Type of Work I can do that will satisfy a FSW enough.

[Trenchcoat]

In USA, a good private health insurance plan costs $12,000 - 15,000 per year each.

Ethnic Ukrainian professors here in my town are paying this for their parents who are here during the war.

Fortunately they have good paying double incomes.

That a lot of money spend each year ML, I'm glad it's all on the NHS in the UK. I think if I was in the US I might put that money aside Inna high interest account or something similar instead and just pay our fir for any op if it arose. Depends on age I guess though.

[Trenchcoat]

so what's the plan in kitchenev?
apartment vrs hotel?
will you rent a car or are ya left/right side driving impaired, so taxis (don't take public street transport)

do you have "contacts" or are you "cold calling"?

are ya lookin for a particular "type" of woman?
I'd kinda divide the moldovan girls betweem city/village dwellers
and educated white collar worker, vrs uneducated blue collar ones
similar to ukraine

in fact moldova is VERY similar to the poorer pre-war regions of ukraine, except for signs in a different language which you'll find more readble than cyrillic

did you learn any Moldovan or just englisski and maybe choot-choot ruskie?
if you're cold callin, check out the poor apartment blocks, should be lotsa ukrainian refugees and poorer moldovan girls
for example, in Odesa, it's a district called Moldavanka and ya wanna take the devs to arcadia
don't know the names in kishinev

if this is an educated woman, ya better acquaint your fine self, with the local cultural attractions, if you know her musical tastes, look for concerts, etc

rule #1, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER do or say anything negative, even if provoked
always smile
if you commit "some transgression" say you're sorry, with sad puppy dog eyes
and blame it on your misfortune of being british, and the fact that you're ALMOST a virgin and so are therefor just not equipped with much knowledge of dating (and don't forget all THE HARD WORK keepin ya busy on your real estate empire overwhelming your social life)

This "brutal honesty"   will win ya big points over there! cuz lying or not giving a damn is how the local men behave

at first, you should pull out your picture book, show 'em the amazing life of Trench in the middle of the midlands, and for Aryan Jesus's sake do I gotta tell ya how to stage the photos
fer your mom, have a snap of her in some ole royal home turned over to a public Trust
tourist trap, just say my mom never leaves home, here's picture of her

anyway, Israelis callin me today, peckerwoods want me to come back to work on a "Ukrainian project"
waiting on their call, thinkin about it
cuz ukrainians ain't comin up with diddly doh-dah for me to do, unless I wanna work under somebody else, which I don't
Israel = carte blanche


PS
back in the day, I met a TON of Moldovan girls (my wife is half Moldovan)
a very common type is one that guys MOSTLY overlook, cuz they're dumb phuques
they're kinda plain lookin, skinny, dark eyes/hair, flat chested
BUT...
very educated, I met doctors, concert piano players
and these wimmin were smart as hell
AND (Sweet Arayn Jeusus) emotional empaths

but, because they don't "present" very well optically, get passed over, like somebody else I know
i'm guessin you never had sex with an emotional empath
given a choice between a cold, bithchy megan fox, and a war cuddly empath, which choice would give you the happiest life
Megan Fox!  right? nobody's that big of an idiot!!!

do ya understand what i'm tryin to tell ya here?

good luck Trench
persistence is omnipotence
fail until you succeed
and you'll never fail again

Well I'm not much one for classical concerts, the performing arts scene so may not be my type of girl.

I know girls who are pretty can leave you feeling not great as sometimes their attitudes are bad.

I kind of have an idea of the type of girl for me but would have to see at the time. I'm pretty sure flat chested ugly girls aren't my bag, lol

I agree, avoiding negatives and arguement I'd the way to go with FSW, it's just a slippery slope downhill all the way otherwise with most of them just not worth screwing up relationships over.

I think you have a good take on how to work Krim, if society could ever be successfully arranged where people could easily self employ and gain the rightful rewards for their work then that might possibly be the best way to be. I'm guessing Israel is maybe more in tune with independent self employed working practices.

Girls I am mainly going to bring up of the usual, Fdate, dating apps, etc. I wouldn't discount anything but at the outset I just want to meet girls and see if we click ir not

I tried to learn a few words of Romanian a few months ago, it was ok but too much to learn with Russian as well so I decided best to just focus on Russian.

