Vaccine Misinformation

[fathertime]

It's astonishing to me how we can send billions of dollars for war games, but wouldn't instead spend the money to produce more vaccine and send them to poorer nations. 

One line of argument for the vaccine that I've heard (And Rejected) is that the more unvaccinatedpeople that catch the virus and spread it, the more mutations it will create.  I'm sure that is correct, BUT if that were such a concern, then we the vaccines should be spread globally asap.  The billions of people in Asia and Africa would be creating more mutations that would eventually find their way to the North America and Europe. 

Of course it is much more important to play our little war games and blowing up billions of dollars instead. 

Fathertime! 

[Jumper1]

One line of argument for the vaccine that I've heard (And Rejected) is that the more unvaccinatedpeople that catch the virus and spread it, the more mutations it will create.  I'm sure that is correct, BUT if that were such a concern, then we the vaccines should be spread globally asap.  The billions of people in Asia and Africa would be creating more mutations that would eventually find their way to the North America and Europe. 

Of course it is much more important to play our little war games and blowing up billions of dollars instead. 

Fathertime!

A truly lethal virus typically kills its hosts too quickly and dies off with the initially hosts.

If you have the bulk of a population vaccinated, but still able to catch and transmit a virus asymptomaticlly,and with less mortality , you would seemingly have the perfect petri dish for mutation.
Certainly as probable as mutation within a group of non vaccinated host .
So that seems an odd claim.

If the vaccine limits transmission then it could reduce this certainly.

Dint Scotland just have more vaccinated with covid than not?
Granted if the bulkmof a population is vaccinated tgat would naturally become the norm, but youd expect a much much lower case load.?

Anyway more food for thought.
81 studies on natural immunity..

http://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/?fbclid=IwAR3mqL4eB8oWsb37UwJnwxHCZ0AcV6NVHOz2LtgN3TMQqxFklJnKh2kxmEs

[BC]

AJ,

Studies can be quirky beasts, and the results apply only to the studied group.  Take, for example, this one:

http://health.mountsinai.org/blog/young-asymptomatic-people-can-get-reinfected-with-covid-19-and-spread-it-more-than-once/

“That’s an important take-home message,” says Dr. Sealfon. “Certainly, we can show from this study that there’s a fairly high risk of reinfection, and not everybody who has had infection will generate effective immunity. So you really want to vaccinate everyone and not worry if they’ve had it or not.”

Why some people fail to generate persistent immunity against reinfection from COVID-19 remains unknown. But highly variable responses to any disease are actually beneficial for evolution.

http://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.26.21250535v1.full-text

The study results apply to young marines that went through the program.

A 10% risk of reinfection within a six-week follow-up period is considerable, and no marine died.  However, we can't extrapolate that the same would happen within the average population.  But, with a decent amount of confidence, we can infer that the reinfection rate is at least 10% among those with prior infection and may be higher in the general population along with worse consequences.

That prior infection may provide some protection against reinfection is pretty clear. Still, in the end, it can't or has not been yet quantitatively measured to determine the level of protection acquired based on asymptomatic, mild, moderate, or severe infection levels.  OTOH You know you got the shot with vaccines, its efficacy and that it is easily documented, making prevention protocols for the entire population more straightforward.  It has also been proven that vaccines work, measured against an unvaccinated population that also consists of folks that had prior infection, even unknowingly.

Whether one has had a prior infection or not, my suggestion remains to get vaccinated and maintain basic precautions like masking if you can't maintain social distancing.

The equation for me is simple.  If I die of COVID tomorrow my kids and wife can answer the inevitable question "was he vaccinated?"

They can answer "yes" and the person asking will likely say "I'm sorry for your loss", or if the answer is "no" hear the same condolences while watching the person walk away shaking their head, thinking that the poor sucker (me) didn't even make even an attempt to spare his family this sad outcome.

[Jumper1]

BC, I get that.

Your first statement is the tricky part.
Any study,regardless can* be interpreted even by those in that field of scientific study differently.
It's what a group of peer reviews is critical.

