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« on: May 30, 2019, 06:03:31 PM »
Hi folks.

New here but wanted to drop a short dossier since I figured that this is the place to do it.

My name is Albert.

Place of residence: Murray, Utah.
Education: Vanderbilt University- BA in English lit/creative writing in 1997; Yale University- MPH in epidemiology in 2001; now back in school here at the University of Utah studying photography (BFA) and computer science with video game design (BS) after a long hiatus.
Relationship status- currently committed to working on a relationship from a lady from the Volgada Oblast region; she is flying here tomorrow to SLC to be with me for a month.
Age- 42 years old.
Place of origin- Queens, New York City.
Musical tastes- Everything except techno and heavy metal. Mostly jazz, classical, and underground hip-hop like Public Enemy, N.W.A., Onyx, Wu-Tang Clan (especially the Wu!), etc. I like Russian pop and mainstream music like Serebro and Lana Del Rey (my favorite US singer) and Taylor Swift, etc.
Book tastes- Everything literary. I really am deep into postmodern philosophy like Deleuze, Derrida, Walter Benjamin (very huge into the Frankfurt School). Also Russian literature.
Ethnicity- Taiwanese-American.

I have a wide range of hobbies like video games (which is why I am going into video game design) to travel to napping (j/k sort of) to being a foodie (Alinea, here we come...) to spending time meditating as I am a Buddhist. Politically I consider myself a democratic socialist with some conservative values (particularly when it comes to gay marriage and abortion and dealing with weed legalization) to some pro-left values (particularly when it comes to economics and treatment of the poor as I am pretty anti-corporate). I am also reasonably financially stable so no worries there.

In any case, I guess that it will be interesting to see how tomorrow goes and I will post updates regarding that adventure  on this forum. :)
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Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2019, 06:41:02 PM »
Hi-
Hopefully you can have fun posting here.

Impressive academic background. English is actually my 4th language, but I’m humbled telling you persuasion is the correct spelling of the word.
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2019, 06:54:14 PM »
I saw the bad spelling just a few seconds ago so going to correct it. Thanks!
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2019, 07:37:07 PM »
Hi,

I saw in another post that you said your lady met you on Zoosk.  How long have you known her?  How do you communicated with her.

I hope it all goes well tomorrow. 

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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2019, 07:41:03 PM »
Not that long ago honestly. Maybe about six weeks ago. Tomorrow she arrives on a tourist visa via her travel agency, Vit-Tour (http://vit-tour.com/). Feeling somewhat nervous but happy at the same time! :)

So far, we have e-mailed and spoken a few times on the telephone.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2019, 07:50:35 PM by SocialistNerd »
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2019, 11:07:45 PM »
So far, we have e-mailed and spoken a few times on the telephone.


Only exchanged a few emails and talked on the phone a few times and she's ready to spend thousands to visit you? Lucky guy.

It's hard for an FSU woman to get a tourist visa to America. Seen a few guys come on the forum and say a woman is coming to visit them and on the day of the flight, the women call the men and tell them they have a problem that is solved with money. It's a cleaver scam because they know men who think with their little head make unwise decisions.

If she comes, great! If she makes the call the day of the flight and needs money, say goodbye.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2019, 01:28:27 AM »
I hope it works out for you. If she arrives, I’d love to know her circumstances and what she put in her visa application to get approved.

I talked to a visa specialist today and enquired about another attempt to bring K to Australia on a tourist visa. He basically laughed at me and said she’ll just be disappoint again when it gets denied. The state of play here is her only chance for a tourist visa is if we are married or engaged.
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2019, 01:48:10 AM »
Welcome to the forum, 'SocialistNerd' !

I am sorry, but this all sounds too good to be true.

I hope you did not send a lot of money to help pay for the trip...

I say this as you suggest emails and talking..was the extent of your 'relationship'..

Really, will be pleased to be proven wrong and hope you'll forgive us sceptics...

We have seen this type of excitement too many times, turning into shame.


If it turns out we were correct...DO NOT feel ashamed...

Let other's be warned..


If you wish to announce, ALL US WONDERFUL and shame us doubters..

