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Anyone heard of this scam?
« on: September 16, 2020, 06:58:08 AM »
Hi, a friend of mine got hooked up with a Russian woman.  He's late 40s, she's mid 20s and looks like a model.  I told him to be careful, that it seems too good to be true, but he jumped in head first.  She said because her father is american that she could easily get a tourist visa, and even in the days of covid supposedly obtained one in about a week.  All this is throwing red flags to me, but he sends her money for a flight, something I told him to NEVER do.  To make a long story short, she claimed to have gotten stopped at customs.  At first he told me she got stopped because she had $14,000 worth of jewelry and didn't declare it, but now he's telling me he saw the paperwork and it was actually $1.3 million dollars in diamonds!  He is in talks with a lawyer, that called him out of the blue to discuss the case, and this woman says the lawyer provided her with a room to stay while it gets sorted out.  She said that her passport was confiscated at the airport.  I asked him, between the flight, money to this lawyer, and customs, how much has he sent so far.  It's $5,000🙄. Not bad for a woman who spent about a month talking to him.  He STILL doesn't think it's a scam, despite me pointing out how ridiculous it all is.  Maybe I can convince him otherwise if this is a common scam that others have fallen for?  I searched and couldn't find anything even remotely similar. I just worry about him because he's my best friend and I don't want him to lose even more money. 

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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2020, 07:05:16 AM »

It's a very common scam. Woman needs money for flight. The day she is supposed to get on the plane, she tells man she has more problems that are solved with money. Man so close to having hot woman show up on his doorstep thinks with little head and little head says "Send more money". This scam has been going on for years because it works. Your friend's actions will encourage the scammer to continue with the scam on other men. Tell your friend it's best he doesn't get involved with women who's problems are solved with money.
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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2020, 10:58:11 AM »
I also know this one for years.

Rule number 1 you first move your ass to meet her even if you have no arms and no legs due to war injuries
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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2020, 10:59:50 AM »
This is one more belongs to the nigerian scams. So if he never saw her face it's possible that a whole tribe is having good time riight now.
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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2020, 11:22:57 AM »
Both Billy and Pat are spot on.... your mate has fallen for the most basic and most common Russian dating scam, the visa / airfare / crisis at the airport scam. The guys who fall for this are usually complete beginners who have received an unsolicited email or joined a dating site without doing research.... These are actually the easiest scammers to avoid. Hed loose his life savings if he ever joined a PPL site and met a prodater 😉

I havent been on the site much lately, but Ive come across several guys during the last year randomly on Facebook like your mate..... fallen for a visa - airfare scammer. It took one a while to believe me, but I pointed him in the right direction and he easily found a genuine woman online through a legitimate site. Hes planning to meet her after covid restrictions are lifted.

Ive probably chatted with 10-15 of these scammers during my time on dating sites and baited some. They correspond in a way thats nothing like a real Russian woman would. Its so obvious I can pick them as a scammer in the first sentence, like most guys here would. Your mate will kick himself if he ever meets a genuine Russian woman online.... the difference is like night and day.

Show your friend this black list.... youll find hundreds of examples of this scam in different forms and maybe his scammer too. Click on the womens names to the right of her picture and the victims have written an account of how they were scammed. Be aware that the women in the pictures are often victims too. They have had their images stolen from social media. In other words your friends has probably been talking to hairy Boris.

http://www.womenrussia.com/blacklist_summary.htm
« Last Edit: September 16, 2020, 12:38:35 PM by Davo »

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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2020, 11:28:28 AM »
Hi, a friend of mine got hooked up with a Russian woman.  He's late 40s, she's mid 20s and looks like a model.  I told him to be careful, that it seems too good to be true, but he jumped in head first.  She said because her father is american that she could easily get a tourist visa, and even in the days of covid supposedly obtained one in about a week.  All this is throwing red flags to me, but he sends her money for a flight, something I told him to NEVER do.  To make a long story short, she claimed to have gotten stopped at customs.  At first he told me she got stopped because she had $14,000 worth of jewelry and didn't declare it, but now he's telling me he saw the paperwork and it was actually $1.3 million dollars in diamonds!  He is in talks with a lawyer, that called him out of the blue to discuss the case, and this woman says the lawyer provided her with a room to stay while it gets sorted out.  She said that her passport was confiscated at the airport.  I asked him, between the flight, money to this lawyer, and customs, how much has he sent so far.  It's $5,000🙄. Not bad for a woman who spent about a month talking to him.  He STILL doesn't think it's a scam, despite me pointing out how ridiculous it all is.  Maybe I can convince him otherwise if this is a common scam that others have fallen for?  I searched and couldn't find anything even remotely similar. I just worry about him because he's my best friend and I don't want him to lose even more money.