[krimster2]

The Rise of Squire Trench
The Sparsely Illustrated Not London News

the midlands...
work houses next to the dark satanic mills... and old, decaying canal locks

and then there's TrenchCo's new power loom
designed by world renown British Historian John-Thomas Moore-Tit Trench II, who specializes in documenting the history, architecture and the revolutionary development of new mechanical Technology in the Midlands Textile industry, in the 19th century.
The TrenchCo Power Loom combines old world craftsmanship with the finest of traditional materials and is made completely by hand

this be a Rochdale company token, cuz you weren't paid in real money, instead ya got company tokens like these

here be a video of somebody's loom, do something like this but in stained white oak
majority of folks you meet in this business will be women, with a wide age distribution N(number of chicks) divided by selected age distribution = Potential Friend with benefits
this number would be like 10 to 100X what it is for you today, depending on sales volume, number of trade shows, etc
if you couldn't get laid in this scenario, then I'd begin to question as to whether you have a functional willy or not (maybe you're shy, due to some unfortunate childhood urinal incident)




gonna call 'ya "Big Booty Trench" from now on
I prefer a more "holeistic view" of femminine charms
yes, I really do...

[krimster2]

Trench, there's a difference between understanding what a woman's value to you could be vrs  porn

the problem fer all you "self-abusers" is that in order to get aroused, you respond to a "certain kind of stimuli"  amIright?

and so you think that THIS is necessary in real life...
no it ain't!!!!

let's make a little semi-quantative value comparison

Attribute                                                             Number of Points
1. big boobs
2. nice ass
3. toned body
4. fully shaved "VJJ", good appearance
5. pretty face

1. doesn't argue
2. great cook/housekeeper
3. makes you money
4. will do without hesitation the most perverted thing you ask, and then after awhile will do it without you asking!

when you do it with the lights out, how do ya know IT'S NOT Megan Fox?
see what I mean!

now of course, you do both IF YOU CAN
the undertaker is gonna have a difficult time prying the smile off my face

[Trenchcoat]

Trench, there's a difference between understanding what a woman's value to you could be vrs  porn

the problem fer all you "self-abusers" is that in order to get aroused, you respond to a "certain kind of stimuli"  amIright?

and so you think that THIS is necessary in real life...
no it ain't!!!!

let's make a little semi-quantative value comparison

Attribute                                                             Number of Points
1. big boobs
2. nice ass
3. toned body
4. fully shaved "VJJ", good appearance
5. pretty face

1. doesn't argue
2. great cook/housekeeper
3. makes you money
4. will do without hesitation the most perverted thing you ask, and then after awhile will do it without you asking!

when you do it with the lights out, how do ya know IT'S NOT Megan Fox?
see what I mean!

Mine would probably go more like this:

Attribute                                                             Number of Points
1. pretty face
1. nice looking boobs
2. nice ass
3. toned body
4. "VJJ", good appearance

I'm not so keen on 'the Barbie' as a VJ, as I more prefer to see where to aim it for more clearly

1. doesn't argue
2. will do without hesitation the most perverted thing you ask, and then after awhile will do it without you asking!
3. great cook/housekeeper
4. makes you money

[Steven1971]

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/may/02/uk-house-prices-rise-nationwide

[Shadow]

Trenchcoat I hope your future ex does not stumble on the writings here. A divorce judge would consider is evidence of an abusive relationship whee you willfully put the woman in a dependent position, granting het full citizenship and all welfare on your dime.
That is if she is canny enough as a standard woman would simply run off at the idea of having to get pregnant to get to an uncertain future.

[krimster2]

I'm guessin that having "black face" combined with wearing a perfectly tailored NAZI SS uniform, and calling myself a "Schwartz Kommando" while holding two naked white women in chains, will do some amount of damage to my reputation, but what the hell, it was worth it

Trench,
 you're TOO focused on your pseudo-juvenile porn fetishes
women with BIG TITS, really....

you're not lookin for a wife or girlfriend
you're lookin for a centerfold

stop thinkin like a dumb phuque
cuz you've somehow confused having a relationship, with one of your porn sites www.biguns.uk or thereabouts

Trench, you really do need to think about changing your life
OTOH, AI created porn is gonna be awesome!!!

