I search the man of my dream

[sensuality]

Hi. Thanks for your wishes to me about meeting with nice man. I see on the photo you are with nice girl. Your wife? She is beauty. I wish you happiness. Marina

[Vaughn]

Elen wrote:

Look You came here to find a man, didn't you?

So let return to that your task and don't waste time at me.

Oh, Elen, I don't think Marina's wasting time at all - her conversation with you is VERY revealing. Let me tell you how I perceive the exchange: She asks you a few questions and makes a few statements in a gentle and very feminine manner. You tend to retort, not respond - there is more than a subtle difference. Criticism and sarcasm are quite easy to master, even in a foreign language; compassion and grace are not. Marina embodies both, and it's got you riled - fair statement?

[Vaughn]

I see on the photo you are with nice girl. Your wife? She is beauty. I wish you happiness.

Thanks! Yes, she's my wife, and I'm her very lucky husband.

[tim 360]

  Really too bad some of you flamers can't "think before you type".  Like for 30 seconds.  Must be a disease not confined to country or gender.  Maybe an unhappy life and an inclination to insult others in a way you could not do in-person.  Ya'll know who you are.  You got NO manners.  Just rude dudes & dudette.  Ya'll owe the girl an apology,  if you got any class at all.

FYI:  I can tell you Marina is a 100% real person with a real brain and feelings and some of you should be ashamed of yourselves and the garbage you posted at  her.  Rude.  Crude.  No manners.  Guttersnipes.  And you did the same thing to poor "photo guy".  WTF.  This has really turned into a "combat board". 

I had thought Dan created this board for people to get help and get good advice.  And it has really boomeranged into a place for a new person to get shelled...flamed..insulted...not helped or provided with helpful advice at all.  This place makes thePL board look polite,  when it was at it's worst.

Ya'll oughta be ashamed of yourselves.  Get a real life,  Ciao, Tim

ps: somebody just posted that his translator said that 50% of the guys lookin' for an RW bride were screwy....sounds about right.  Maybe 60%. 

 

 

 

 

[Turboguy]

I will go along with 50% of the guys searching for FSU wifes being a bit screwy.   I have met a lot of guys on the romance tours and they were all nice but probably 50% were screwy in one way or another.  

The reality of it is that that is probably a pretty standard cross section of people.   We all think the world is full of normal people but probably about half are a little screwy in one way or another.    When I look at the American Gals I dated about half were screwy in one way or another.   I can tell stories for hours.    I have had to take legal actions to keep one away and had to hide out for two years to get rid of her.   I can tell stories about the screwy gals i dated for hours.  

I do have to agree with Tim, it is sad to see some of the bitterness that comes out here.   I think the majority of the people are great and come here to learn and help but a few either have a nasty streak or not much tact. 

Miss Sensually posted her info and it was really sad to watch some of the idiotic comments about her.   She is a real person.  She is very pretty and seems very nice.  She does not deserve that.   Elen makes some interesting posts.   I am sure if she were hunting for a man, which she is not, and she looked like that, which we don't know what she looks like, and if she had a photo that made her look as attractive that she would be posting it where ever she could.   When I was posting my photos hoping to find a person I sure looked through all the photos I had trying to find ones that made me look good and still were realistic.  I sure can not fault her on her choice of photos.   Hang in there Miss Sensuality.  There are millions of American men who would consider being married to you to be a dream come true.

Photo guy posted his trip report and it was like war was declared on him.   I have to agree with the things Tim said.   I really like this forum.  I do think if people would use more restraint and show more consideration it would be an even better place. 

[525i]

Look You came here to find a man, didn't you?

So let return to that your task and don't waste time at me. That would not lead to any good for you (as for me I don't care. But you do)

I think it does, because we all can see that Marina is a good person with good heart. Marina, you will make one man very happy, who ever is your chosen one.

[Elen]

 

Oh, Elen, I don't think Marina's wasting time at all - her conversation with you is VERY revealing. Let me tell you how I perceive the exchange: She asks you a few questions and makes a few statements in a gentle and very feminine manner. You tend to retort, not respond - there is more than a subtle difference. Criticism and sarcasm are quite easy to master, even in a foreign language; compassion and grace are not. Marina embodies both, and it's got you riled - fair statement?

Sensuality

do you think that only woman with big bat can be good wife? do you think it's better to try to meet man without make up and good dresses? I am sure if you like somebody from men you try to have nice make up and to lost your fat. Or do you say him: hi, Honey, I am fat no clean girl and I like you?????

