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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #375 on: November 18, 2019, 02:08:27 PM »
A couple of questions. Do you believe Turkey is safe for Americans?

There are all inclusive resorts in Turkey that are 99% totally safe
and priced well. Russians flock there. An idiot can always find
trouble anywhere. My Turkey experience is extremely limited
but I know a lot of people who travel there. 

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #376 on: November 18, 2019, 07:08:15 PM »
There are all inclusive resorts in Turkey that are 99% totally safe
and priced well. Russians flock there. An idiot can always find
trouble anywhere. My Turkey experience is extremely limited
but I know a lot of people who travel there. 

Big Bill, I think you oversold the safety of current day Turkey.

I have been there 7 times with 5 different gals.

But I would NOT go there today because of safety concerns.
I wouldn't even transit through Istanbul airport.

I would not be surprised that Americans visiting in Turkey will be targeted any day now.

The above also applies for Egypt, which I have been to 3 times with FSU gals.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #377 on: November 18, 2019, 07:31:40 PM »

My advice to Scareface is to brave the cold and see the girls on their turf. Maybe you'll get to meet the family and friends which you wouldn't be able to do going to another country. Save the international vacations for a girlfriend or wife.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #378 on: November 18, 2019, 07:33:21 PM »
I used to take my wife and young daughters to Istanbul when I lived in Sevastopol, it was just a 45 min flight from Simferopol!  we’d get our visas for about $30 right off the plane...

I’d take them around Istanbul to the different museums...
we always stayed in the high end 5 star suites which are super cheap in Istanbul
and they liked to go shopping in all the different places there...
of course, we bought carpets and had them shipped home...

we looked like random Europeans and never had problems
I drank alcohol in public in Istanbul with no problems, beer and a local liquor...
my wife and daughters would wear headscarfs in places like St Sophia...
the secret as usual is, “when in Rome do as the Romans do...”

we flew down to Marmaris from Istanbul and my daughters who are SCUBA certified and I went diving in shallow water that was crystal clear...

then we traveled out into the interior and saw Sumerian ruins
several years before that I went all the way to Göbekli Tepe to the far south...
but even back then in the late 90s I could hear explosions coming from Syria...
it’d probably be a pretty crazy place to go visit now, and I would avoid...
also in that area, I saw a buncha snakes that have cat’s eyes...

you have to check out a place in northern Turkey called Ephesus, it BLEW MY MIND!
cleopatra’s sister has a tomb there and you should check out the city’s library....
a great place to just wander around, feeling a profound sense of utter amazement...

I’d only recommend either Istanbul or Marmaris, both places with a LOT of foreign tourists
and I’d only travel within Turkey by flying...

I REALLY liked Turkey!!!!
it has a rich incredible history that’s just sitting there
you can touch it....

far safer than ANY large big American city...
in Marmaris more than half the tourists will be Russians!

« Last Edit: November 18, 2019, 07:37:37 PM by krimster2 »

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #379 on: November 19, 2019, 03:36:29 AM »
Big Bill, I think you oversold the safety of current day Turkey.

I have been there 7 times with 5 different gals.

But I would NOT go there today because of safety concerns.
I wouldn't even transit through Istanbul airport.

I would not be surprised that Americans visiting in Turkey will be targeted any day now.

The above also applies for Egypt, which I have been to 3 times with FSU gals.

Dear ML

Your US passport does not make you any less safe in Turkey - in the Tourist areas ..  I wouldn't advise going near the Syrian border ;)

You're statistically far more likely to be killed by a wacko with a gun in your own state

I go to Turkey with my beloved v.often - via plane, yacht , car ... 

I hold a UK passport - 'we' are deemed to be just as 'evil' ;)


Istanbul is a wonderful city - The Emerald Coast in S.Turkey is a yachting paradise ( bit late, now)



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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #380 on: November 19, 2019, 04:56:44 PM »
Dear ML

Your US passport does not make you any less safe in Turkey - in the Tourist areas ..  I wouldn't advise going near the Syrian border ;)

You're statistically far more likely to be killed by a wacko with a gun in your own state

I go to Turkey with my beloved v.often - via plane, yacht , car ... 

