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HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« on: July 15, 2019, 10:30:51 AM »
Its been 5 long years since I went to Minsk with my then girlfriend Olushka. Now we are heading over there as a married couple. We fly out Mon Aug 26 and return Sep 09. This is mainly a trip for Olga as her last surviving aunt is going to have open heart surgery so she wants to support her. I will try to get some of the sights in that I missed last time like the WWII museum and such.

I will try to post photos when possible on this thread.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2019, 11:42:20 AM by Hammer2722 »
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2019, 12:31:53 PM »
Looking forward to it..
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2019, 02:03:12 PM »
Bon voyage!

Five years is a long time away from the old country.  Olushka will be so excited to see her family, friends, and the culture from her past life.

I will be interested to read what she thinks of Minsk today after 5 years of Western life.

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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2019, 02:17:27 PM »
Hammer,

Belarus is one of the countries in Eastern Europe I have not been to.  I always love to hear impressions from experienced people who go there. 

From my understanding, Luka still has the support of his people, even to the extent of defying Putin on occasion.  When you are there, can you give us a sense of the political climate?

I'm also interested in hearing how the people see their own futures.  Are they optimistic?  Under a totalitarian rule?  (If you define it as totalitarian....)

I was talking to a gal from Minsk last week.  She said that she's been living outside of he country for the last two years and has no desire to go home.

Give us your impressions, Hammer.  You always have good insights.
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2019, 02:31:46 PM »
Did you and Jone see mendy's thread about traveling to Belarus?

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=23629.msg509520#msg509520

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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2019, 02:39:24 PM »
Jone, My wife is in constant contact with her friends and family via email and skype. I can tell you that Luka does not have the support of the people. Most are too frightened to do anything about it. They most certainly complain about him behind closed doors. Especially many of the small business owners who are constanly getting their taxes raised. Olga's cousin Irina has a business where she used to have 2 shops in different locations in the city. Taxes and declining sales have forced her to close one shop while business in not doing so well.


Most people still have many freedoms like the ability to travel freely and all Belorussians want nothing to do with Putin! I will definitely share my thoughts  of what I percieve about the people's moods while there.
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2019, 02:40:21 PM »
Did you and Jone see mendy's thread about traveling to Belarus?

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=23629.msg509520#msg509520


Oh most definitely. I always enjoy Mendy's posts. I even shared his thread with my wife.
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2019, 02:48:33 PM »
What a trip that will be. Take lots of pictures...post the great ones.
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2019, 03:21:50 PM »
Did you and Jone see mendy's thread about traveling to Belarus?

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=23629.msg509520#msg509520

No.  Thanks for pointing it out.
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2019, 09:07:41 PM »
Have a good trip Hector. It will be a different trip this time since you're a married man and not on the hunt!
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2019, 09:27:17 PM »
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2019, 09:19:14 PM »
Tickets are purchased! We are flying out on the 26th of Aug and will be back 06 Sep. Tickets came out to under $1300.00 each. So looking forward to a break from work...... :wallbash:
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2019, 09:50:25 PM »
Tickets came out to under $1300.00 each.


Prices to fly during Summer are killer.
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2019, 10:00:46 PM »
BillyB, agreed. Those were the best prices we could find.....
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2019, 12:47:01 AM »
BillyB, agreed. Those were the best prices we could find.....


Makes me wonder where you looked. I got RT for $636 aug 28- sept 17, depart to moscow and return from Kiev.


Seems to me best pricing is ~~8-10 weeks before trip
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2019, 12:54:36 AM »

Makes me wonder where you looked. I got RT for $636 aug 28- sept 17, depart to moscow and return from Kiev.


Seems to me best pricing is ~~8-10 weeks before trip

Your trip is when kids are back at school ? ..
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2019, 04:59:09 PM »
Your trip is when kids are back at school ? ..

????? My kids will retire in a couple years!!! )))
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2019, 06:55:18 PM »

Makes me wonder where you looked. I got RT for $636 aug 28- sept 17, depart to moscow and return from Kiev.


