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What the numbers tell us
« on: March 10, 2020, 08:23:55 PM »
I was able to find the below link to the US citizenship and immigration services site. 

http://tinyurl.com/uzjtcnr

Per this site, in 2017 almost 33,000 fiancée petitions were approved. 

Also, per this site, in 2017 there were approximately 10,000 requests for self petitioning spouse of abusive u.s.c. or lpr. 

Would it be safe to say that 1 in 3 fiancée visas result in a domestic abuse claim? 
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Re: What the numbers tell us
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2020, 09:08:08 PM »
no, your assumption is that the year the visa was issued and the year of the DV report are ALWAYS in the same year...
or that ONLY the 90 day period counted towards this

not necessarily true, you need to find the length of time that these rules apply
my guess is 5 years
so the number would be about 1/5 of what you claimed
or 1 out of 15, which seems about right to me

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Re: What the numbers tell us
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2020, 09:30:54 PM »
you need to go into another page and you see the Vawa claims. 

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Re: What the numbers tell us
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2020, 09:46:30 PM »
Krimster the abuse claims are definitely more than 1 in 15.  I've even heard from people at work how its very common amongst certain segments of the Hispanic community. 

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Re: What the numbers tell us
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2020, 10:32:54 PM »
Also, per this site, in 2017 there were approximately 10,000 requests for self petitioning spouse of abusive u.s.c. or lpr. 


What form number is used to self petition spouse abuse?
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Re: What the numbers tell us
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2020, 10:44:21 PM »
It's called Vawa. 

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Re: What the numbers tell us
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2020, 11:12:31 PM »
It's called Vawa.

Most women abused didn't come here with marriage or fiancée visas and get beat up by American citizens. Most immigrants in America come here through some sort of immigration visa and most likely with their immigrant family. If an immigrant beats up their kids, parents or spouse, their family and spouse can self petition for a green card through VAWA. In some cases an abused woman doesn't need to be married to him to qualify for VAWA benefits. Although it's Violence Against Women's Act, males can benefit too if they are abused.

http://www.uscis.gov/green-card/green-card-vawa-self-petitioner
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Re: What the numbers tell us
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2020, 01:22:46 AM »
You're saying a woman on a student visa for example can claim abuse? 

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Re: What the numbers tell us
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2020, 04:12:56 AM »
There are a few good threads on this topic. Rather than jump to conclusions based on two numbers,  I suggest you search the forum for 'fiancée petitions.' One of our members is an Attorney familiar with the VAWA petitions, and has contributed useful information on the subject

With that said, I think this is a serious issue that all men must understand before they sponsor a fiancée.  Because its too easy for a woman with bad intentions to scam her sponsor

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Re: What the numbers tell us
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2020, 05:31:37 AM »
Would it be safe to say that 1 in 3 fiancée visas result in a domestic abuse claim?

No.

VAWA is a subset of I-130. VAWA, contrary to what most believe, is not gender/partner specific. I-130 covers a whole gambit of visa holders/applicants, legal or otherwise. For example, cases involving Amerasian applicants can be classified as an ‘abuse’ by a usc or lpr if neglect can be proven in a case. Neglect is abuse.

Here’s the link you referred to.

Scroll down to the bottom and click the Q3 data information
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Re: What the numbers tell us
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2020, 08:10:49 AM »
You're saying a woman on a student visa for example can claim abuse?

VAWA if family based so if their family member is here legally and beat them up, yes they can apply for a green card under VAWA. If they are violently abused by a pimp that forced them into prostitution, there's another route they can take to get a green card.
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Re: What the numbers tell us
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2020, 03:42:26 AM »
There are a few good threads on this topic. Rather than jump to conclusions based on two numbers,  I suggest you search the forum for 'fiancée petitions.' One of our members is an Attorney familiar with the VAWA petitions, and has contributed useful information on the subject

With that said, I think this is a serious issue that all men must understand before they sponsor a fiancée.  Because its too easy for a woman with bad intentions to scam her sponsor

Can you provide me a link to the posts by the attorney please. 

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Re: What the numbers tell us
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2020, 07:11:38 PM »
Genmish could you reply to the above.  thanks. 

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