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Re: First date advice
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2020, 11:31:24 PM »
"No, I'm Christian, I don't believe in casual sex. I would've stayed in America if I was looking for that."

I KNEW there was "a catch" there ALWAYS is....

some advice from an old dewd who knows WTF he's talking about
get all the sex you can BEFORE you get married, cuz you AIN'T gonna have as much as you think you are after you're married...
don't say no one warned you

zoomer,
let me see if I understand your “situation”
you’re a member of a "religious cult” and you adhere strictly by its code of ethics in regards to sex, which labels any form of sex outside of cult sanctioned marriage as a “sin”

BTW, the name of the cult wouldn’t be “Ladder Day Saints” or anything close to that, now would it, do you wear magic underwear as a sign of your holy covenant?

good thing you decided to let someone else hand ya an ethics code and decide your sex life for you as opposed to deciding that ALL on your own....
wow! big sigh of relief, huh?

bravo!
what a brave and noble choice
to let an organization make your personal life’s choices for you!!!

too bad you’ll never get to see all the pooty-tang I’ve seen
no, really....
cuz I took the see as much pooty-tang as you can route instead of the living by some particular cult's rules route like you boy...

Wow you're really cool bro. What really keeps me up at night is that I haven't banged as many club sluts as you. No I'm not a Mormon. I don't think there's any faction of Christianity, religion in general, or really any moral code that promotes hedonism except for the one you adopted from the media/academia as they were pushing the sexual revolution. I think I'll take the cult that builds societies over the one that destroys them :)


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Re: First date advice
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2020, 11:33:02 PM »
Good Luck! :)

Thanks! I will watch out for what you mentioned.

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Re: First date advice
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2020, 01:16:10 AM »
Trench is our resident 'expert' in how  OT to date, btw.....

You ARE going about this completely wrong... From a planned campaign point of view...meeting someone you haven't video chatted with.... but, as you are on the ground...)



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Re: First date advice
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2020, 09:18:06 AM »
“Wow you're really cool bro. What really keeps me up at night is that I haven't banged as many club sluts as you.

wow, sorry, it saddens me to hear you say this my young inexperienced brother...
because now I see that you are a “virgin” in more ways than one...
but tell me true...for I shall NOT lie to you...
is your celibacy truly voluntarily according to your own “moral principles”
OR
are you celibate for some other DEEPER reason?

btw, why the negativity towards sex?
why denigrate the very women who WANT to have sex with you, huh?
and trust me, if you are even SLIGHTLY decent lookin they will....
cuz even somebody like you still looks better than most local gopnick Ukrainians, all things being equal (and they aren't) you have "the foreigner mystique" and they don't

I’m guessing a young guy like you hasn’t had very many experiences in life
where they saw something SO BEAUTIFUL that it took their breath away
like a snow covered mountain, with clear fresh mountain streams
kinda vision....

well lemme tell ya something from boomer to zoomer, ok....
the first time a Ukrainian girl takes her clothes off and presents herself to you naked
will feel even better than looking at the snow covered mountains
with the clear mountain streams
you will get "the biggest rush" you've EVER had in your life
they look THAT GOOD at age 19....

OK, and get this son...
if once is nice
twice is twice as nice
ya feel me?

alright, go and have some cookies now and wise up a little why dontcha
jeez, who filled your head with all that nonsense about celibacy

look zoomer.....
think what it would be like if you suddenly died this very instant
and you NEVER saw or touched a naked Ukrainian girl
wouldn't you feel a "personal loss" at not having this experience?

well, what about having it twice, or 10 times?
quantity has it's own quality

why do you want to marry so young?
you could easily spend the next 10 years having girlfriends and NOT have the hassles of marriage until you're older


also, please explain to me, how the mere fact that I am able to have sex with a lot of Russian women makes me in any way less moral than someone who is a virgin?
you love others the way you want to
and I shall love them, the way I want to
OK?
I can't help it if all the people I love are beautiful women
« Last Edit: August 01, 2020, 09:54:31 AM by krimster2 »

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Re: First date advice
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2020, 10:49:59 AM »
btw, why the negativity towards sex?
why denigrate the very women who WANT to have sex with you, huh?
I wasn't negative towards sex, I was negative towards casual sex. And I don't see why someone wanting to have sex with me suddenly means I have to like them.

OK, and get this son...
if once is nice
twice is twice as nice
ya feel me?
Nah I'd rather have sex with one woman who I actually like over a bunch of women who I tolerate just long enough for them to be willing to drop their pants

look zoomer.....
think what it would be like if you suddenly died this very instant
and you NEVER saw or touched a naked Ukrainian girl
wouldn't you feel a "personal loss" at not having this experience?
This sounds like an excuse to never think of the long term. Why save money if you could just die right now never having been able to ride a jetski or whatever?

why do you want to marry so young?
you could easily spend the next 10 years having girlfriends and NOT have the hassles of marriage until you're older
If you think that's great then that's your prerogative. I think it would be very depressing to have a continuous series of girlfriends who I don't even care enough about to keep around, and to continuously destroy anything that was built with them to get a new sexual experience.

