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Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« on: August 26, 2020, 05:49:48 PM »
Well aside from any unofficial side to Coronavirus numbers in Ukraine the official side is now that official Coronavirus numbers are on the rise, either that or the Chinese virus detecting kits are getting better lol.

http://www.aa.com.tr/en/latest-on-coronavirus-outbreak/ukraine-closes-borders-as-coronavirus-infections-rise/1954010

Looks like I was right to sit on my hands on that one as Ukraine is now closing its borders to all foreigners coming from in so it must be getting pretty bad there. Could well be that it might be getting out of hand there. I doubt this will be doing much good for their economy. Means little foreign wealth flowing in and probably tighter local lockdown measures making local business struggle out there I'm guessing.

With lockdown measures being extended to Oct/Nov direction I reckon it means its probably quite bad out there with things going from bad to worse. Even ex-PM falling ill from it in recent days:

http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/08/global-coronavirus-death-toll-surpasses-800000-live-updates-200822231200013.html
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2020, 05:27:08 AM »
If you are not already in a relationship, best to wait until there is a vaccine before traveling again.

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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2020, 05:46:05 AM »
He has no choice, now.

From tomorrow, no goreigners will be admitted unless resident

Update: brought fwd to today

Too late((

http://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-closes-border-foreigners-coronavirus/30807455.html

« Last Edit: August 28, 2020, 05:49:25 AM by msmob »

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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2020, 06:21:06 AM »


Looks like I was right to sit on my hands on that one as Ukraine is now closing its borders to all foreigners coming from in so it must be getting pretty bad there. Could well be that it might be getting out of hand there. I doubt this will be doing much good for their economy. Means little foreign wealth flowing in and probably tighter local lockdown measures making local business struggle out there I'm guessing.

With lockdown measures being extended to Oct/Nov direction I reckon it means its probably quite bad out there with things going from bad to worse. Even ex-PM falling ill from it in recent days:

http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/08/global-coronavirus-death-toll-surpasses-800000-live-updates-20082223120001
« Last Edit: August 29, 2020, 06:23:14 AM by Chelseaboy »
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2020, 06:23:56 AM »
Nothing compared to the USA and UK though.


185,986 Covid-19 deaths in the USA.


41,486 Covid-19 deaths in the UK.


2,492 Covid-19 deaths in Ukraine.


Just to put things into perspective Trench,so don't get your hopes up that the Ukraine economy will fall apart and you'll get tons of beauties in distress who will do anything to marry a foreigner from the 20% crashed economy in the UK..with thousands losing their jobs here everyday.


I see SAGE is now saying the UK could get another 85,000 Covid-19 deaths this winter as a second wave smashes into us..and you think Ukraine has got problems.


I communicate with a couple of ladies in Ukraine and they are well aware of the situation here in the UK...it's hot news over there.






« Last Edit: August 29, 2020, 06:41:41 AM by Chelseaboy »
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2020, 06:41:21 AM »
185,986 Covid-19 deaths in the USA.

41,486 Covid-19 deaths in the UK.

2,492 Covid-19 deaths in Ukraine.

As I have pointed out before . . . those are REPORTED deaths . . . and for many countries, they are not the ACTUAL number.

So it is comparing apples and oranges.
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2020, 06:47:09 AM »
That's guesswork on your part though...no proof.


Just because other countries have lower death rates than ours doesn't mean they're all lying or hiding the figures.


In actual fact Public health England is being closed down because they had INFLATED the Covid-19 death figures by 5,377.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2020, 06:52:21 AM by Chelseaboy »
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2020, 07:59:30 AM »
CB fell for the UK govt figures NOT our office of National Statistics.
60k+ died from the virus..

The UK govt also told us it 'hits targets for testing ( 100k tests by the end of May)...

But some were counted twice...

The US has not (yet) surprised the UK's death rate, proportionally..

« Last Edit: August 29, 2020, 08:22:08 AM by AnonMod »

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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2020, 09:13:59 AM »

Current case fatality rate in France is over 20%. Some nations like the UK and Spain quit reporting data to calculate their case fatality rate. If the virus got out of control like it did in New York and New Jersey, within a few months it killed one of every 600 citizens there. The flu, heart disease, or any other injury or illness can't come close to killing as many humans. With only a few states out of control on deaths, it elevated the coronavirus as the number one killer of Americans. The reason we don't see a lot of deaths now is because we have altered our way of life to prevent spread.
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2020, 10:56:14 AM »
Current case fatality rate in France is over 20%. Some nations like the UK and Spain quit reporting data to calculate their case fatality rate. If the virus got out of control like it did in New York and New Jersey, within a few months it killed one of every 600 citizens there. The flu, heart disease, or any other injury or illness can't come close to killing as many humans. With only a few states out of control on deaths, it elevated the coronavirus as the number one killer of Americans. The reason we don't see a lot of deaths now is because we have altered our way of life to prevent spread.


Fake News
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2020, 11:46:54 AM »

Fake News

We are making major changes in our lives to reduce deaths and make it only our third leading cause of death. We donít even make these changes for our leading cause of death until COVID easily took the top spot.
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2020, 12:19:27 PM »
We are making major changes in our lives to reduce deaths and make it only our third leading cause of death. We donít even make these changes for our leading cause of death until COVID easily took the top spot.

