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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2019, 07:15:54 PM »
OMG . . . what have I signed myself up for ??? !!!

Well I’ve already dated a half America woman and she was the best girl I’ve met by far, so maybe the next logical step is some American man love 😉

I get your point though. I was just interested in seeing if scammers have upped their game and are using the cautious giving of details and emotionless short message approach of a genuine FSU woman, over the long waffling life story opening letters and almost instantaneous expressions of love, that they usually send.
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2019, 05:21:28 AM »
SN I would advise caution with the member msmob, his advice is correct here but I fear it is only given with the desire to get you onside to get you into his bed with him or yes a visit to the LGBT Mardi Gras :devil:
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2019, 06:16:37 AM »
Hi guys,

I appreciate all of your advice and looks like too many red flags for me to want to deal with this situation.
After some looking around here on this website, I guess that fdating is going to be a good solution?

Been super busy. Got a huge midterm in calculus this Friday and even some better news... going to be purchasing my first home in my life w/o a mortgage so pretty happy about that. So I will be moving in a few weeks from this apartment :o...

Would love to chat more about this. I think that I may take a few Russian classes later on. But will definitely have to check out this forum more for experienced advice.
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2019, 08:05:02 AM »
Hi guys,

I appreciate all of your advice and looks like too many red flags for me to want to deal with this situation.
After some looking around here on this website, I guess that fdating is going to be a good solution?


Good that you have learned something and have enough sense (if only about this subject) to take the valid advice given.
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2019, 09:24:26 AM »
Hi guys,

I appreciate all of your advice and looks like too many red flags for me to want to deal with this situation.
After some looking around here on this website, I guess that fdating is going to be a good solution?

Been super busy. Got a huge midterm in calculus this Friday and even some better news... going to be purchasing my first home in my life w/o a mortgage so pretty happy about that. So I will be moving in a few weeks from this apartment :o...

Would love to chat more about this. I think that I may take a few Russian classes later on. But will definitely have to check out this forum more for experienced advice.

Hi SN, you and I are about the same age, my 41;to your 42. Having your own home mortgage free as I have too not so long ago is handy in this venture. Having the means at hand that you are in a relatively secure/stable position in life is what many FSW will find reassuring. Many look abroad for a reason and for many FSW that can be a better lifestyle/more stable lifestyle and may struggle to find a guy that can do that at home.

I assume as a student you are not bringing in much in the way of income? If your degree may allow you to improve that you might as well stick it out but be aware some FSW a student won't come across as a good provider, a mature student even less so as many will have expected you to get that all out the way a long time ago.

Learning Russian I think is a good move, it's what I'm doing, it won't come over night, for me it doesn't anyway but slowly but surely I'm building it up so starting at it early is not a bad idea. It will help you get better acclimatised to the scene and more importantly make you look and be less vulnerable. I found it can take a while to get familiar with the scene out there, the more quickly you do the less of an obvious prey you will appear. Generally the FSU countries are nice enough places to visit but FSW and others will take advantage of you look weak, vulnerable and unsure of what's happening around you.

I'm glad you have seen the obvious red flags present, Fdate is a good website to go with and it's totally free to use :) Formal Russian classes are no doubt best but try and learn the odd few phrases and words in your own time if you can with online resources, good luck.
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2019, 12:01:26 PM »
Dear Trench
It is noted you are trying to make a connection with a fellow FSU bride seeker...

You 'advice' needs to come with a Public Heath warning..

But nice to see you wishing someone Good Luck


He'll be fine as long as he NEVER listens to any dating 'advice' from our forum's least adept dater in the FSU...)
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« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2019, 12:04:06 PM »
too many red flags for me to want to deal with this situation.
After some looking around here on this website, I guess that fdating is going to be a good solution?

It looks like you've gotten away without having any of your
organs harvested, my advice is that you educate yourself
on this endeavor and you too will see these types of things
coming from a mile away. The great thing is all this information
is free for those who are willing to learn.



