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boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« on: September 12, 2019, 08:37:32 AM »
years ago when I was living in Sevastopol, I wanted to have a proper freakin boat, minimum 35 ft length and be able to sleep family and guests
but because back then it was under Ukraine, just to get a spot in the marina combined with "protection"
involved such HUGE corruption and so many pay-offs and deals that needed to be made
that I gave up in frustration at getting a real boat, cuz if I did it would likely be stolen or destroyed in the first year!!!!

so, all I ended up with was this, purchased in Balaklava with its own slip and krisha ALREADY PAID!!...
8 meters, 75HP outboard!!!  big enough for my family to sleep inside, small head and galley for my wife
as fate would have it, I left Crimea a year after buying this, so my kids and I didn't get to enjoy this too much...
wife didn't like it AT ALL, but kids and I loved it!!!  great adventures on the chorny moira
our usual trip was to leave Balaklava harbor and head past cape Fiolent to Sevastopol buy a pizza at Chilantono's Pizza and back again to Balaklava
roughly a 7 mile drive from my apartment to the marina in Balaclava
here's a pic from one time when we docked in downtown Sevastopol harbor...


next year, I'll be looking at speed boats for the Moskva, don't know too much about them, the popular brands in Russia are European like Renault, LOL not sure I'd trust a FRENCH speed boat!!!
but the one I was in last month, was pretty sweet and I've NEVER been that fast on ANY boat, let alone racing one on the Moscva river with a bunch of lunatics!!

another pic from back then...
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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2019, 11:39:56 AM »
Why does anyone want an 'iron Topsail '?)

 


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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2019, 12:09:17 PM »
As I understood it, you and daughter liked the Rice arrangement because she would not be too far away from family for frequent visits.

That should work out fairly well when you are living in Moscow.
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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2019, 02:53:57 PM »
Moscow is ONLY for the summers and my youngest daughter only guarantees me two summers in Moscva!
I could never survive another winter there!!!
the ONLY thing you do in Mosckva in the winter is run into and out of your apartment to somewhere as FAST as possible...
unless the sidewalks are icy, in which case you wear ski boots and walk VERY slowly...
so NO! 
never another freakin' winter there!!!

my oldest daughter was on TV in Moscow this year and last year and got a LOT of attention...
two movie studios reached out to her and she sent them her photos and they are VERY interested in her...
my daughter likes Moscva because of all the social network she has there
which is much "higher caliber" then what she has in the USA....
so she is going to be like me and try to make a life living in both places at least for awhile...


but summers are WAY cool in Moscva!
especially hangin out with moy bratnoy who are freaking insane Russian lunatics!!!!  not boring at all!!!
plus I'm making just ridiculous BC money there and OMG paying NO TAXES!
so it become a question of where do you buy real estate using an offshore shell corporation with nominee directors
in a bitcoin for euro or dollar  swap...

the economics of bitcoin in Russia are AMAZING!!!!
super cheap electricity in Irkutsk Oblast plus bankrupt grocery chain's frozen food storage facility purchased under the table...
1024 bitcoin mining ASICS electricity costs = 10,000 rubles/day about $4500 month and about same amount in bribes...
this rig can pull in over 12 million/yr USD in bitcoin that no one in Russia or even USA can ever legally touch or regulate!!!!

my "organizatze" is selling these systems to connected savvy oligarchs and we build our own that we sell shares in...
we bring our ASIC cards in to Russia as PC video cards that are taxed at $100 value instead of $3000 value!!!
so we owe $20,000 VAT instead of $600,000 VAT, spossiba' krisha!!!
built-in cooling inside the giant empty "cold storage" of a bankrupt grocery chain...
plenty of room for future expansion!!!

a 1024 unit rack retails for 8 million USD - assembled and running and I receive a 10 % YEARLY commission from operating and maintaining the system, this is all hands free for the owner
who is given an offshore shell corporation in a tax free country with nominee directors in which to conduct business transactions
part of the ecosystem now includes anonymous bitcoin real estate services in the USA and abroad through bitcoin currency swaps
where the "counter-party" purchases the property in cash and then sells to the offshore Isle of Man registered shell corp for Russian bitcoin...
it's a way of laundering on both ends, this system has been successfully tested in both Europe and the USA...


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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2019, 03:00:32 PM »
"Why does anyone want an 'iron Topsail '?)"

wood is not really part of the tradition here
which is all iron or what they call "stalnoy" here, horrosho!!...

I was lucky to be able to buy this little boat actually...
it was incredibly hard back then to get a marina slip
due to all the krishas and mafias you needed to pay-off
almost impossible to bring in a NEW boat so you could only buy someone else's OLD one!!
and only rarely would one be for sale...

in the fields around Balaklava after it rains, my children would wander around and look for Crimean war coins and bullets just laying on the ground!!!
they found hundreds!!!!!  mostly British!!!  almost all were British pennies with Queen Victoria and George IV and even George III!!!  only one shilling from George III!!!
a few french coins with Napoleon!!! no Russian ones!!!




