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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2025 on: November 25, 2020, 09:27:28 AM »
Not my point all all. 

To be explicit - I was hoping for intellectually rigorous discussions of science and the implications of a pandemic. 


So, let's discuss the good lady's theory re MMR giving Kids increased immunity ..

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2026 on: November 25, 2020, 09:38:00 AM »
http://www.unicef.org/press-releases/over-20-million-children-worldwide-missed-out-measles-vaccine-annually-past-8-years

I would expect a larger number of young children would be very ill today.

What may be happening is that young children's immune system is more 'tuned in' to new variations of coronavirus in general, whereas we older folks have had maybe a cold or two per year over our lifetime.  Is this 'confusing' our immune systems?  Buh... who knows. 

There is so much we still do not know, such as whether or not vaccine reduces or prevents viral shedding, or if receiving multiple types of vaccines will help or hurt etc.

Simply too soon, but only a matter of time.  Till then we'll have to be patient and a bit wary of unproven conclusions.

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2027 on: December 03, 2020, 08:28:40 AM »
Over 3000 dead just yesterday of the coronavirus in the US according to the dreaded mainstream media.  Largest number ever.  Maybe an anomaly or a sign of the future.

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2028 on: December 03, 2020, 08:58:01 AM »
We also have twats in charge making ridiculous claims

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55175162

We got the virus first because we are great nation

Then we have:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55177948

Dr Fauci: The UK 'was not as careful' as US in vaccine approval








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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2029 on: December 03, 2020, 09:48:08 AM »
We also have twats in charge making ridiculous claims

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55175162

We got the virus first because we are great nation


I think its absolutely brilliant that some people are literally crying with middle class, left wing outrage and calling politicians twats, because they cant separate a light hearted interview with some tongue in cheek humour on the topic of vaccinations. It's even funnier that some people think Williams is deadly serious. Long may it continue.....LOL

For anyone remotely interested, a short video of the LBC interview has been imbedded in the article from the independent. If you get upset with this then god help you......

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gavin-williamson-brexit-us-france-belgium-covid-vaccine-b1765562.html

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2030 on: December 03, 2020, 11:20:05 AM »
Not really

This compulsion for speed [though urgent] on the vaccine bothers me somewhat...Will it affect the effectiveness?

« Last Edit: December 03, 2020, 12:27:04 PM by AnonMod »
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2031 on: December 03, 2020, 12:15:24 PM »
Fauci mistaken on criticism of UK regulator on vaccine approval.

http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-fauci-mistaken-on-criticism-of-uk-regulator-on-vaccine-approval-12150232

The article then goes on to say that approval was faster in the UK because Brexit gave the regulator a brief moment of spare capacity.

Looks like two wins here. A vaccine to get us moving and brexit showing some promise!!  :)

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2032 on: December 03, 2020, 12:35:28 PM »
As I said, the original comment WAS a dig at the EU.

Plenty of other nations not in the EU have yet to dash headlong to approval status.
The UK vovt told is in Jan than we had world leading scientists and world leading tests....the risk from Covid was negligible..

History has proven that person wrong and he is the UK Health Minister....


SCARY

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2033 on: December 03, 2020, 12:44:04 PM »
As O said, the original comment WAS a dig at the EU.

Plenty of other nations not in the EU have yet to dash headlong to approval status.
The UK vovt told is in Jan than we had world leading scientists and world leading tests....the risk from Covid was negligible..

History has proven that person wrong and he is the UK Health Minister....


SCARY

My original comment wasnt anything to do with the EU, I hadnt even considered it.

You should read the sky news article in full. Like every article it can be a bit misleading but read it in full, consider it and you might just look at the world differently.

Not SCARY at all.

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2034 on: December 03, 2020, 05:39:52 PM »
BBC News - Dr Fauci apologises for saying UK 'rushed' vaccine
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55177948


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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2035 on: December 03, 2020, 06:23:53 PM »

This compulsion for speed [though urgent] on the vaccine bothers me somewhat...Will it affect the effectiveness?


The 95% efficacy of protecting individuals  is demonstrated by the Phase 3 trials.   It will not change. 

The overall effectiveness of protecting society (not individuals) is dependent on the percentage of of the total population choosing to be vaccinated.   

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2036 on: December 03, 2020, 06:28:32 PM »
Fauci mistaken on criticism of UK regulator on vaccine approval.

http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-fauci-mistaken-on-criticism-of-uk-regulator-on-vaccine-approval-12150232

The article then goes on to say that approval was faster in the UK because Brexit gave the regulator a brief moment of spare capacity.


The UK approval occurred ahead of the US approval because Pfizer had shared the trial data with the UK as it was being collected.   In contrast, the US FDA did  not review data until the Phase 3 trial was completed. 

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2037 on: December 04, 2020, 12:32:01 AM »
So, nothing to do with Brexit....

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2038 on: December 04, 2020, 02:54:02 AM »
So, nothing to do with Brexit....