Feel free!
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2019, 02:45:19 AM »
Welcome to the forum, 'SocialistNerd' !

I am sorry, but this all sounds too good to be true.

I hope you did not send a lot of money to help pay for the trip...

I say this as you suggest emails and talking..was the extent of your 'relationship'..

Really, will be pleased to be proven wrong and hope you'll forgive us sceptics...

We have seen this type of excitement too many times, turning into shame.


If it turns out we were correct...DO NOT feel ashamed...

Let other's be warned..


If you wish to announce, ALL US WONDERFUL and shame us doubters..

Feel free!

It would be great to see a fsu woman get a tourist visa the current climate of almost certain rejection.

I know all woman are different, but one thing that stands out to me is her limited contact.

Leading up to my trip and I wasn’t sure K and I would meet, so I hit fdating and dmnotify. I had 5 other women that I was keen on and all wanted to message, call and video chat daily. As I started concentrating more on K in the last month, I neglected the other women a little and cut my correspondence back to every other day. One by one they all disappeared.

Video chatting seems to be the key to weeding out none genuine women or scammers and I think it’s the same for women. They want to see that you are who you say you are. All the genuine women I’ve contacted insist on this within a week of meeting online, if I didn’t  suggest it first.

I wish you good luck 😊
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2019, 07:00:02 AM »
Update. Sorry guys but there has been a delay in T's arrival into the US due to some unpaid loan for her apartment so helping her deal with that. Hopefully in less than two weeks she will be here. At least she definitely got her visa fine...

I didn't realize that loans could cause customs to bust folks at the gate. Her travel agency confirmed the issue so basically I hope that this will be merely a slight delay in any case. More to come.
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2019, 07:07:40 AM »
Matey, STOP..  You have just been a mark..

If T was in arrears, she would know she could be stopped.

An 'issue' at the border would NOT be a surprise for her..

Better you go to 'her'  ( if you can find her)  and save yourself ( further) contributing to a bottomless pit.

Sorry, but this has ALL the signs of a sting((




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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2019, 07:28:09 AM »
yeah...scam...
how much is she trying to take you for?
were you also paying for her flight?

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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2019, 07:50:16 AM »
Her mother helped her with the flight. I double checked and her agency seems legit.
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2019, 07:54:11 AM »
Not that long ago honestly. Maybe about six weeks ago. Tomorrow she arrives on a tourist visa via her travel agency, Vit-Tour (http://vit-tour.com/). Feeling somewhat nervous but happy at the same time! :)

So far, we have e-mailed and spoken a few times on the telephone.

I hope you haven't sent her money.

When I was on Match I communicated with a woman from Omsk.  She asked to email directly and not message on Match.  After a few emails she said her vacation was coming up soon and she wanted to visit me.  She said her travel agency can arrange everything, including a tourist visa.  Soon she told me that the flight and visa was more expensive than she thought, and asked if she could "borrow" the money from me.  When I resisted she asked if I could pay for 1/2.  When I said resisted again, saying that I would pay for everything after she arrives here, she disappeared.

The wait time for someone to visit the US Embassy for their visa interview is 200 days.  So, unless your T already had a visa, there is no chance she could get one in 6 weeks.  Check the US Embassy site and also Visajourney forums.  There is a forum dedicated to Russia K1 and spouse visa process, and the most common post is about how ppl have to wait 3+ months for their interview appointment.  And those visas are in a shorter wait time category (immigrant visa).




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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2019, 08:32:57 AM »
Her mother helped her with the flight. I double checked and her agency seems legit.

How much did you "help" her with?

As Lewis Grizzard use to say "I know a lot of folks educated beyond their intelligence"

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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2019, 09:31:44 AM »
Like the other guys have indicated, you’ve met a scammer. There’s no shame in that, I’ve dealt with a handful over the last few years.

The bottom line is, when a fsu woman tells you she’s visiting a country like the US, Uk or Australia on a tourist visa after very little correspondence, the type of correspondence you have had, meeting how you did and having unforeseen money issues surrounding her trip, means there’s a 99% chance she’s a romance scammer..... match, zoosk, pof etc... are full of them.

