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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2020, 04:25:47 PM »
I was just shooting down your arguments for why not. I was also pointing
out that you fear some girl will marry you and then leave with your house,
money, future income and go live with somebody richer and more handsome
than yourself.


They don't have the divorce culture in the Philippines like they do in the
East.

I am not trying to convince you to go to the Philippines, you like what you
like and want what you want. I am all for going after what you want.

You need to be 100% concerned with finding a good girl. If you aren't finding
them then you are searching too young and will continue to have the same
problems until you change direction.

That's ok Bill I wondered if you were testing me a bit ;)

For sure I do have those hangs ups as I realise a guy can be punished badly in Western society for a screw up. I don't want to be one off those guys where he ends up in a room by himself while the woman walks off with house, kids, etc. Mobe's already  demonstrated how that one can go down.

I see the advantage of a Filipino girl in what you say but I don't see that at this moment in time at least it's the way for me to go. I'm kind of into Ukrainian girls in a way, Belorusian - Russian girls can be good but I kind of just feel it the most for Ukrainian girls, there's just something about them.

Watching some of the AFA socials on You Tube it makes laugh how old some of the girls are talking to girls in their twenties, lol. I realise it's much less likely to be the real deal the younger the girl is. I'll just have to feel my way forward when I line up some hopefully this August.
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2020, 04:31:18 PM »
Please take note that Russian and Ukrainian, how similar they may be to the outsider, are now two distinctive cultures and languages.w
It is very easy to solve. MrsShadow talks to the chidrenon Russian, her native language. I talk to them in Dutch, my native language. Between each other we talk Engish.I am from the West and while I do not have the accent of my city of Birth, the accent is distinct from where we live now. The children are developing  slight accent but people will find it hard to place it as it has influences from all.

That's a pretty good way around it Shadow :) I can see that it means both have regular exposure to both languages, three even. I think it's a great asset for children to be able to mix and move in both cultures so they can pick the best of both and have different opportunities that both cultures offer when they grow up.
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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2020, 12:41:37 PM »
That's ok Bill I wondered if you were testing me a bit ;)

I'll just have to feel my way forward when I line up some hopefully this August.

Trench,

I wasn't testing you. You've brought this up yourself many times
in different ways including recently.

The age thing is real advice. The less you push the envelope the
more good girls you will find.

I've done this. I was 45 and pursued a very hot 24 year old in
Lugansk and I met her for her 25th birthday. I was very handsome
back then and we had a ten day sexual adventure and I thought
we would get married. It fell apart after I got back home.

I dated a 23 year old when I was 44. I have done all of this. I
am very experienced and very confident pursuing women. I could
make them laugh and their knickers would fly. I am telling you this
because it didn't work for me and I really tried and I spent more
money on it per year than you make in a year. ALWAYS in the end
it didn't work out.

You can ignore me and think that you know better but you don't.

Me when I started at 44 (I think)

Tell me you are significantly more handsome, more confident,
more experienced and could make girls laugh for hours.



The other photo is me at age 45
« Last Edit: June 02, 2020, 12:51:38 PM by 2tallbill »
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2020, 03:26:09 PM »
Beel,

I was also 44 when I started dating FSU ladies ..

many of us got offers from hot early twenties lasses and simply never went there in the first place .. It's easy when you have daughters ( one of whom already hated you ) and would have (rightly ) thought, "ugh...."   

I dated a 37 year old with an 18 year old daughter when I was 55 .. she spoke 5 languages fluently, had  an EU passport  and liked older guys ..  but I just couldn't see it being a long-term thing ...  something I sought ..


Good to see you got it out of your system ;)

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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2020, 08:08:08 PM »
Beel,

I was also 44 when I started dating FSU ladies ..

many of us got offers from hot early twenties lasses and simply never went there in the first place .. It's easy when you have daughters ( one of whom already hated you ) and would have (rightly ) thought, "ugh...."   

I dated a 37 year old with an 18 year old daughter when I was 55 .. she spoke 5 languages fluently, had  an EU passport  and liked older guys ..  but I just couldn't see it being a long-term thing ...  something I sought ..


Good to see you got it out of your system ;)

Yes, I had to learn many lessons the hard way. That's why I am advocating
as I am so that newbies reading along can learn from my mistakes.

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.

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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2020, 08:23:55 PM »
Yes, I had to learn many lessons the hard way. That's why I am advocating
as I am so that newbies reading along can learn from my mistakes.

But on the other hand, many newbies (and oldies) would like to experience your 'mistakes.'
Winston Churchill.  “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

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« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2020, 08:39:41 PM »
there are no mistakes
there's only learning how to succeed through trial and error

what's necessary for success?
understanding
a plan of action
persistence and patience

sometimes, the best way to secure a goal is NOT to head straight at it
because if there is too much resistance in this direction
than it is better to proceed in some other indirect path where there is less resistance

the first thing you should seek is understanding
without that, than the things that come after will be of less value than with understanding
understanding, is what you learn from acute observation
so always observe, and think about what you see
and then you will begin to understand what you see

Trench,
your personal struggles
are going to be overshadowed by the larger struggle the world is currently facing
instead of it being an obstacle
how can you transform it into becoming an advantage?
think about it as if your life depends on the answer to this question
because in reality, it actually does...

so sayeth the blind man
as he reached for his hammer and saw




« Last Edit: June 02, 2020, 09:16:43 PM by krimster2 »

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« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2020, 08:58:54 PM »
I have only dated one 20 something . . . but she was 19 years old for most of our dating time.

