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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2019, 08:14:47 PM »
One of the things we do here in the USA is we smear 'enemies', and make them out to be bad actors.  In reality in most cases they are competitors that are beating us at something, so we make them out to be something terrible, like in the case of Iran.   

Now Alex Jones is accused of sending child porn.  He has made many despicable statements and injured lots of people with his often baseless accusations.  I do think he incites hatred.   Now he is whining because he is facing accusations of child porn and that will dog him in the same way he has unjustifiably dogged others.  I doubt he is guilty of this, but I don't feel sorry for him either. 

Alex Jones does no such thing (incite hatred), he has stuck to a story when
anyone must surely know it's not true, but he has a right to his opinion and
the right to free speech especially political speech.
 
Lawyers: Files sent by Alex Jones contained child porn

Lawyers for the families of children and adults killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School disclosed Monday that child pornography was found in electronic files sent to them by conspiracy theorist Infowars host Alex Jones.

The pornography was found in email metadata files Jones' attorneys turned over to the families' lawyers as part of the discovery process of a defamation lawsuit, which was filed in a Connecticut court last year in response to discussions on Jones' show about the school shooting being a hoax....


http://www.yahoo.com/news/lawyers-infowars-host-alex-jones-202021411.html 

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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #51 on: June 18, 2019, 10:46:35 PM »


You lefties are all about shutting down free speech.

IF, I'm a 'leftie' - you must be right of Attilla the Hun ..  Plenty of right of centre folks abhore [ spelling error corrected ]  'Brexit' and held no fear over migrants coming from the EU - given it had a postitive effect on our economy, overall ..

Naturally, if you canot understand your Alex Jones is a a wack job and HAS incited violence ..  there's nothing more to debate ..

 'Free Speech' - YES  ..promoting polarisation, NO

'Our' Alex Jones is much more appealing - she hosts an early evening show on BB! weekdays - but is on maternity leave at the mo


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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #52 on: June 18, 2019, 11:42:11 PM »
Alex Jones does no such thing (incite hatred), he has stuck to a story when
anyone must surely know it's not true, but he has a right to his opinion and
the right to free speech especially political speech.

You lefties are all about shutting down free speech.




Six months ago Jones was "deplatformed" all at the same time by all the big players. He was kicked off of Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, Google (diverted searches) and many other platforms. PayPal kicked him off. Some his associates had their bank accounts shut down. Facebook users, including two members that used to post here, have been banned on FB. This morning I notice a guy that used to post here name "Golden" had his Facebook photo deleted. It has even gotten to the point that saying positive things about Jones can get you banned. Say negative things is OK by Jack Dorsey and others but not positive things. Any conservative on the "fringe" is under the watch and censor. You mainstream conservatives should be alarmed. Ever heard of "shadow banned?" That is getting banned and not knowing it. Or have your hit counts deliberately cut down by a leftist working for Google or FB. Or having searches diverted to acceptable sites. 


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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #53 on: June 18, 2019, 11:47:02 PM »
One of the things we do here in the USA is we smear 'enemies', and make them out to be bad actors.  In reality in most cases they are competitors that are beating us at something, so we make them out to be something terrible, like in the case of Iran.   

Now Alex Jones is accused of sending child porn.  He has made many despicable statements and injured lots of people with his often baseless accusations.  I do think he incites hatred.   Now he is whining because he is facing accusations of child porn and that will dog him in the same way he has unjustifiably dogged others.  I doubt he is guilty of this, but I don't feel sorry for him either. 
Lawyers: Files sent by Alex Jones contained child porn

Lawyers for the families of children and adults killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School disclosed Monday that child pornography was found in electronic files sent to them by conspiracy theorist Infowars host Alex Jones.

The pornography was found in email metadata files Jones' attorneys turned over to the families' lawyers as part of the discovery process of a defamation lawsuit, which was filed in a Connecticut court last year in response to discussions on Jones' show about the school shooting being a hoax....


http://www.yahoo.com/news/lawyers-infowars-host-alex-jones-202021411.html 

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That is a lie. He was ordered by court to send his emails in for the discovery process. There was over 6 million emails sent in. In them were 15 unopened emails that had been sent to him that contained child porn. This was a deliberate attempt to smear him.

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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #54 on: June 18, 2019, 11:48:17 PM »
Dear Maxx

You've got this ass about face ..

I adore a good debate with someone with an opposing viewpoint and totally agree that they have a right to their opinion - but when they start posting shameless lies to gain support - twaddle that harms lives, upsets and infuences other to do daft things - it's time to put them on the naughty step

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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #55 on: June 18, 2019, 11:55:11 PM »
So where do you draw the line?  Should NAMBLA be free to advocate for grown men to have sexual relationships with prepubescent boys?  Should racists be allowed to hold rallies advocating for violence against the "other", whoever that is?

