2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)

[BC]

Gator,

I can imagine that the combination of sunlight, heat and humidity can kill the virus.  After all, humidity unless at very high temperature is mostly tiny growing droplets of water and water droplets can work like a magnifying glass to the more tiny virus inside.   Combination of UV light, heat and water maybe works faster than any alone.

Virus obviously thrives high humidity and liquid environment like lungs, missing the light part.  Guess good conditions to strip its shell and inject into more fertile cells.

Some say smokers are worse off, others say better off but that be demographic with most smokers 'gone' within the most vulnerable age groups.

[BC]

Garp's father ??

LOL that's the idea.. gonna go have a quick chat with the wife and get all this in my will...   It will start sorta like a mission impossible movie with the tape machine that burns up after playing one time...

'Should you accept this mission and succeed....'

[GQBlues]

I heard this on the news last night, and then saw this NYT article about the same thing. Maybe another deposit to the evolving notion that there are in fact far more infected folks then the symptomatic lot.

In Italy, apparently if the report is correct, are bracing at the prospect the whole 'stay-at-home' mandate is a 'ticking-time-bomb' waiting to explode.

Gives new meaning to the phrase, "it's safe(fer) to come out of the house now".

[BillyB]

I heard this on the news last night, and then saw this NYT article about the same thing. Maybe another deposit to the evolving notion that there are in fact far more infected folks then the symptomatic lot.

In Italy, apparently if the report is correct, are bracing at the prospect the whole 'stay-at-home' mandate is a 'ticking-time-bomb' waiting to explode.

Gives new meaning to the phrase, "it's safe to come out of the house now".

Reminds me of Chris Cuomo getting infected a month ago and stayed at home. His wife and two of his kids got infected. If anybody has an infected person at home, that person needs to be isolated in a room and the vent to the room needs to be closed if there is one. Like what was shown in a recent restaurant simulation, air circulating in the home can spread the virus too.

UV sterilization lamps like the one in the link may kill viruses in the home and car. If used in a room with a sick person, do not place it where the light gets to their eyes or skin. UV grow lights do not kill bacteria or viruses since they are on a different wavelength.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UV-Disinfection-Lamp-Sterilization-Germicidal-Light-USB/174223186688?hash=item289082db00:g:Q~kAAOSwnTBeWm~N

[Gator]

Boy, these daily briefings are getting pretty dangerous with all the unproven anecdotal information that is being basted out in desperation.

Trump today dismissed the "injection of disinfectant" as sarcasm directed at a "fake news" reporter.  Not even Fox was buying that.

Personally I believe Trump may be working too much.  He has 10X the acumen of Biden, yet these days Trump is working 'around the clock' on many fronts besides public health.  He has meeting after meeting with complex presentations and data  on subjects such as global oil production, Iranian missile tests, national debt, China trade, stock market, the election campaign, North Korea, immigration......

He needs to let others speak more yet still keep his role of synthesizing all.     

[tfcrew]

[msmob]

Trump today dismissed the "injection of disinfectant" as sarcasm directed at a "fake news" reporter.  Not even Fox was buying that.

Personally I believe Trump may be working too much.

Meanwhile some of us saw the signs of derangement, much earlier .. before he even 'won' ...

  He has meeting after meeting with complex presentations and data  on subjects such as global oil production, Iranian missile tests, national debt, China trade, stock market, the election campaign, North Korea, immigration......

Ah yes, like he has a track record of 'success' on any of those subjects .. managing to alienate ALLIES on Iran and if it wasn't for the virus, he'd have the spotlight shining on him re kicking off a dumb trade war and tipping us ( that's the world )  into recession ..

He needs to be eased aside and someone with a clue take over...   

[Gator]

....and if it wasn't for the virus, he'd have the spotlight shining on him re kicking off a dub trade war and tipping us ( that's the world )  into recession ..

Complete nonsense, and nothing to do with the topic. 


 

[msmob]

Complete nonsense, and nothing to do with the topic.

Considering your 'leader' is constantly tweeting and spouting bollox ...you'll forgive my wry smile..

[Gator]

Considering your 'leader' is constantly tweeting and spouting bollox ...you'll forgive my wry smile..

Do you realize you exhibit many of Trump's flaws?    In other words:  POT....KETTLE....BLACK.


The one difference is that you end up opposite of him on the policy spectrum.     

[Grumpy]

Some may find the following links interesting. 

http://www.elilabs.com/corona_by_state.html
"you will find graphs from raw data showing number of new cases each day for the past 60 days, for the entire US, and for each of the states therein. The raw data file also contains by county data, but the graphs do not go to that depth of detail.

