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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2019, 08:40:21 PM »
I've explained the way to do it by using VM tactics and
not VO tactics. A VM asks a girl for tea and if she is the
girl then he pursues her exclusively. If not he doesn't meet
her again and keeps meeting for tea until he finds one who is.

The wrong way to do it is to have an extensive relationship
building campaign before visiting. That's using VO tactics.

By using this method you don't waste your time OR their
time.

Beel, you aren't 'most guys' who contemplate this adventure..

You are confident and could utter and comprehend some choice Russian.


'VM ' is a recipe for failure - it is speed dating - it's pure folly - for most
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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2019, 06:31:56 AM »
I also met my wife during a WM and after i did a VA.
So we knew physically each other and knew that we are attracted. And so more eager to invest in some correspondance because we had already clicked to the preliminary tests.

I consider that a VO when especially you have at least two full days of travel is pure foly because more than 70% of meetings in a VO are finally a NO NO and not considering the middle and long term effects. (that's what matchmakers are saying).

You have a different opionion MSB and i have a different one.

Read : "Operation white panther"
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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2019, 07:26:48 AM »
I also met my wife during a WM and after i did a VA.
So we knew physically each other and knew that we are attracted. And so more eager to invest in some correspondance because we had already clicked to the preliminary tests.

I consider that a VO when especially you have at least two full days of travel is pure foly because more than 70% of meetings in a VO are finally a NO NO and not considering the middle and long term effects. (that's what matchmakers are saying).

You have a different opionion MSB and i have a different one.

Pat,

This is the 21 Century !  ..  99.9% of ladies with profiles that are real have access to video chat .. unless they live in a village in THE middle of nowhere

One can see who you might decide to visit and unless they have terrible body odour or bad breath  - which you may only find out on arrival -  I fail to see why ANYONE would encounter 'no no' situations ...that's just failing on the diligence front  ;)

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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2019, 08:16:57 AM »
Pat,

This is the 21 Century !  ..  99.9% of ladies with profiles that are real have access to video chat .. unless they live in a village in THE middle of nowhere

One can see who you might decide to visit and unless they have terrible body odour or bad breath  - which you may only find out on arrival -  I fail to see why ANYONE would encounter 'no no' situations ...that's just failing on the diligence front  ;)

FTR I was also a VO. That said, it doesn't matter the century. There is a right way and a wrong way to find Miss Right (for you whomever you may be) whether it be VM or VO. There are literally hundreds of examples of both on this very forum. The right way and the wrong way for both as well. IMHO being dishonest or evasive to a woman is wrong no matter one's choice of method. That will doom a relationship in most instances at some point. Being honest and upfront will likely increase the chances of success.

It is ultimately the woman's choice as well as the man's. Due diligence is necessary  for a VO as well as many follow up trips. Due diligence for a VM, not much at all. There is nothing wrong or dishonest choosing to meet many while one is in-country. The key element is honesty

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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2019, 12:30:37 PM »
I take it that there is not enough other topics here that Nano's Thread has to also be sidetracked by the VO/VM argument.

Hello Nano.  I'm sorry that you are going through the difficulties of international dating.  Normally it is the guys here that lament about difficulties or issues with FSU women.  It is refreshing to hear about the problems FSU women face regarding Western men.


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« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2019, 09:25:24 AM »
I take it that there is not enough other topics here that Nano's Thread has to also be sidetracked by the VO/VM argument.

Good point, there is a VO/VM thread here
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=24041.new#new

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« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2019, 05:57:23 PM »

Hello Nano.  I'm sorry that you are going through the difficulties of international dating.  Normally it is the guys here that lament about difficulties or issues with FSU women.  It is refreshing to hear about the problems FSU women face regarding Western men.

Yes, the FSU women really have it bad.

The western man has to finance everything, they have to make the long trips, they have to deal with real scammers (the ones that steal and otherwise obtain money from western men), they are required to adapt to FSU dating rules, they have to adjust to numerous cultural conventions, they have to put up with silly ideas concerning health, medicine, etc.  But this is nothing compared to what the FSU  women have to put up with in the dating phase.