I think the internet has opened up all sort of pernicious things that don't deserve an audience, primarily because you can literally find a group online for anything you believe in.  Think vaccines cause autism, notwithstanding no credible scientific research supporting that view?  You will find advocates online who support that whacky view.  Do you believe the earth is flat?  Or that the moon doesn't exist? You can find online communities that support that view.

Some of the above are obviously relatively harmless.  But others are not.  The point is, though, that now, anything and everything can find supporters online, and education and reason often are irrelevant.

Imagine how hurtful it was to the Sandy Hook parents to use their personal tragedies for ratings and whacky conspiracy theories, suggesting their children didn't die.  How would you feel if someone suggested your tragedy and pain didn't occur?  IMHO, that is victimizing those parents yet again.

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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #56 on: June 18, 2019, 11:58:13 PM »
Dear Maxx

You've got this ass about face ..

I adore a good debate with someone with an opposing viewpoint and totally agree that they have a right to their opinion - but when they start posting shameless lies to gain support - twaddle that harms lives, upsets and infuences other to do daft things - it's time to put them on the naughty step

We are free to debate the 'poor soul's' plight


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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2019, 12:08:07 AM »
So where do you draw the line?  Should NAMBLA be free to advocate for grown men to have sexual relationships with prepubescent boys?  Should racists be allowed to hold rallies advocating for violence against the "other", whoever that is?

I think the internet has opened up all sort of pernicious things that don't deserve an audience, primarily because you can literally find a group online for anything you believe in.  Think vaccines cause autism, notwithstanding no credible scientific research supporting that view?  You will find advocates online who support that whacky view.  Do you believe the earth is flat?  Or that the moon doesn't exist? You can find online communities that support that view.

Some of the above are obviously relatively harmless.  But others are not.  The point is, though, that now, anything and everything can find supporters online, and education and reason often are irrelevant.

Imagine how hurtful it was to the Sandy Hook parents to use their personal tragedies for ratings and whacky conspiracy theories, suggesting their children didn't die.  How would you feel if someone suggested your tragedy and pain didn't occur?  IMHO, that is victimizing those parents yet again.

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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2019, 12:13:14 AM »
IF, I'm a 'leftie' - you must be right of Attilla the Hun ..  Plenty of right of centre folks abhire 'Brexit' and held no fear over migrants coming from the EU - given it had a postitive effect on our economy, overall ..

Naturally, if you canot understand your Alex Jones is a a wack job and HAS incited violence ..  there's nothing more to debate ..

 'Free Speech' - YES  ..promoting polarisation, NO

'Our' Alex Jones is much more appealing - she hosts an early evening show on BB! weekdays - but is on maternity leave at the mo



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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2019, 12:17:41 AM »
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I have no idea of our Alex Jones' politics ... How do you ? ;)
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« Reply #60 on: June 19, 2019, 12:30:53 AM »
Maxx

I have no idea of our Alex Jones' politics ... How do you ? ;)


WOW! Your refusal to look at the other side goes to that depth??? Unbelievable! Someone told you she was equivalent to Alex Jones and you accepted it and up went the blinders? Amazing!


So what is the latest about your ETA to Georgia?

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« Reply #61 on: June 19, 2019, 01:49:40 AM »

WOW! Your refusal to look at the other side goes to that depth??? Unbelievable! Someone told you she was equivalent to Alex Jones and you accepted it and up went the blinders? Amazing!


So what is the latest about your ETA to Georgia?

Maxx,

'our' Alex Jones co presents a weekly,  show..She does not try to make a 'name' for herself posting stuff that, rightly, ends her up in Court..

There is no latest.. I cannot make a plan until a certain Russian gent hands SC a revised gadget (

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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #62 on: June 19, 2019, 02:29:30 AM »
Maxx,

'our' Alex Jones co presents a weekly,  show..She dies not try to make a 'name' for herself posting stuff that, rightly, ends her up in Court..



Winding up in court for "posting stuff" is how the Left is trying to stifle the speech of the Right. What is wrong with making a name for yourself? What is wrong with "formatting hate" if the hate is for evil things? Evil things like infanticide. Killing a child after it is born alive? The Democrat Governor of Virginia says it is OK as long as the baby is kept comfortable until the doctor after consultation with the mother kills it. We are living in a crazy, crazy world! Alex Jones has the courage to expose it.


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"Drag Queen Story Time" for little children is going on all over America. Jones exposes this stuff that others fear too. That is why they are trying to shut him up.