It fascinates me to no end how someone's 'friend' is always caught up in scams, while 'this' friend is smart enough to surf the 'net and find a venue like RWD to share/ask about a possible scam. Anyway, sorry about your friend. I hope $5,000.00 won't cause him too much of a hardship, and look at it as fee for a short period of jism-filled memories.
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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2020, 12:47:23 PM »

It fascinates me to no end how someone's 'friend' is always caught up in scams, while 'this' friend is smart enough to surf the 'net and find a venue like RWD to share/ask about a possible scam. Anyway, sorry about your friend. I hope $5,000.00 won't cause him too much of a hardship, and look at it as fee for a short period of jism-filled memories.

Its getting worse!!.... Main stream American dating sites are being flooded with Russian visa scammers in the last few years. During my time online dating in Australia I found more scammers of all kinds than I did on FSU dating sites. Thousands of guys are falling for this. The men ive helped recently are lobbing in FB relationship advice groups after meeting scammers on local sites.

I helped a guy from Wyoming this way. He spent 3 months chatting with a scammer. It only took him a week on fdating to find a really nice woman from Kazan, after some dating tips on how to meet genuine women.

I keep saying this site needs to be more newbie friendly. Im giving advice to 4 new guys I met this week alone on FB. I point them here and they wont sign up after reading other intros. RWD could be so much more than it it currently!!! Its dead compared to my FB messenger in regards to giving advice.
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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2020, 01:00:40 PM »

It's best any newbie ask questions on this forum before wasting thousands of dollars and months of his life on a scammer. There are great women in the FSU to marry and we can help a guy sort out the good and bad.
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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2020, 01:08:16 PM »
It's best any newbie ask questions on this forum before wasting thousands of dollars and months of his life on a scammer. There are great women in the FSU to marry and we can help a guy sort out the good and bad.

We are failing miserably at this because the site isnt as accommodating as it used to be. As I said, Ive tried to get guys to sign up, but they cant be bothered copping aggression if they make basic mistakes or say the wrong thing. Thousands of guys view this site a day and we cant even get a fraction of a percent sign up. This site should be pumping given the random guys Im meeting online who are actively looking to date FSU women.
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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2020, 01:36:11 PM »
I wonder how many guys this 'Woman' at the airport has on the hook at the same time?
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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2020, 01:38:07 PM »
Davo is right.

He gives us a "lesson" here, myself included for a past action I have done wrongly.
We could make it more friendly for newbies.
Every one of us, senior members, could make it more easy.

It happens this week, in an other forum, that I am giving some help to a guy who have been ripped of 40 grands.
And this one is worse than the girl blocked at the airport. It pulled him to pieces.
Basically two years of dating during he had been a cow and finally he discovered she has married to a local.
 
So I would say that the crisis makes the dating market more dangerous than before.
And because of the SEO and the stupid google algorithm more men are pushed to the scam circuit industry while the independant scammers (fat Yuri, nigerians) have still nice days to come.
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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2020, 01:40:08 PM »
We are failing miserably at this because the site isnt as accommodating as it used to be. As I said, Ive tried to get guys to sign up, but they cant be bothered copping aggression if they make basic mistakes or say the wrong thing. Thousands of guys view this site a day and we cant even get a fraction of a percent sign up. This site should be pumping given the random guys Im meeting online who are actively looking to date FSU women.


I'd partly agree with you there, Davo.

But I wouldn't lay the full blame on RWD. More times than not, people who are caught in a scam net are so defensive of their perceived *new found love affair* that any advice either falls by the wayside, or as sometimes happen, become hostile towards anyone who tries to help and tells them they're being scammed.

