jamesukjames.  I haven't seen him around recently.

He has a similar attitude to you but 3 major things you don't:  money, some language skills, and relationship experience.  Yet so far he has failed, partly because he kept pursuing the wrong type of women against the advise of most here, and partly because the women, per Davos' comments, picked up on his attitude.

The last bit above is conjecture on my part - James has not gone into much detail about the failed relationships apart from the 2 recent ones in Ukraine.  But it makes sense from what was posted. 

When you disparage others, people wonder if the common denominator is you or the person/group you put down.  As you keep blaming others - UK girls, FSU pro daters, vacation girls, taxi fare home scammners, etc, it soon becomes apparent you are the common factor.  You don't like overweight women, women who are too ambitious, women who are too short, too tall, too attractive, not attractive enough...

FSUW an WW both soon realize there's something wrong with you.

Try baby steps. Try to develop some contact with local women - as friends.  It might be helpful for you. 

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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #107 on: April 11, 2019, 06:28:50 AM »
Trench,

lotta single moms in Kyiv in their late 20s...
no child support... no money...
these wimmin go to bed every night worried how they’re gonna feed their kid
and buy them a winter coat they desperately need...
sheeettt, I’d even get a helmet for the winter so the falling icicles don’t bore through your gullivar, I know you can get em in kid size, cuz I used to dress my daughters up as partisans for Victory Day with a kid size Soviet Army Helmet
(I painted Red Stars on them to make it look “klassne”)

nice lookin wimmin to these single moms
ya know why?
cuz the ugly ones don’t get pregnant at 17...
ONLY the really pretty ones!!!
and they’re still pretty at 27 or 28...

interesting thing about these single moms
scratch the surface of one and underneath
you will see a person with integrity
(REAL important quality to look for in a UW - I mean besides big hooters of course!)
actually, you will find few people in Ukraine with more integrity than a single mom
and the benefit of a UW with integrity is loyalty...

Trench, I don’t wanna scare ya buddy
I actually admire you and find you a sympathetic character
despite knowing the odds are against you - you try anyway!
I respect that, and others here, if they actually had the “moral superiority” that they think they do, would as well....

but, look, think about the big picture!
you’re having enormous difficulty on step 1...
what about step 34 and step 343?
by that I mean this venture doesn’t just END with you meeting someone
it only BEGINS...

living peacefully with another human being is enormously more difficult
than catching a female’s attention during her ovulation cycle

the one thing I will say that you have going for you, that IMHO puts you WAY ahead
of all most all the other single guys I’ve seen on this board is
you don’t get angry - this will help you to live with a UW - don’t EVER get angry!
and you’re NOT a narcissist
you’re just not very good looking or wealthy
and you live in a village...

I think if you’re smart you can overcome these things
you’re at least heading in the right direction...
keep trying!
two years from now Kyiv will be like the Titanic
learn to mimic a life boat and you might be surprised who you can rescue






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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #108 on: April 11, 2019, 06:46:11 AM »
TC,

Look at who agrees with you and who disagrees with you.

The only one I can think of recently who has agreed with you is Jamesukjames.  I haven't seen him around recently.

He has a similar attitude to you but 3 major things you don't:  money, some language skills, and relationship experience.  Yet so far he has failed, partly because he kept pursuing the wrong type of women against the advise of most here, and partly because the women, per Davos' comments, picked up on his attitude.

The last bit above is conjecture on my part - James has not gone into much detail about the failed relationships apart from the 2 recent ones in Ukraine.  But it makes sense from what was posted. 

When you disparage others, people wonder if the common denominator is you or the person/group you put down.  As you keep blaming others - UK girls, FSU pro daters, vacation girls, taxi fare home scammners, etc, it soon becomes apparent you are the common factor.  You don't like overweight women, women who are too ambitious, women who are too short, too tall, too attractive, not attractive enough...

FSUW an WW both soon realize there's something wrong with you.

Try baby steps. Try to develop some contact with local women - as friends.  It might be helpful for you.

