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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #75 on: August 09, 2020, 09:50:48 AM »
Note: Trench meant this in a different context, but I am using
it to point out a fatal flaw in many of his theories.

I think there are ways to beat the system

Trench, you are trying to skip steps, important steps that can
not and should not be skipped. You must actively pursue and
engage a woman to win her heart and that absolutely must
be done.

You want to skip communicating with FSUW. You want to skip
having Skype/messenger calls with them exploring every facet
of their personality, goals, belief systems and what drives them.
You need insight into them.

You need to win their heart. You need to win their heart.
You need to win their heart. You need to win their heart.
 
Nobody can skip that, especially you can't skip that.

You buy a book on exploring Europe for $5 per day and set up
a budget of $2.5 per day. Stop it!

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #76 on: August 09, 2020, 10:34:40 AM »

You need to win their heart. You need to win their heart.
You need to win their heart. You need to win their heart.
 
Nobody can skip that, especially you can't skip that.

You buy a book on exploring Europe for $5 per day and set up
a budget of $2.5 per day. Stop it!


 :ROFL:

Classic!

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #77 on: August 09, 2020, 02:46:32 PM »
I can spot cRaZy from a mile away and I've chatted with many FSUW who were bAtsH!t cRaZy so I immediately lose their contact information and move on.


What, according to you, is crazy?


BTW, Trench, you should not discount the fact that for every crazy or unbalanced FSUW seeking a mate, there is a crazy or unbalanced WM, some of whom have posted on this forum.  It really is a two way street.


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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #78 on: August 09, 2020, 03:01:23 PM »
What, according to you, is crazy?

My first wife is paranoid schizophrenic. She is crazy.
There are a number of other mental disorders/psychoses
too many to talk about here.   



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FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
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Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #79 on: August 09, 2020, 05:00:06 PM »
So, this ability to 'spot' such ladies is acquired through experience..?... :popcorn:



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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #80 on: August 09, 2020, 05:36:03 PM »
Many men have difficulties dumping hot women, but you have
to do it when you find a woman who has character or psychological 
flaws
. You can't fix those things and unless you are a trained
clinical psychologist then why would you even try?
[Note that question is rhetorical]
Number one criteria and non-negotiable! Don't get involved with a nut job or with latent issues. It takes a level of experience and conscious effort to identify in some cases. On other occasions it is pretty obvious.

Don't try to be a white knight. A distant family member was young, successful and studying become a doctor. He saw a person drowning in a river. In his attempt to save them he was dragged to his death. That's what you're doing to yourself if you enter a relationship with someone with known issues.

(Yes, men can have similar flaws.)





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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #81 on: August 09, 2020, 07:25:51 PM »
in America,
you most commonly have to deal with the following disorders fairly routinely
among childless, under 40 yr old women

bi-polar disorder
obsessive compulsive disorder
borderline personality disorder

you can sleep with one for a couple of months, before they have their first melt-down
then you should stop calling after that, and go for a rebound date with someone new
until that one has THEIR melt-down...

or...
I say, or

you leave the domestic market
and go EXPORT yourself  to a foreign market
and the more foreign the BETTER
a market that values what youre selling because of its scarcity and uniqueness
compared to your native home market where what youre selling is more common and hence less valuable

OK?

I learned at an early age that it was pretty common for foreign women to have a sexual interest in me...

I really suspect it had a lot to do with my appearance
I looked like a blond hair blue eyed Hitler Jugend
and YET...
I was a mischling, a half Jew....
being a half-breed made me kinda exotic to everyone
both Jew and Gentile
so this became my ticket down lifes highway

its also a HUGE PLUS if you are a guy who can speak well, but has an accent
the women will overwhelmingly consider it to be a VERY sexy voice
for me, it was a mild Virginian southern accent
spoken in the UK

or speaking Russian in Russia...
or English in China or Japan
women were just mesmerized by my voice

so, they WANT to go to the cafe and have cake and coffee with me!
the rest after that, is just commentary

« Last Edit: August 09, 2020, 07:44:53 PM by krimster2 »

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #82 on: August 10, 2020, 02:42:05 AM »
Trench, I know you have it all worked out, but do you?

