It appears you have not registered with our community. To register please click here ...

!!

Welcome to Russian Women Discussion - the most informative site for all things related to serious long-term relationships and marriage to a partner from the Former Soviet Union countries!

Please register (it's free!) to gain full access to the many features and benefits of the site. Welcome!

+-

Author Topic: Money when abroad  (Read 3912 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Online msmob

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7941
  • Country: ie
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2019, 02:06:36 PM »
OK.. this is getting perverse ...

I have a RU bank card waiting for me .. in Russia - but I must collect it .. in person ...  So I cannot use it to send money to me in the UK


We sold a car in RU and I want to buy a better one in the UK and drive it to a third EU nation where we'll spend Xmas / N.year ..( honeymoon)


I wanted SC to send me the money form the sale of the  car in RU ..

She has a fair limit - so it should NOT be a problem ... but .. all of a sudden Paysend say .. "you cannot transfer money from a RU bankcard ( VISA) to a UK one ( VISA) ..   OK,  I have a credit card merchant account - but an overseas  Card hold not Present payment  would lose us an extra .75 % ...on top of the 1.2% we already pay - plus what ever lousy VISA exchange rate it would be ..


So.. what about Revolut ?    Na.. cannot send from RU to UK


Of course she can SWIFT it ... but  still the greedy banks will eat the money in exchanging currencies


Then, I find a newish UK bank that issues a M/Card debit card .... normally it's VISA in the UK - so they tell me I can come in an I'll be issued a card same day .. except I'm not UK resident - so they must do addl checks ..


Last time SC sent me £220 from RU on Paysend and it arrived in minutes ...  It normally takes seconds and much more goes the other way !

It's getting harder to get it out :))



We'll be back, EU ..

Offline krimster2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3803
  • Country: us
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married > 10 years
  • Trips: Resident
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2019, 04:15:41 PM »
that's weird, Aval has something similar, they charge 2% to do that, the same as what you're paying...
but the language they use, is weird, they say, "receive in cash", I wonder if it's different if you wire to an account instead of cash?
but this 2% fee must be something setup in the Russian banking system with this exact rule and exact amount...

even bigger problem for some people in Moscow who have lots of dollars and don't know what to do with them...
can't take them to the bank...
and they're harder to move than they used to be...

so I sell him bitcoin
he gives me dollars
I make a fake bill of sale for a $500,000 property and get it notorized
I am repatriating the money to the USA...
and I file FinCen Form 105 and show it to customs officers soon as I get in line...
and they escort me to a counting room....

been there...
done this, many times...
but no t-shirt (yet!)

BUT...
please remember, if you're a currency smuggler, it's best to leave Russia by train and not plane...

« Last Edit: December 01, 2019, 04:24:33 PM by krimster2 »

Online BillyB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12454
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
    • Good Story
  • Spouse's Country: Ukraine
  • Status: Married 5-10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2019, 05:24:25 PM »

Had a credit card not work on my first trip t the FSU. Anti theft protection kicked in since the credit card company told me they didn't know I was travelling to the FSU. I make a habit of calling up the credit card companies of the cards I'm taking before travelling internationally. Wife and I are going to Cancun for a week before Christmas. All inclusive so I won't need to take too much cash but as a MAN, I will take enough cash so I don't fail my woman. Just today Mexican authorities caught suspects in the shootings of Americans but one can still get their throat slit in Central America. Got a friend who went on a mission to Honduras. A friend of his gave $600 to a native to build a church. After coming home, he got a call that someone slit the guy's throat for the $600. The slitting of throats can happen in America too. My mom rented a place to three Mexican guys and their families. They always paid rent in cash. One day the police came and said the three guys were found in a car parked at a casino with their throats slit. The moral of the story here is to bring a gun to a knife fight to discourage the slitting of your throat.
There are people that will pass info about you and your family. Do not share info about yourself or share photos as they can search for you on the internet and distribute what they found since they are allowed to participate here.

Online Trenchcoat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4740
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Looking 3-5 years
  • Trips: 4 - 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2019, 04:52:44 AM »

the dollar used to be king in Moscow, back in the old days, but NOW the first currency of choice is the Euro...