Steve, there are those in this forum with similar views to me who are married in a successful LTR. They may not come out and agree with me as they probably don't want to get caught up in the arguments so much. 2tallbill for example recently posted a thread/poll on do men prefer short or long hair, long hair won by quite a number of votes along with illustrated arguments for it, misogynistic? Memory is a bit vague on this one but I believe when fat women argument have come up in the past ML, BillyB & 2tallbill, Krimster, etc all stated a preference for them not to be fat, that's just from vague memory so I might be wrong on any of the above members holding that position. Most of those in a LTR with a woman have no reason to harp on about it they are content with the situation they are in. It only features so much in many of the threads I have become involved in as some members have such an issue against it and other such preferences as mine that it often descends into an argument and goes on for far longer than I would have wished for. Yes on that point it probably is better to remain quiet both on and off the forum as few seem to want to hear the situation as is so it appears better to say nothing and let the chubby girls revell in their chubbyness with no loss of Qdos to me for pointing out the situation to others/ other half. Same with career girls etc, etc, I will just concentrate on the situation I am in seems to be the best course and ignore such topics on here and elsewhere when they come up it clearly is not worth the arguments getting into.

Moby, JayH and Nightwish have all been very argumentative on most of my posts on here, hostile it could often be said. Seems a bit of a over reaction to me just on my misogynist etc viewpoints/ideas on FSU dating. I may of course be wrong in some areas but it still surprises me how ardently they express themselves. For me it has been trying to work out what is all going on in FSU dating both socially and culturally. I do believe that a lot of progress has been made on this and some of my standpoints & questions while vexing some have gone on to some forum members providing a great insight into topics of FSU Dating many of us would be oblivious to. Let's take Krimster's explaining of how banja sex in a relationship comes about in the FSU.

First time this happened to me out there I wondered if the girl I was dating was legit. Nothing like that happens in the UK and as far as I know US, Canada, Aus, western Europe, etc. For me it f***ed with my mind that a straight up girl would do such a thing as exciting as it was. In the UK it would almost definitely mean you are with a girl who is not legit. I was indeed grateful to Krimster that he cleared that one up :) or I would still be wondering about another aspect of the girl I was with and any future girl that might go with it. When I was in there with the girl I thought to myself 'this can't be for real'. How many other guys from the west might come over such situations. Other oddities with a FSW attitude to good in restaurants etc were also answered which again can leave the western man with a lot of questions and doubts over what is really going on with the girl he is with i.e is she for real or is she playing a game and having a guy on etc.

If I and a few others didn't bring up these discussions there would be a lot less understanding of FSW on here and a lot more relationships fall apart in the early stages by not understanding what is really going on. I've noticed in the past a lot of guys meet a FSW, it's great to start with then all of a sudden goes south because they didn't really understand FSW and the way things are out there, ie Wall, dog issue, etc Yet often there seems to be an almost disproportionate hostility from some members in here over my discussions on here. I mean can some members calm down a bit and not get quite so hostile.

It's ok to show a difference of opinion, I have never had a problem with Boethius even though she disagrees with pretty much all of what I say or at least questions/remarks on stuff I post. I just don't know why a few others can't just be a bit more calmer in there approach, the noise made isn't at all helpful in discussing the matter.
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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #109 on: April 11, 2019, 06:52:38 AM »
gee Trench your mature attitude really makes your detractors look like "durrichki" in comparison
I'd say game and match to you!!!

now do this with the ladies

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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #110 on: April 11, 2019, 07:08:42 AM »
Trench,

lotta single moms in Kyiv in their late 20s...
no child support... no money...
these wimmin go to bed every night worried how they’re gonna feed their kid
and buy them a winter coat they desperately need...
sheeettt, I’d even get a helmet for the winter so the falling icicles don’t bore through your gullivar, I know you can get em in kid size, cuz I used to dress my daughters up as partisans for Victory Day with a kid size Soviet Army Helmet
(I painted Red Stars on them to make it look “klassne”)

nice lookin wimmin to these single moms
ya know why?
cuz the ugly ones don’t get pregnant at 17...
ONLY the really pretty ones!!!
and they’re still pretty at 27 or 28...

interesting thing about these single moms
scratch the surface of one and underneath
you will see a person with integrity
(REAL important quality to look for in a UW - I mean besides big hooters of course!)
actually, you will find few people in Ukraine with more integrity than a single mom
and the benefit of a UW with integrity is loyalty...