This is a classic scam and you’ll find many variations online. She (or he) was either going to hit you up earlier for the visa or airfare costs, have a sick or injured family member, a major crisis in her life or have a situation like what’s happened to your girl at the airport. There is a few variations of the airport scam and if I look hard enough on the Black lists, I seem to remember the exact scam being tried on you.

Check this site out and you’ll find 100’s of examples of the visa/airfare, unexpected problem before travelling etc...  scam. You may even find your lady by name and photo, it will be a stolen image and fake name.
http://www.womenrussia.com/blacklist_summary_a.htm#Archive1

Here’s a message from another guy in a similar situation, seeking help online.
“My girlfriend is Russian. Last night we tried to fly her to the US on a valid tourist visa. She was stopped at DME and told she would be required to have $2700 USD to get back home immediately even though she had a return ticket. She said this was an "unwritten" rule because of the nonsense i keep seeing on CNN , Anybody else know anything? She is literally trapped and scared to death”

You’ll find 100’s of men in the process of being scammed like this and asking for help online. Be thankful you didn’t face the ultimate humiliation and weren’t left waiting at the airport, out of pocket with flowers in hand, only for her to no show like many other guys have experienced. 

What would be good is to see this through to the end and post the messages on the forum, so other new guys in the same predicament can be referred to your post. One of the last guys who introduced himself was heading down the same road, but wasn’t as advanced as your are in the scam......   http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=23626.0

Spend some time on fdating.com,  you’ll meet genuine fsu women and see their online behaviour is totally the opposite of the woman you are talking too. You’ll pick scammers in the first few messages in the future, because Fsu women don’t write messages / emails like you have been receiving.
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2019, 02:43:17 PM »
Update. Sorry guys but there has been a delay in T's arrival into the US due to some unpaid loan for her apartment so helping her deal with that. Hopefully in less than two weeks she will be here. At least she definitely got her visa fine...

I didn't realize that loans could cause customs to bust folks at the gate. Her travel agency confirmed the issue so basically I hope that this will be merely a slight delay in any case. More to come.

You've sent her/he money haven't you? Whatever you do from here on end, DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY!!!!!! IT IS A SCAM!!!!!! GET IT??????
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2019, 04:01:21 PM »


If T was in arrears, she would know she could be stopped.

An 'issue' at the border would NOT be a surprise for her..



An even more simple observation.

Border folks know NOTHING about loans a person may have; let alone anything about arrears.

If anyone believes border folks know such; then next we will be hearing that border folks stop those who have not had a good bowel movement in the last 3 days or didn't send birthday greetings to their Mother this year.
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2019, 07:22:33 PM »
Really, ML?

You might like to check that with the 'missus..  I think even a Ukrainian would know this..

This IS Russia, as they say...

One CAN be stopped at the border for unpaid fines, taxes AND even unpaid loans, car credit over a certain amount.....

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/05/31/2-million-people-barred-leaving-russia-over-unpaid-debt-a61643
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2019, 07:54:50 PM »
Sorry guys but there has been a delay in T's arrival into the US due to some unpaid loan for her apartment so helping her deal with that.


You shouldn't waste anymore of your life with this one. Start writing other women and find a woman that doesn't have problems that is solved with money. That is the girl you should be spending your money on.
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2019, 01:45:51 AM »
Update. Sorry guys but there has been a delay in T's arrival into the US due to some unpaid loan for her apartment so helping her deal with that. Hopefully in less than two weeks she will be here. At least she definitely got her visa fine...


Dear Albert,

If you helped her with the problem she claims she would have been free to travel in 23 minutes.

You seem to be reassuring yourself.

We are not in the habit of trying to wreck relationships...


This is not a relationship....

You ARE being scammed.





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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2019, 06:06:13 PM »
SN..... post the first few message you received from her and we can tell you if she’s legit or not.
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2019, 06:22:34 PM »
SN..... post the first few message you received from her and we can tell you if she’s legit or not.