You extrapolated 10% from a study.
In noway do any of the mouth more extensive and peer reviewed Israeli studies show that result,nor many other studies.
Some do though included the one you posted.

At this point break thru cases out number others in some countries, that's very high vax rate.
While csse loads are up, hospitilaztions are down.
Certainly a good thing.

[Faux Pas]

AJ,

Studies can be quirky beasts, and the results apply only to the studied group.  Take, for example, this one:

http://health.mountsinai.org/blog/young-asymptomatic-people-can-get-reinfected-with-covid-19-and-spread-it-more-than-once/

http://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.26.21250535v1.full-text

The study results apply to young marines that went through the program.

A 10% risk of reinfection within a six-week follow-up period is considerable, and no marine died.  However, we can't extrapolate that the same would happen within the average population.  But, with a decent amount of confidence, we can infer that the reinfection rate is at least 10% among those with prior infection and may be higher in the general population along with worse consequences.

That prior infection may provide some protection against reinfection is pretty clear. Still, in the end, it can't or has not been yet quantitatively measured to determine the level of protection acquired based on asymptomatic, mild, moderate, or severe infection levels.  OTOH You know you got the shot with vaccines, its efficacy and that it is easily documented, making prevention protocols for the entire population more straightforward.  It has also been proven that vaccines work, measured against an unvaccinated population that also consists of folks that had prior infection, even unknowingly.

Whether one has had a prior infection or not, my suggestion remains to get vaccinated and maintain basic precautions like masking if you can't maintain social distancing.

The equation for me is simple.  If I die of COVID tomorrow my kids and wife can answer the inevitable question "was he vaccinated?"

They can answer "yes" and the person asking will likely say "I'm sorry for your loss", or if the answer is "no" hear the same condolences while watching the person walk away shaking their head, thinking that the poor sucker (me) didn't even make even an attempt to spare his family this sad outcome.

Well at least your conscience will be clear, eh?

Some points for you to consider and take with you as you line up for your next jab;

1 - The virus and it's variants does not spread asymptomatically.

2 - Natural immunity is robust, complete and durable

3 - Covid-19 is easily treatable at home with early multi-drug treatment

4 - Big Pharma's answer of Remdesivir is highly toxic and killing people in the hospital as are the NIH, CDC treatment protocols

5 - The current experimental vaccines to date are leaky, unsafe for humans and continue to kill and maim

6 - The virus is not severe for the vast majority of healthy people under the age of 60

7 - Prevention of covid is, in the first place the best the best cure. This is achieved by building one's healthy immune system with exercise, good diet and healthy supplements. Not masks, triple masks, social distancing, or immune system toxic experimental jabs as pushed by the Big Pharma narrative.

As for the vaccines, we only have the short term results and they are not good. Long term is likely our next nightmare in waiting.

My conscience is clear also

[GQBlues]

Well at least your conscience will be clear, eh?

Some points for you to consider and take with you as you line up for your next jab;

1 - The virus and it's variants does not spread asymptomatically.

2 - Natural immunity is robust, complete and durable

3 - Covid-19 is easily treatable at home with early multi-drug treatment

4 - Big Pharma's answer of Remdesivir is highly toxic and killing people in the hospital as are the NIH, CDC treatment protocols

5 - The current experimental vaccines to date are leaky, unsafe for humans and continue to kill and maim

6 - The virus is not severe for the vast majority of healthy people under the age of 60

7 - Prevention of covid is, in the first place the best the best cure. This is achieved by building one's healthy immune system with exercise, good diet and healthy supplements. Not masks, triple masks, social distancing, or immune system toxic experimental jabs as pushed by the Big Pharma narrative.

As for the vaccines, we only have the short term results and they are not good. Long term is likely our next nightmare in waiting.

My conscience is clear also

The video I posted by the Houston doctor, flanked by her medical staff and patients, have a lawsuit filed against CDC et al, under FOIA to finally release information she’s been asking for but have not received.

Information and documents of recorded total cases of adverse reaction to vaccine.
Information and documents of actual number of the mythical ‘breakthrough’ cases of hospitalization. etc.