Just wait till we Brexit Krim, that will put the Great British Pound back on top ;D

Theoretically while the Euro and the Dollar are more universally accepted in the FSU the GBP is also widely accepted (though not in all places) but has a better exchange rate than either, the highest exchange rate in the world I believe. When we Brexit that is likely to get even better again :D

I remember my first trip to Kiev on the way back to the airport I had too little local currency for the taxi ride back (before Uber, Uklon, etc) It was too late to change up more currency so I offered a £20 note instead. Boy that taxi driver readily accepted my offer! Checking several times that I meant that I was offering him £20. Of course it was a little over the odds for the ride back but at the time I had little choice and it showed the power what the old GBP can hold abroad.

Should the Eurozone hit another bad economic crises in the coming years, worse than the previous one the USD and GBP might become the preferred currencies in Russia & Ukraine, etc.
No Deal is Ideal, It's a Free Britain we want :)

Online msmob

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7941
  • Country: ie
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2019, 05:23:11 AM »
Trench,

I realise you don't leave Wales, Much .. but why does the GBP FALL when a 'brexit' ( esp. crashing out )  seems likely and rise when not ?
Thank you




We'll be back, EU ..

Offline krimster2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3803
  • Country: us
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married > 10 years
  • Trips: Resident
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2019, 07:24:01 AM »
“Krim -it is pretty obvious you have smoked too much of the green stuff and your brain is addled to the point it aint functioning”



If I'm not me, who am I?
And If I'm somebody else, why do I look like me?
I am what I am, and that's all that I am!
I'm strong to the finish 'cause I smokes me spinach! i.e. “green stuff"
ahehehehehehehe.....

so, after a pipe full of spinach...
I began to pontificate...

and I see the world gradually being turned into a wilderness, and I hear the approaching thunder...
the world will become not just broken, but shattered into a 1,000 different parts....

for every purpose there is a season...
and the season’s changing....
I can feel it in the morning....
after a bowl of spinach...
ahehehehehehehe.....

I hope the “bad part” in Ukraine will be over quickly without a lot of killing...
I greatly admired the efficiency of the Crimean operation....
it won’t be that easy in Odessa at the end of next year...
but the rest of us can ignore the casualties...
and get on with "bizzness"....
I have to learn to look at the casualties the way that Russians do...

Russian Fenya is ALREADY blowing away Ukrainian Fenya in Odessa...
look what just happened...big shakeup....
Ukraine is crumbling....
Zaftra V O-des-sa!!!

I think my wife would be quite happy with an estate not far outside Odessa coupled with a large apartment on Arcadia....
easy flying distance to Moscva
AND the weather is tolerable....

this is how we lived in Sevastopol...
we'd spend summers and weekends at the Rancho Del Krimster and the rest of the time, in the city...
I can have a home office in Odessa like I do now, but overlooking the Black Sea...
too bad the fishing sucks!

« Last Edit: December 02, 2019, 07:50:12 AM by krimster2 »

Offline fathertime

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7844
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Married 5-10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2019, 07:44:10 AM »
  One day the police came and said the three guys were found in a car parked at a casino with their throats slit. The moral of the story here is to bring a gun to a knife fight to discourage the slitting of your throat.
Where was this casino?  A few months back here in California an old women was killed during a robbery in the bathroom of a large indian casino.  Authorities found the two women that committed the act, but that didn't bring the deceased woman back to life.  Although casinos have a lot of cameras and security it is critical to keep a discreet eye on who is watching you.   I'm certain last year I was being tailed in vegas by 2 guys in the early hours of the morning. They were separated, yet their movements were off and I made brief eye contact with one.    Just as I was about to approach an area where I would be vulnerable, I redoubled back and it seemed to spook them, as it must have been clear I was onto them.   I must have won that night because as I recall, I was carrying megabucks

Fathertime! 
I just happened to be browsing about the internet....

Online BillyB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12454
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
    • Good Story
  • Spouse's Country: Ukraine
  • Status: Married 5-10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2019, 09:11:57 AM »
Where was this casino?  A few months back here in California an old women was killed during a robbery in the bathroom of a large indian casino.  Authorities found the two women that committed the act, but that didn't bring the deceased woman back to life.  Although casinos have a lot of cameras and security it is critical to keep a discreet eye on who is watching you.   I'm certain last year I was being tailed in vegas by 2 guys in the early hours of the morning. They were separated, yet their movements were off and I made brief eye contact with one.    Just as I was about to approach an area where I would be vulnerable, I redoubled back and it seemed to spook them, as it must have been clear I was onto them.   I must have won that night because as I recall, I was carrying megabucks

Fathertime!