Hey Davo, I plan to visit you in Australia.
Right now my money is unavailable, but if you send me $10,000 I will buy my ticket and pay you back when I arrive in Australia.
Hope to see you soon.
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2019, 06:50:19 PM »
Hey Davo, I plan to visit you in Australia.
Right now my money is unavailable, but if you send me $10,000 I will buy my ticket and pay you back when I arrive in Australia.
Hope to see you soon.

Why not ... you’re an attractive man. No need to give the money back as I see you being the taker in our relationship and I’ll be the giver.

So should I register us for the 2020 Sydney gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras?..... If you’re  keen, start doing squats now because we are going broke back mountain style and you need to look good in arseless chaps 😜

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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2019, 06:59:28 PM »
OMG . . . what have I signed myself up for ??? !!!
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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2019, 07:15:54 PM »
OMG . . . what have I signed myself up for ??? !!!

Well I’ve already dated a half America woman and she was the best girl I’ve met by far, so maybe the next logical step is some American man love 😉

I get your point though. I was just interested in seeing if scammers have upped their game and are using the cautious giving of details and emotionless short message approach of a genuine FSU woman, over the long waffling life story opening letters and almost instantaneous expressions of love, that they usually send.
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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2019, 05:21:28 AM »
SN I would advise caution with the member msmob, his advice is correct here but I fear it is only given with the desire to get you onside to get you into his bed with him or yes a visit to the LGBT Mardi Gras :devil:
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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2019, 06:16:37 AM »
Hi guys,

I appreciate all of your advice and looks like too many red flags for me to want to deal with this situation.
After some looking around here on this website, I guess that fdating is going to be a good solution?

Been super busy. Got a huge midterm in calculus this Friday and even some better news... going to be purchasing my first home in my life w/o a mortgage so pretty happy about that. So I will be moving in a few weeks from this apartment :o...

Would love to chat more about this. I think that I may take a few Russian classes later on. But will definitely have to check out this forum more for experienced advice.
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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2019, 08:05:02 AM »
Hi guys,

I appreciate all of your advice and looks like too many red flags for me to want to deal with this situation.
After some looking around here on this website, I guess that fdating is going to be a good solution?


Good that you have learned something and have enough sense (if only about this subject) to take the valid advice given.
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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2019, 09:24:26 AM »
Hi guys,

I appreciate all of your advice and looks like too many red flags for me to want to deal with this situation.
After some looking around here on this website, I guess that fdating is going to be a good solution?

Been super busy. Got a huge midterm in calculus this Friday and even some better news... going to be purchasing my first home in my life w/o a mortgage so pretty happy about that. So I will be moving in a few weeks from this apartment :o...

Would love to chat more about this. I think that I may take a few Russian classes later on. But will definitely have to check out this forum more for experienced advice.

Hi SN, you and I are about the same age, my 41;to your 42. Having your own home mortgage free as I have too not so long ago is handy in this venture. Having the means at hand that you are in a relatively secure/stable position in life is what many FSW will find reassuring. Many look abroad for a reason and for many FSW that can be a better lifestyle/more stable lifestyle and may struggle to find a guy that can do that at home.

I assume as a student you are not bringing in much in the way of income? If your degree may allow you to improve that you might as well stick it out but be aware some FSW a student won't come across as a good provider, a mature student even less so as many will have expected you to get that all out the way a long time ago.

Learning Russian I think is a good move, it's what I'm doing, it won't come over night, for me it doesn't anyway but slowly but surely I'm building it up so starting at it early is not a bad idea. It will help you get better acclimatised to the scene and more importantly make you look and be less vulnerable. I found it can take a while to get familiar with the scene out there, the more quickly you do the less of an obvious prey you will appear. Generally the FSU countries are nice enough places to visit but FSW and others will take advantage of you look weak, vulnerable and unsure of what's happening around you.

I'm glad you have seen the obvious red flags present, Fdate is a good website to go with and it's totally free to use :) Formal Russian classes are no doubt best but try and learn the odd few phrases and words in your own time if you can with online resources, good luck.
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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2019, 12:01:26 PM »
Dear Trench
It is noted you are trying to make a connection with a fellow FSU bride seeker...

You 'advice' needs to come with a Public Heath warning..

