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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1700 on: September 21, 2020, 12:57:06 PM »
Yes, that is why the Chinese restricted domestic travel. 

Knowing it was a huge problem, why allow international travel from Wuhan.

It only allowed repatriation flights from 23rd January

From the time the virus was know to be a BIG problem, to lockdown, China reacted faster than the US, who had lots of warnings ..and people were flying all over the US from hubs


By then, the horse had bolted, anyway




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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1701 on: September 21, 2020, 06:42:04 PM »
The gift that keeps on giving.  LMAO!


Good ol Sleepy Joe.
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1702 on: September 21, 2020, 06:46:21 PM »
The gift that keeps on giving.  LMAO!


Good ol Sleepy Joe.

Funny as heck. But Paris Hilton looks better!!

(There was an advert for a Paris documentary right after that played. Paris reminds me of how AW were in the 80's)
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1704 on: September 21, 2020, 10:42:00 PM »

Chinese billionaire who criticized the Chinese President for his handling of the coronavirus disappeared in March. He is found guilty and will be sentenced to 18 years in prison. The Chinese court is one of the best in the world with a 99% conviction success rate.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ren-zhiqiang-chinese-tycoon-who-criticized-xi-jinpings-handling-of-coronavirus-jailed-for-18-years/ar-BB19hzdK?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1705 on: September 22, 2020, 05:19:40 AM »
Evidently, it ain't over until the fat lady sings (or we have a vaccine)

 

Source:  NY Times


My state of Florida has seen a steady decline of weekly cases from 3,000 per million in July (almost twice the national average)  to  800 per million this past week (about equal to the national average).   This decline over the summer resulted from individual behavior because government mitigation measures were not tightened. 

Of particular note is the weekly death rate has remained low, dropping from 40 per million in July to 29 this past week.     

Although Florida has not experienced a noticeable uptick in weekly new cases in Florida, the Europe trend is alarming, particularly considering we never crushed the spread of the virus.   It may be the start of Fall, yet Florida weather is still humid and warm. 

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1706 on: September 22, 2020, 05:48:05 AM »
Spain has had an uptick during late summer and pleasant weather..

As have many Greek islands

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1707 on: September 23, 2020, 11:24:42 AM »
MORE VACCINE NEWS

Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)

There has been talk of the FDA approving one or more vaccines for emergency use, such as administering to frontline healthcare workers  first responders.  This may eventually happen; however, The FDA rules do not allow this to happen before the election.


Johnson & Johnson  Vaccine

This renown pharmaceutical company is starting Phase III trails on 60,000 volunteers.  The vaccine is using a viral vector platform that has been researched by J&J for years.  Two factors differentiate it from the other Operation Warp Speed vaccines now in Phase 3 trials (Moderna, Pfizer, AZ-Oxford):

           1.  Most of the 60,000 tests are using a single dose.

           2.  If the vaccine proves safe and effective, its broader use is facilitated by not requiring sub-zero temperature storage.
 

Pfizer Vaccine

The Pfizer vaccine has the furthermost progress of the Operation Warp Speed development candidates. It is reporting some early results from its Phase 3 trial involving 44,000 volunteers.  The goal of the trail is to make efficacy determinations upon reaching a total of 164 virus infections among the 44,000 subjects.   To date, only 32 infections have occurred, and an undisclosed number of those are mildly symptomatic.  Also  not disclosed is how many of the infections were in the placebo group vs. the dosed group. 

Making any efficacy determinations before reaching the goal of 164 infections is debatable.   Also, the small number of infections  indicates how rare it is to become infected.   



 


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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1708 on: September 23, 2020, 11:34:34 AM »
   Also, the small number of infections  indicates how rare it is to become infected.

That's difficult to say with any accuracy.  Have to calculate how long since injection (the time they were considered not to have been infected prior) which is variable as all were not given shots at the same time, probably many just getting their second shot along with increased number of subjects from 30k to 44k that is probably ongoing.

Not enough data to support 'rare'. 

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1709 on: September 23, 2020, 12:28:16 PM »
Well, at least Fauci is standing up well to GOP pressure, while Birx reportedly is having some difficulty to toe Trump's line since Trump found someone else that better fits his agenda.

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1710 on: September 23, 2020, 12:54:03 PM »
Well, at least Fauci is standing up well to GOP pressure, while Birx reportedly is having some difficulty to toe Trump's line since Trump found someone else that better fits his agenda.


What do you mean? Did fake news put out an article that says scientists are fighting with politicians again? Scientists and medical experts are supposed to put out advice and politicians are supposed to run the country based off expert advice coming in from all directions which include from experts in economics.


The Pfizer vaccine has the furthermost progress of the Operation Warp Speed development candidates. It is reporting some early results from its Phase 3 trial involving 44,000 volunteers.  The goal of the trail is to make efficacy determinations upon reaching a total of 164 virus infections among the 44,000 subjects.   To date, only 32 infections have occurred, and an undisclosed number of those are mildly symptomatic.  Also  not disclosed is how many of the infections were in the placebo group vs. the dosed group. 

Making any efficacy determinations before reaching the goal of 164 infections is debatable.   Also, the small number of infections  indicates how rare it is to become infected.   


I wonder how many volunteers come from the age group that are most likely to die from? I don't expect a lot of older people volunteering knowing the vaccines may not work or may not protect a high percentage of people.
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1711 on: September 23, 2020, 01:06:52 PM »
Holy Infection Insertion, Batman! From curfew to calling in the army?!?!?