She’s a doctor who was suspended for initiating a treatment program to all her patients, many who were on the threshold of dying and survived. She estimated treating approximately 2,000 patients since the pandemic began. She was suspended for advancing other treatment means against the virus besides only vaccination. She’s not an anti-vaxxer either.

So she’s not someone who Googles information. So I’ll take words from folks like her any Batman day. She attended the 16,000 strong group of doctors and scientists against the mandates, abating early treatment programs, etc that held rally in DC, which was followed by protests of the federal worker vaccine mandates.

http://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2022/01/13/thousands-of-federal-workers-to-march-against-bidens-vaccine-mandate/

[Jumper1]

The equation for me is simple.  If I die of COVID tomorrow my kids and wife can answer the inevitable question "was he vaccinated?"

They can answer "yes" and the person asking will likely say "I'm sorry for your loss", or if the answer is "no" hear the same condolences while watching the person walk away shaking their head, thinking that the poor sucker (me) didn't even make even an attempt to spare his family this sad outcome.

I'd like to address this a bit further although we have all beat this horse 🐎.

For myself, I can make a choice either way with a clear conscious that it was my best choice at that point in time .
Hindsight often proves over time better choices could have  been made, as long as the choices made were true to ourselves and our character I don't regret them, I don't ever live my life in the rear view mirror, nor would my family.
They would clearly say he choose X,or Y. And lived life on his terms. They might have questions regarding choices ,that's natural either way.
Having chosen employment paths throughout my life that were riskier health wise than many,this isn't really a conundrum.

Now, to my children.
I could not have a clear conscious  in either choice *if* they were harmed by either choice.
That is a real concern.


I know personally that while i believe in childhood general.immunizations ,I do not believe in the way we administer those vaccines in very young children in combinations,at very short intervals in relation to their actual risk of the illnesses they are  being immunized agaisnt.

As such all.my children's childhood immunizations were separated in delivery and in time frame as long as possible. I wish more parents where informed they could
do so by their providers.

[fathertime]

3 - Covid-19 is easily treatable at home with early multi-drug treatment


5 - The current experimental vaccines to date are leaky, unsafe for humans and continue to kill and maim

6 - The virus is not severe for the vast majority of healthy people under the age of 60
 

#3.   Easily treatable?  What early multi-drug treatment?  I have my doubts on this one.

#5  Yet the world leaders across the globe continue to get the shots themselves and promote them to their population.    Seems like a very questionable statement of fact.
#6  Not severe to MOST  people, true.  That said, it is severe for some otherwise healthy people under 60.  Seems to be a lot more than past flu's. 

Fathertime! 

[GQBlues]

Natural immunity vs vaccination

http://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-high-cost-of-disparaging-natural-immunity-to-covid-vaccine-mandates-protests-fire-rehire-employment-11643214336

http://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

http://californiahealthline.org/news/article/covid-immunity-through-infection-or-vaccination-are-they-equal/amp/

These fully support our personal experience. Wifey was vaccinated, I am naturally immune via previous infection. When wifey got infected over the holidays, I refused she isolated and allowed me to take care of her. She got well, and I never got re-infected.


California and New York studies have identical results. They also happen to be the most populated two states in the US. CDC had no choice but to accept these results. CDC is complicit to all the prevailing misinformation/disinformation to needlessly fire first responder employees, health care workers, firemen, police, etc..for not submitting to vaccination despite their natural immunities.

Mandates are bullshits! May all the pending lawsuits against these misinformation/disinformation mandates prevail in their respective judgments.

[GQBlues]

Even in Kentucky, where that debunked study that CDC sanctioned and supported, have tried considering a resolution to recognize a positive antibody (previously infected) is equal to vaccination.

http://www.whas11.com/article/news/politics/kentucky-covid-antibody-vaccine-test-alvarado-resolution/417-18d36241-3776-4c21-b9b9-b3f5ad4bbbe9


While this is a good compromise, we now have studies after studies that support the previous other studies that in fact, natural immunity is better than the vaccine.


But as as expected, the resolution died and poor Kentuckians will reap the silly decisions of their politicians. Especially now that new proofs of the veracity of natural immunity over vaccination, that even CDC now admits, is undeniable.