But nice to see you wishing someone Good Luck


He'll be fine as long as he NEVER listens to any dating 'advice' from our forum's least adept dater in the FSU...)
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« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2019, 12:04:06 PM »
too many red flags for me to want to deal with this situation.
After some looking around here on this website, I guess that fdating is going to be a good solution?

It looks like you've gotten away without having any of your
organs harvested, my advice is that you educate yourself
on this endeavor and you too will see these types of things
coming from a mile away. The great thing is all this information
is free for those who are willing to learn.



These threads will get you started.

RWD Ten Commandments
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=1740.0


Pursuing FSUW 101. The procedures and the dating websites.
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=14615.0


The Free E-Book
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=47


My story, trials and tribulations of seeking, finding, pursuing, 
marrying and building a life with the woman of my dreams.
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=3432.0

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« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2019, 12:05:02 PM »
Well I’ve already dated a half America woman and she was the best girl I’ve met by far, so maybe the next logical step is some American man love 😉

I get your point though. I was just interested in seeing if scammers have upped their game and are using the cautious giving of details and emotionless short message approach of a genuine FSU woman, over the long waffling life story opening letters and almost instantaneous expressions of love, that they usually send.

Socialistnerd's first post about the woman was/is a dead giveaway that is particular scammer hasn't up his game. That scam has been around for many years now. Has visa, is coming, held up at Passport control, needs fast money. It reads Boris from the git-go. Sounds like he was hooked, line and sinker. Thankfully he found this joint. He hasn't come clean on how much he's already sent though. That would be some valuable info for other guys that come looking.

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« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2019, 12:09:46 PM »

I appreciate all of your advice and looks like too many red flags for me to want to deal with this situation.
After some looking around here on this website, I guess that fdating is going to be a good solution?


No matter what site you use, you need to use your big head. The pay per letter sites may scam you. The girls may scam you. You will get a lot of attention from those that want to separate you from your money. Good girls have busy lives and they don't write every man. It takes time and effort to find a good one that's actually interested in you. If you're chasing women for years with no luck, you're doing something wrong. If you're an average guy that beats half your competition, there's no reason for you not to be 100% successful. It's easier to catch a woman than it is to ace a Calculus test.

There are people that will pass info about you and your family. Do not share info about yourself or share photos as they can search for you on the internet and distribute what they found since they are allowed to participate here.

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« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2019, 04:40:21 PM »
Hi guys,

I appreciate all of your advice and looks like too many red flags for me to want to deal with this situation.
After some looking around here on this website, I guess that fdating is going to be a good solution?

Been super busy. Got a huge midterm in calculus this Friday and even some better news... going to be purchasing my first home in my life w/o a mortgage so pretty happy about that. So I will be moving in a few weeks from this apartment :o...

Would love to chat more about this. I think that I may take a few Russian classes later on. But will definitely have to check out this forum more for experienced advice.

A guy of your intelligence will have no issues finding many genuine women on fdating. Still be cautious as I’ve been sent a few opening messages on there that were bound to eventuate into the same type of scam and one on dmnotify also.  My guess is I met one scammer for every 50 genuine women I talked to and usually they were the ones who made first contact. 

EDIT**** I see Bill has already suggested the E book.

Check out this free online E book available to members. It has a wealth of knowledge and everything  you need for this journey is covered in detail. It has a very helpful table that lets you score women you have met online and gives a good indication if she’s genuine on not.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=47

« Last Edit: June 02, 2019, 07:50:56 PM by Davo »

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« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2019, 11:59:48 PM »
Hi SN, you and I are about the same age, my 41;to your 42. Having your own home mortgage free as I have too not so long ago is handy in this venture. Having the means at hand that you are in a relatively secure/stable position in life is what many FSW will find reassuring. Many look abroad for a reason and for many FSW that can be a better lifestyle/more stable lifestyle and may struggle to find a guy that can do that at home.

I assume as a student you are not bringing in much in the way of income? If your degree may allow you to improve that you might as well stick it out but be aware some FSW a student won't come across as a good provider, a mature student even less so as many will have expected you to get that all out the way a long time ago.