I assume you failed to read the article yet wish to debate?

From the article;

"because we came out of the EU system around 18 months ago and stopped taking on work for Europe, we have people in the regulatory authority, who until January have some spare capacity," said Prof Evans.

I'll consider the words of a professor of pharmacoepidemiology at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and an expert on clinical trials before a disgruntled remainer.

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2039 on: December 05, 2020, 07:48:16 AM »
Bay Area orders month-long lockdown for 8.5M people
at 10pm on Sunday ahead of California's stay-at-home order

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9020093/California-orders-8-5-million-people-Bay-Area-stay-home-Monday.html


More Newsom Hypocritical Nincompoopery
If not for double standards, Democrats would have no standards.
There are few better examples of hypocrisy than Californias elitist
dictator, Gavin Newsom though Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris
are close on his heels.
http://patriotpost.us/alexander/75236-more-newsom-hypocritical-nincompoopery-2020-11-30


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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2040 on: December 05, 2020, 07:52:25 AM »
FDA Career Staff Are Delaying the Vaccine As Thousands of Americans Die
http://thedispatch.com/p/fda-career-staff-are-delaying-the


Johns Hopkins Researcher Calls out FDA, Says His Team
Could Approve COVID Vaccine in an Hour

http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/johns-hopkins-researcher-calls-out-fda-says-his-team-could-approve-covid-vaccine-in-an-hour/ar-BB1bElWB
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2041 on: December 05, 2020, 07:55:58 AM »

 
There are few better examples of hypocrisy than Californias elitist
dictator, Gavin Newsom  
The hypocrisy of Newsom is a problem now.  He should have adhered to the rules he set up, but since he didn't he has undermined himself.   

Insofar as the shutdown here in California, I'm not really for it.  The pandemic is running wild, but I'm not convinced for example dining out is a big transmitter of the illness.   

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2042 on: December 05, 2020, 08:57:06 AM »
They are lying to us.

"Klaus Schwab and his friends simulated a scripted pandemic event in Event 201 in October of 2019. (see Epilogue at 32:50 minute mark) with a planned second wave, worse than the first, that would affect all transactions, social, medical, political, banking and financial."

http://www.natureofhealing.org/disclosure-covid19-has-no-effect-on-deaths-in-u-s/?fbclid=IwAR3LCIVGzvRH5iqhqB2xpk5yyoV1jPkiG3Nsz_3b-BcTmeut7KybC27qK9Y

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2043 on: December 05, 2020, 01:07:23 PM »
They are lying to us.

"Klaus Schwab and his friends simulated a scripted pandemic event in Event 201 in October of 2019. (see Epilogue at 32:50 minute mark) with a planned second wave, worse than the first, that would affect all transactions, social, medical, political, banking and financial."

http://www.natureofhealing.org/disclosure-covid19-has-no-effect-on-deaths-in-u-s/?fbclid=IwAR3LCIVGzvRH5iqhqB2xpk5yyoV1jPkiG3Nsz_3b-BcTmeut7KybC27qK9Y
So now the pandemic is fake too!  It seems you are really losing it again.  How would all the 'inept liberal governments' keep such a big secret?  Thousands of people would be involved, no way that sort of secret wouldn't get out. 

I recall a month or two ago you stating the pandemic was real, it seems you have changed your mind.

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2044 on: December 05, 2020, 01:47:15 PM »
So now the pandemic is fake too!  It seems you are really losing it again.  How would all the 'inept liberal governments' keep such a big secret?  Thousands of people would be involved, no way that sort of secret wouldn't get out. 

I recall a month or two ago you stating the pandemic was real, it seems you have changed your mind.

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I never said the pandemic was real. I said the virus and the fearmongering is real
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2045 on: December 05, 2020, 01:51:17 PM »
  I never said the pandemic was real. I said the virus and the fearmongering is real
Ah ok so the virus is real but the pandemic isn't.  Makes a lot of sense!   :D

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2046 on: December 05, 2020, 02:18:45 PM »
Ah ok so the virus is real but the pandemic isn't.  Makes a lot of sense!   :D

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The seasonal flu is real, spreads as quickly and kills more folks than covid. It's not a pandemic. They are lying to you

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2048 on: December 05, 2020, 02:49:14 PM »
The seasonal flu is real, spreads as quickly and kills more folks than covid. It's not a pandemic. They are lying to you
I'm convincible, but not convinced at this time.  Too many deaths around the world....look at poor italy suffering 700 plus deaths a day from it....2-3 thousand a day here...  Seems abnormal to me.   Too many world leaders with competing agendas to agree to keep a secret like this.   I think it is real, just like the one 100 years ago, Pandemics do happen from time to time. 

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #2049 on: December 06, 2020, 12:51:20 AM »
The truth is some nations are playing DOWN the seriousness of the pandemic ...Russia being and example (

In the UK over 50's are getting free 'flu jabs as the Health Service would collapse with the combination of COVID-19..


 

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