A few years ago I watched the Alex Jones show when Matt Drudge of the DRUDGE REPORT paid Alex an unexpected visit. Drudge was there to tell Alex that he needed to get out of the "media ghetto" of FB, Youtube, Twitter et cetera and establish his own platform. Matt Drudge said that he got tipped off by a Supreme Court Justice that banning him was in the works. I seen this. So when Alex got banned, I knew it was coming!

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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #63 on: June 19, 2019, 02:38:02 AM »
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« Reply #64 on: June 19, 2019, 02:46:07 AM »

Winding up in court for "posting stuff" is how the Left is trying to stifle the speech of the Right.

Maxx, your President has over-seen  a right of centre Supreme Court and there are some REALLY scary laws being passed re abortion rights in extreme cases of rape, etc.,

Your nation voted' - by minus 3 million votes - to 'elect' a right of centre President and you are 'complaining' of some sort of 'campaign'.. ? :cluebat:


Jones is a wack-job - period
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« Reply #65 on: June 19, 2019, 02:48:35 AM »




Did you know that Bill Clinton's name is on billionaire Jeffrey Epstein's private jet's flight log, the Lolita Express? Jeffrey Epstein is a convicted Paedophile! He had his own private island in a Caribbean where his shenanigans went on with 12 year old girls. And Bill flew with him to this island. 

Clinton did have sex with that woman and has done some really stupid things..

You guys elected him ( and he actually got more votes than the other guys )
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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #66 on: June 19, 2019, 03:34:42 AM »



Matt Drudge starts talking at the 6:00 minute mark. At the 17:00 minute mark Matt Drudge says he had a Supreme Court Justice tell him "It is over for you". That the Drudge Report would be taken down on copyright violation. Even using just the headlines to links to stories was enough for legal action to be taken. At the 19:00 Drudge tells Jones why he came to see Alex. "The media is trying to put us to sleep. You are not letting them Alex."

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« Reply #67 on: June 19, 2019, 03:47:03 AM »

Jones is a wack-job - period


Name calling doesn't help your argument. Neither does calling people names that post here. It makes me wonder if you are trying to formate hate? Nah... I don't believe that. In many ways you are like Jones. You both have a flamboyant personalities.


Yesterday at the gym Alex asked me when he was going to see you again. Perhaps when you come we can arrange a party at Joggo's place? 

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« Reply #68 on: June 19, 2019, 05:01:11 AM »
Hi Maxx

Now, I AM worried about your judgement))..

I am male and outgoing....I think any other comparisons are tenuous..

I have not got any criminal / civil convictions and am not banned from FB, YT, et al.


The 'name calling' is based out what your AJ has said and done.. demonstrable lunacy..


Your friend Alex is a great guy and I even missed being with SC on her birthday..as I am not free to travel / make plans for another week.

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Re: USA blows up 2 tankers and blames Iran
« Reply #69 on: June 19, 2019, 12:52:42 PM »

Do you think members of NAMBA would vote Right?

Your photos are of drag queens.  Typically, they aren't looking for underaged boys.

As for the question, two words - Dennis Hastert. 

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« Reply #70 on: June 20, 2019, 02:00:59 AM »
Your photos are of drag queens.  Typically, they aren't looking for underaged boys.

As for the question, two words - Dennis Hastert. 

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Hastert was a hypocrite.





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« Reply #71 on: June 20, 2019, 02:28:54 AM »
Or how 'stiff' and pompous some folk are..?;)

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« Reply #72 on: June 20, 2019, 03:06:42 AM »
Or how 'stiff' and pompous some folk are..? ;)


For some things it is OK to be stiff, pompous, format hate and hate. Things like sexualizing children into the LBQGT way of life.





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« Reply #73 on: June 20, 2019, 03:30:56 AM »
Probably wasn't even a 'gay' parade .. given the 'info' from 'info'wars..


Tell me, Maxx... do you think that SC should not go topless on a beach, too ? ;)
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« Reply #74 on: June 20, 2019, 04:28:36 AM »
Probably wasn't even a 'gay' parade .. given the 'info' from 'info'wars..


Tell me, Maxx... do you think that SC should not go topless on a beach, too ? ;)


I'd advise SC to wear more clothes and be prepared to be hit on by many, many Georgian men. I'd also advise her to wear a wedding ring. That was what AW are advised to do who taught English here with the LTG program. Topless? I suppose she could. I'm not sure if the police would arrest her for indecent exposure if she was somewhat discreet about it. The place where I advise for sun bathing and splashing in the Sea is by an Army outpost. The water is the clearest there. I took you over there. She'd give the soldier on watch something to watch (probably with binoculars).

 

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