Heres a new plan 😉



All jokes aside id adopt Georges philosophy. Start with Bills great advice re.... making full use of the tools you have available.... Skype etc...

For a change, why dont you do the opposite and have......

 Skype/messenger calls with them exploring every facet
of their personality, goals, belief systems and what drives them.
You need insight into them.

actively pursue and
engage a woman to win her heart and that absolutely must
be done.

You need to win their heart. You need to win their heart.
You need to win their heart.

Honestly if you cant master the online aspect of FSU dating, youre going to continue to struggle.



« Last Edit: August 10, 2020, 03:48:21 AM by Davo »

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #83 on: August 10, 2020, 03:44:56 AM »
Trench, I know you know have it all worked out, but do you?

Heres a new plan 😉


Wow...Perfect!

Guess that finally settles this forum thread and a bunch of others :)

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #84 on: August 10, 2020, 07:50:04 AM »

there are crazy or unbalanced WM

Absolutely there are and there are women who want to take
them home and fix them and they are just as doomed to failure
as men who want to get romantically involved with broken women.

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #85 on: August 10, 2020, 10:36:51 AM »
nawwwww Trench, dont do it that way man
plus gyms are dangerous now...

if Im in Moscow this winter, ya wanna know what Im gonna do to stay in shape?
cross-country skiing up and down my driveway and street
use the ski poles a lot more than normal to propel myself instead of gravity
I also found out that I can ice-ski on frozen ponds like this when its REALLY cold
and the ice is thick and wont crack when I step on it
Ive even gone completely across a large pond with just a couple of hard jabs to the ice
right after I freshly waxed my skis
it feels like youre gliding or ice skating
also, plenty of places to ice skate in Moscva
a lot of the skaters are young women
if you're a trick skater, you will get "looks"
it's a GREAT workout

best way to stay in shape
get some kinda physical hobby or JOB!!!
and the harder you work
the more you get into shape

for example, learn how to shingle roofs
and have a part-time bizness as a roofing installer/repairer
you only need a couple hundred quid worth of tools and a ladder
and each job could net you a couple thousand quid profit
get up on the roof with your shirt off, while balancing two 80 pound bags of shingles
and then wield a a heavy hammer all day, switching arms
and by summer's end women will gawk at you when you remove your shirt
I feel "so dirty" when they do that...

and do roofing as a side gig
and have other side gigs
I totally liked the furniture making idea....
if you ever did a web site about your recreations of Queen Anne period English furniture
I can guarantee you a couple of hundred hot looking women would be talking with you on Instagram...

if you lived your life this way, instead of in a hole
youd make more money
youd make more friends
youd make more girl friends
youd be a whole heck of a lot happier than you are now
because you're basically not putting ANY effort into your life
in Germany, they used to tell me, "if you want results, you have to work for it"
work for it Trench
and not just complain about it

Trench, do you want ALL the pussy in your area, or just some?
either way listen up

#1 - buy a work truck, 3 ladders, small, medium, large, leather tool belt, couple of roofing hammers, box cutter, water cooler

#2 - if you dont know how to do roofing, hire yourself out for minimum wage to a local roofer to be his helper, hell work your ass off and teach you EVERYTHING you need to know in 6 months

then advertise to do roofing installation and repair in your area
if you do just ONE major job per week, you can easily make a couple of thousand pounds profit

then learn how to spray paint and pressure wash, buy the equipment, and add this to your list of services, my guess is within 2 years, you should be clearing 50,000 pounds per year, PLUS meeting a lot of people, some of whom are female and who also have female friends

you might even be able to use your truck for delivery and haul-away, all kinds of stuff Trench

WOW! Trench!!!