The women have to put up with receiving a large volume of correspondence . . . all of which can be discarded with the push of a computer key.

Oh the injustice of it !!
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« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2019, 06:49:23 PM »
..and travelling thousands of miles to take tea with lots of women is going to tell YOU WHAT as opposed to extensive video chats and a meeting two people REALLY want?)

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« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2019, 04:29:57 AM »
For the sake of women like Nano : 

As i pay my plane ticket, my flat and all your expenses during the dating. 

It's me who decide HOW i date you. 

If you don't like my rules we purely and simply don't meet and will never meet.
That's simple.   

And I never had a problem to meet women everywhere.
There are plenty. 
 

When a man  or a woman try to avoid the competition the repeated odds will drop them alone one day or an other.
Read : "Operation white panther"
"Je glissais through the paper wall, an angel in the hand, s taboy. I lay on the floor, surgi des chants de Maldoror, je mix l'intégrale de mes nuits de crystal, i belong to the festival.

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« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2019, 10:16:29 AM »
..and travelling thousands of miles to take tea with lots of women is going to tell YOU WHAT as opposed to extensive video chats and a meeting two people REALLY want?)


Pat ( & all)
women have all the same online problems-- scammers lying,deception etc etc
A lot of time can get wasted  --it is not just men.
Yes-men coming from a distance have to spend money to do that --true . BUT--no one forces them to do that-it is entirely voluntary.
Consider -95% plus guys online will never travel--or putting it another way -- will not do what they say they will do.
Throw in those that seek to exploit , or simply unsuitable etc and  you then have a lot more sympathy for all who seek a real life partner online.
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« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2019, 10:25:39 AM »
..and travelling thousands of miles to take tea with lots of women is going to tell YOU WHAT as opposed to extensive video chats and a meeting two people REALLY want?)
We had a feroce partisan of the video conquest, Vincenzo,
Lost for ever.
I think after video 2.0 he faced reality 0.0 and he lost by 3.0

Sorry MSB but my motto is nothing replaces a real meeting.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2019, 11:07:59 AM by Patagonie »
Read : "Operation white panther"
"Je glissais through the paper wall, an angel in the hand, s taboy. I lay on the floor, surgi des chants de Maldoror, je mix l'intégrale de mes nuits de crystal, i belong to the festival.

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« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2019, 10:28:43 AM »
my motto is nothing replaces a real meeting.


100% agree :)
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« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2019, 02:55:28 PM »
BUT--no one forces them to do that-it is entirely voluntary.

Whereas it is different for the women.
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« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2019, 09:52:00 PM »
For the sake of women like Nano : 

As i pay my plane ticket, my flat and all your expenses during the dating. 

It's me who decide HOW i date you. 

If you don't like my rules we purely and simply don't meet and will never meet.
That's simple.   

And I never had a problem to meet women everywhere.
There are plenty. 
 

When a man  or a woman try to avoid the competition the repeated odds will drop them alone one day or an other.

 :ROFL:

Pat, it is you that is excluding 'keepers'..

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Re: Nano's thread
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2019, 06:56:01 PM »
“I am seraching from Russia for international ...“

or that’s what little Nano did skazal...
molodets
you want, “Cultural Learnings of America”?

you got it baby!!!!

first, let’s do what in the West is called “a reality check”, horrosho...
as is typical for Russians you neglected to do one....

let’s start with a simple number, your age...
and let’s make a 2 dimensional graph of the distribution of women’s ages at time of marriage
ohhhhh.....
you know what?
according to this graph, 99% of women who get married are younger than you!!!
gozpedy!
that looks bad for you....
oichen plohoi!!

devushka don't mess with a volshebnik...
I have a soul FAR darker than yours
and when I cut you, you will feel it...