[BC]

I guess one could say that 906,861 Americans so far have died inadvertently attempting to acquire natural immunity.

[GQBlues]

I guess one could say that 906,861 Americans so far have died inadvertently attempting to acquire natural immunity.

You could but you’d be alone. Freedom of speech and all that good stuff.

Weak attempt at deflecting the point though.

[Faux Pas]

I guess one could say that 906,861 Americans so far have died inadvertently attempting to acquire natural immunity.

You could say 906,861 Americans so far have died for following  Tony Fauci's advice

[BC]

No, your logic does not add up.  It's estimated that over a million deaths were averted following his advice to get vaccinated.

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2021/dec/us-covid-19-vaccination-program-one-year-how-many-deaths-and

[Faux Pas]

No, your logic does not add up. Fauci's advice and subsequently strong arming the worlds governments into forcing the experimental death soups into the people will quite likely go down as the worlds biggest crimes against humanity. I, for one look forward to him being brought up on charges and seeing him face those crimes

[fathertime]

No, your logic does not add up. Fauci's advice and subsequently strong arming the worlds governments into forcing the experimental death soups into the people will quite likely go down as the worlds biggest crimes against humanity. I, for one look forward to him being brought up on charges and seeing him face those crimes

You are deluding yourself.  None of this is going to happen.  The 'death soup', that's a new one! 

Fathertime! 

[GQBlues]

Result of the studies I cited above reported the following:

Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.

It isn’t a breakthrough case when it’s pretty prevalent. LMAO! Greater risk of hospitalization to boot! Poor ol’ snowflakes who bought into the ‘vaccine will protect you’, hacking and grasping their one way street to those ventilators. Such stooges! LMAO!

When FOIA documents ever gets released, unredacted, we’ll find out exactly how many really were stooged all they way to their graves.

If you’re an unhealthy snowflake who lived your life cutting the fat of the hog, didn’t watch what you ate, took staying fit for granted, be afraid. Be very afraid. The grim reaper is here awhile and is much closer and looking for you.

[rwd123]

1 - The virus and it's variants does not spread asymptomatically.

2 - Natural immunity is robust, complete and durable

3 - Covid-19 is easily treatable at home with early multi-drug treatment

4 - Big Pharma's answer of Remdesivir is highly toxic and killing people in the hospital as are the NIH, CDC treatment protocols

5 - The current experimental vaccines to date are leaky, unsafe for humans and continue to kill and maim

6 - The virus is not severe for the vast majority of healthy people under the age of 60

7 - Prevention of covid is, in the first place the best the best cure. This is achieved by building one's healthy immune system with exercise, good diet and healthy supplements. Not masks, triple masks, social distancing, or immune system toxic experimental jabs as pushed by the Big Pharma narrative.

Nice summary.

In terms of early treatment it depends on what is available but a mix of monoclonal antibodies, Ivermectin, zinc, Vitamin C and Vitamin D. Vitamin C intravenously as there is a limit you can take orally (due to diarrhea). Countries such as Japan, Mexico and (parts of) India use Ivermectin for early treatment.

Asides from cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias, what throws off people understanding how dangerous these jabs are is because the batches of 'therapeutics' appears to be highly variable. They're simply not safe by any objective measure used before 2020.

The death rate over the past year for healthy people under the age of 60 has increased dramatically catching the eye of insurers and undertakers alike.

Unless you are very frail, very sick or very fat you probably have little to worry about (if you receive appropriate early treatment), though there are no guarantees in life. The worst thing possible is to end up in a hospital because hospitals are routinely killing people through malpractice.

[fathertime]

Well shouldn't be a surprise.  Trump got 'the death jab'....his supporters advocate drinking urine.   

Anti-vaxxer tells supporters the new COVID antidote is in 'urine therapy'

As the pandemic has evolved and vaccinations have become politicized, the door has opened for some questionable alternatives to treat COVID-19.

Urine therapy – where advocates encourage people to drink their own urine to tap into its redemptive properties – is among the latest, and a recent video calling the therapy the next "COVID antidote" was viewed over 366,000 times.