« Last Edit: August 01, 2020, 11:10:13 AM by based_zoomer1997 »

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Re: First date advice
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2020, 03:32:24 PM »
why is “casual sex” inferior to any other form of sex
or why is another form superior to it?

to me, casual sex is:
relaxed
friendly
natural

but by casual....
I’m guessing what you really mean “unceremonious” and informal
and because you have your head in this religious "thang" of yours
you’re mixing up your religious trip into your sex life and you’re getting yourself confused...

there is an EXTREMELY important reason for you to have girlfriends
BEFORE
you have a wife zoomer!!!!

and that’s so you have SOME EXPERIENCE
BEFORE you make the legal plunge into marriage

it is a HUGE mistake jumping into any MAJOR endeavor in your life
without knowing WTF you are doing....

ignorance, i.e. lack of knowledge, ain’t a desired state, it really ain’t gonna be bliss for you

another reason to have had multiple girl friends before your wife
are the love making skills you will build up

this is why with the 19 yr olds, like the one you’re intending to date in Ukraine
I "gave them head"....
because the Ukrainian guys don’t it at all, but DO expect a BJ from them!
this will be the first time these girls had oral sex
AND it will be with a foreigner
they WILL come hard, right in your face, and to their BIG SURPRIZE"
and after you do it, you cradle them in your arms
they have the most beautiful bodies you could ever imagine, I mean OMG!
I found it hard to take my eyes off them, they were so lovely

but, if you want to turn down opportunities of having experiences like that
because you wanna follow some cult's ethics code, hoping you'll advance up a rank in the pecking order
fine...


« Last Edit: August 01, 2020, 06:18:24 PM by krimster2 »

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Re: First date advice
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2020, 05:23:31 PM »
Are you kidding me?

You had the balls to travel thousands of mile across an ocean.
You slew all manner of dragons, black knights and forded
alligator infested moats without the benefit of drawbridges.

DO IT, you flew all the way to see her. She is going to be excited
to see you. Give her the spin!

Two thumbs up!

BTW welcome to the forum Zoomer.

Ignore "krimster" by his own admission he is a "high functioning drug addict" and has very low morals to say the least.

Great luck to you!
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Re: First date advice
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2020, 06:06:45 PM »
"ignore "krimster" by his own admission he is a "high functioning drug addict..."



high functioning of "any kind" is freakin light years away from where YOU WILL EVER BE...
you are NOT FUNCTIONING AT ALL....
I mean excluding watching porn and playing video games....

a couple of months from now, I will be living in my new and STILL unfinished "dacha" in Moscva with my 23 yr old lawyer...
I have set a boundary in my relationship with her that she accepts
which is, she has to behave with me EXACTLY how she sees my daughters behave with me...
and that's how she treats me, hugs and kisses only and she cooks for me as well
she has a genius level IQ and graduated with a law degree from Moscow State, which has an AMAZING piece of architecture that I got a tour of and met some of her teachers!

I hired her to do research on Russian laws about "designer drugs" as well as her access to the Moscow Court Archives
to extract all case histories that came to the courts concerning designer drugs in the last 10 years
and we analyzed this information together....

I am Faberge, and she is my beautiful creation
I would never do anything to diminish her...

our relationship has a business as well as a personal level
I am her BFF and she is mine, almost like another daughter to me....

meanwhile, I have met another Russian woman named "Poison Ivy" who I am also trying to recruit...
all these girls are for "eyes only" to look at only.....
anything else would be dangerous and destructive

so you better have a sexual outlet "some place else"
so you can "control yourself", "and don't pee in the water supply"
ya know what I'm sayin?



"and has very low morals to say the least."
yeah, well, what can I say...
i'm a "biznesman" not a choir boy so whatdaya expect me to have...






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Re: First date advice
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2020, 09:14:41 PM »

Ignore "krimster" by his own admission he is a "high functioning drug addict" and has very low morals to say the least.


I dunno.. I kinda like the artsy way Krim puts words together.  Often, probably closer to reality than many may want to openly admit.

A drug addict with poor morals? Your blusterous statement, after all, is quite subjective and I doubt you two know each other well enough to form a qualified opinion or?


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Re: First date advice
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2020, 11:58:17 PM »
Trench,

Let's be honest...when have you EVER been invited back to a lass' home.....?

Loads of guys have visited FSU W home's, met family and warmth.... 

Personally, I don't carry much cash and rely on cards with a daily limit.

I have not been mugged, yet...

However, I knew a great deal more about any lady I might be due to meet...



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Re: First date advice
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2020, 12:50:43 AM »
Hello.