FOR ELEN: and I think you are bid girl and you understand that with my photo I TRY TO BE INETERSTING ONLY FOR MEN . And i am surprise that women have so big interest to my photo and information.


Dear Elen. As I understood you have man. But then one question why do you spend time in Internet ? why are you not with your man? Or does he try back at home when you sleep? If woman has man and she is happy with him then she will not have time to write bad-tempered letters to young girl from internet. If you are happy with him you'll spend evening with him in theater or cinema, or you'll have hot night with him. But you are all time here. what's wrong with you private life? are you happy???? I hope that you are. Best wishes. Marina

 And now I am sure that Elen think if she is from Moscow then she is better. But may be she is not from Moscow:?. Who knows?:? And why this woman is affraid to show here face???? Now she can only speack about my country and my photo. If she is so nice and the best then let's she shows her face us. What do you think about this jb?


Elen, why are there so much poison in your words?  I think it's only your mask. In your heart you are tender woman but anything makes you so angry. I don't know you in person but people like you they are only try to protect thierself from anything. But from what?

 

 

Perfect famine way( with perfect "arguments" and "answers to questions" ) to show up, discussing others

I'm not going to answer at any of her questions about my private life because I;m not that kind of woman who puts her half naked photo at public and discusses anything from personal life with first stranger especially if questions ask in such "famine" manner (I think that you are......... ( a bunch of "gentle famine's estimates).... aren't you)?

Good luck for you guys with such type of woman Like I said already it's just what you are looking for.

As for me I do have people next to me in reality who do appreciate my sarcasm and irony And who know me better than you and love me for my actions but not words

Let sensuality to find such people with all her "famine" (till now she failed to do that)

So let Sensuality start something another tread with some more interesting for you discussions ( like WHY "young girl" can't find anybody in reality) because I'm not going to be a rabbit for her psychological testing I leave that role for her future prays from America:D

 

 

Criticism and sarcasm are quite easy to master, even in a foreign language; compassion and grace are not. Marina embodies both, and it's got you riled - fair statement?

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 I re-posted all her statements and ask a favour to show me WHERE in her words did you see compassion and grace . Just curious about meaning of these words for you. 

As for "got me riled" then it's hard to do that for anybody. Want to continue this fight?? I'm ready and am for your (and her) service (if that's what you want, of course)



 

[ConnerVT]

[user=62]tim 360[/user] wrote:

ps: somebody just posted that his translator said that 50% of the guys lookin' for an RW bride were screwy....sounds about right.  Maybe 60%.   

That was me.  And although that statistic may be true for those who visit the FSU, I will attest that the sanity level of those who frequent this forum (or even most RW forums) is much higher.  Because these people actually think about what they do.

Yes, there can be some tough talk here.  Personally, I think it's much better than having warm smoke blown up your backside.  A support group needs to do more than tell you everything will be alright.  It also needs to interviene and tell you what it thinks is wrong.  Many of us cut right to the chase, for we have other things to do in life.  These are also some of the more knowledgable people I've come across in the past two years in my experience.

[Muzh]

#3 Let sensuality to find such people with all her "famine" (till now she failed to do that)

So let Sensuality start something another tread with some more interesting for you discussions ( like WHY "young girl" can't find anybody in reality) because I'm not going to be a rabbit for her psychological testing I leave that role for her future prays from America:D

Elen:

#1 I've been to your neck of the woods and I've seen young ladies dressed more provocatively than Marina in her photos.  The obvious answer is that they are trying to attract a man, and if you say it's wrong then I'll call you a hypocrite.  As to discussing her personal life with "strangers", isn't that what you do when you meet a man for the for the first time?  It's called a dialogue.

#2 Very good statement.  You should not live your life by what others say, isn't it?  With that said, Marina, you can follow Elen's lead.  If you, Elen, have a problem with that then you are not being honest with your statement.

3# It seems to me that she is doing just that, trying to find a good man using her femininity.  What is so wrong with that.  Unless she managed to push some of your buttons.

[Elen]

#1 I've been to your neck of the woods and I've seen young ladies dressed more provocatively than Marina in her photos.  The obvious answer is that they are trying to attract a man, and if you say it's wrong then I'll call you a hypocrite.  As to discussing her personal life with "strangers", isn't that what you do when you meet a man for the for the first time?  It's called a dialogue.

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1A   I didn't understand where you have been. As for me I have seen ladies dressed like Sensuality and like I said they didn't pass "face control" (if you know what I'm speaking about) in place where I meet men for discussin my life:P

  As for  hypocrisy then I see it in combination of photos and "goals" in profile. Sorry but I was raised with an idea that only girls of some kind tried to attract man in such way. And those girls rare become good wives. If you tell me you would put "another" ideas in minds of your own daughters then it's YOU who I would call hypocrite.