I plotted these originally a week ago because I wasn't seeing the data the way I wanted to see it. From these graphs, as noisy as the data is, one can usually see whether a given state has passed the peak in the infection. The noisyness is really bad. It appears that a case is attributed to the day its test results are received, not to the day the sample was taken, nor to the day symptoms first appeared. It looks like the delay between sample and results is prety variable. Maybe they ran out of a reagent at a certain lab; maybe a weekend intervened and th lab didn't work on weekends. I don't know, but its pretty messy."
Quote from link's author

http://rt.live/
 link to the excellent graphical study by the founders of instagram.

[msmob]

Do you realize you exhibit many of Trump's flaws?    In other words:  POT....KETTLE....BLACK.

'Sure', I'm a repeatedly failed businessman, a misogynist and have to have real experts telling the public what I really meant

The one difference is that you end up opposite of him on the policy spectrum.   

IF you mean, I 'get' that man-kind is screwing up the planet, believe in social healthcare within a entrepreneurial based economy and find patriotism rather silly ... You're right !

[Gator]

'Sure'...

To elaborate, your posts are in the same vein as Trump's tweets:  attack, attack, attack, often misspeaking the facts.     

There are differences:  Trump boasts, Trump develops.  Not you as that would smack of optimism.   

There's more. 

[msmob]

To elaborate, your posts are in the same vein as Trump's tweets:  attack, attack, attack, often misspeaking the facts.     

There are differences:  Trump boasts, Trump develops.  Not you as that would smack of optimism.   

There's more

Good morning, Gator !

MY posts are most unlike 'Trampu's' as I don't have a team of advisors then ignore 'em .. I challenge your blind faith and optimism in the serial screw-up's foreign and trade policies and his clear lack of leadership.

That you continue to rely on repeating bollox about my alleged lack of veracity, with no facts to back it up,  when your / your 'leader' gets busted for stupid claims amuses  ..

I'm only sorry this virus came along to save 'Trampu' from his certain, fall as the economy went into reverse and watch to see who he'd blame.. 


At least now, more of us see the character of the man, his petulance ( when oft busted ) and total unsuitability to represent your great nation ... The magic 'woofle dust' is wearing off and the Emperor really wasn't wearing any clothes ..


Perhaps my being right all along irks you ?

[Gator]

MY posts....

I must have hit a nerve, because this post is different.  Unlike your usual postings, you took time to compose and spell. 

Perhaps my being right all along irks you ?  

Your constant self-denial reminds me of Jameis Winston.  He would throw long TDs, yet lose a game because of pick 6s, and then have the gall to claim to reporters, "I was ballin' today." 

The former No. 1 overall draft pick and still young Jameis was released and has yet to find a team willing to take him as their backup QB. 

Differences between you and Jameis - he threw many TDs, mostly because he had great receivers.     

So, yes, I agree with FP above.  Such as, Trump's trade negotiations with China were not pushing the global economy into recession.     

[BC]

So, yes, I agree with FP above.  Such as, Trump's trade negotiations with China were not pushing the global economy into recession.   

Supply and demand.  US tariffs made many things from China a bit cheaper here, at least in relative terms, maybe more.

I used to buy a new Apple laptop or iMac on my trips to the USA or other apple goodies.  Nowadays I just buy it here as the prices are essentially the same when deducting sales tax and posting as business expense.

[GQBlues]

Trump today dismissed the "injection of disinfectant" as sarcasm directed at a "fake news" reporter.  Not even Fox was buying that.

Personally I believe Trump may be working too much.  He has 10X the acumen of Biden, yet these days Trump is working 'around the clock' on many fronts besides public health.  He has meeting after meeting with complex presentations and data  on subjects such as global oil production, Iranian missile tests, national debt, China trade, stock market, the election campaign, North Korea, immigration...…

He needs to let others speak more yet still keep his role of synthesizing all.     

I do too!

Despite his occasional 'faux pas' (sorry, FP), which are no more than the last stooge we had, Trump had this nation at a prosperous point never achieved by any POTUS before him - and that's doing it in less than the 4 years of his first term!!!

He took on so many fronts Obama can only dream about..trashed TPP/Nafta/ISIL/etc...unprecedentedly improved minority employment numbers all in the same period!

He never have, or will never, sell this country out like Obama/Biden did.

Keep America Great!

[Faux Pas]

I do too!

Despite his occasional 'faux pas' (sorry, FP), which are no more than the last stooge we had, Trump had this nation at a prosperous point never achieved by any POTUS before him - and that's doing it in less than the 4 years of his first term!!!

He took on so many fronts Obama can only dream about..trashed TPP/Nafta/ISIL/etc...unprecedentedly improved minority employment numbers all in the same period!