[Trenchcoat]

Trenchcoat I hope your future ex does not stumble on the writings here. A divorce judge would consider is evidence of an abusive relationship whee you willfully put the woman in a dependent position, granting het full citizenship and all welfare on your dime.
That is if she is canny enough as a standard woman would simply run off at the idea of having to get pregnant to get to an uncertain future.

Yeah it's definitely an interesting one, the only one I heard who had that was some guy on her where they were both into watching films and I think possibly computer games. He was playing them with her over the internet while he was in the US and she was in Ukraine. I believe though he met her on a FSU international dating site first though not through game playing etc. She looked nice enough and their unprotected sex just led to her being pregnant apparently.

I think it's something where it's probably easiest to get into that situation then directly being it up as like you say most would run at that and others you might wonder why they are agreeable. Definitely though I think both getting tested for STD's is a good idea before unprotected sex though, guessing there is some pharmacy or something out in the FSU where they do that stuff.

The child benefit stuff zi never thought of that aspect lol. Guess it would turn it's on its head a bit. Though probably the court would likely just hit me with child maintenance payments and I would lose the child benefit. If I didn't have money coming in who knows then, guess they would go after any assets and/or give child benefit to her anyway possibly.

[Trenchcoat]

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/may/02/uk-house-prices-rise-nationwide

Thanks for the link Steven, that's interesting info. Sometimes the market has a little wobble goes up a bit more before falling. Possibly though maybe the property market will be ok. While I think doing my business idea is worth trying out just to see I'm still kind of keen on property. Not so much the UK but a couple of places abroad for various reasons, one of them Corfu. I'm not looking for a big property empire but a mini one I think could set me up well then in theory I wouldn't have to worry about money anymore.

The girl thing I'm still going to do but will just see where it goes if anywhere rather than getting too hung up on it all, the ins & outs. At the moment don't know how I would sort the UK thing so will have to think further on that one.

[Trenchcoat]

let's make a little semi-quantative value comparison

Attribute                                                             Number of Points
1. big boobs
2. nice ass
3. toned body
4. fully shaved "VJJ", good appearance
5. pretty face

1. doesn't argue
2. great cook/housekeeper
3. makes you money
4. will do without hesitation the most perverted thing you ask, and then after awhile will do it without you asking!

Just imagine if you put, "2. nice ass" as number 1 and told the girl that's why you're dating her!

[krimster2]

I was once blind like you Trench
but in my defense, I was quite young at the time

once my blindness was lifted
I could see all the truths that I was unable to see before

how can a blind man see beauty Trench?
you're chasing a figment of your imagination
and not the reality all around you that you are blind to

[Trenchcoat]

I was once blind like you Trench
but in my defense, I was quite young at the time

once my blindness was lifted
I could see all the truths that I was unable to see before

how can a blind man see beauty Trench?
you're chasing a figment of your imagination
and not the reality all around you that you are blind to

You mean with the type of woman?

I know to be honest chasing pretty girls is a tough game and can have great pitfalls. Even if you get one they can often play around with other guys, I've seen it, heard it though not had it done to myself. I've been suckered in a lot in the past to a pretty girl's face but I guess that's just being a guy.

To be honest it could be any girl who doesn't feature on that list. If a girl comes up that you have chemistry with and get on well with each other personality wise then that is probably all you really need.

Life can be full of pitfalls and I guess so with women also, chose the wrong one and I could end up in a bad place within a short space of time. Countless old threads on here of guys that have ended in such bad places after their relationships go south though of course same for guys that go for western women. Yet staying the same for me looks like I could end up in an equally bad place, alone, lonely and single. So I guess I'll just have to press on and try and make a go of it.

[krimster2]

"To be honest it could be any girl who doesn't feature on that list. If a girl comes up that you have chemistry with and get on well with each other personality wise then that is probably all you really need. "

FINALLY!!!
so...
what ideas can you derive from this?