I do not agree. Itís politicized and for reasons other than mitigation
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2020, 08:53:45 PM »
I do not agree. Itís politicized and for reasons other than mitigation

Forget about what the liberals are saying. Trump willingly sacrificed trillions of dollars and our economy to get the results that COVID will end up the third leading cause of deaths of Americans this year. Trump is spending hundreds of billions if not trillions to find treatments and vaccines to beat this virus. This virus is costing us and other countries big time because it is bad news.
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2020, 08:56:01 PM »

After 4 weeks of battling the COVID in a Ukrainian hospital, my wife's uncle finally went home. Medical tests shows he has heart and lung damage though. Hopefully it won't be permanent.
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2020, 07:40:36 AM »
Medical tests shows he has heart and lung damage though. Hopefully it won't be permanent.

I have heard it will be permanent.
Same thing happened to my 98 year old Mother.
She survived Corona itself, but now has the lung damage.
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2020, 08:29:15 AM »
Forget about what the liberals are saying. Trump willingly sacrificed trillions of dollars and our economy to get the results that COVID will end up the third leading cause of deaths of Americans this year. Trump is spending hundreds of billions if not trillions to find treatments and vaccines to beat this virus. This virus is costing us and other countries big time because it is bad news.

Right, and 7 billion will die of this virus after a year.  Even the CDC is now (apparently) reporting that only 6% of deaths died of the ViRUS alone. 94% died of comorbidity.

Next time just say no.
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2020, 01:35:07 AM »
This newly released report tells us for the first time how badly Ukraine is likely to be affected by the fallout from the Coronavirus:

http://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine/comprehensive-assessment-confirms-devastating-impact-covid-19-ukraine-enuk

This is a far worse assessment then the news reports to date that have been suggesting Ukraine will rebound after the virus back to economic growth. I feel the stated report is probably far more likely. Under such circumstances Ukrainian women are likely to be gagging for it.
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2020, 05:26:07 AM »
This newly released report tells us for the first time how badly Ukraine is likely to be affected by the fallout from the Coronavirus:

http://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine/comprehensive-assessment-confirms-devastating-impact-covid-19-ukraine-enuk

This is a far worse assessment then the news reports to date that have been suggesting Ukraine will rebound after the virus back to economic growth. I feel the stated report is probably far more likely. Under such circumstances Ukrainian women are likely to be gagging for it.



*I* am gagging ... but I'm not so desperate as to go 'off-piste' with another woman ...   

I don't expect UA women to be less choosy, Trench, sorry !

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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2020, 05:59:50 PM »
I read a petition review today for a visa out of Ukraine......
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Sept 21 2020--[She] had her interview today and it went swimmingly well. I am leaving a 5 star review to rate her experience with the interview itself; but leading up to it was a horrendous experience.
 
 It started in March, I (petitioner) had flown to be present at her interview. The day before our interview date, the embassy called her and cancelled it due to the Corona epidemic blowing up. We were devastated... no matter how we begged and pleaded, they refused to interview her. We wasted so much time, money and effort. I had to fly back to the US before they closed down the airports. For the next six months, there was no movement on our case and every inquiry was met with vague responses of resuming asap but at an unknown date. It was incredibly frustrating.
 

 At the beginning of September, the Dept of State issued a notice that K1's would be given priority (presumably because lawsuits were being organized against them) and soon after, they called her asked if she was available to interview Sept 21. She immediately accepted it and was given further instructions. Medical expiration was extended by one month, so as long as she enters the US before mid October, we won't need a new medical appointment.
 
 The interview itself was a breeze. She showed up 20 minutes before, was escorted inside. There was one person ahead of her. The kind middle aged blonde lady welcomed her in accented Russian/Ukrainian and requested she speak in English for the interview. We had been anticipating this as we were informed by someone else the week before that their interview had to be conducted in English only as well. She was asked about her relationship with me, the times we met, what we had in common, and within 15 minutes she was approved. We are both so ecstatic! Finally, after all this time... Now onto the next step, getting her here safely!
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2020, 06:40:07 PM »
Forget about what the liberals are saying. Trump willingly sacrificed trillions of dollars and our economy to get the results that COVID will end up the third leading cause of deaths of Americans this year. Trump is spending hundreds of billions if not trillions to find treatments and vaccines to beat this virus. This virus is costing us and other countries big time because it is bad news.

Overall Trump did a pretty good job against Covid, starting with when he cancelled flights from China.

The libs and the media claimed he was racist for doing that. The coverage has followed a similar pattern.
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2020, 12:40:16 AM »
Cancelling flights was and is a pointless exercise.

Most nations allowed nations to return or repatriated them.

Most nations trusted their citizens to self-isolate or tested them during quarantine.

When other nations locked down the skies in the US were busy with folks flying across the country.....




 

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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2020, 09:41:44 PM »
Now remember everyone, any talk of Trump or US politics on this thread is now strictly forbidden! All of us non US guys on here got bored and switched off from that a long, long time ago.
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2020, 01:08:10 PM »
First official source in the UK press that all is not going well in Ukraine with the Coronavirus:

http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-ukraine-cases-update-lockdown-covid-infections-b878673.html%3famp

Looks like they are now officially admitting the hospital system is cracking under it all and may not hold up as things get worse. Shortages of Doctors, expensive medicine and beds apparently.

Meanwhile Ukraine is looking at having to lockdown again which it can ill afford. The economy already weakened by the virus, civil war, corruption is probably not going to hold up well.
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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2020, 01:10:54 PM »
Well as someone who is in Ukraine now, and seen a lot of cities, there is a struggle, bought two men a big mac last night as they were homeless, a few days ago after a date with a lady. But far from as bad as i heard in the UK, financially people were struggling, but now restrictions are lifted, people are working again.

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Re: Coronavirus Crises in Ukraine
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2020, 01:19:20 PM »
Depends where you are in the UK..

'My' rural region has nearly 50 times less new cases than ( say) Manchester

Friends of ours in Volgograd, Russia have it in the extended family ..

 

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