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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #325 on: February 25, 2022, 09:09:46 AM »
No, it doesn't. They are lying to you


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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #326 on: February 25, 2022, 09:16:19 AM »
Reminds me . . .
When I was a univ student, an elderly prof told me of stories back in the 1950s-60 when he was starting out.

There was a lot of talk that university professors had banded together as  part of a communist conspiracy.

He said:  He!! . . . we couldn't even agree where to have lunch.

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Today however, there is a huge tilt to the left in most university departments . . . except for Business Administration and Engineering . . . although there is no discernable plan or conspiracy as most are pretty much hard to control.


ML, there is a simple explanation to the "huge tilt to the left" in most departments. First, it is not a tilt to the left. It is called INFORMATION. The more you know the less you stick with misinformation. This scares a lot of people who need to keep their followers like mushrooms. So what are the scary terms this country has used for the last 80+ years? Socialism, Communism, LEFTIST. Et Voila, boogeyman.
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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #327 on: February 25, 2022, 09:19:33 AM »
LMAO! If they are 'wrong', but insist to be 'right - even MANDATE it as right - isn't that that the same as 'lying', maybe even worst than lying? Heck, Fauci outright lied to all of us from the word 'go', and he literally authored most if not all mandates we were all forced to adhere to.

Let me throw caution to your wind, FT. America's academia have taken a course on outright deception. They've even gone as far as rewriting history to our young - worst, any other narrative or thoughts other than their own doesn't deserve to be heard and must immediately be vanquished.

It's no small surprised fake news is prevalent in our society today. And why the Steele dossier and the whole Russiagate snared so many folks ( those amongst us who insist to always know it all), so very easily and with little effort.


I hate to disappoint you however, there's not ONE scientist (real one) that has claimed they are right. Each one of them will tell you that they will offer the best assessment until new evidence is provided. The beauty about science is that it keeps evolving.
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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #328 on: February 25, 2022, 09:30:43 AM »

I hate to disappoint you however, there's not ONE scientist (real one) that has claimed they are right. Each one of them will tell you that they will offer the best assessment until new evidence is provided. The beauty about science is that it keeps evolving.


No, I'm not disappointed about the evolution of science.

What I am disappointed is putting someone in charge who had become known as a pathological liar, and STILL allowed to mandate whatever the idiot dictates. It isn't 'science' when the very same idiot conspired to publicly demean, even censored and cancel, other scientific studies void of challenges for a constructive debate.

General consensus is NOT 'science'.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2022, 09:32:56 AM by GQBlues »
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #329 on: February 25, 2022, 09:33:45 AM »

ML, there is a simple explanation to the "huge tilt to the left" in most departments. First, it is not a tilt to the left. It is called INFORMATION. The more you know the less you stick with misinformation. This scares a lot of people who need to keep their followers like mushrooms. So what are the scary terms this country has used for the last 80+ years? Socialism, Communism, LEFTIST. Et Voila, boogeyman.


And yet it is in fact the 'left' that created 'Russiahoax'.
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #330 on: February 25, 2022, 10:36:39 AM »

No, I'm not disappointed about the evolution of science.

What I am disappointed is putting someone in charge who had become known as a pathological liar, and STILL allowed to mandate whatever the idiot dictates. It isn't 'science' when the very same idiot conspired to publicly demean, even censored and cancel, other scientific studies void of challenges for a constructive debate.

General consensus is NOT 'science'.


But, but, but,... Trump lost the election.
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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #331 on: February 25, 2022, 11:03:28 AM »

But, but, but,... Trump lost the election.


...and this had anything to do with the discussion?
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #332 on: February 25, 2022, 11:29:38 AM »
It would appear you are gaslighted beyond any hope of redemption. I will appeal one more time to your common sense that is, if it still exists. This will be my last attempt.

The same people who are trying and succeeding (to a degree) to depopulate the world, the UN, WEF and their various health organizations are requiring everyone wear a mask and follow their established protocols for a virus that has a .02% chance of killing you. These are the same people who provided the virus and, also are providing you the triple jab to supposedly protect you from the virus. This btw is a virus that your own body if allowed, will protect you from without a jab.

Science you say? Let's look at the science, shall we?

The common cold and flu has been with us for well over 100 years. They are a corona virus. Do you recall masks or triple jabs to flatten the curve at anytime in those 100 years?

HIV has been with us for 40 years and yet another corona virus. Never were we asked to mask up and flatten that curve either, wonder why? Safe sex was promoted though.

Since then we've had Ebola and numerous other corona viruses that are deathly and killing people and no masks, flattening the curve or "experimental jabs" for any of these corona viruses.

Covid 19 hit's the scene, we lockdown, social distance, wear masks to flatten the curve except, the curve doesn't flatten. The worlds governments throw all of there monetary resources and voil'a within in a week we have 4 experimental jabs getting injected into the worlds population.

Yet none of this raises your suspicions? Do you ever question where these viruses come from or are you still of the opinion they jumped from a bat to a human in the Wuhan wet market?


You're the one who has been gaslighted beyond common sense.