Learning Russian I think is a good move, it's what I'm doing, it won't come over night, for me it doesn't anyway but slowly but surely I'm building it up so starting at it early is not a bad idea. It will help you get better acclimatised to the scene and more importantly make you look and be less vulnerable. I found it can take a while to get familiar with the scene out there, the more quickly you do the less of an obvious prey you will appear. Generally the FSU countries are nice enough places to visit but FSW and others will take advantage of you look weak, vulnerable and unsure of what's happening around you.

I'm glad you have seen the obvious red flags present, Fdate is a good website to go with and it's totally free to use :) Formal Russian classes are no doubt best but try and learn the odd few phrases and words in your own time if you can with online resources, good luck.

Even though I am a student I make enough from personal investments that I don't have to work again.
I am going back to school to what I love this time; not what my father (who passed away last year) or society dictates.
I am looking at various options here. Dating Russian or Ukrainian ladies is going to be quite an adventure I suppose.
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« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2019, 01:22:06 PM »
Russian women like their men strong, rugged, virile, powerful, successful and handsome...
this is what makes their little ovaries flutter...
ultimately, a Russian woman wants to find a man to marry that she can show off to her family, friends and even the entire village to get status!!!  “look! look at who I married everyone!!!”
so just like men who want a trophy wife, Russian women all secretly yearn for a trophy husband to show off!!

as a result,
your chances of success with a Russian woman are proportional to how close you are to their ideal trophy husband...

in my case I was a successful silicon valley entrepreneur and at 6‘4“ and 200 pounds dark blond hair and blue eyes of mixed English and Russian background was considered very handsome yet also exotic by Russian standards AND I spoke the language (thanks to my grandmother helping raise me as a child who was born in northern Ukraine!)
so this was ALL VERY EASY FOR ME.....
but unfortunately won’t be for you...
my appearance is a BIG plus for me in Russia and Ukraine
but unfortunately, yours won't be for you
so you have to play things differently
instead of looking mainstream
you need to look in the fringes...

there are very deep prejudices against Asians in Russian culture going back hundreds of years...
I would consider the prejudices to be at least as strong as between black and white in the USA...
which despite it’s existence, there is plenty of black and white dating in America
so racism is a problem for you in Russia but not an insurmountable one IMHO...
just like not insurmountable elswhere...

BUT, because of this issue, instead of following the more conventional and easily implemented approach of using agencies, may I suggest an alternative:

but first some points:

you need to learn a lot!  you have no clue how ignorant you are of the culture
and ignorance will always lead to failure there

learn to speak Russian!  your chance of success will be proportional to how much Russian you speak

since you live so close to Vladivostok, why not go visit, you will learn a LOT!

because of the racial issue, I’d suggest an approach of what I call, “Run the flag up the flag pole and see who salutes it”

go over to VK and setup a fanpage for yourself there with a lot of cool looking photos with your rugged, tough looking self and work at promoting yourself and start getting contacts
these will all be women who will be chill with you being Asian...
so when they start writing you, you just pick one and go visit!
see, easy!!!!

I have a page on VK that promotes a Russian cosmetic company I have created and I sell cosmetics from this page as well, I have an “About Me” on my web site which is in Russian, and I have over 1500 contacts this way, each contact has full info and a pic, I’d say about 1 out of 4 is “hot”, so I have a list of around 400 hot looking Russian women who have contacted me and expressed an "interest" in me...
what more do you need than this?
so honestly, this is the approach I’d take if I were you!!!
he who has ears may listen...

« Last Edit: September 06, 2019, 08:35:22 PM by krimster2 »

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« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2019, 02:19:32 PM »
The guy hasn't posted since June. He could be a one thread
wonder.

Does anybody want to speculate if Davidoff is a real person?

Post # 1 Hello. this is a good story. thank you.
Post # 2 Hello there.  I think this is a good site. Helpful.

My guess would be not a real person seeking advice but
I will wait for more evidence.

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« Last Edit: September 06, 2019, 02:24:57 PM by 2tallbill »
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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2019, 03:32:33 PM »
yeah, I always write "Vladivostok" when I suspect that!!!!

 

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