 

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« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2019, 05:04:07 PM »

and when I cut you, you will feel it...

What is it? Is it угроза\сущ. threat, danger, menace, hazard? :arguing:
What I should fear?

Most of man have so much unrealistic wishes that even with visible marriage success - have ugly life with his "beauty" and divorce as result. Yes there is different social role for women and men but time pass for both the same. And very soon you would just ugly old man with night pot drowning in you bad wishes and ugly thoughts and smells not well also.
several post ago you asked me to be friend but I haven't really see you friendly

Patagonie you have bad dating strategy. If you pay for ticket maybe you can demand but only from yourself and not from women you date as you want. You can negotiate this with women but demand ::) - not. This is sort of violence and than you would say I earn money so be tolerate if I offended you. Such men totally disconvenient at marriage life and should be out of dating. Its definitely better to be along than to be with you. 8)

2tallbill maybe its good strategy, especially for women who the same activity as men in dating market and can easily arrange 3-5 dating per evening. But usually its not so much common for women and for me too. Too hard physically and much annoying ::),
 ;) but nice, I would notice
« Last Edit: December 17, 2019, 05:16:27 PM by nano »
Just want to see the other side :)

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Re: Nano's thread
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2019, 06:06:31 PM »
"What I should fear?

Pravda...
the biggest thing you have to fear is the truth about yourself...
truth is the sharpest nosh there is choot choot nano...
sharp enough to cut your soul...

don't confuse a starik with a volshebnik
they may look the same to you...
but they are not...

but you are right, I decided to NOT be your friend...
in Russia they call me Koynov....
Koynov the Volshebnik
and my profession is actually a bitkoynov volshebnik!
see how that works?
you're named after your profession!






« Last Edit: December 17, 2019, 06:17:02 PM by krimster2 »

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Re: Nano's thread
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2019, 06:15:08 PM »
krimster2 do not even attempt...
you marasmus would not sharp my soul and your "pravda" too :devil: 8)
Just want to see the other side :)

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Re: Nano's thread
« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2019, 06:28:32 PM »
the truth is, if you had the qualities men are looking for in a woman, you would have been married when you were at your peak, 20 YEARS ago....
now your chances just get less and less...
and in a couple of more years...
they will be ничего...
horrosho?

so in reality, this is how you are coping with your empty cold life in Moscva...
by dreaming that one day a handsome knight is going to take you to Amerika
and you will live like a princess...
and as long as you have the dream each night when you go to bed...
you can get up and go to work again the next day, and the next, and the next....

awwww.....
that's sweet.....

but you know what?
it's just a dream....
it's NOT going to happen... nyet...
how do I know?
because I AM a volshebnik baby!
and your future is perfectly CLEAR to me...

you will have to learn how to accept being a lonely old woman
who has to live with her regrets
I'd suggest getting a cat!!!!
unless you already have one...
on the other hand, I suspect you would have a problem taking care of someone or something other than yourself...
it is likely a very hard concept for someone with your personality to understand...
I mean, after all, this is the REASON why you're still single at your age AND didn't have children, right?
eta pravda or nyet?

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Re: Nano's thread
« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2019, 06:45:13 PM »
krimster2 hold your thoughts in your marasmatic head. Ok? Well, let my future would CLEAR to you. What you're attached to me as a bath sheet to the ass? I very glad for you as you have so CLEAR mind. Do not impress me with your marasmus again, I could burst out laughing :ROFL: :devilish: Or ask moderator banning you for offensive pursuing.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2019, 06:53:20 PM by nano »
Just want to see the other side :)

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Re: Nano's thread
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2019, 06:53:25 PM »
"marasmatic"

you seem fixated on this term
just so you know...my family left Ukraine before Holodomor...
in America everyone is OVER nourished and not UNDER...
so this term 100% doesn't apply to me...

"Or ask moderator banning you for offensive pursuing."

you mean "telling the truth", sure, go ahead and ask them...
but your attitude and your response just proves my point about you...

enjoy your dream princess....