Trench, I don’t wanna scare ya buddy
I actually admire you and find you a sympathetic character
despite knowing the odds are against you - you try anyway!
I respect that, and others here, if they actually had the “moral superiority” that they think they do, would as well....

but, look, think about the big picture!
you’re having enormous difficulty on step 1...
what about step 34 and step 343?
by that I mean this venture doesn’t just END with you meeting someone
it only BEGINS...


living peacefully with another human being is enormously more difficult
than catching a female’s attention during her ovulation cycle

the one thing I will say that you have going for you, that IMHO puts you WAY ahead
of all most all the other single guys I’ve seen on this board is
you don’t get angry - this will help you to live with a UW - don’t EVER get angry!
and you’re NOT a narcissist
you’re just not very good looking or wealthy
and you live in a village...

I think if you’re smart you can overcome these things
you’re at least heading in the right direction...

Thanks Krim, you're always great to me on this board :) and I do really appreciate it. Yeah, that point has been on my mind as well it's a decent point. It's something I'm going to have to look into more before getting into a deeper relationship with a FSW as a messy break up would not be great. Possibly once in a relationship with the right girl things may naturally develop ok on the other hand issues could come up that become problematic in terms of dealing with being in a relationship. At this point I would rather just give it a go than not try. I would rather try in life and try and learn and grow then not make an attempt at all. I hear what you say and you make some good points Krim. I've learnt a fair amount along the way and some of it has been real eye opening for me so at this point I would rather try and learn some more and understand myself even more in the process as that in itself is quite fulfilling for me to understand how and why things go down for me in a relationship and the reasons for it.
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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #111 on: April 11, 2019, 07:09:39 AM »
gee Trench your mature attitude really makes your detractors look like "durrichki" in comparison
I'd say game and match to you!!!

now do this with the ladies

Much appreciated Krim, right now time for gym though ;)
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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #112 on: April 11, 2019, 04:41:38 PM »
TC,

Look at who agrees with you and who disagrees with you.


 

Steve, there are those in this forum with similar views to me who are married in a successful LTR. .

Moby, JayH and Nightwish have all been very argumentative on most of my posts on here, hostile it could often be said.

TC-- what you do not get is Steve ( & a 100+ others)  being polite and trying to redirect you  nicely.

Look at who you follow--Krim and his ridiculously out of date  dreaming of events that MAY have happened 25 years ago(or more)  and because they are roughly in line with the idiot Roosh you want to believe that BS !!

I don't have much nice to say about Moby -- but on you he has got it 100% right .Nightwish is amongst the many offended by your idiotic "thinking" ( which is entirely the wrong word to describe what goes on in your brainless skull) . You make offensive comment after offensive comment -- and cannot ever get  that you are offending people.

Nightwish  & I -- both currently are in relationships with Ukrainian women approx in the age range you specify-- and spend time in Ukraine in the here and now.- has it ever dawned on you that gives us a special insight?

Note Steve and rwd ( married)  also recent time  and ongoing.There are others who have directed their ire at you -- your response is to post back with misguided attempts to insult. By way of contrast -- you ignore the good advice and choose to go with yesterday people and their optimistic advice ( eg 2T is posting for others to learn- he gave up on you long ago like so many others)
Boethius has repeatedly  attempted to help you -your response is to aim insults at her.

 You are incapable of learning -- even factual material that does not accord with what you want to believe you discard and then want to argue about it!

 
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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #113 on: April 11, 2019, 06:13:33 PM »
TC-- what you do not get is Steve ( & a 100+ others)  being polite and trying to redirect you  nicely.

Look at who you follow--Krim and his ridiculously out of date  dreaming of events that MAY have happened 25 years ago(or more)  and because they are roughly in line with the idiot Roosh you want to believe that BS !!

I don't have much nice to say about Moby -- but on you he has got it 100% right .Nightwish is amongst the many offended by your idiotic "thinking" ( which is entirely the wrong word to describe what goes on in your brainless skull) . You make offensive comment after offensive comment -- and cannot ever get  that you are offending people.

Nightwish  & I -- both currently are in relationships with Ukrainian women approx in the age range you specify-- and spend time in Ukraine in the here and now.- has it ever dawned on you that gives us a special insight?

Note Steve and rwd ( married)  also recent time  and ongoing.There are others who have directed their ire at you -- your response is to post back with misguided attempts to insult. By way of contrast -- you ignore the good advice and choose to go with yesterday people and their optimistic advice ( eg 2T is posting for others to learn- he gave up on you long ago like so many others)
Boethius has repeatedly  attempted to help you -your response is to aim insults at her.

 You are incapable of learning -- even factual material that does not accord with what you want to believe you discard and then want to argue about it!