I hold a UK passport - 'we' are deemed to be just as 'evil' ;)


Istanbul is a wonderful city - The Emerald Coast in S.Turkey is a yachting paradise ( bit late, now)

I strongly disagree with you.

Turkey is a very unstable and potentially volatile country right now . . . for all of its citizens and especially for visitors.

US citizens will be primary targets because of the economic sanctions we placed on Turkey.

When anyone suffers, they certainly are not happy toward those who are imposing the suffering.

There are 2 Turkish persons on the Math Dept faculty and have passed on this info to my wife.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #381 on: November 19, 2019, 06:32:28 PM »
perception....
there's been 11 mass school shootings so far this year in the USA...
how many in Turkey???

tourists are everywhere in Istanbul and Marmaris....
just blend in and you'll be fine...
EXCEPT for the damned carpet sellers!!!!
they're the biggest most annoying thing in Istanbul!!!!
so what you do when you go to the carpet district is to get a "guide" and he'll fend off the others!!!!
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #382 on: November 19, 2019, 09:20:59 PM »
ML

Admittedly,  I do not hold a US passport ..( It seems your President's 'policies' are making you feel 'unsafe'?))

Do you think I would risk my life (  or that of my partner) ?


So, how many times have you been to Turkey in the last 3 years, ML ...? 

I will be there v.shortly..  Again, I feel no less safe there than in a shopping mall in Orlando....

Better you listen to those that go....and manage to 'survive'....

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #383 on: November 20, 2019, 01:16:06 PM »
perception....
there's been 11 mass school shootings so far this year in the USA...
how many in Turkey???

tourists are everywhere in Istanbul and Marmaris....
just blend in and you'll be fine...
EXCEPT for the damned carpet sellers!!!!
they're the biggest most annoying thing in Istanbul!!!!
so what you do when you go to the carpet district is to get a "guide" and he'll fend off the others!!!!
slovo!!

There are 11 mass school shootings in the USA because everyone is unarmed in the school. It is a free-fire zone. If you are a crazy with a gun. You go to a school where no one can shoot back.

Perception...There are many more (mostly ethnic minorities) people killed in a few weekends in Chicago with a population of a few million than in all of the mass shootings combined. But no one is talking about those. But a mass shooting of white kids and everyone is talking about it over and over and over....

Turkey seems risky to me. That blue passport follows me wherever I go, so I have to show a little caution. Looking into getting a second passport as an insurance policy.

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #384 on: November 20, 2019, 03:22:12 PM »
perception....
there's been 11 mass school shootings so far this year in the USA...
 
But what's worse------
 There were at least 85 incidents of gunfire on school grounds in 2019, resulting in:
  • 17 deaths, including 3 suicide deaths (where no one else was harmed) and
  • 54 injuries, including 0 self-harm injuries (where no one else was harmed)
http://everytownresearch.org/gunfire-in-school/#13309
 

 
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #385 on: November 20, 2019, 03:26:45 PM »
scarface, you should try and get out more to see the REAL world...
the biggest danger is your own ignorance...
Turkey is the easiest EXOTIC/EROTIC location to take a Ukrainian woman, roughly 90 minute flight from Kyiv...
easy visas for you and her
AND inexpensive....
safer being a tourist in Istanbul than being a tourist in NYC by FAR even Manhattan...

over the years, I've taken ALL my secretaries from Ukraine to Istanbul and Marmaris
super high end 5 star suites and take them clothes shopping....
generally, I would not be able to walk straight for at least a month after that....
and never any problems....
that's WHY I felt comfortable bringing my children later...
if my little girls were safe there,
I'm guessing that you'll probably be OK as well...