then Trench, let me ask ya a question buddy?
do you wanna work for money?
or would you prefer to have YOUR money work for YOU?
hmmmm.....
cuz, if you think its time for your savings to grow up and go to work
if you have a 50K cash flow, buy an 800,000 pound country house with acreage
10% down, 15 year loan
and make a model homestead farm

and after you do that
recruit a housekeeper (with benefits)





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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #86 on: November 19, 2020, 03:35:31 AM »
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That is a shameful reply. You bring dishonor upon your father and mother.
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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #87 on: November 19, 2020, 04:28:29 AM »
Thanks Max...

I was trying to find something I could say without totally violating the new board policies.

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #88 on: November 19, 2020, 04:35:31 AM »


That is a shameful reply. You bring dishonor upon your father and mother.

Thanks Max...

I was trying to find something I could say without totally violating the new board policies.



Trench is simply proving his social interaction and dating skills
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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #89 on: November 19, 2020, 04:55:33 AM »


Trench is simply proving his social interaction and dating skills


Tho I disagree with much of your political stances I am with you in this assessment. 

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #90 on: November 19, 2020, 04:56:33 AM »
Thanks Max...

I was trying to find something I could say without totally violating the new board policies.


And what are the new board policies?

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #91 on: November 19, 2020, 06:11:53 AM »
No insults, sniping, and mudslinging etc.

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #92 on: November 19, 2020, 08:46:11 AM »
Deleted.

You are posting about a real person that Maxx knows not some
hypothetical woman who might be interested in you.

Use your brain before you post
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FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #93 on: November 19, 2020, 08:49:59 AM »
No insults, sniping, and mudslinging etc.

Then you would need to delete Trenchmouths post and then clean up
the thread that Trenchmouth totally hijacked AGAIN.

Maxx was talking about a real woman that he knows.
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FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #94 on: November 19, 2020, 08:59:04 AM »
Hi Bill,

I reported to the mod to get it handled.  I did want Trench to see the reaction of other members to his obviously distasteful post, even if not directed at another member.

Is likely to disappear in short order.

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #95 on: November 19, 2020, 09:08:56 AM »
Here is Trenchcoats on topic part of the conversation.

Exactly! Tourism shouldn't be seen as a poor second. It helps a guy learn about the culture and he can see how Ukrainians are, that can be invaluable and all help. Flying in and being oblivious of the culture and society isn't a great place to be. That said I can understand for Americans and those from further afield that it's an expensive way to spend time for what was supposed to be a trip to meet a significant other.

When I was in Lviv I mixed tourism with drumming up another woman to meet, it's not a bad way to do it. Most sites only have so many other women to message so you can message them at night or briefly in the morning before going out or around lunchtime when back for a rest. Anything urgent can be done from mobile phone on the move but generally it means you can spend the rest of the day doing tourism while you wait for one to come up.


Here is where Trench defends hiding his lack of confidence and lack of basic
social skills from women. Trench has polluted dozens of threads already with
this and he needs to stop. This thread is not about Trench being afraid to chat
with members of the opposite sex on Skype.

 :offtopic:   :offtopic:   :offtopic: 


Generally I would say unless you're an above average guy in looks, etc it's probably going to take a few days to get another girl up unless you get lucky. Even trying to get back ups ready to call up before you go isn't that easy unless again if you're above average vin looks or get lucky. A lot of sites has a lot of guys competing to message with girls and that's before it comes down to whether she likes your look or not. Some guys might have girls to call up off VK or Facebook but most won't as it's not a straight forward process as online dating sites tend to be.

I agree with not getting overinvested in a girl beforehand the odds for most guys aren't in their favour. I agree that Skype & messaging a lot can build into that and to be honest you might as well go out there and blind date as a lot of that stuff doesn't help that much anyway. It's really all a case of getting the girls up though of course some connection is handy so the girl feels invested enough to show up.