Unlike the flu and colds, COVID is not a natural virus.  It is a natural virus that was genetically modified.  The 2% rate of death is precisely because of all the precautions taken.


If you follow the science, you would know why vaccines were developed so quickly.


There are far more efficient ways to depopulate the world than introducing a virus then taking steps to stop it.  Why not let it run rampant?  Why not unleash something like the Marburg virus or ebola, which have far, far higher rates of death?
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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #333 on: February 25, 2022, 12:04:10 PM »

You're the one who has been gaslighted beyond common sense.


Unlike the flu and colds, COVID is not a natural virus.  It is a natural virus that was genetically modified.  The 2% rate of death is precisely because of all the precautions taken.


If you follow the science, you would know why vaccines were developed so quickly.


There are far more efficient ways to depopulate the world than introducing a virus then taking steps to stop it.  Why not let it run rampant?  Why not unleash something like the Marburg virus or ebola, which have far, far higher rates of death?


COVID-19 is NOT a virus.
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #334 on: February 25, 2022, 12:10:36 PM »

COVID-19 is NOT a virus.




DAMN!!!!!

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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #335 on: February 25, 2022, 12:12:25 PM »
Do tell. Take your time.


Ironic considering the title of this thread, and certain members displaying their attempts as authorities to the subject at hand.
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #336 on: February 25, 2022, 12:19:14 PM »
Do tell. Take your time.


Ironic considering the title of this thread, and certain members displaying their attempts as authorities to the subject at hand.


I'd refer you to some virologists, microbiologist but that would be a waste of time. You see, their lifetime careers are nothing compare to your Qanon knowledge.


I actually thought different of you.
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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #337 on: February 25, 2022, 12:23:20 PM »

I'd refer you to some virologists, microbiologist but that would be a waste of time. You see, their lifetime careers are nothing compare to your Qanon knowledge.

I actually thought different of you.


LMAO! You had NO IDEA that COVID-19 is NOT a virus. Sars-CoV2 is THE virus, and COVID-19 is the disease. Now if its too much for you to admit your silly ignorance on the subject, that's OK with me too.


Just glad to be of help. (funny the bold large font though - bridge for sale and all :::chuckle:::: virologists, egg..face...LMAO)
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #338 on: February 25, 2022, 12:31:38 PM »
Damn, what a child. ::) :rolleyes:
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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #339 on: February 25, 2022, 12:33:23 PM »
Damn, what a child. ::) :rolleyes:


Glad to help a bruddah out, man! Going forward, now you know what COVID-19 is.
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2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #340 on: February 25, 2022, 12:38:56 PM »
I never claimed expertise on COVID.  Calling it a virus is shorthand.
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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #341 on: February 25, 2022, 12:42:09 PM »
I never claimed expertise on COVID.  Calling it a virus is shorthand.


Considering the title of the thread, just thought to coin that in.


Didn't expect the over-zealous erroneous reaction though. Ironic.


 >:D
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2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #342 on: February 25, 2022, 12:54:14 PM »
I never claimed expertise on COVID.  Calling it a virus is shorthand.


Boe, I learned when my kids were babies and needing attention they would cry until they were picked up. Eventually, I learned from that so let them cry, of course making sure they were okay, until they got tired and stopped. That was it.
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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #343 on: February 25, 2022, 01:08:31 PM »

Boe, I learned when my kids were babies and needing attention they would cry until they were picked up. Eventually, I learned from that so let them cry, of course making sure they were okay, until they got tired and stopped. That was it.


Irony #2: From my vantage point, as would for any reader who can follow our latest exchanges, it is rather YOU who had been reacting like a child, no?


Just say 'my bad', Muzh. Why make this even worse than it is?
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #344 on: February 25, 2022, 01:23:07 PM »
I dont play a virologist in life or on TV, :(
But this genetically altered virus,
Hasnt appeared to have done a damn thing different than  every other virus does as far as mutation within its strain.

Polio mutates often as well ,mulitple times quarterly ,and has for decades and decades.

 And hey,
"The 2% mortality rate is precisely from all the precautions taken?"

Interesting perspective.

There are scientific studies that dispute that,unless a shift in tenths of percent in the big picture of a world pandemic would be earth shattering.
7 billion of us,many of which are not vaccinated and live in mich more densely populated areas with  and far less opportunities to self isolate, with work etc etc

There are tons of studies on past viral pathogens that show this curve of downward  mortality percentage to be typical, with all the various reasons why that is almost always the case, and this  virus has followed those old school type projections to a T ,despite media hysteria otherwise.
And it will continue on that curve like almost every other viral threat has.

I'm not down playing the  mortality, or suffering of individuals.

I'm pointing out the  initial observations of any viral pathogens mortality rate , including this one ,decline from the initial percent naturally due to things like initial studies cant take into account the number of exposed whom were asymptomatic.
We are two years into this and that number is still an unknown .

After 2 years, of a fairly contagious virus ,perhaps we should be looking into the percent of unexposed?
If you have western countries ranging from 50 to 80% innoculated, and a given percent already  exposed ,what are we left protecting?

Let's discuss the futility of it all if you look at wildlife and domestic animals, the millions of minks they found with it which mutated and past back to the workers...