The casino is in Washington State and it was an Indian casino. A friend of mine had a leather jacket and had it hanging from his chair. He left for a short time and came back and it was gone. There are thieves in the casino that are watching people to take advantage of them. If you win big, watch your back when leaving the casino.
There are people that will pass info about you and your family. Do not share info about yourself or share photos as they can search for you on the internet and distribute what they found since they are allowed to participate here.

Online Trenchcoat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4740
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Looking 3-5 years
  • Trips: 4 - 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2019, 04:08:51 PM »
Trench,

I realise you don't leave Wales, Much .. but why does the GBP FALL when a 'brexit' ( esp. crashing out )  seems likely and rise when not ?
Thank you

It's because of the uncertainty in general that the UK currency is low. After Brexit things will become more certain again and it will rise. It will also likely rise on a Tory General Election victory that results in a majority government. Markets like a clear outcome to a General Election and one where they believe the government will be reasonably prudent with government spending - basically stability.

If the Tories gain a majority it follows that Boris's EU Deal will almost certainly follow. That gives the markets a lot more certainty over what will be happening. They will know the deal on offer, what we will get and will also see it is not a thousand miles from what we had before in terms of trade. Plus added to that is the prospect of trade deals with the US and other countries. So odds are very likely that the exchange rate for the GBP will rise. You might want to place your bets there Mobers ;) Show your confidence in Brexit by buying sterling.

In fact it is already on the rise, up to 1.17 against the Euro, used to be 1.10-1.13 during the past couple of years or so, so a significant change there already!
« Last Edit: December 02, 2019, 04:11:03 PM by Trenchcoat »
No Deal is Ideal, It's a Free Britain we want :)

Online jone

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6808
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Committed > 1 year
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2019, 04:59:38 PM »
Yes.  But.....

Almost sixty percent of the populace will vote against the Tories so Great Britain will not have a legitimate government.   They should total up all of the votes and group that gets the most votes combined wins.   You know.  Labour and Liberal Democrats make up more votes than the Tories do.   So they should get to form the government!

43% Tories.  But Labour and Lib Dems have 47%.   You see, that's how it works.   And because the Tories only have 43% of the vote, it means that 57% voted against them.   So.  There should be a change in the government that doesn't allow the Tories to form a government.   They didn't get a majority of the vote!

I'm really smart.   I know what's better for England than you guys do who live there.
Kissing girls is a goodness.  It beats the hell out of card games.  - Robert Heinlein

Online Trenchcoat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4740
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Looking 3-5 years
  • Trips: 4 - 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2019, 06:49:29 PM »
Yes.  But.....

Almost sixty percent of the populace will vote against the Tories so Great Britain will not have a legitimate government.   They should total up all of the votes and group that gets the most votes combined wins.   You know.  Labour and Liberal Democrats make up more votes than the Tories do.   So they should get to form the government!

43% Tories.  But Labour and Lib Dems have 47%.   You see, that's how it works.   And because the Tories only have 43% of the vote, it means that 57% voted against them.   So.  There should be a change in the government that doesn't allow the Tories to form a government.   They didn't get a majority of the vote!

I'm really smart.   I know what's better for England than you guys do who live there.

That wouldn't be a slight dig at our Mobers who comments on US politics now would it Jone ;D

If proportional representation was brought in and assuming the Lib Dems went with Labour that would indeed happen. Back in the eighties Labour sometimes for more than the Tories of the popular vote but Thatcher still won the election as under first past the post. Of course the last coalition government was the Tories with the Lib Dems. I think the Lib Dems would be hesitant jumping into bed with the Tories again but then again they seem a wishy washy bunch who can put their own ambitions first.

The main thing is that the Lib Dems would generally end up the king maker under the proportional representation system after nearly all elections. That I have a big bone of contention with as it gives a small party much bigger scope than the 'proportion' of their votes would normally allow. Hence proportional representation ends up as not really proportional. So opri proportional representation is really a myth unless that problem can be resolved somehow.

The other problem is coalitions constantly breaking down and we can see that in mainland Europe. Some resolutions have been made to address the problem there to avoid it constantly going back to the Electorate but in general the problem still remains.

So compared to proportional representation I would rather stick with first past the post. It gives a clear win per constituency and per government. Every so often a coalition can occur but not so frequently that it becomes a pain in the arse that the Electorate would rather not have.
No Deal is Ideal, It's a Free Britain we want :)

Online msmob

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7941
  • Country: ie
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2019, 10:43:40 PM »
 :ROFL:

It's like having to endure listening to two loud drunks sat at the next table talking utter shy**.….