And I married her when she was 20 years and 2 months old.
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« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2020, 09:14:29 PM »
we search for perfection, but nothing is perfect
so we either end up with nothing
or something that is imperfect
the only way to be satisfied
is to no longer have the desire to search
for the things you want
and be content with what you already have

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« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2020, 02:32:47 AM »
Trench,

I wasn't testing you. You've brought this up yourself many times
in different ways including recently.

The age thing is real advice. The less you push the envelope the
more good girls you will find.

I've done this. I was 45 and pursued a very hot 24 year old in
Lugansk and I met her for her 25th birthday. I was very handsome
back then and we had a ten day sexual adventure and I thought
we would get married. It fell apart after I got back home.

I dated a 23 year old when I was 44. I have done all of this. I
am very experienced and very confident pursuing women. I could
make them laugh and their knickers would fly. I am telling you this
because it didn't work for me and I really tried and I spent more
money on it per year than you make in a year. ALWAYS in the end
it didn't work out.

You can ignore me and think that you know better but you don't.

Me when I started at 44 (I think)

Tell me you are significantly more handsome, more confident,
more experienced and could make girls laugh for hours.




The other photo is me at age 45

No to all of the above for me. It's true Bill you would trump me in every category. I'm an average everyday looking guy and judging by your photos you are a bit above me there, perhaps somewhere between me and Brad Pitt right up the top. The other categories you would surpass me on also. I could indeed see how if could did not make it last with a young girl, I would stand far less chance. However I think if you secured yourself an independent income and lived over there I'm guessing the relationships might have lasted. Sometimes it can be down to the specific people. I remember on the on the documentary, 'Love Me' there were a couple of guys who ended up in LTR with younger women, one I think was after a comfortable lifestyle the other was a little below par on looks in my opinion, she ended up having a kid with the guy, there was a sixteen year age gap, he was probably a little under par on looks also and not exactly charismatic.

I think though if we are talking attractive looking women for the most part then yes it's going to be a reach to get with one. I reckon you could probably settle down with one in the FSU Bill if you weren't already sorted there. For an everyday guy like me I think I would struggle on that front with attractive women, they would likely kick back and demand we don't live in the FSU or else, lol.

There is however one forum member here who may trump you Bill. BillyB got himself a very young lady and seems to be getting on with her fine, with kids etc. So he managed to make it work and apparently she is quite attractive. So how did BillyB manage it?
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« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2020, 02:43:40 AM »
2Tall,

Shazam... you look like Bill Clinton


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« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2020, 02:54:56 AM »
2Tall,

Shazam... you look like Bill Clinton

You're right he does a bit BC and we all know how well Slick Willy did, lol :D
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« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2020, 03:05:55 AM »

There is however one forum member here who may trump you Bill. BillyB got himself a very young lady and seems to be getting on with her fine, with kids etc. So he managed to make it work and apparently she is quite attractive. So how did BillyB manage it?
Get her young and nfluence through MIL.
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« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2020, 05:09:56 AM »
Get her young and influence through MIL.

Oh, I see, that's a pretty shrewd move on the part of Billy and worth remembering. Yeah of course if the MIL/parents have any interest in their child getting on, living in comfort and being in wealth then they can be a great persuasion on a girl, particularly if young. I recall on one of the You Tube videos I watched a while back that on one of these tours, not AFA, another lot that I don't think do them anymore, well one young girl was there with her mother. Her mother seemed basically of that mind that she wanted to find a suitable hook up for her daughter. She would have probably been better going to an AFA one as the crowd there was on the more lower, rowdy end of the WM spectrum.
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« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2020, 09:15:25 AM »
there are no mistakes
there's only learning how to succeed through trial and error

what's necessary for success?
understanding
a plan of action
persistence and patience

sometimes, the best way to secure a goal is NOT to head straight at it
because if there is too much resistance in this direction
than it is better to proceed in some other indirect path where there is less resistance

the first thing you should seek is understanding
without that, than the things that come after will be of less value than with understanding
understanding, is what you learn from acute observation
so always observe, and think about what you see
and then you will begin to understand what you see

Trench,
your personal struggles
are going to be overshadowed by the larger struggle the world is currently facing
instead of it being an obstacle
how can you transform it into becoming an advantage?
think about it as if your life depends on the answer to this question
because in reality, it actually does...

so sayeth the blind man
as he reached for his hammer and saw

This is well said advice Krim. Yep I try to observe and understand. The more older I get the more I realise what you say with observe and understand being true. Some people can observe well and I feel I have been improving on that over time especially with regard to FSU dating. Over time logically being able to slot together the pieces of the puzzle makes up the whole picture and things become clearer.