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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2019, 04:04:38 PM »
"Why does anyone want an 'iron Topsail '?)"

wood is not really part of the tradition here
which is all iron...
I was lucky to be able to buy this little boat actually...
it was incredibly hard back then to get a marina slip
due to all the krishas and mafias you needed to pay-off
almost impossible to bring in a NEW boat so you could only buy someone else's OLD one!!
and only rarely would one be for sale...

it the fields around Balaklava after it rains, my children would wander around and look for Crimean war coins and bullets just laying on the ground!!!
they found hundreds!!!!!  mostly British!!!  almost all were British pennies with Queen Victoria and George IV and even George III!!!  only one shilling from George III!!!
a few french coins with Napoleon!!! no Russian ones!!!

Balaklava and the nearby ruins were some of my fondest memories of my trips to Ukraine/Crimea.   The cold war submarine base inside the mountain was unforgettable.
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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2019, 05:08:48 PM »
fortunately, current Russian subs are too large to fit in Balklava so the Russian Navy won't reactivate the base...
the harbor is actually pretty small an NO ROOM for big boats!

when you head out of the harbor you immediately pick up a good wind that takes you all the way past Fiolent
and you make good time!!!

next summer if I have my place in Moscva finished I will buy a marina slip hopefully not too far away
and buy a shallow draft jet boat and race with the guy who I hope becomes my future son in law
and if that happens, then I am automatically a "made man" in Moscva!!

and my wife will have to give me "carte blanche" as far as my behavior goes
because she understands that I have to be a team player
which means whatever the other guys do, I have to do as well...
sweet!!!
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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2019, 09:12:24 PM »
Citizens of USA must lawfully pay USA Federal Income taxes on worldwide income.
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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2019, 09:29:30 PM »
"Citizens of USA must lawfully pay USA Federal Income taxes on worldwide income"

yeah, too bad my expenses were so high that it produced no profit - so no income
it's called "transfer pricing"
it's so "money laundering 101"ish but with bitcoin - that it'd be on the first page of the book if there ever was one
no profits equals no taxes
but every 1024 rig I sell nets my organizatze a profit of 6 million USD and about 1.2 million USD per yr...
this gets split up a LOT of different ways however!!!
there are MANY mouths to feed here!!!!
BUT...
it's going to make an OBSCENE amount of money!!!


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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2019, 09:36:38 PM »
"Citizens of USA must lawfully pay USA Federal Income taxes on worldwide income"

yeah, too bad my expenses were so high that it produced no profit - so no income
it's called "transfer pricing"
it's so "money laundering 101"ish but with bitcoin - that it'd be on the first page of the book if there ever was one

Transfer pricing causes profits in one country to be shown in another country.
Transfer pricing does not, in itself, cause zero world wide profits.
False tax accounting is necessary to report zero profits worldwide, when there are real profits being generated.
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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2019, 09:50:51 PM »
it's not false if you have all the proper invoices that shows that income minus expenses equals zero...
and if you are not in the listed board of directors or owners of a corporation, why would you report it's non profit on your personal taxes?
and if the shell corporation is in a tax haven like Isle of Man, then there is no tax at all on ANY foreign income!
ponimayu?  horrosho!!

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and I get young guys to do all the hard physical work!!!!!


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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2019, 10:01:23 PM »
it's not false if you have all the proper invoices that shows that income minus expenses equals zero...


So I guess that is a pretty good strategy to run a business and never earn a profit.

Some people work very hard and unfortunately still end up with zero; your goal seems to be to end up with zero.  So good work.  Good that you have some one else to pay your bills.  A Bernie fan it seems.
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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2019, 10:16:05 PM »
I know, it's GREAT right!!!!
can you imagine the freakin storm that'd happen if democrats pick Biden
and Russians take down Biden through a hit piece on Rosemont Seneca Partners sourced from Ukraine and it's even worse than what they did to Hillary and wikileaks and Trump WINS AGAIN?

btw, why is Kolomoisky attacking the former president of the NBU, if not for why I already told you months ago...
because he is going to use PrivatBank to loot the NBU of ALL RESERVES!!

http://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/ex-nbu-head-gontareva-decries-persecution-after-arson-attack-hit-and-run.html

if I told you all THE INSANE STUFF I saw going in Moscow last month you'd be in shock!!!
one day the curtain will be pulled aside and the world is going to be surprised at what is revealed!!!!
but that's all I can say on that...
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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2019, 12:07:10 AM »
Krimster,

I know f'all about crypto currency, but an iron Topsail is a motor boat!)

I like sailing boats...the motor for use as you enter leave the port)

PS.. I see many motor boats in Sochi harbour that are registered in UK Caribbean dependencies.....


Putin's private yacht....which he always denied was his was so registered when it was based in Sochi...  May be he sold it....It was the biggest...biggest than the Official Presidential yacht...ordered from Turkey, by his popular 'PM' while President for four years..

So, no problem to buy a new one ;)

I am sure the Tomazhni boys have not had official duty payments for such offshore owned vessels.

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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2019, 01:05:22 AM »

Moscow is ONLY for the summers and my youngest daughter only guarantees me two summers in Moscva!