Just because I don't agree with what you say doesn't mean I'm incapable of learning merely that I disagree with what you have said, it has nothing to do with learning. In any case you and Nightwish rarely give advice but quickly get on here when there is a chance to deride what someone else is suggesting that is contrary to your thoughts.

Anyone that is able to spend a significant time over there is going to increase their chances a lot more. Not just in finding the one but also in lasting long time with the one they find. Unless the girl is heavily into the guy and doesn't have other options she'll be tempted by what else is around her. She's not going to put her life on hold for some guy that visits even every few weeks unless she thinks the guy is the one in some way.

I am quite happy with where I am at in this search at the moment. Of course I can benefit by learning anything I am not on top off such as that what has turned up on facial language but I have learnt a lot about dating in the FSU these past three years to give a good go at it.

I know for some like 2tallbill it has been a lot of input and some going over some points a few times. It's not an easy venture and it can take some grappling with to get the points that are brought up.

I'm happy taking the advice of Krim and others, much if it fits in with my experiences to date and a lot of it is I feel good advice. I sense they are decent guys with honest intentions and I for one am happy and grateful to learn from them.
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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #114 on: April 11, 2019, 06:19:32 PM »
"look at who you follow--Krim and his ridiculously out of date  dreaming of events that MAY have happened 25 years ago(or more) "

since you know SO MUCH about me JayH
then you know that while you were pecking away on your keyboard
I was in the pool with my wife and her blonde Ukrainian friend Olga
since they’re child hood friends they’re comfortable with their tops off in the pool with each other (and me to of course...)

Olga has magnificent boobs, not as nice as my wife’s (obligatory photo)
but nice, very pale skin
one thing led to another....

so how has your day been going so far Jay

y’know if I were you, I’d be pissed at me to...
I understand...
there's a good fellow, go and put the billy on the boil and have a cuppa...
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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #115 on: April 11, 2019, 06:27:19 PM »
"look at who you follow--Krim and his ridiculously out of date  dreaming of events that MAY have happened 25 years ago(or more) "

since you know SO MUCH about me JayH


I can only know from the crap and BS you post here - so that was my reference :)




since you know SO MUCH about me JayH
then you know that while you were pecking away on your keyboard


No Krim -- the reality is that while you are spending so much of your time  "pecking away on your keyboard"    I am spending my time   with a girl  you can only dream of   and lust after ! ;D


SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #116 on: April 11, 2019, 06:53:48 PM »
pic JayH or it's just you playing with your dingo....
I give pics


"I am spending my time   with a girl  you can only dream of   and lust after !"

JayH that is just SUCH A WEIRD PATRHOLOGICAL WAY to express this
your center of attention is that you're trying to make another man (me?) jealous
that's why I'm starting to think that there is not just a little bit of dingo petting going on here
but a whole lot of dingo petting is going on
hmmmm hmmmmmm

pic. or you're a dingo petter, bed wetter, descended from a transported debtor


« Last Edit: April 11, 2019, 11:00:28 PM by krimster2 »

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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #117 on: April 11, 2019, 08:11:57 PM »
Look at who you follow--Krim and his ridiculously out of date  dreaming of events that MAY have happened 25 years ago(or more)  and because they are roughly in line with the idiot Roosh you want to believe that BS !!
Although he may embellish a bit I don't doubt Krimster had many adventures. But it was a generation ago and Ukraine is a very different place now (as is the FSU in general). Foreigners are nowhere near as exotic; with some women they are reviled, with others marked for exploitation. And then there are many normal women who may be open to communication but not looking for a romantic acquaintance.

I was in Shevchenko Park a few weeks ago. TC would have more luck trying to chat up the moms in the playground than college girls. And even then I get the impression he doesn't have the communication skills or charisma to woo a woman.

TC - if you're going for a weekend the best you can hope for is to line up some dates online. I honestly don't think you'll find a woman in a random street encounter.