He never have, or will never, sell this country out like Obama/Biden did.

Keep America Great!

You should've added (IMO) that he is/was all of that and more as an unpaid President and as a career businessman, not a politican

[GQBlues]

You should've added (IMO) that he is/was all of that and more as an unpaid President and as a career businessman, not a politican

You're right but that fact is the just the icing on a cake. Besides, consider the recipients. A liberal ex-pat who hardly have any in-ground experience of events in-country other than what it ingests from CNN/MSNBC feed, and, well...the other usual suspect is simply a troll.

[GQBlues]

Supply and demand.  US tariffs made many things from China a bit cheaper here, at least in relative terms, maybe more.

I used to buy a new Apple laptop or iMac on my trips to the USA or other apple goodies.  Nowadays I just buy it here as the prices are essentially the same when deducting sales tax and posting as business expense.

That's awesome! Then you have another good reason to be a Trump fan! He just made your life so much easier without even you noticing it! Even blokes like you unintendedly benefit from our Pres's business acumen.

Under Obama, the stooge had you having to come to the US just to get it 'cheaper'. What a waste, eh?

Although I question how many Apple Laptops or iMac do you 'buy' to actually reap the 'benefit' of buying it where you are? Or is that just a stretch on your part to make a blind point, e.g. payday loans?

[msmob]

Now we have GQB and Mr Mistake fawning over 'Trampu's' 'business acumen' ? ..

Gosh, I wish I could stiff creditors and banks for millions and millions ( SIX times )  and still be so addressed ...?

Reading their ramblings about his 'successes' one has to wonder what sort of 'filters' some US voters possess..

[BC]

Not quite GQ, pricing has levelled over the years.  Last couple years pretty much the same except that here sales tax is already added to the price which gets reimbursed.

I'm looking at three imac's, two 27 inch I use in a dual monitor work setup and a macbook to watch news right now in my home office.  Another mac on a desk nearby for the help.  One macbook in the travel bag, an ipad in the car, another that I use around the house.  Wife has a mac, daughter has one, son has one and we pretty much everyone has an iphone and ipad. Throw in a couple of watches on top and a few routers and access points around the house and garden.  If that's a stretch in your dictionary quite ok.

[GQBlues]

Not quite GQ, pricing has levelled over the years.  Last couple years pretty much the same except that here sales tax is already added to the price which gets reimbursed.

I'm looking at three imac's, two 27 inch I use in a dual monitor work setup and a macbook to watch news right now in my home office.  Another mac on a desk nearby for the help.  One macbook in the travel bag, an ipad in the car, another that I use around the house.  Wife has a mac, daughter has one, son has one and we pretty much everyone has an iphone and ipad. Throw in a couple of watches on top and a few routers and access points around the house and garden.  If that's a stretch in your dictionary quite ok.

Actually no. I can see it. Me, personally, I no longer bother with such clutter. That's behind me these days, you know. That's why you have happy helpers. Something about *no longer what you do, but what you know* talk, no?

My office basically have a desk, lounge room with a couch and two chairs against a nice backdrop view from floor to ceiling windows w/ automated blinds. There's a door that leads to a semi-conference room with the big table to make me feel important - plus a 60" 4K LED UHD monitor,,,and the silly little squawk box to yell at people when I'm in the mood..

I guess this keeps me from getting payday loans, man. But I'm happy to see you're still hard at it!

[ML]

As I have posted before . . . bankruptcies and reorganizations are common place in real estate developments.

One study indicated the typical shopping mall development goes through 2 bankruptcies before the third owners/developers finally made a go of it.

I have been lucky in my small R.E development activities because I have never used any borrowed money.

With use of debt, you might be able to magnify your gains to equity share . . . but the potential for loss of everything is much greater also.

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As side note:  Most people are very mistaken about the risk/return tradeoff.

Common misconception is:  High returns follow from taking high risk.  Not true.

Real situation:  If you earn high returns, then you probably have incurred high risk, knowingly or not.

On the other hand:  If you do knowingly enter a high risk venture . . . you might achieve high returns, normal returns or negative returns.  Negative returns are just as likely as high returns . . . that's why it's called high risk.

And:  If you enter into low risk ventures, you will likely earn low returns and maybe even negative returns, and a very small chance that you might get high returns.

This misconception regarding risk/return is held by many USA folks . . . but is almost universally held by FSU folks.

[GQBlues]

BTW, IIRC, a very famous POTUS, whose face appear in our currency, once personally declared bankruptcy, an act which Trump never did. As a result, his horse was carted away to help pay for some of his debt.

":::that's actually good trivia: "Who am I?::"

Walt Disney also once filed for BK. LMAO.