Ahh  I see -- thankyou for explaining  that -- for a moment I was thinking not only is Rice NOT Ivy League it was not even in America ! :)
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2019, 06:52:30 AM »
" Rice NOT Ivy League it was not even in America"

it's in Texas, so it's kinda in America...
spend a summer in Texas, and you'll see why I prefer to spend them in Moscow...
spend a winter in Moscow, and you'll see why I prefer to spend them in Texas...
some birds are smart enough to fly somewhere else each year for an improved weather situation, and some aren't...

the migration of oligarch's and their nesting and mating habits
has lately become a focus of my attention
as I try to get in the door
down on the first floor

all the strange things I have been witness to in Moscva
the ominous signs of an impending storm

haha, looks like Trump has bought the "Biden/Seneca dirt" from "Ukraine"
as I told y'all months ago this was COMING, so get ready because just one step away now before public release of next year's version of 2016's Wikileaks and Hillary's Emails...

normally, I'd say the American people are not SO STUPID that they'd be fooled by Russians a SECOND time...
but compared to Russians, Americans are pretty stupid, so I'm pretty sure this plan will work just as well the second time as it did the first time!!!
and there will be another Trump term!!!



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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2019, 07:06:34 AM »
"but an iron Topsail is a motor boat!)
I like sailing boats...the motor for use as you enter leave the port)"


yeah, but not really much of a choice when it came to boats back then...
you got whatever you could...

Moscow is different, the have boat dealerships with beautiful saleswomen who will take you out for a test drive...
BUT unlike Ukraine, they also have militsa with boats!!! 

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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2019, 07:56:55 AM »
I just need a sunbathing deck where I can observe the safety of my crew

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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2019, 09:08:18 AM »
indeed, keep them under (im)proper observation at all time, stiff upper lip, eh?!!

what a chick magnet even a little boat like that was in Crimea back then!
but my daughters were INSANELY jealous and would not allow ANY other females on board but them...
whenever we docked in Sevastopol, DROVES of young girls/women would surround us...
but my daughters would swear at them in Russian to make them go away!!!!

only drawback of that boat was the deep keel meant I couldn't take it in shallow water
but there was a beach in walking distance to my house that had a deep cove, kids could walk there with my wife and swim out to the boat!!!!
we even spent the night there once!   pic enclosed
ahhhh, good times!!!!
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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2019, 10:27:00 AM »
I would love to buy a Dragonfly 28..a Trimaran with 'wings'  that fold in... To make it suitable for trailer sailing and monohull rates in marinas.

When the wind is fresh it can tow a water skier ..


Not cheap at 150k Euro...but it can blow away speedboats and lots of deck space when cruising



Video of water skier @ 6:35



2nd vid is of an OLD model...The new one in Vid 1 has rudders on the wings, for when the boat is not flat, controllability.

 




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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2019, 12:11:11 PM »
nice! stable and easy to sail and not too big, and like you say tow it with the Range Rover!
I have my heart set on the Yamaha 275E 27 footer (pic enclosed!)  twin 1.8L are stock but you can get them custom with twin 2.4L turbocharged!!!!!
base price is 8.4 million rubles without all taxes, etc, etc... plus all the extras might run to over 10 million rubles...

but this is a boat I could race with my crew on the Moscva and not be too embarrassed....
I will start out racing against other guys in my organization and then we square off against guys who are in other organizations
all while trying to avoid the rechnaya militsa....

I've co-piloted a few times with my daughter's boy friend, he has a similar sized boat, but a Renault, brand new, completely custom made boat that cost over $500,000 in Moscow!!
he's been nice enough to teach me the basics of operating these kinda boats on the Moscva River, which is certainly a new experience for me!!!
but the racing is HIGHLY competitive between different groups, since I'm the only American in my group, you're under a lot of pressure to be always EXCEPTIONAL!!
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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2019, 12:32:50 PM »
Nice...but it is a poseur's boat))

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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2019, 01:37:06 PM »
oh yeah?
what would you recommend in that size and HP?
keep in mind the Yamaha's twin engines can be tricked out to yield over 400 HP!!...
it's a pretty fast hull that hydroplanes at 40+ knots

I'm no poseur like that down under blunder, the low born from Melbourne
when I get my rig I'll show ya'll pics...

I'll show ya'll  pics of my new place in Moscow when I finish it and my boat after that, hopefully everything will be ready next summer...

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Re: boating in Russia - good, bad, ugly?
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2019, 07:00:38 PM »
Nice...but it is a poseur's boat))

Probably he means that’s the boat you take your kids to watch the racing in. It’s the equivalent of driving an RV in NASCAR, if it’s real racing and not just a bit of fun on the weekend.

I’ve done some work on racing boats, particularly for my engine builder who owns a lower class boat (pic below) His boat makes 700hp on methanol and would weigh less than half the weight of your Yamaha “cruiser”.


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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2019, 07:12:02 PM »
these aren't JUST for racing but cruising and for making sales pitches to customers on "excuretse",
I can't imagine the boat you're suggesting be good for anything but racing!!!!
this boat will be used for racing maybe 5% of the time!

it really is a business INVESTMENT and not a toy!!!
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