Jone and his 'Great Britain' ( United Kingdom) and Trench posting clueless as to the status of the GBP...

You chaps should take this to the 'brexit' thread..

Back to money abroad...

I have a RU bank account and SC sent me 2k Roubles...which should be about 24 GBP from the same bank.

The interbank rate is approx 83 R to the GBP and yet a withdrawal of 10GBP left only £9.61 GBP?


We had thought about using the sale of the car in EU money and my simply using my RU bank card to pay...but it seems we would lose a fortune in the exchange rate.

So, how to get E-Roubles into a western currency, without getting shafted? I do not want SC walking around with more than Trench's declared annual salary (!) in cash and crossing borders.. )



 




We'll be back, EU ..

Online Trenchcoat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4740
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Looking 3-5 years
  • Trips: 4 - 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2019, 03:10:56 AM »
:ROFL:

It's like having to endure listening to two loud drunks sat at the next table talking utter shy**.….

Jone and his 'Great Britain' ( United Kingdom) and Trench posting clueless as to the status of the GBP...

You chaps should take this to the 'brexit' thread..

Back to money abroad...

I have a RU bank account and SC sent me 2k Roubles...which should be about 24 GBP from the same bank.

The interbank rate is approx 83 R to the GBP and yet a withdrawal of 10GBP left only £9.61 GBP?


We had thought about using the sale of the car in EU money and my simply using my RU bank card to pay...but it seems we would lose a fortune in the exchange rate.

So, how to get E-Roubles into a western currency, without getting shafted? I do not want SC walking around with more than Trench's declared annual salary (!) in cash and crossing borders.. )

Ah our Bonnie and Clyde are hitting hard times I see shuffling the odd few coppers back and forth to each other. Mobe, haven't you got a list of old people's homes you can hit upto solve these money worries for you ;D

Thing is that you seem to make things complicated from the outset Mobers. I just take my Halifax Clarity credit card and use that, it's zero percent commission on the exchange rate and just a case of paying any transaction on it soon after so minimal interest is paid on any purchase overseas. Works out pretty well compared to the cost of converting currency. I still get a few notes upfront but keep the cash side of things low. A Ukrainian woman I saw in front of me in the supermarket had her purse stuffed full of notes. Surprised me as although a cash economy a bit of a risky thing for her to do I thought.

Anyway keep it simple stupid ;D
No Deal is Ideal, It's a Free Britain we want :)

Offline krimster2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3803
  • Country: us
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married > 10 years
  • Trips: Resident
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2019, 05:37:30 AM »
mobers, try bitcoin... exchange fees are smaller...

Online Gator

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14904
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married 5-10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2019, 06:54:34 AM »

I'm really smart.   I know what's better for England than you guys do who live there.


Hear!  Hear!

Online msmob

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7941
  • Country: ie
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2019, 10:20:02 AM »
Hear!  Hear!

..and along comes the performing Seal

'England' is going to be a separate nation, soon  -  if 'we' get what Jone says will be  'good for us' ...  :trainwreck:





Ah our Bonnie and Clyde are hitting hard times I see shuffling the odd few coppers back and forth to each other. Mobe, haven't you got a list of old people's homes you can hit upto solve these money worries for you ;D [


Thing is that you seem to make things complicated from the outset Mobers. I just take my Halifax Clarity credit card and use that, it's zero percent commission on the exchange rate and just a case of paying any transaction on it soon after so minimal interest is paid on any purchase overseas. Works out pretty well compared to the cost of converting currency. I still get a few notes upfront but keep the cash side of things low. A Ukrainian woman I saw in front of me in the supermarket had her purse stuffed full of notes. Surprised me as although a cash economy a bit of a risky thing for her to do I thought.

Anyway keep it simple stupid ;D



Try READING, Trench ..   There's more than your claimed salary ..and some, there ..Do Halifax operate in Russia and have Rouble accounts ?  The subject at hand is getting dosh from Russia


mobers, try bitcoin... exchange fees are smaller...

Thank you, Kimster..

I know f'all about Bitcoins...will read up 

OK, *I* can easily convert currency to bitcoin using revolut .. but HOW to covert Roubles to Bitcoin ?