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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #118 on: April 11, 2019, 09:17:23 PM »
"I was in Shevchenko Park a few weeks ago"

too cold, try next Friday when Casa Deritmo does open salsa - unless the weather's bad
lots of single girls in packs they're almost all undergads lookin for some guy to dance with, but no luck

look here's a vid



I know it looks corny!  but that's what makes this a prime spot, its "safe" family atmosphere
also, news flash!  EVERYTHING looks corny in Ukraine... eta oo cry eena
everyone's in a more open mood in this kind of environment, drunk wimmin will just come right up and talk to you
different social rules apply here - especially on holidays and everyone had a bit too much to drink and I don't mean qvas
usually free alcohol on Victory day  - just a few weeks away, everyone's drunk by 6:00 PM


round the corner from there is Sportyvna Square and Gulliver Mall
this is one of the easiest hunting territories in kyiv
still nothin, head east to Khreshchatyk and then north

by then, you'll have past at least a million super models


BTW dewd, please do not portray me as some washed up has been who sits around tellin stories
ok, I don't know who HE is, but he's not me
like I told Jay-Low,
I was in a pool with two lovely naked Ukrainian women today
and unless you were in a pool with three then your comments are not even worthy of my ridicule


« Last Edit: April 11, 2019, 10:30:15 PM by krimster2 »

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Trench shows others how NOT to do it .
« Reply #119 on: April 11, 2019, 10:08:52 PM »


Moby, JayH and Nightwish have all been very argumentative on most of my posts on here, hostile it could often be said. Seems a bit of a over reaction to me just on my misogynist etc viewpoints/ideas on FSU dating.

Can't speak for others mentioned, but normally, I wish all guys good luck..you - I hope the ladies will not encounter you - until you change your attitude.


. For me it has been trying to work out what is all going on in FSU dating both socially and culturally.

You have NO clue about your local one ... you just think you can go to Ukraine and will 'save' a poor girl

In the UK it would almost definitely mean you are with a girl who is not legit.

Nope ..

Other oddities with a FSW attitude to good in restaurants etc were also answered which again can leave the western man with a lot of questions and doubts over what is really going on with the girl he is with i.e is she for real or is she playing a game and having a guy on etc.

With your current attitude, I'd guess 95%, she's going to use your wallet as a litmus test of your endurance

If I and a few others didn't bring up these discussions there would be a lot less understanding of FSW on here and a lot more relationships fall apart in the early stages by not understanding what is really going on. I've noticed in the past a lot of guys meet a FSW, it's great to start with then all of a sudden goes south because they didn't really understand FSW and the way things are out there, ie Wall, dog issue, etc Yet often there seems to be an almost disproportionate hostility from some members in here over my discussions on here. I mean can some members calm down a bit and not get quite so hostile.

)))  Ah, now Trench is doing all this for the good of others ?

Look, when you first started - you had the usual responses - offering help and encouragement - but , it became clear  that you had an attitude problem to women and then you started offering 'advice' to others who had not made a trip and it was clear that it was nonsense and YOU were the one that got 'angry and petulant' for being busted ..

It's ok to show a difference of opinion, I have never had a problem with Boethius even though she disagrees with pretty much all of what I say or at least questions/remarks on stuff I post.

BIG clue, there ..it goes RIGHT over your head ...    A woman - who knows the FSU - speaks the lingo and YOU think you know, better ?! ..

I just don't know why a few others can't just be a bit more calmer in there approach, the noise made isn't at all helpful in discussing the matter.

Simples : You ask for advice, then simply ignore it - make a mess of things, yet  suggest you 'know better / have learnt ' ..

HOW many times have you just pitched up in a city - without a plan - a crashed and burnt, already ? 

You are NOT Krimster - following his advice will NEVER work for you ... You aren't confident and when you try to be 'Krimster confident' you'll come across as an arrogant idiot ..


Really, I would love to be proven wrong - so ENJOY the weekend and be kind and a gentleman ..
« Last Edit: April 11, 2019, 11:52:01 PM by msmob »

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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #120 on: April 11, 2019, 10:42:42 PM »
Not meaning to cover old turf again. I am looking for a girl who is into me first and foremost. I'm not looking to lead with my wallet. I offer what I guess is an everyday UK lifestyle she'll either be satisfied with that or she won't. If she is not really into me then I guess she may not. The lifestyle I live is decent and not as poor as some have suggested on here.
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What he really means is he hopes to get the biggest bang for the smallest buck.

See how his emphasis is on the cheap flights,  flying into Zhulyany and avoiding taxi expenses from Boryspil.
How the girl has to be ‘into’ him!!! Interpret that as Trench doesn’t want spend any money on dating a woman.
The usual Trench cobblers.

Someone should write up Trench’s Theories of Dating- How Not to be successful in Dating FSUW.