 :ROFL:


But I thought they were so *unselfish* and disciplined with their lockdown programs over there!!!

http://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/22/what-europe-is-doing-to-tackle-its-coronavirus-surge-.html

http://apnews.com/0e5766bdb37e735169281fa5a4ff1b3f
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LMAO! This virus is certainly humbling, isn't it? It's like golf in the way that it gives folks pause and refrain from chest beating too much!!!
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1712 on: September 23, 2020, 02:07:42 PM »
What do you mean?

Have you been watching the hearings? What news do you watch or read?

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1713 on: September 23, 2020, 02:14:31 PM »
Holy Infection Insertion, Batman! From curfew to calling in the army?!?!?

 :ROFL:

But I thought they were so *unselfish* and disciplined with their lockdown programs over there!!!

LMAO! This virus is certainly humbling, isn't it? It's like golf in the way that it gives folks pause and refrain from chest beating too much!!![/size][/font]

Certainly, nothing to belittle or laugh at.  Yes, some countries are having to move to more strict, prudent measures after the holidays and schools back in session, along with getting things back on track before autumn/winter flu season.  IOW they are taking the alarming rise in cases and deaths very seriously now so that full lockdowns are not necessary.

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1714 on: September 23, 2020, 02:34:16 PM »
Have you been watching the hearings? What news do you watch or read?

You're the one claiming Fauci is standing up to GOP pressure. What are they pressuring him about?
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1715 on: September 23, 2020, 05:06:54 PM »
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1716 on: September 23, 2020, 05:48:36 PM »

Not enough data to support 'rare'.

Simple math will suffice.  In my state of Florida (not long ago an epicenter of the pandemic) the daily odds today of an individual testing positive are  about 1-in-9,000.   I call that "rare." 

Over two months, the odds of testing positive would thus be 1-in-150. With 44,000 trail subjects, that suggests 300 total infections.  If the vaccine is 75% effective, that reduces the expected result to 75 infections, less than half of the trial's goal. 

Pfizer likely conducted the trails in areas with higher infection rates than Florida.  Also, some of the 44,000 subjects were placebos.   

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1717 on: September 23, 2020, 05:54:37 PM »
I wonder how many volunteers come from the age group that are most likely to die from? I don't expect a lot of older people volunteering knowing the vaccines may not work or may not protect a high percentage of people.

I did not read the details, yet recall one speaker saying the test focused on those from 18 to 55 yo. 

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1718 on: September 23, 2020, 05:58:26 PM »
You're the one claiming Fauci is standing up to GOP pressure. What are they pressuring him about?

Not much news.  Some entertainment however, such as Sen. Rand Paul saying Sweden's herd immunity strategy is working and Fauci replying, "If you believe that Senator, you are alone." 

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1719 on: September 23, 2020, 06:23:26 PM »

Rand Paul doesn't represent the GOP. He's really an independent that ran as a Republican to get the job. If there's one guy in the Senate that would believe the coronavirus was overblown for conspiracy theory reasons, it's Rand. I'm not surprised he was hard on Fauci.
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1720 on: September 23, 2020, 09:57:05 PM »
Not much news.  Some entertainment however, such as Sen. Rand Paul saying Sweden's herd immunity strategy is working and Fauci replying, "If you believe that Senator, you are alone."

Fauci has a point

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/stockholm-coronavirus-restrictions-sweden-cases-rising-b551674.html

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1721 on: September 24, 2020, 12:16:08 PM »
Well the Coronavirus numbers here in the UK are now up around the numbers in the first wave. We're now running into winter and the gov's 'eat out to help out' scheme and letting Brits go abroad on holiday is looking a big mistake in terms of raising virus figures once more. In Scotland, Glasgow uni has had to go into quarantine measures after 126 students tested positive after fresher week activities. They go back a week sooner than English uni students so we are likely to see outbreaks at English Universities in the week to come.

This winter is already looking like it could be a bad one and all we have to show for it is having to see the horror of fat girls in g-strings on beaches at home and abroad >:(
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1722 on: September 24, 2020, 12:31:30 PM »
Well the Coronavirus numbers here in the UK are now up around the numbers in the first wave. We're now running into winter and the gov's 'eat out to help out' scheme and letting Brits go abroad on holiday is looking a big mistake in terms of raising virus figures once more. In Scotland, Glasgow uni has had to go into quarantine measures after 126 students tested positive after fresher week activities. They go back a week sooner than English uni students so we are likely to see outbreaks at English Universities in the week to come.

This winter is already looking like it could be a bad one and all we have to show for it is having to see the horror of fat girls in g-strings on beaches at home and abroad >:(

"The horror of fat girls in g-strings..."
 :ROFL:

Or maybe the worldwide media is still manipulating this story for nefarious purpose, because they can.
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1723 on: September 25, 2020, 04:59:07 PM »
Florida may see the number of daily positive cases start to uptick.   I say this based on my son having to attend three "gatherings," e. g.,  a mandatory continuing education seminar .  He says the percentage of people  wearing masks has dropped considerably from just a few weeks ago.   Most stores still require masks to enter.   

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #1724 on: September 25, 2020, 07:03:19 PM »
Florida may see the number of daily positive cases start to uptick.   I say this based on my son having to attend three "gatherings," e. g.,  a mandatory continuing education seminar .  He says the percentage of people  wearing masks has dropped considerably from just a few weeks ago.   Most stores still require masks to enter.

The increase and now massive testing it would seem is going to drive up the numbers. However, in consideration of all of the preventative measures taken, do you get the feeling someone is pulling the strings on the numbers as far as "upticks" go? They said there would be one in July, there was then they said there would be one when schools opened in the fall, there is. Now they're saying there will be another massive one with the winter flu season. They have a firm grip on the fearmongering and refuse to let it go

 

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