(though I know little abiut morls in prudebt America If judge by your reation at PhotoGuy"s girl who didn't jump to his bed at first date and to Sensuality with her method to attract males then your morals are somethingdifferebt to what we have here)

And if that the only one way to catch your attention then .... no comments

1B I'm not aganst to discuss HER  life if she willingly put herself at this podium. I'm only have no desire to discuss anything with anybody from my own life as I'm not "offer" myself for that here.

1C I do have dialog with men who I meet first time but I attract them  in another ways

Believe me or not but another ways do exist (even if you are not aware about them)

#2 Very good statement.  You should not live your life by what others say, isn't it?  With that said, Marina, you can follow Elen's lead.  If you, Elen, have a problem with that then you are not being honest with your statement. 

My statement was about your bias to judge people (both me and Sensuality)

by words. And I was discussing her actions - like putting  such photo on net and I wanted to know how such action sorted with words in profile (according to my morals an answer would be - in no way) Btw I didn't get her answer yet . Only a bunch of her "guesses" about my personal life  (which some of you called compassion and grace way  to prove something)

3# It seems to me that she is doing just that, trying to find a good man using her femininity.  What is so wrong with that.  Unless she managed to push some of your buttons.

I have not buttons she would manage to push as she knows nothing about me. All  her statements are based only on her rich "famine imagination" multiplied on her hobby in psychology. So let she drop such useless business with pushing my un-existence buttons and return to that goal what for she appeared here.

 

 

[Muzh]

Whatever works for you. Let's hear it.

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My statement was about your rendition to judge people (both me and Sensuality) by words. And I was discussing her actions - like putting  such photo on net and I wanted to know how such action sorted with words in profile (according to my morals an answer would be - in no way) Btw I didn't get her answer yet . Only a bunch of her "guesses" about my personal life  (which some of you called compassion and grace way  to prove something)

Right now, I'm borderline judging you.  You give me your opinion as an absolute, but you are unwilling to hear others.  As for judging Marina, I sent a post asking her to 1) show that she was real, and 2) defend herself because she was immediately called a slut based on her first post.  I'm glad she did respond.  BTW, what are your morals?  I know that you think women dressing provocatively are not good wife material.  Also, if a woman goes to University and gets a degree, it's a hobby.  Ukrainians are the scum of the world as well as any other territory outside Moscow.  Yes, I would like to hear your morals.

I have not buttons she would manage to push as she knows nothing about me. All  her statements are based only on her rich "famine imagination" multiplied on her hobby in psychology. So let she drop such useless business with pushing my un-existence buttons and return to that goal what for she appear here.

Actually, I think that you feel offended because a younger woman stood up to you and didn't show you any respect.  "-Marina, you ignorant slut." -"Yes Ma'am." would have been more appropriate?  Well, I'm a little bit older than you, so let's show some respect.  Hard to swallow, isn't it?  Respect is earned and you earn it by listening and being respectful of others first.

 

 

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[BC]

Muzh,

Didn't even read the last couple of rounds but noted that Newton's third law seems to be applicable here with speed and mass of virtual ink about equal on both sides..

[Elen]

You issued a blanket statement that women dressing like Marina do not make a good wife.  Is that so??  My ex would never dress like her and she was not a good wife nor mother.  So using this logic I would state that women not dressed like Marina are not good wives?

I issused a statement that woman who dressed like Sensuality would be "marked" like slut by securities at entrances where face conlrol used. (I suppose they do have experience in such business, like any duty-woman at a floor in hotels and all people at receptions. Belive me I do know what I'm speaking about.

As for good wives than I said that I was tought by my parents that naked body was not a tool to catch an attention on public.

I suppose it's enough logical.

As for your logic in the case with your wife than there are necessary conditions and there are sufficient conditions. Each makes his own choice among them. For all of you it seems "right" written profile and some "right" words are sufficient conditions to belive in somebodie's "true" goals

 

Actually, I think that you feel offended because a younger woman stood up to you and didn't show you any respect.  "-Marina, you ignorant slut." -"Yes Ma'am." would have been more appropriate?  Well, I'm a little bit older than you, so let's show some respect.  Hard to swallow, isn't it?  Respect is earned and you earn it by listening and being respectful of others first.

Respect??  Funny What for I would look a respect from her. (or any in Internet) I do have enough from those whose opinon means something to me.