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« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2019, 07:05:40 PM »
yes, go to show your CLEAR mind and great trustful appearance at another topic with "plenty of fish" and "food" for male's mind :)
Just want to see the other side :)

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« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2019, 07:39:43 PM »
if man does not live by bread alone, then what else is on the menu?
you don't want to talk about YOU?
why is that?

what else do you you want to talk about maya malyshka?
nothing about reality, only dreams?

sure go ahead, tell me about your dreams
what kind of fairy tale adventure is it?
is it romantic and set in an exotic location?
does it have a handsome foreigner who speaks RUSSIAN?
oh my...my heart is beating faster already...I'd better sit down....
such an exciting fairy tale, it's so wonderful...

but I see a totally different story...
involving an ugly large white apartment building in the Moscva snow...
with a lot of ice by the front door..
starozhina
and I bet the neighbors will annoy you on Dec 31, and on Orthodox Christmas shooting off fireworks in front of your apartment
like they did last year and the year before...

wow! you live a long way from the 3 ring road, it must take you a long time and a lot of metro stops to get to work each day!
quite a struggle in the ice and snow!
I bet I know what color your metro station is!!!  if I guess correctly what kind of prize will you give me? a photo?




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Re: Nano's thread
« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2019, 08:29:25 PM »
This site became a cirque for a couple of clowns long ago. One of them is pretending to be a Russian expert but he reminds me a parrot who can only imitate sounds. It's useless to report to moderators, they will not ban him anyway, otherwise who will make traffic here?

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« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2019, 02:49:51 AM »
What is it? Is it угроза\сущ. threat, danger, menace, hazard? :arguing:
What I should fear?

Most of man have so much unrealistic wishes that even with visible marriage success - have ugly life with his "beauty" and divorce as result. Yes there is different social role for women and men but time pass for both the same. And very soon you would just ugly old man with night pot drowning in you bad wishes and ugly thoughts and smells not well also.
several post ago you asked me to be friend but I haven't really see you friendly

Patagonie you have bad dating strategy. If you pay for ticket maybe you can demand but only from yourself and not from women you date as you want. You can negotiate this with women but demand ::) - not. This is sort of violence and than you would say I earn money so be tolerate if I offended you. Such men totally disconvenient at marriage life and should be out of dating. Its definitely better to be along than to be with you. 8)

2tallbill maybe its good strategy, especially for women who the same activity as men in dating market and can easily arrange 3-5 dating per evening. But usually its not so much common for women and for me too. Too hard physically and much annoying ::) ,
 ;) but nice, I would notice
Nano look how the world is nicely build :

If i am in your city and tell hi we can meet and have a tea, you will refuse and that's perfect no?
So you are totally free to no meet me and i don't impose you anything.

You will ask me to return in my country and start a correspondance with you because you told us that you want to have a long correspondance with a man before meeting. That's your right.
 
And my right is to say no i will not, back in my country; start a correspondance with you. Because i don't want to waste months, vacations and a lot of money for a woman who can have found an other man during this time and when i arrive in her city she could even not answer to my calls. Or maybe she meets me and after one hour she leaves and never returns calls (it happens to many men and it happened to me one time during a VO in Swedish).  And that's my right.

Do i use any violence? No i propose women to meet, they are free to not answer to me, they are free to finally not go to the meeting, they are free to leave me when they want during the meeting for any reason and they don't have to justify it, and they are free after the meeting to never contact me again.

We often ask some basic questions to men coming here,
but what's your age and where do you live, children? So we can understand better the problems you are facing during dating. Because you came here to get more understading about men wanting to meet FSU women no?
« Last Edit: December 18, 2019, 02:52:44 AM by Patagonie »
Read : "Operation white panther"
"Je glissais through the paper wall, an angel in the hand, s taboy. I lay on the floor, surgi des chants de Maldoror, je mix l'intégrale de mes nuits de crystal, i belong to the festival.

 

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