Well, I think it may still be early days as far as a lot of the FSU is concerned wit the pandemic. They were a few weeks behind us and reacted a bit differently with early lockdowns, Poland, Ukraine, etc.

In Ukraine the pandemic is still trudging along. I'm not sure if they have just delayed a big wave in cases coming as a result of their actions. We may have been through the worst of it now, a news report from Italy I was reading the other day was from a Doctor/Scientist who has been studying the virus and reckons weaker strains are now developing. I don't know if we will get a second wave, quiet possibly, but we'll have to see.

Ukraine still looks like it is going to have its economy hit hard:

http://www.intellinews.com/kyiv-blog-ukraine-battered-by-the-winds-of-crisis-but-still-standing-on-its-feet-184073/

I think women will certainly want to be parting their legs to get out of there. I think a lot of Ukrainians won't be finding much work in the EU, especially Poland as the crises reduces jobs and Poles staying back in Poland after the virus from the UK with the end of the transition period at the end of this year. I think that in all likelihood this may all add to the seriousness of Ukrainian women to go with a WM rather than just try and take him for a few bob's worth of stuff.
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« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2020, 10:56:07 AM »
I think women will certainly want to be parting their legs to get out of there. .  . I think that in all likelihood this may all add to the seriousness of Ukrainian women to go with a WM rather than just try and take him for a few bob's worth of stuff.


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« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2020, 11:56:26 AM »

I think women will certainly want to be parting their legs to get out of there. I think a lot of Ukrainians won't be finding much work in the EU, especially Poland as the crises reduces jobs and Poles staying back in Poland after the virus from the UK with the end of the transition period at the end of this year. I think that in all likelihood this may all add to the seriousness of Ukrainian women to go with a WM rather than just try and take him for a few bob's worth of stuff.
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« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2020, 01:26:36 AM »
Gold diggers are everywhere. If you want one, just flash the cash. But it might take ore cash than you think to keep them.

Yeah, think you're right Shadow. I know I certainly wouldn't be able to keep up money wise if I even wanted to date such a girl which of course I don't. I don't think I would properly be able to feel it for a girl if I thought she was with me for the money. That said I realise that I need to have stuff going for me for women to be interested and be able to provide a better level of comfort than women are used to in Ukraine.
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« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2020, 01:44:16 AM »
That said I realise that I need to have stuff going for me for women to be interested and be able to provide a better level of comfort than women are used to in Ukraine.

What they were 'used to' in Ukraine is totally irrelevant once they board their flight.  We all adapt to our new home environment.

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« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2020, 02:36:26 AM »
What they were 'used to' in Ukraine is totally irrelevant once they board their flight.  We all adapt to our new home environment.

Indeed BC, that's why it's imperative to get her pregnant early on  before decadent western feminist society works it's evil.

Likewise I believe as any children grow up it would be important to take them on a few trips in the FSU to give them experience of how men and women should be so that feminist society is not all they come to know. Females in particular need to be put in the frame I believe. As a girl approaches her teenage years seeing how women dress more feminine in the FSU would serve her well I think. Nice dresses, skirts and tops that show off her boobs is how teenage girls need to be socialised.
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« Reply #45 on: June 04, 2020, 02:52:05 AM »
Indeed BC, that's why it's imperative to get her pregnant early on  before decadent western feminist society works it's evil.

Trench is trolling, again ...

Likewise I believe as any children grow up it would be important to take them on a few trips in the FSU to give them experience of how men and women should be so that feminist society is not all they come to know. Females in particular need to be put in the frame I believe. As a girl approaches her teenage years seeing how women dress more feminine in the FSU would serve her well I think. Nice dresses, skirts and tops that show off her boobs is how teenage girls need to be socialised.

I can see what a wonderful Father and icon Trench would be ...
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« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2020, 02:55:41 AM »
Trench is trolling, again ...

No, that's called being an @sshole.

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« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2020, 03:38:29 AM »
Trench is trolling, again ...

I can see what a wonderful Father and icon Trench would be ...

I never troll Mobe, in the west such thoughts are now thought of as strange. In the FSU it would probably be the first thing on the woman's mind never mind the man.


I think so too Mobe :) I can think off no better way to set a young girl straight in a feminist society than taking her to the beach in the FSU and her seeing she needs to start pulling a bikini thong up her crack.
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« Reply #48 on: June 04, 2020, 03:54:20 AM »
Poor 'ol Trench..   

Stop trying to live other's ( real) lives ..
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« Reply #49 on: June 04, 2020, 04:10:10 AM »
Poor 'ol Trench..   

Stop trying to live other's ( real) lives ..

You mean that is what you did! Good on you Mobers, you're ahead of me in the curve there :D

Good to see you back anyway, knew you could only resist seeing my posts for so long ;D
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