« Last Edit: November 20, 2019, 03:35:19 PM by krimster2 »

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #386 on: November 20, 2019, 03:30:21 PM »
He says to a guy who went to Russia to find his bride.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #387 on: November 20, 2019, 03:49:02 PM »
I’m considering spending a few days in Turkey during my next trip to Russia. Visiting Gallipoli is a sacred pilgrimage that most Australians would like to do once in their life and thousands visit every year. I’ve got friends who have done the pilgrimage and then spent time in the south coast resort towns. They said they feel safe, despite our governments travel warnings regarding Turkey. My Uncle and Aunt are on a Black Sea cruise Atm and Turkey is a destination, as well as Russia and Ukraine.

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #388 on: November 20, 2019, 07:11:08 PM »
Ok, my 2 cents:

WTF.  Turkey?!?

Sure, if Scarface just wants to wet his willy with a good time girl, then yes, get a penthouse suite at the Hyatt, wine and dine her, and fly her off to Turkey.   But why stop at Turkey?  Go to one of those luxurious bungaloes over water in Tahiti or Bora Bora.  I'm pretty sure a girl that signs up for that will drop her panties faster than light speed.


If Scarface wants to find a good girl, a quality girl, then that girl would want to stay at home during the holidays.  She would have friends and family to visit and spend time with for New Years and Christmas.

A girl that would drop all plans and fly away with a stranger is, well, suspect, don't you think?  I'm sure there are outliers out there, but given that a good girl would have plenty of options at home, it would be very long odds to find the one who is quality and would spend time with you during the holidays.

Scarface, if you are serious about finding a good woman, then forget these hookup suggestions.  Try to meet someone online to build some rapport, and go visit her.  If you want to VM, then line up a few potential dates, or follow ML's or 2TBill's advise.

If you want to score, then visit Sandro's Double Dealer's page and book an hour or two with one of those ladies.


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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #389 on: November 20, 2019, 07:40:48 PM »
I think that one of the reasons that Sandro puts these women in his DD files is that the women that are attached to those profiles aren't necessarily the ones in the pictures.  Those pictures are passed around from one profile to another.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #390 on: November 21, 2019, 01:31:34 PM »
"But why stop at Turkey?"

1. convenience - 90 min flight from Kyiv
2. simple visa process
3. really GREAT shopping compared to Kyiv!!!

sure other farther away places might be better, but why use a big heavy sledge hammer when a tiny little pin will work
taking Ukrainian women to Istanbul always worked in my favor...
smart girls will go...
because it's the smart thing to do...
and I ended up marryin the smartest one...
they ALL wanted me to take them clothes shopping there!!!!
like Trump, I had a quid pro quo in mind with a Ukrainian!
and Ukrainian quo is pretty damned sweet!

imagination!
that is your creation!

once you take a Ukrainian woman out of Ukraine, she has to depend COMPLETELY on you...
her personality changes, you MUST make her experience the focus of the trip
this also generally means a lot of close intimacy over clothes shopping
you'll be in the dressing room with her, helping her....
don't forget the lingerie and swim suit
then, when you "make your move", she will NOT rebuff you, because she will be afraid to offend and lose the AMEX card the next day....

tellin ya this worked like a charm EVERY DAMNED time even with women 20 years younger than me!!!
skip the moral judgements, this is how you bend a Ukrainian woman to your will
you generate a flow of rewards that are proportional to her own behavior towards you....
I think they call it "behavior modification" with a positive reward
but this is all ya really gotta do!

they ALL want the treats, it's up to you to train them to earn it
this is the principle I use to manage all the women in my life (and there's a BUNCH!)
it's expensive, but I have them all quite literally eating out of my hand...
and they provide me with an effort free country gentleman's life style in return
I love the smell of patriarchy in the morning
it smells like eggs and bacon and coffee on the back porch...
served by beautiful smiling Russian girls
who genuinely want nothing more than to make sure that I'm happy with them
so they get their rewards....

you single guys probably have to eat a mcmuffin and mc'd coffee or somehing like that, ewwwww....
what a primitive existence...
sounds almost like camping alone in the wilderness


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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #391 on: November 22, 2019, 01:12:04 PM »

I love the smell of patriarchy in the morning
it smells like eggs and bacon and coffee on the back porch...
served by beautiful smiling Russian girls
who genuinely want nothing more than to make sure that I'm happy with them
so they get their rewards....