Just relax, be yourself as much as possible, but be assertive.  Have the first meeting at someplace casual, for coffee or tea, or lunch.  If things go well, tell her you like her and set the next date.  Pick the time and venue and take it from there.

Have fun.

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Re: First date advice
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2020, 01:05:51 AM »
why is “casual sex” inferior to any other form of sex
or why is another form superior to it?
Casual sex is sex without love, how could it not be inferior? Is having sex with a prostitute the same as any other type of sex? If you think that's different then clearly there are types of sex that are superior to others

another reason to have had multiple girl friends before your wife
are the love making skills you will build up
I'd rather build those with my wife

this is why with the 19 yr olds, like the one you’re intending to date in Ukraine
I "gave them head"....
because the Ukrainian guys don’t it at all, but DO expect a BJ from them!
this will be the first time these girls had oral sex
AND it will be with a foreigner
they WILL come hard, right in your face, and to their BIG SURPRIZE"
and after you do it, you cradle them in your arms
they have the most beautiful bodies you could ever imagine, I mean OMG!
I found it hard to take my eyes off them, they were so lovely

but, if you want to turn down opportunities of having experiences like that
I can't give my wife oral sex? This seems like the best argument to find a wife ironically. You want to stick your tongue into the vagina of some girl you don't even know? Man I can't imagine why Ukrainian guys wouldn't want to do that lol, you want me to link you to a story where a guy bit a chunk of gonorrhea doing that?

Ignore "krimster" by his own admission he is a "high functioning drug addict"
Yeah he's on something
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Re: First date advice
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2020, 02:48:14 AM »
Hmm, other than the noob, his most prodigious 'advisors' on this thread ...

Not exactly covered themselves in glory on the FSU W front, but still feel the need to 'contribute'.

I think sex is great, with someone you REALLY know.....so the lad just needs to ensure his little brain is kept in check.

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« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2020, 03:04:41 AM »
Thanks! I will watch out for what you mentioned.

That's ok, I forgot to mention if not already take a photo of your passport details page with your mobile. Upload it to the cloud, Google photos, etc. That way if the worst case scenario happens and you lose it you will still have that info to access for the embassy lot.  I often carry a paper copy as backup also.

Fortunately to date I have never lost my passport abroad but would imagine it is an unhappy place to be in should it happen. The more stuff on your side in such an instance probably the better. I would guess outside of Kiev the police station would be the nearest place to go in such an event.
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Re: First date advice
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2020, 03:13:15 AM »
Trench,

Let's be honest...when have you EVER been invited back to a lass' home.....?

Loads of guys have visited FSU W home's, met family and warmth.... 

Personally, I don't carry much cash and rely on cards with a daily limit.

I have not been mugged, yet...

However, I knew a great deal more about any lady I might be due to meet...

I do the same, what I was trying to say is don't put all your cards in one wallet as if that goes walkies you then are left with little if anything as a means of paying for stuff. That means stuff could get pretty dire out there quickly.

Whether I have been invited back to a lasses home is irrelevant. Relationships go as they do.

I'm just saying it's better for Zoomer to be well organized and thought out precautions. I wish I knew this stuff at the start as generally I've been quite lucky. Had I had bad luck I could have been really screwed out there. None of this stuff tends to be covered up front to a newbie and it really needs to be just in case.

I think we need to remember that times may be getting pretty desperate out there soon if they are not already because of the affect from the virus lockdown on the economy, etc.
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Re: First date advice
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2020, 03:23:59 AM »
Trench is our resident 'expert' in how  NOT to date, btw.....

You ARE going about this completely wrong... From a planned campaign point of view...meeting someone you haven't video chatted with.... but, as you are on the ground...)

The guy is not on a 'planned campaign' he is going to meet a girl. It may work it may not, odds are always in the may not on balance of probabilities of course.

Zoomer just wants to check the country/place out. As you know I did the same on meeting a girl in Nikolaev. I didn't Skype with her beforehand and I just really wanted to see the area anyway that I had heard so much about. Now that meet didn't go any further than the dinner date. Admittedly that was a bit of a let down but it happens and I learnt from it. I still checked out the area and had a decent enough time there. If Zoomers date doesn't work out then he can still check out the local area and see what he can learn. Even a semi industrial area can tell you about a society/culture that can be worthwhile in future endeavours.
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Re: First date advice
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2020, 09:22:03 AM »
I would use an interpreter. Yes it may only be for a few days......and you will have to eventually communicate by yourselves. But......it may help to remove misunderstandings in initial communications. Even minor misunderstandings could derail the whole visit....without having someone to correct the miscommunication. I went to see 14 women through an agency (back in the Dark Ages) in three weeks time. Having an interpreter for even a few days helped me cut through the crap and straighten our a few misunderstandings. In the greater scheme of things....it is a small expense to have the services of an interpreter for a day (and if things look promising) ...........or two. I second the the recommendation to use the services of "Starlit" who is a forum member. Good luck.