I think Mobe's method is somewhat different. I think there are two aspects to the due diligence he states. One, finding out that the girl is not after a WM for dubious reasons, as an immigration mule, after his wealth, shopping spree, wanting a sponsor, etc. Second, that her character is generally good. Third, that her personality and interests are on a similar or complimentary wavelength.

For each girl messaging online then skyping that is quite a lot of due diligence work. It may well pay off but I don't think their me are guarantee's and odds are even on meeting it may take more than meeting the first girl before one comes up with the necessary chemistry. Surface to say it's quite a labour intensive process suitable for those that have long periods to time to while away at home. Many of us unfortunately don't have that sort of time to hand or lack the enthusiasm for it.

I reckon there is a way to come good in dating abroad if the guy wants to improve his odds and that is to go for girls that are underpar on the looks front. They will be girls who will value the guy meeting them, probably less likely to try it on, etc, etc. So a potential quick win there. Many guys skip over these girls for the more attractive ones, I know I do or at least average looks girls. However, if the guy wants the job done quick and a girl that is less likely to mess him around and isn't too bothered about looks then the unattractive girl can be close to a sure thing. Myself I can't bring myself to date  an ugly girl as I just can't feel right about it but on the upside their not likely to run off with other men though maybe that's not such a good thing, lol.
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #96 on: November 19, 2020, 09:09:44 AM »
Hi Bill,

I reported to the mod to get it handled.  I did want Trench to see the reaction of other members to his obviously distasteful post, even if not directed at another member.

Is likely to disappear in short order.

Thank you,

Bill
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #97 on: November 19, 2020, 10:10:47 AM »
This is ridiculous

Beel suggests to the forum that my wife did not post something she DID and now he is hoping Trench's post gets nuked?

This is exactly what I meant about a level playing field.

I simply wanted Beel to see he was wrong and we weren't given the chance.

His slur remains in a locked thread.

Ah well.



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Re: Trenchcoat's Further Theories on, and Experiences of, Dating in the FSU
« Reply #98 on: November 19, 2020, 11:50:10 AM »
This is ridiculous

Beel suggests to the forum that my wife did not post something she DID and now he is hoping Trench's post gets nuked?

This is exactly what I meant about a level playing field.

I simply wanted Beel to see he was wrong and we weren't given the chance.

His slur remains in a locked thread.

Ah well.

I did not make a single disparaging comment about your wife
nor any other person that you know. I posted my belief that YOU
did something.

You said you didn't do that thing. I said you did, you said you didn't,
I said I believe you did, you said you didn't. There is no productive
reason for the mods to put up with you and I repeating it another
40 to 400 times. 

What Trench did was to disparage a person that a member knew
(and Trench didn't) who couldn't defend herself.

That has never been considered acceptable behavior on this forum
or any other.

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« Reply #99 on: November 19, 2020, 12:18:32 PM »
there is a crazy or unbalanced WM, some of whom have posted on this forum. 
It really is a two way street.

Absolutely there are and there are women who want to take
them home and fix them and they are just as doomed to failure
as men who want to get romantically involved with broken women.

I am going to take this one step further in regard to dating Women.

Some women always end up with "Bad Boys"
Some women always end up with men with addictive problems
Some women always end up with men who treat them horribly.
Some women friend zone men and then use them. 

STAY AWAY from those women. Something is wrong and you don't have
the knowledge, training or ability to help them. They won't be interested
in you romantically for any long period of time and they will revert to seeking
out what harms or is harmful to them.

Find a woman who wants you. Find a woman who is romantically interested
in YOU.

Hollywood makes movies about how these girls realize that they always wanted
a good guy and they decide to become romantically involved with the guy that
they've friend zoned.

THAT CRAP NEVER HAPPENS. It's a Holly-weird formula romantic film marketing
for women. It's as real as Superman flying and having X-ray vision. It's as realistic
as Wonder Woman blocking machine gun bullets with her wristbands.

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