PS: Seems like Bitcoin value is heading down (

No idea how to get 'in' and 'out' before losing more ;)







« Last Edit: December 03, 2019, 10:27:19 AM by msmob »
We'll be back, EU ..

Online BillyB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12454
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
    • Good Story
  • Spouse's Country: Ukraine
  • Status: Married 5-10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2019, 12:20:34 PM »
PS: Seems like Bitcoin value is heading down (

No idea how to get 'in' and 'out' before losing more ;)

Look on the bright side. You can buy the mining equipment cheap right now .
There are people that will pass info about you and your family. Do not share info about yourself or share photos as they can search for you on the internet and distribute what they found since they are allowed to participate here.

Online msmob

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7941
  • Country: ie
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2019, 12:17:30 AM »
One thing I have read about Bitcoin mining ..  Unless you get free electric and have a super computer .. you are wasting your time / money, now
We'll be back, EU ..

Offline krimster2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3803
  • Country: us
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married > 10 years
  • Trips: Resident
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2019, 07:53:35 AM »
yup!!
actually, 2% CC charge ain't bad mobers....
I used to do all my Ukrainian/Russian sales in dollars to simplify, since it was easy to dispose of dollars in Russia/Ukraine OR repatriot...
now it's euros and rubles...sterling is a secondary currency, not very common in Moscow, so it means your forex rate's gonna be less...
the only dollars I touch in Moscva, are from people who want to dispose of a lot, and are willing to pay my commission...
I could pretty much make a living just from doing this....
but it's just a side gig, that provides me a LOT of useful networking...




Online BillyB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12454
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
    • Good Story
  • Spouse's Country: Ukraine
  • Status: Married 5-10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2019, 09:23:56 AM »
One thing I have read about Bitcoin mining ..  Unless you get free electric and have a super computer .. you are wasting your time / money, now


Strange an article would say that. The current value of bitcoin is over 7 times higher than it was at anytime prior to 2017 and electricity back then were not much cheaper and computers were weaker. Also Bitcoin was harder to mine. I think a lot of people are getting out of it because they don't understand what they're doing.

One doesn't need a supercomputer. A digital coin motherboard is sold for around $50 and mining digital coins doesn't need a powerful processor. A $20 cheap used one will work. Just need powerful graphics cards preferably Radeon over Nvidia. Used cards are being sold at a fraction of the price it was a year ago when bitcoin hit over 20K. One can flash the BIOS on the graphics cards for free to improve efficiency. Websites available to show how to do that. Antminers are cheap too now.

I don't do digital coin mining but my second business of making custom PCs uses a lot of the same hardware. Krimster probably is the one to talk to about mining digital coins but he probably don't want to talk and give up his secrets.
There are people that will pass info about you and your family. Do not share info about yourself or share photos as they can search for you on the internet and distribute what they found since they are allowed to participate here.

Online msmob

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7941
  • Country: ie
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Money when abroad
« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2019, 02:36:20 AM »
So, Revolut are redeeming themselves ..

For someone travelling abroad and needing to pay in multiple currencies .. It's impressed me with the exchange rates
We'll be back, EU ..

 

+-RWD Stats

Members
Total Members: 9993
Latest: CRINRKE
New This Month: 7
New This Week: 1
New Today: 1
Stats
Total Posts: 497052
Total Topics: 19532
Most Online Today: 1979
Most Online Ever: 12701
(January 14, 2020, 07:04:55 AM)
Users Online
Members: 31
Guests: 1901
Total: 1932

+-Recent Posts

Re: Going the distance by Trenchcoat
Today at 04:25:46 AM

Re: Newly Joining the Married Club: Steve and T by msmob
Today at 03:44:26 AM

Re: Going the distance by msmob
Today at 03:33:30 AM

Re: Going the distance by Trenchcoat
Today at 02:11:18 AM

Re: Operation White Panther by Patagonie
Today at 01:53:35 AM

Re: Kobe Bryant Fatal Helicopter Crash by calmissile
Today at 01:43:33 AM

Re: Going the distance by msmob
Today at 01:04:23 AM

Re: Going the distance by Trenchcoat
Today at 12:18:41 AM

Re: Starting and Running a Business in the Republic of Georgia, Batumi by Maxx2
Yesterday at 11:42:15 PM

Re: Russian Woman & US Tourist Visa by msmob
Yesterday at 11:31:26 PM

Powered by EzPortal