That genetically altered (arnt they all? ) genie was never going to be put back in the lab bottle (or  origin host organism )

But somehow on this grand scale
including  animals,  our overlords' fearless mandates reduced the  actual world wide  human impact by umm ,yeah
Well let's just see..get back to.me...in ten years :)



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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #345 on: February 25, 2022, 02:03:07 PM »

Unlike the flu and colds, COVID is not a natural virus.  It is a natural virus that was genetically modified.  The 2% rate of death is precisely because of all the precautions taken.

So, you have accepted the fact that it isn't a natural virus and jumped from a bat in a cave to a human or the same result in the Wuhan wet market? There are numerous threads on this forum where you made that declaration. We can agree that it was manipulated and engineered in a lab as a fast spreading virus to infect as many as possible. Who, pray tell would manipulate such a virus to do that? I will offer to you, that it is the same people who have offered you the cure, profited greatly, took from most people their basic fundamental rights while killing the worlds economy. Who are those people? Who did it and why?

The 2% death rate was not affected by the protocols and measures shoved down our collective throats. Those measures flew directly into the face of the science we knew to be true.

One of those measures are wearing medical masks. These masks are designed for temporary use in medical theatre, for splatter. Not for the filtering of microscopic aerosols in the air in which we breathe. Masks do not filter breathable air. They offer zero protection from microscopic aerosols. If you want protection breathe pure oxygen in a pressurized suit with a respirator. The masks do not provide that function. THAT is science we know, don't we? Masks are nothing more than a symbol of compliance. They offer no protection from air

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If you follow the science, you would know why vaccines were developed so quickly.
Oh please, do explain? Again, is this Fauci science or science we knew to be true prior to covid19? Just where and how did those vaccines get developed so quickly?

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There are far more efficient ways to depopulate the world than introducing a virus then taking steps to stop it.  Why not let it run rampant?  Why not unleash something like the Marburg virus or ebola, which have far, far higher rates of death?

Your guess is as good as mine. I would suspect there is no profit from something as terminal as ebola. We'd be dead before they could get us jabbed and they might catch it themselves. We have yet to find out what the what the death toll of the jabs are going to be. The short term certainly looks bad, the long term isn't so good either. Know who it is that you are dealing with

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Re: Vaccine Misinformation
« Reply #346 on: February 25, 2022, 02:19:46 PM »

But, but, but,... Trump lost the election.

What is on Hunter's laptop anyway? You know, beside the Joe supplied crackpipe and porn?

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« Reply #347 on: February 25, 2022, 06:39:06 PM »
What is on Hunter's laptop anyway? You know, beside the Joe supplied crackpipe and porn?

Umm, I'll take Ukrainian blood for $xxx, Alex

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« Reply #348 on: February 25, 2022, 06:51:47 PM »
Umm, I'll take Ukrainian blood for $xxx, Alex

 :ROFL:


Speaking of which, what happened to Weiner's laptop and covid19 since Putin's invasion. Good answer's for next week's show

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« Reply #349 on: February 25, 2022, 08:17:05 PM »
So, you have accepted the fact that it isn't a natural virus and jumped from a bat in a cave to a human or the same result in the Wuhan wet market? There are numerous threads on this forum where you made that declaration. We can agree that it was manipulated and engineered in a lab as a fast spreading virus to infect as many as possible. Who, pray tell would manipulate such a virus to do that? I will offer to you, that it is the same people who have offered you the cure, profited greatly, took from most people their basic fundamental rights while killing the worlds economy. Who are those people? Who did it and why?

The 2% death rate was not affected by the protocols and measures shoved down our collective throats. Those measures flew directly into the face of the science we knew to be true.

One of those measures are wearing medical masks. These masks are designed for temporary use in medical theatre, for splatter. Not for the filtering of microscopic aerosols in the air in which we breathe. Masks do not filter breathable air. They offer zero protection from microscopic aerosols. If you want protection breathe pure oxygen in a pressurized suit with a respirator. The masks do not provide that function. THAT is science we know, don't we? Masks are nothing more than a symbol of compliance. They offer no protection from air
Oh please, do explain? Again, is this Fauci science or science we knew to be true prior to covid19? Just where and how did those vaccines get developed so quickly?

Your guess is as good as mine. I would suspect there is no profit from something as terminal as ebola. We'd be dead before they could get us jabbed and they might catch it themselves. We have yet to find out what the what the death toll of the jabs are going to be. The short term certainly looks bad, the long term isn't so good either. Know who it is that you are dealing with


No, I never claimed the virus came from a wet market.  I never believed that.  I always thought it came from a lab.  However, I didn't believe it had been tinkered with.  I thought it was a natural virus that had "escaped".  You cannot fine ONE post where I claimed the virus came from a wet market.  That always seemed rather fanciful to me.


If the same people who manufactured the virus came up with the cure, then it seems to me this isn't done, as you claim, to control the world/curtail our freedoms.  It was just out of profit/greed.


Masks are designed to control for illness as well.  N95 masks, for example, are designed specifically for this purpose.
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