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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #121 on: April 11, 2019, 11:49:48 PM »
Although he may embellish a bit I don't doubt Krimster had many adventures. But it was a generation ago and Ukraine is a very different place now (as is the FSU in general). Foreigners are nowhere near as exotic; with some women they are reviled, with others marked for exploitation. And then there are many normal women who may be open to communication but not looking for a romantic acquaintance.

I was in Shevchenko Park a few weeks ago. TC would have more luck trying to chat up the moms in the playground than college girls. And even then I get the impression he doesn't have the communication skills or charisma to woo a woman.

TC - if you're going for a weekend the best you can hope for is to line up some dates online. I honestly don't think you'll find a woman in a random street encounter.

To be honest I'm not really aiming at a college girl, I understand some posters have sound reason for not eliminating younger girls. For me though I don't think younger girls like that would sit comfortably with me, not unless they were knocking around college in their late twenties/early thirties. Some might push out a bit that direction as some do two undergrad degree's, master's degrees etc. I think blue collar or low grade (basic admin) white collar girls would suit me best. Women with kids I don't really know, I can see why they may fit in some ways.

I think there is an element where foreigners don't have the same value as we are more numerous and less novel in Ukraine than back in the 90s no doubt. Recent situation with the economy & conflict in the east probably keeps interest there I get the feeling.

Main thing is that for this trip I've decided not to line up any women online. Even after all is included it's still going to be a fairly cheap outing. I could do one the following month if I like and it not impact my finances hard. If I go for dates online then I could be forgoing time spent on the ground meeting women. I've got some stuff to go with on that front this time. Even if it falls flat I will be happy enough for a few days away knocking around doing/seeing around Kiev, even that can be handy for the future. I've been trying to learn some basic Russian so I may try a bit of that while over there. Its really just a case of giving another method opportunity to see if it works, if it I'll go back to the sites for another trip to the FSU.

My thoughts at the moment is to try a few different locations and see if any work out/work out best for me.
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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #122 on: April 11, 2019, 11:58:41 PM »
Another Trechie classic .. ;)



I think there is an element where foreigners don't have the same value as we are more numerous and less novel in Ukraine than back in the 90s no doubt. Recent situation with the economy & conflict in the east probably keeps interest there I get the feeling.

I fail to see the connection....  I DO think it is clear our Trench thinks he's 'saving' a woman from Ukraine ...

IF you're so worried about saving money on flights to the FSU - there's buses to Kyiv and the Baltics states are closer ..

Or why not invest in a Russian Visa - spend hours filling in the application form(!) and you'll be a 'novelty' in the middle of Siberia?

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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #123 on: April 12, 2019, 02:06:21 AM »
To be honest I'm not really aiming at a college girl, I understand some posters have sound reason for not eliminating younger girls. For me though I don't think younger girls like that would sit comfortably with me, not unless they were knocking around college in their late twenties/early thirties. Some might push out a bit that direction as some do two undergrad degree's, master's degrees etc. I think blue collar or low grade (basic admin) white collar girls would suit me best. Women with kids I don't really know, I can see why they may fit in some ways.

I think there is an element where foreigners don't have the same value as we are more numerous and less novel in Ukraine than back in the 90s no doubt. Recent situation with the economy & conflict in the east probably keeps interest there I get the feeling.

Main thing is that for this trip I've decided not to line up any women online. Even after all is included it's still going to be a fairly cheap outing. I could do one the following month if I like and it not impact my finances hard. If I go for dates online then I could be forgoing time spent on the ground meeting women. I've got some stuff to go with on that front this time. Even if it falls flat I will be happy enough for a few days away knocking around doing/seeing around Kiev, even that can be handy for the future. I've been trying to learn some basic Russian so I may try a bit of that while over there. Its really just a case of giving another method opportunity to see if it works, if it I'll go back to the sites for another trip to the FSU.

My thoughts at the moment is to try a few different locations and see if any work out/work out best for me.
Trench thinks he will can control them better if they are ‘low grade/blue collar  working women’ who will have lower expectations and will be happy to cook , clean and service him while popping out a kid or two.

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Re: Chicken Kiev Weekend
« Reply #124 on: April 12, 2019, 02:13:59 AM »
I was in a pool with two lovely naked Ukrainian women today
Neither hookers nor incest interest me.  :P

msmob - Siberia is not an option for TC. He couldn't afford the flights! A pair of front row seats at the ballet would cost more than his flight to Kyiv, everything in perspective. Not that I think theater is on his agenda.
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