This morning wife and I went to restaurant for breakfast.
A special price was available for 2 eggs, 2 bacon, 2 sausage and 2 pancakes.

But then what reward followed . . . nothing.

Wife went off to school in her car and I went off to survey office in my truck to pick up plat for my subdivision.

And she will even be very late coming home because of grading of Calc 2 common exam for 15 sections.

Over Thanksgiving break, I get to type up a term project for her.  What fun.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #392 on: November 22, 2019, 01:41:34 PM »
I hope you split that breakfast.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #393 on: November 22, 2019, 02:55:45 PM »
Would like to hear members views on this Interview on YouTube:



A WM interviews a Ukrainian Police Officer about Ukrainian women. He reckons that good women are the ones that don't go jumping into bed with a guy within days or even weeks of meeting her. That also to be the good guy that she wants you should avoid making such moves yourself and take things real slow.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #394 on: November 22, 2019, 04:11:18 PM »
This morning wife and I went to restaurant for breakfast.
A special price was available for 2 eggs, 2 bacon, 2 sausage and 2 pancakes.

But then what reward followed . . . nothing.


2 eggs, 2 bacon, 2 sausage and 2 pancakes don't get the girls turned on anymore like it used to. Try steak and lobster next time.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #395 on: November 22, 2019, 04:19:55 PM »
He reckons that good women are the ones that don't go jumping into bed with a guy within days or even weeks of meeting her. That also to be the good guy that she wants you should avoid making such moves yourself and take things real slow.

Follow that advice and the gal will think you are gay.

Remember what Davo told us the mother of the gal he was with in Southern Russia said regarding this topic.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #396 on: November 22, 2019, 05:58:53 PM »
Would like to hear members views on this Interview on YouTube:



A WM interviews a Ukrainian Police Officer about Ukrainian women. He reckons that good women are the ones that don't go jumping into bed with a guy within days or even weeks of meeting her. That also to be the good guy that she wants you should avoid making such moves yourself and take things real slow.
Trench i already heard the entire video,
And this guy is not an expert in dating. I would not really rely on what he says.

Read : "Operation white panther"
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #397 on: November 22, 2019, 06:29:17 PM »
Thanks guys, probably depends on the girl to some extent I guess. There are probably those girls that are quite moralistic and the waiting type then there are probably those girls that don't mind and would rather get it on with a guy they like and as you say might wonder why if you're not showing much sign of interest within a shortish time frame. Considering the girl is into you with the moralistic girl type of situation I guess.

I do wonder if there is something in what he says as if a girl thinks you are going to jump into bed with her quick then you could do so with any girl in the future if that girl got into a LTR with you.

Briefly saw a bit on another interview this guy does with a girl and think she says much the same as this guy. Will try and find it when I get time, again it's on You Tube so you guys might be able to look it up. I don't think all women are like this out there but I think it might tie up with some girls seeing a guy wanting sex as reason to want what they want also, clothes, etc. While other girls may only be up for it with a guy they like and won't ask the guy for stuff.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #398 on: November 23, 2019, 07:34:04 AM »
I believe the guy in the video owns a matchmaking business - Match Guarantee.


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« Reply #399 on: November 23, 2019, 07:46:20 AM »
I believe the guy in the video owns a matchmaking business - Match Guarantee.
Yes he does, and i think he does a very good job. I tried to meet him, but no answer.  :popcorn:
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