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Re: First date advice
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2020, 10:33:05 AM »
learn sex with your wife?
how’s that gonna work for the first time?
where I come from, you wouldn't get a second time, if the first one is not so "interesting"

ok, moving along....

“You want to stick your tongue into the vagina of some girl you don't even know?”

actually, what I DO is make a connection with a girl FIRST
a “friendship” if you will...
I like to “play” ski, swim, etc....
I go to these places where you do these things in Russia or Ukraine
and I see TONS and TONS of young single women there
some by themselves or some in small groups

I know how to TROLL them to get their attention
it’s easy, I’m a rich foreigner, I’m automatically a “public spectacle”
because I am EASILY recognizable by how I look
so I don’t have to do much to get their attention

then, after I get their attention, I CHARM them
then after I charm them and gain their trust, I feed them
and then after that, they will want to make a “sexual display” so they will take their clothes off
and lay on the couch or bed or floor even
and they will show me their “junk”

now, I can’t speak for you, and since you haven’t had this experience, you can’t either
but for me, when I FIRST saw a naked 19 yr old Ukrainian girl’s junk
it gave me an INTENSE RUSH...
up to that point, I had only seen that HIGH level of female erotic beauty in Men’s Magazines
but never actually in person...
and there it was, unexpectedly literally staring me in the face

so, I’m kinda curious what your response will be
if and when a Ukrainian girl does that to you
like they have so MANY times with me

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Re: First date advice
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2020, 11:20:27 AM »
I second the the recommendation to use the services of "Starlit" who is a forum member. Good luck.



I think you meant Stirlitz


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Re: First date advice
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2020, 12:30:06 PM »
Zoomer,

I never said welcome to the forum, so welcome to the forum.
Let me pass out some standard forum advice.

When you ask questions various members will give you
answers for free. Some of the advice will be very good
and some of it will be more dubious.

Your job is to sift through the advice and decide how much
credibility to assign each piece and sort out what you think
will work best for you, your goals, personality and situation.
Use the best and ignore the rest. Above all don't get offended.
Nobody knows you and you are relatively anonymous here.

I also recommend that you don't give out much personal
information about yourself and ESPECIALLY about the girl
you are going to meet. I gave out a very small amount of
information and one forum member figured out who she
was and managed to contact the woman I was meeting and
started a huge fight between us. Keep yourself relatively
anonymous.

Udachi!

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Re: First date advice
« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2020, 01:15:49 PM »
Ukraine reports a record increase in Coronavirus cases:

http://menafn.com/1100589612/Ukraine-reports-1271-new-coronavirus-cases-in-past-24-hours

Still quite low out there if the official figures are to be believed, but the graph at the moment is showing an upward trend. If not already Ukraine might be set for a big crises in cases, possibly.

As it stands no reason to put you off as it's much the same no doubt in Belarus and elsewhere.

When do you leave for Ukraine Zoomer?
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Re: First date advice
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2020, 07:20:54 PM »
Ukraine reports a record increase in Coronavirus cases:

http://menafn.com/1100589612/Ukraine-reports-1271-new-coronavirus-cases-in-past-24-hours

Still quite low out there if the official figures are to be believed, but the graph at the moment is showing an upward trend. If not already Ukraine might be set for a big crises in cases, possibly.

As it stands no reason to put you off as it's much the same no doubt in Belarus and elsewhere.

When do you leave for Ukraine Zoomer?

Trench,

As you are now advising others to go to BY and UA, what's holding YOU  back ? ..

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Re: First date advice
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2020, 09:37:48 PM »
Billy B,


Yes........."Stirlitz". When I sign "Capt B" .................it automatically tries to change it to "Cant B" ?????????????????????


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Re: First date advice
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2020, 10:29:41 PM »
Trench,

As you are now advising others to go to BY and UA, what's holding YOU  back ? ..

I'm not advising others to go Mobers, Zoomer is already out there in Belarus and has decided to go to Ukraine. I personally would like to wait and see the way matters are going before going out there and potentially ending up having problems. Do try to keep up Mobers ;)
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Re: First date advice
« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2020, 02:52:55 AM »
I personally would like to wait and see the way matters are going before going out there and potentially ending up having problems.

I got in and managed to avoid quarantine. (Legally, I can PM you if you want to know how but don't want to post about this publicly)
Anyway though we had our date and it went really well  :) She didn't speak any English but the translate app was actually very effective and we talked for almost 5 hours with it. I went in for the kiss at the beginning and end (got the cheek both times haha but she kissed me back on the cheek at the end). Big thank you to everyone here for the advice (even you, krimster) I think there's a lot of potential here, but whether it ends in marriage or not I'll have considered the trip a success.

 

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