It's good you give folks a link to this site, but the frequency of 'any' civil FSU dating related topics are so few and far in between these days (and all they see are old farts squabbling about politics, or opine on places and events that doesn't concern them, or they have never been in - hahah!), hence they probably decide after reading these riveted threads/exchanges that the members are actually the ones that need 'help'.
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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2020, 01:41:10 PM »
I wonder how many guys this 'Woman' at the airport has on the hook at the same time?
 
She went to the jewelry shop to buy all she needed with the money she gathered.
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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2020, 01:47:24 PM »

I'd partly agree with you there, Davo.

But I wouldn't lay the full blame on RWD. More times than not, people who are caught in a scam net are so defensive of their perceived *new found love affair* that any advice either falls by the wayside, or as sometimes happen, become hostile towards anyone who tries to help and tells them they're being scammed.

It's good you give folks a link to this site, but the frequency of 'any' civil FSU dating related topics are so few and far in between these days (and all they see are old farts squabbling about politics, or opine on places and events that doesn't concern them, or they have never been in - hahah!), hence they probably decide after reading these riveted threads/exchanges that the members are actually the ones that need 'help'.
 
Yep that's true also. I forgot the capacity of deny of the victims that finally lands is some agressivity while the truth is about to pup up in their face.
Read : "Operation white panther"
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2020, 02:03:27 PM »

I'd partly agree with you there, Davo.

But I wouldn't lay the full blame on RWD. More times than not, people who are caught in a scam net are so defensive of their perceived *new found love affair* that any advice either falls by the wayside, or as sometimes happen, become hostile towards anyone who tries to help and tells them they're being scammed.

It's good you give folks a link to this site, but the frequency of 'any' civil FSU dating related topics are so few and far in between these days (and all they see are old farts squabbling about politics, or opine on places and events that doesn't concern them, or they have never been in - hahah!), hence they probably decide after reading these riveted threads/exchanges that the members are actually the ones that need 'help'.

I dont think RWD is to blame for anyone falling victim to a scam, there is more than enough info here for a non member to avoid scams and I agree that its hard to get through to some men like the OPs friend. My comments arent really related to this topic. Im just making the point that my experience off site shows that lots of men are still considering FSU dating , actively corresponding with women and travelling to meet them. They have lots of questions that experience members on this site could give better answers than beginners like me, but lots arent comfortable signing up. What we do about this I dont know. I suggested locking all pages except the first from each topic to non members to entice guests to become members and hopefully encourage more relevant discussions. Also having a newbie friendly panel thats main goal is to make them feel comfortable when first signing up and posting.
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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2020, 02:04:06 PM »

I'd partly agree with you there, Davo.

But I wouldn't lay the full blame on RWD. More times than not, people who are caught in a scam net are so defensive of their perceived *new found love affair* that any advice either falls by the wayside, or as sometimes happen, become hostile towards anyone who tries to help and tells them they're being scammed.



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Re: Anyone heard of this scam?
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2020, 02:17:43 PM »
I dont think RWD is to blame for anyone falling victim to a scam, there is more than enough info here for a non member to avoid scams and I agree that its hard to get through to some men like the OPs friend. My comments arent really related to this topic. Im just making the point that my experience off site shows that lots of men are still considering FSU dating , actively corresponding with women and travelling to meet them. They have lots of questions that experience members on this site could give better answers than beginners like me, but lots arent comfortable signing up. What we do about this I dont know. I suggested locking all pages expect the first from each topic to non members to entice guests to become members and hopefully encourage more relevant discussions. Also having a newbie friendly panel thats main goal is to make them feel comfortable when first signing up and posting.


Not too long ago, I believe the two sections, Starting Out/Trip Reports, where somewhat a sanctuary for newbies and posters to post anything they like without getting winged by the peanut gallery.

Lately, what happens here is when a member gives a newbie, or anyone else for the matter, an opinion based on their experience - not long after - in comes the usual *Mr. I-Know-Better-Than-Anyone-Because-My-Way-Is-The-Only-Way* posting crap - then the thread just falls to pieces. That's been widely allowed here of late, at times even defended.
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