"I've seen a rise in anti-vaxxers and conspiracists supporting urine, Viagra and other odd alternatives to the vaccine," said Dr. Amanda Torres, a physician at Winchester Hospital in Boston. "It's dangerous."...

  http://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/anti-vaxxer-tells-supporters-covid-195908571.html

Fathertime! 

[BC]

It isn’t a breakthrough case when it’s pretty prevalent. LMAO! Greater risk of hospitalization to boot! Poor ol’ snowflakes who bought into the ‘vaccine will protect you’, hacking and grasping their one way street to those ventilators. Such stooges! LMAO!

You failed to comprehend the most important part GQ.  We all know the Delta variant was more infective and caused more deaths and hospitalizations vs the previous strain.  This led to boosters being given to bridge the difference.  The study you refer to only shows that vaccines are less effective against the Delta variant.  It does not say that vaccines are not effective.  Clearly, those that were infected may have stronger protection, but even that is not perfect as the conclusions clearly state that someone with prior infection, if given one dose of vaccine is even more protected.  Just because someone had a prior infection doesn't mean they are immune. 

Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021.

Conclusions This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.

http://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full-text

[GQBlues]

You failed to comprehend the most important part GQ.  We all know the Delta variant was more infective and caused more deaths and hospitalizations vs the previous strain.  This led to boosters being given to bridge the difference.

Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021.

Conclusions This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.

http://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full-text

LMAO! This isn’t difficult BC. I realize the CDC sold you a pitch you bought into lock, stock and barrel. The roll out advertised itself a 97% efficacy. Then when discussions about natural immunity was raised, CDC made silly declaration that the vaccine offered far more protection. You bought into that so easily too, as you debated what you pretended to know about natural immunity, arguing with me about it, too at the time. I’m sure you remember that.

There was no talk of boosters at the time. I have no doubt, booster was concocted because this vaccine did in fact lack enough testing, as many in the medical community claimed, and declaring the need for booster is nothing but a CYA attempt.

So now you make qualifications / disclaimer along the way, and booster yourself till the cows come home, bottom line is,  this is exactly what I said about you. Like with everything else, you move the goal post at your leisure, then claim someone else misunderstood.

When all you can do is Google, and lose the ability to think for yourself and is met with information showing you to be wrong, then you move the goal post again. LMAO. You do this on every subject.

Remember how you argued before how lockdowns were the best way to stop the pandemic too? So proud Italy ‘complied’ under a policed state. Mask even when there’s OVER 99.9% viral removal. LMAO.

What a croc! You can’t hide behind multiple boosters now, you should’ve taken care of yourself well before. You seem so freaked out about this virus knowing it only kills the old, the frail and compromised.

Best you find out when you can get boostered again instead of trying to convince us you know what you really don’t.

[BC]

LMAO! This isn’t difficult BC. I realize the CDC sold you a pitch you bought into lock, stock and barrel. The roll out advertised itself a 97% efficacy. Then when discussions about natural immunity was raised, CDC made silly declaration that the vaccine offered far more protection. You bought into that so easily too, as you debated what you pretended to know about natural immunity, arguing with me about it, too at the time. I’m sure you remember that.

The levels of protection against the origin strain was as advertised.

There was no talk of boosters at the time. I have no doubt, booster was concocted because this vaccine did in fact lack enough testing, as many in the medical community claimed, and declaring the need for booster is nothing but a CYA attempt.

Again, additional variants were not known at the time.

So now you make qualifications / disclaimer along the way, and booster yourself till the cows come home, bottom line is,  this is exactly what I said about you. Like with everything else, you move the goal post at your leisure, then claim someone else misunderstood.

Not making any qualifications/disclaimers and no moving goalposts.  There is, however, increasing knowledge available regarding new strains and how to counteract to maintain efficacy.  It's really simple.  No football team goes into the game knowing every play they will make.  They adjust along the way to fit any new factors the other team throws in.

When all you can do is Google, and lose the ability to think for yourself and is met with information showing you to be wrong, then you move the goal post again. LMAO. You do this on every subject.