These threads will get you started.

RWD Ten Commandments
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=1740.0


Pursuing FSUW 101. The procedures and the dating websites.
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=14615.0


The Free E-Book
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=47


My story, trials and tribulations of seeking, finding, pursuing, 
marrying and building a life with the woman of my dreams.
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=3432.0

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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2019, 12:05:02 PM »
Well I’ve already dated a half America woman and she was the best girl I’ve met by far, so maybe the next logical step is some American man love 😉

I get your point though. I was just interested in seeing if scammers have upped their game and are using the cautious giving of details and emotionless short message approach of a genuine FSU woman, over the long waffling life story opening letters and almost instantaneous expressions of love, that they usually send.

Socialistnerd's first post about the woman was/is a dead giveaway that is particular scammer hasn't up his game. That scam has been around for many years now. Has visa, is coming, held up at Passport control, needs fast money. It reads Boris from the git-go. Sounds like he was hooked, line and sinker. Thankfully he found this joint. He hasn't come clean on how much he's already sent though. That would be some valuable info for other guys that come looking.

FWIW

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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2019, 12:09:46 PM »

I appreciate all of your advice and looks like too many red flags for me to want to deal with this situation.
After some looking around here on this website, I guess that fdating is going to be a good solution?


No matter what site you use, you need to use your big head. The pay per letter sites may scam you. The girls may scam you. You will get a lot of attention from those that want to separate you from your money. Good girls have busy lives and they don't write every man. It takes time and effort to find a good one that's actually interested in you. If you're chasing women for years with no luck, you're doing something wrong. If you're an average guy that beats half your competition, there's no reason for you not to be 100% successful. It's easier to catch a woman than it is to ace a Calculus test.

There are people that will pass info about you and your family. Do not share info about yourself or share photos as they can search for you on the internet and distribute what they found since they are allowed to participate here.

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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2019, 04:40:21 PM »
Hi guys,

I appreciate all of your advice and looks like too many red flags for me to want to deal with this situation.
After some looking around here on this website, I guess that fdating is going to be a good solution?

Been super busy. Got a huge midterm in calculus this Friday and even some better news... going to be purchasing my first home in my life w/o a mortgage so pretty happy about that. So I will be moving in a few weeks from this apartment :o...

Would love to chat more about this. I think that I may take a few Russian classes later on. But will definitely have to check out this forum more for experienced advice.

A guy of your intelligence will have no issues finding many genuine women on fdating. Still be cautious as I’ve been sent a few opening messages on there that were bound to eventuate into the same type of scam and one on dmnotify also.  My guess is I met one scammer for every 50 genuine women I talked to and usually they were the ones who made first contact. 

EDIT**** I see Bill has already suggested the E book.

Check out this free online E book available to members. It has a wealth of knowledge and everything  you need for this journey is covered in detail. It has a very helpful table that lets you score women you have met online and gives a good indication if she’s genuine on not.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=ezportal;sa=page;p=47

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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2019, 11:59:48 PM »
Hi SN, you and I are about the same age, my 41;to your 42. Having your own home mortgage free as I have too not so long ago is handy in this venture. Having the means at hand that you are in a relatively secure/stable position in life is what many FSW will find reassuring. Many look abroad for a reason and for many FSW that can be a better lifestyle/more stable lifestyle and may struggle to find a guy that can do that at home.

I assume as a student you are not bringing in much in the way of income? If your degree may allow you to improve that you might as well stick it out but be aware some FSW a student won't come across as a good provider, a mature student even less so as many will have expected you to get that all out the way a long time ago.

Learning Russian I think is a good move, it's what I'm doing, it won't come over night, for me it doesn't anyway but slowly but surely I'm building it up so starting at it early is not a bad idea. It will help you get better acclimatised to the scene and more importantly make you look and be less vulnerable. I found it can take a while to get familiar with the scene out there, the more quickly you do the less of an obvious prey you will appear. Generally the FSU countries are nice enough places to visit but FSW and others will take advantage of you look weak, vulnerable and unsure of what's happening around you.