Let her call me like she wants. But just will be aware she get a lot back without "respect"

As for other's opinions, then ONE MORE TIME

I asked her about her photo and words in profile. And got no "opinon" back except silly guesses about my own personality.

As for my moralities then let bother at first to find MY words that would prove all YOUR resumes about MY morals.


 

If you are willing to "dish it out", you have to be willing to take it once in a while.  If you are not willing to do that, then I suggest that you are not being fair and bordering on the hypocrite.  "Do as I say, not as I do" is not a way to have a discussion.

Let try And let "suggest" what you want just be aware it would be only YOUR sugestions

BTW being not fair with what and bothering on the hypocricy in what way??

Do you suspect I put such photo somewhere there?? and now am trying to hide that fact??

 

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[anono]

hi elen, i'm glad you do not have to commit suicide (or am i?).

if all women were the same, we'd be hunting them down for sport.

women. can't live with them, can't kill them.

[anono]

muzh, blanket statements is all elen knows how to make.

 

[Elen]

if you can see nothing except naked body then all other for you is blank

[Elen]

Just for you guys who love such profiles, belive in sinserity of words written there and think they mean something I found more couple girls

enjoy

#101  Julia

http://www.diamondsofrussia.net/101.html

I am not looking for an adventure. My intentions are very serious. I want to have a strong family with the right man. It's the only thing I miss in my life. Without it life is empty.



Inga

http://www.ladies-russia.net/profile.php?id=11390

 

My ambition is to inspire my beloved man constantly, to help him to keep the balance between career and private life, just as he will help me and inspire me to do good. But It s always for me * Love is first. I need a friend for sharing life, who wants to create a strong family, where the basis of all should be true love.

 

:D:D

 

[Photo Guy]

How romantic!
....but the words seems a bit fake, contrived.   Doug

By the way, I had no problem with their photos. Lots of
good women wear short skirts for an attractive effect. Larisa told me
the agency took about 80 photos of her and did not tell her which
two they were going to use.

The poses are probably directed by the photographer.

[Elen]

I did ask sensuality about her photos

And if she told that photos were not her own choice then there would not be all this useless discussion But she said 'If you want to get something from man then ........ " you should do things like that

So photos are really her choice (otherwise to words in profile)

[best-snowball]

I was not going to reply to these post but I am so try of reading about how you are running this girl down and you don't know a damn thing about her. She is smarter than all of you put together. I am sure that I am going to get some bad remarks back from this. Marina had asked me not write here but the more I read of you people running some one down that you do NOT know anything about I just could not keep quite any longer. I have met this girl in person so I KNOW her and what she is like. She is a very smart and intelligent girl. She has just completed her Masters degree. So that makes her a very smart beautiful and sexy girl. That is a very rare item. She is much more beautiful in person then any of her pictures. This is a sad world when we are so jealous of some one that is smarter than we are, that is more beautiful than we are, that is more sexy than we are that we can never say anything nice about that person. Maybe this world would be a better place if we can not say anything nice about some one that we would keep our damn month shut. Marina IS a very real and BEAUTIFUL person on the inside and out. This world would be much better off if we had a lot more people like Marina.

[Elen]

good luck for smart young sexy girl. with males in 30-60 years age group (as she put in one of her many profiles in Net)

BTW were you the first who visited her in reality? or you were number N?

 I would hear more positive reviews about her beauty smartiness and sexuality from males who already visited her

Огласите весь список, пожалуйста;)

( though as for beauty then it's v-e-e-ery individual thing (especially in the case with yours sensuality:D)

[best-snowball]

Again I am going to have to say something This girl may only be 23 but she is more mature than a like of 40 year old women in this country. She will put most of you to shame. She is very smart I she know what she wants to do with her life and has ideas of what she need to do to get there. You all think that it is so bad over there that she is only looking for a way out of that country. Boy are you wrong on that. The country is beautiful and I gave her the chance to let that country so she had wanted to leave so bad she would had jumped at the chance but she did not. She wants to think about it. That is a very big decision to make. Again a very smart girl and at the same time very beautiful and sexy.

[Elen]

She will put most of you to shame.

How?? By putting more naked photos at the Net?

She is very smart I she know what she wants to do with her life and has ideas of what she need to do to get there.

yes we saw those ideas at dating sites (in all variouse poses) . I think Albert with his 150 women''s experience would match her best

[best-snowball]

Sorry guys you are all wrong. She was with me from 25th March to 11 April That is why she did not write

[ConnerVT]

Don't worry, best-snowball.  You're only arguing with Elen, who will be glad to have her last word anything you post on the subject.  Don't rise to the flame bait.