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IMBRA Process and Impacts
« on: February 10, 2009, 06:33:43 AM »
Recently, I developed a flowchart to try to illustrate the impacts IMBRA has on the process of communications and eventual immigration to the US. You can find the chart here -- http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?pid=46.

I have attached the image files to this post, but the charts will be kept updated at the link above.

A couple of things jumped out at me while developing this chart.

One is - the mandatory insertion of the IMB in the communication process.

Considering our previous poll of our member's perceptions of IMB's in terms of ethics and honesty (reference this link -- http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=3322.0), it makes one wonder about a law that would insert an IMB into the communication process.

When interviewed by the GAO last year, I told them IMBRA had essentially provided the IMB's a license to steal. Because they are squarely implanted in the middle of the communication process (reference the flowchart), and because most charge a fee for acting as an intermediary, it seems that IMBRA is driving a behavior that was unintended by the authors - OR - maybe that was the intent all along. Maybe their objective was to create a financial impediment. Surely there is a cost for an IMB to comply with IMBRA. At a minimum, they have overhead costs for collection of data from the customer and for checking the sex offender registries. Neither of these were required pre-IMBRA.

With the possibility (or likelihood) that IMBRA will impose an overhead cost for the IMB that gets passed along to customers - and the IMB will collect fees for acting as a communication intermediary - the end result is it drives additional cost to the US Citizen.

I realize most of this has been discussed in the past. The difference for me was to see it laid out in more concise form made the impacts all the more obvious.

On page 3 of the flow, the back-and-forth between various US agencies is also clear - as is some of the difficulty with IMBRA enforcement.

What do y'all think? Is this chart helpful? Does it need to be changed in any way? Did it raise any questions for you when you read it?

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Re: IMBRA Process and Impacts
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2014, 06:12:19 AM »
I don't understand why anyone would use an agency that complies with IMBRA. There are agencies that (aren't in the US &) ignore it completely.

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Re: IMBRA Process and Impacts
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2014, 10:49:02 AM »
Absolutely.
U.S. federal laws are not enforceable internationally.
Designed to hurt only American enterprise...
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Re: IMBRA Process and Impacts
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2014, 11:35:27 AM »
IIRC, IMBRA was initially motivated by many reported cases of foreign fiancées finding themselves enmeshed with US maniacs, psychos, criminals, etc. ;)
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Re: IMBRA Process and Impacts
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 11:58:17 AM »
IIRC, IMBRA was initially motivated by many reported cases of foreign fiancées finding themselves enmeshed with US maniacs, psychos, criminals, etc. ;)


Sandro, that fact didn't need to be posted.  Anyone reading the forums can tell we are all maniacs and psychos with a few criminals thrown in.    :devilish:

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Re: IMBRA Process and Impacts
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2014, 12:32:04 PM »
IMBRA was initially motivated by many reported cases of foreign fiancées finding themselves enmeshed with US maniacs, psychos, criminals, etc. ;)


And pushed by man hating feminists lobbying for the creation of it. Now that maniacs, psychos and criminals have a hard time marrying foreign women, they'll just have to stick with American women. IMBRA is a law to reduce the risks to one group of women only to increase the risks of another group of women. :rolleyes:
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Re: IMBRA Process and Impacts
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2014, 01:04:20 PM »

Sandro, that fact didn't need to be posted.  Anyone reading the forums can tell we are all maniacs and psychos with a few criminals thrown in.    :devilish:

I resemble that remark.

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Re: IMBRA Process and Impacts
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2014, 04:39:42 PM »
Now that maniacs, psychos and criminals have a hard time marrying foreign women, they'll just have to stick with American women. IMBRA is a law to reduce the risks to one group of women only to increase the risks of another group of women. :rolleyes:
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Re: IMBRA Process and Impacts
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2014, 04:56:06 AM »
IIRC, IMBRA was initially motivated by many reported cases of foreign fiancées finding themselves enmeshed with US maniacs, psychos, criminals, etc. ;)

I disagree completely. Someone arguing for banning cigarettes ALREADY wants to do it; after a cancer report is issued, they call for higher taxes on cigarettes, warnings on boxes and try to ban cigarettes outright.

The Feminists in America despise the idea of Men having an option; they don't like American Men marrying outside of the country. a Few ISOLATED cases were used as grounds to push an agenda. Assaults and homicides for foreign born wives are much lower than for the native women.

This is not the case of Law B was passed in response to Act A. It was Law A was passed and justification was assigned to action B.

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Re: IMBRA Process and Impacts
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2015, 08:46:23 PM »
So if you found some one on Vk. became their friend. Than Used the services of a dating agency to help with translation.  Does this still apply?
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