Seems to me best pricing is ~~8-10 weeks before trip


We were limited to cities we would be flying in and out of and length of flights and connection wait time. Wife did not want to fly through Moscow and she preferred flying through Paris, Amsterdam or Frankfurt.....Our trip lengths are less than 20 hours each way.
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2019, 01:07:44 AM »
????? My kids will retire in a couple years!!! )))
My great-grand kids are in school!!

I'm not sure if I didn't explain or you're being obtuse, deliberately !;)

I refer to a period when kids are at school and prices fall !

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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2019, 03:15:54 PM »

We were limited to cities we would be flying in and out of and length of flights and connection wait time. Wife did not want to fly through Moscow and she preferred flying through Paris, Amsterdam or Frankfurt.....Our trip lengths are less than 20 hours each way.

Think there is some issue with going from Moscow to Minsk with the visa free stuff I vaguely recall. From the UK direct flights can only be obtain with the Belorusian airline, Belavia to Minsk. Flying from the UK, Belarus is generally a lot more expensive than Kiev, Ukraine. The air fees are way more, not talking the budget airlines either, several hundred pounds. Accomodation is also more expensive in Minsk than Kiev I guess as they have been catering for tourists for less time.

I was messaging a girl from Minsk over the summer, she was too young for me, just 22, but I saw it as an opportunity to learn more. She talked openly that she wanted to get away from Minsk because of father (Lukashenko). I was surprised as the last girl I met there did not want to talk about him. We've all heard the bad news stories of course of what may go down to the more outspoken opponents of Lukashenko. I even skyped with the girl to see if she was authentic, she was, her English though was pretty non-existent and my Russian is pretty poor so the Skype didn't last long. I told her in advance though that it wouldn't, I just want to see her to see what she looked like other than in the photos.

Anyway, there seems to be a big thing for Belarusian wanting out, far more than Ukraine I would say,vas their no. 1 priority. She stated too that most people there don't like Lukashenko and want him to go. Like you say though lots of talk but doesn't look like anything is going to happen there anytime soon.
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2019, 12:11:08 AM »

We were limited to cities we would be flying in and out of and length of flights and connection wait time. Wife did not want to fly through Moscow and she preferred flying through Paris, Amsterdam or Frankfurt.....Our trip lengths are less than 20 hours each way.


I am not sure when you bought your tickets, as I said 8-10 weeks best pricing. Last week of August starts the Fall season pricing. Another week or two would have been better pricing. As Trench said, no way for you to use Moscow for connection. Lately both KLM and Air France have had luggage problems and both offer 'light' pricing( no check-in bag). Lufthansa still has regular pricing( w check-in bag).
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2019, 05:10:51 AM »
I don't really understand why people are so against Lukashenko to be honest. I mean I know you have the whole not speaking out against the regime, accusations of oppression, jail, etc but all in all the society seems a peaceful, civilized and fair place to be. Crime is low and compared to its sister country Ukraine the deal is a whole lot more less chaotic affair. I kind of get the impression if they gave up Lukashenko and the whole quasi-soviet affair they would just be punished with a Ukraine version 2 situation. I hear the economy isn't particularly any better in Belarus than Ukraine but I don't think getting rid of Lukashenko will change that, if anything it could make it worse. The young women there tend to wear nice short tight skirts so I think I could live there quite happily for quite some time :) Just my thoughts on it all anyway.
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2019, 07:34:31 PM »
Well, we are all checked in for our flights to Minsk tomorrow. Direct from Seattle to Frankfurt with a 6 hour layover, then less than 2 hrs to Minsk!!!!  :clapping:
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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2019, 10:02:29 PM »
Well, we are all checked in for our flights to Minsk tomorrow. Direct from Seattle to Frankfurt with a 6 hour layover, then less than 2 hrs to Minsk!!!!  :clapping:

Don't let the excitement prevent you from getting a good nights rest! There is a McDonald's in the Frankfurt airport that serves the McRib sandwich year around when it's only available for a month out of the year in the States.
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Re: HEADING TO MINSK, AGAIN!
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2019, 12:17:31 AM »
Hammer,

If one or both of your flights is with Lufthansa and you want in-flight entertainment  you need to download the app, beforehand.

You cannot download it on board.

Have a good one.

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