Why are you stuck on google?  It is not the only search engine I use.  I follow up sources when I google.  What do you use? Do you do the follow up work?  Guess not.

Remember how you argued before how lockdowns were the best way to stop the pandemic too? So proud Italy ‘complied’ under a policed state. Mask even when there’s OVER 99.9% viral removal. LMAO.

Again you are stuck with your dummies that do not breathe, talk, eat, cough and sneeze.  Each passenger in an airplane is not provided their own sole source of 99% breathable air. It is pumped in clean, and goes out dirty.  What happens inside that tube with live passengers cannot be determined. The minimal measures being enforced are prudent.

What a croc! You can’t hide behind multiple boosters now, you should’ve taken care of yourself well before. You seem so freaked out about this virus knowing it only kills the old, the frail and compromised.

I'm not freaked at all.  Have you noticed I almost always only respond to posts of others in this thread?  You are among those attempting to provoke reaction, or somehow justify your position.

Best you find out when you can get boostered again instead of trying to convince us you know what you really don’t.

I don't have to find out.  Folks here will let me know if another booster is recommended.  If one is recommended, I'll check the studies, consider adverse effects if any and decide whether or not to boost.  My experience thus far has been positive with no negative effects whatsoever.  Ditto for others in my family.  I work, go out, fly, dine, travel, attend business meetings, have guests over, go visit others without issue or fear.  Life is quite normal, free and I just take a few prudent precautions.

It seems you are more affected by this bug than I am. You fear vaccination, you fear masks, you fear your liberty has somehow been taken away.

[BC]

If you’re an unhealthy snowflake who lived your life cutting the fat of the hog, didn’t watch what you ate, took staying fit for granted, be afraid. Be very afraid. The grim reaper is here awhile and is much closer and looking for you.

Lifestyle choices and other unavoidable health conditions exist among us all.  How do you reconcile your statement with:

A North Carolina man who said a hospital refused to carry out a kidney transplant because he's unvaccinated against COVID-19 is willing to "die free" rather than comply with the vaccine requirement.

"I was born free. I will die free. I’m not changing my mind," Chad Carswell told WSOC. "I’ve had conversations with my family and everybody that’s close to me. They know where I stand, and it’ll not be a situation that occurs that I will choose to change my mind on this topic."

Here we have a person (who is not alone) who for whatever reason feels that one jab more than the hundreds he already gets with even more side effects, is not worth living for.  Somehow, I feel his definition of freedom is very strange indeed.

[GQBlues]

The levels of protection against the origin strain was as advertised.

Again, additional variants were not known at the time.

Not making any qualifications/disclaimers and no moving goalposts.  There is, however, increasing knowledge available regarding new strains and how to counteract to maintain efficacy.  It's really simple.  No football team goes into the game knowing every play they will make.  They adjust along the way to fit any new factors the other team throws in.

Why are you stuck on google?  It is not the only search engine I use.  I follow up sources when I google.  What do you use? Do you do the follow up work?  Guess not.

Again you are stuck with your dummies that do not breathe, talk, eat, cough and sneeze.  Each passenger in an airplane is not provided their own sole source of 99% breathable air. It is pumped in clean, and goes out dirty.  What happens inside that tube with live passengers cannot be determined. The minimal measures being enforced are prudent.

I'm not freaked at all.  Have you noticed I almost always only respond to posts of others in this thread?  You are among those attempting to provoke reaction, or somehow justify your position.

I don't have to find out.  Folks here will let me know if another booster is recommended.  If one is recommended, I'll check the studies, consider adverse effects if any and decide whether or not to boost.  My experience thus far has been positive with no negative effects whatsoever.  Ditto for others in my family.  I work, go out, fly, dine, travel, attend business meetings, have guests over, go visit others without issue or fear.  Life is quite normal, free and I just take a few prudent precautions.

It seems you are more affected by this bug than I am. You fear vaccination, you fear masks, you fear your liberty has somehow been taken away.

See what I mean?

[2tallbill]

See what I mean?

BC Clearly does not.