I'm glad you have seen the obvious red flags present, Fdate is a good website to go with and it's totally free to use :) Formal Russian classes are no doubt best but try and learn the odd few phrases and words in your own time if you can with online resources, good luck.

Even though I am a student I make enough from personal investments that I don't have to work again.
I am going back to school to what I love this time; not what my father (who passed away last year) or society dictates.
I am looking at various options here. Dating Russian or Ukrainian ladies is going to be quite an adventure I suppose.
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Re: Asian Persuasion?!?
« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2019, 01:22:06 PM »
Russian women like their men strong, rugged, virile, powerful, successful and handsome...
this is what makes their little ovaries flutter...
ultimately, a Russian woman wants to find a man to marry that she can show off to her family, friends and even the entire village to get status!!!  “look! look at who I married everyone!!!”
so just like men who want a trophy wife, Russian women all secretly yearn for a trophy husband to show off!!

as a result,
your chances of success with a Russian woman are proportional to how close you are to their ideal trophy husband...

in my case I was a successful silicon valley entrepreneur and at 6‘4“ and 200 pounds dark blond hair and blue eyes of mixed English and Russian background was considered very handsome yet also exotic by Russian standards AND I spoke the language (thanks to my grandmother helping raise me as a child who was born in northern Ukraine!)
so this was ALL VERY EASY FOR ME.....
but unfortunately won’t be for you...
my appearance is a BIG plus for me in Russia and Ukraine
but unfortunately, yours won't be for you
so you have to play things differently
instead of looking mainstream
you need to look in the fringes...

there are very deep prejudices against Asians in Russian culture going back hundreds of years...
I would consider the prejudices to be at least as strong as between black and white in the USA...
which despite it’s existence, there is plenty of black and white dating in America
so racism is a problem for you in Russia but not an insurmountable one IMHO...
just like not insurmountable elswhere...

BUT, because of this issue, instead of following the more conventional and easily implemented approach of using agencies, may I suggest an alternative:

but first some points:

you need to learn a lot!  you have no clue how ignorant you are of the culture
and ignorance will always lead to failure there

learn to speak Russian!  your chance of success will be proportional to how much Russian you speak

since you live so close to Vladivostok, why not go visit, you will learn a LOT!

because of the racial issue, I’d suggest an approach of what I call, “Run the flag up the flag pole and see who salutes it”

go over to VK and setup a fanpage for yourself there with a lot of cool looking photos with your rugged, tough looking self and work at promoting yourself and start getting contacts
these will all be women who will be chill with you being Asian...
so when they start writing you, you just pick one and go visit!
see, easy!!!!

I have a page on VK that promotes a Russian cosmetic company I have created and I sell cosmetics from this page as well, I have an “About Me” on my web site which is in Russian, and I have over 1500 contacts this way, each contact has full info and a pic, I’d say about 1 out of 4 is “hot”, so I have a list of around 400 hot looking Russian women who have contacted me and expressed an "interest" in me...
what more do you need than this?
so honestly, this is the approach I’d take if I were you!!!
he who has ears may listen...

« Last Edit: September 06, 2019, 08:35:22 PM by krimster2 »

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« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2019, 02:19:32 PM »
The guy hasn't posted since June. He could be a one thread
wonder.

Does anybody want to speculate if Davidoff is a real person?

Post # 1 Hello. this is a good story. thank you.
Post # 2 Hello there.  I think this is a good site. Helpful.

My guess would be not a real person seeking advice but
I will wait for more evidence.

Udachi!

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« Last Edit: September 06, 2019, 02:24:57 PM by 2tallbill »
FSUW are not for entry level daters
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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2019, 03:32:33 PM »
yeah, I always write "Vladivostok" when I suspect that!!!!

 

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