Problemya Edin
how do ya increase Frequncy of meeting girls F(mg) = ????

do ya see the fundamental problem with 'yo mama's village?
you ALREADY met all the girls there
and they ALREADY met you
and no chemical reactions occured
ergo, you're just wastin your time there
why gamble your future on a couple 'o weeks trip to hunt ducks
when instead you could move next to the duck pond and hunt 24/7 for as long as you want, and get as many ducks as you want

think how much mental energy you free-up when you no longer have to think about pooty-tang, cuz you get MORE then enough that just comes to you with almost no effort
that's what it was like for me in Russia/Ukraine dawg
Trench, you are making very little progress, can't you speed things up?

[Trenchcoat]

"To be honest it could be any girl who doesn't feature on that list. If a girl comes up that you have chemistry with and get on well with each other personality wise then that is probably all you really need. "

FINALLY!!!
so...
what ideas can you derive from this?

Problemya Edin
how do ya increase Frequncy of meeting girls F(mg) = ????

do ya see the fundamental problem with 'yo mama's village?
you ALREADY met all the girls there
and they ALREADY met you
and no chemical reactions occured
ergo, you're just wastin your time there
why gamble your future on a couple 'o weeks trip to hunt ducks
when instead you could move next to the duck pond and hunt 24/7 for as long as you want, and get as many ducks as you want

think how much mental energy you free-up when you no longer have to think about pooty-tang, cuz you get MORE then enough that just comes to you with almost no effort
that's what it was like for me in Russia/Ukraine dawg
Trench, you are making very little progress, can't you speed things up?

Well at least I got this one right Not bad for a bit of a stab in the dark lol.

Yeah I kind of get it the pretty boy & girl crowd many people wish they were, and it seems pretty exciting, but potentially a lot of heartache as well along with a lot of screwing around among them as too few can be trusted to keep loyal when their options are so plentiful.

Well, I don't really get around yo mama's village that much, often too much to do so drive right through. Too be honest a lit are either real old girls (retired) or school girls lol. So not the best place to be. The nearby town a few miles down the road is good enough I guess. Varies as it can be quite competitive even for everyday looking girls, sometimes even those girls that aren't all that great looks wise. I don't mind if a girl isn't one of those real pretty girls just so long as there is some natural chemistry there.

There is a girl who works in a Supermarket who I get a bit of a look off, nice enough looking (not real pretty girl). I guess I'd I get the chance to chat to her then maybe. Think the main thing is to try and get to know her see if she would be on my wavelength on any level at all. That I think is what I missed over a lot in the past kind of got suckered into how hot the real pretty girls were and didn't get any further than that.

[Trenchcoat]

Just imagine if you put, "2. nice ass" as number 1 and told the girl that's why you're dating her!

Admittedly sometimes my sense of humour can be a bit bad, sometimes I know not to say some stuff, other times I say stuff just for a laugh, I don't mean it to hurt but it might do so without my intending to. I never really thought much on how that might impact the girl or the relationship. There's a chance that my bad sense of humour unless I try and completely contain it in which case it's kind of suppressing my personality (me not being me) then it may confine me to a certain type of girl. By which I mean a girl that doesn't do much get offended by that but kind of gets it or is at least quite robust. Girls that are too prim & proper, delicate, too civil, easily offended, fragile, delicate, etc probably I would struggle to keep a relationship with would be my guess.

In a way I probably grew up in the wrong kind of area as a working class kid in a middle class area. Most middle class girls I think are brought up to be a bit too delicate in nature to be suitable for me. It's not like I want a girl who is hard or rough but I think she is going to have to at least be not too easily offended/fragile and kind of get bad humour.

The girls I met in the FSU varied, Kherson girl was ok with my bad humour when I let slip once. The girl I met in Minsk got offended in a message I sent her while I was communicating with her in the UK, she sent a message back saying it wasn't funny, etc I apologised and recovered enough. Girl from Mariupol was put out when my small plastic drinks bottle accidentally went over the balcony at the theatre when it was returned to me. That was entirely an accident anyone could have had and I didn't even realise until the guy came up to give the bottle back to me. I don't think her nor Minsk girl would have suited me long term unless I really was careful of what I did & said, kind of walking on egg shells like.

So a girl who is working class and not too sensitive, kind of gets a laugh out of the bad humour I guess a bit like you can get on 'Family Guy' and isn't too easily offended I guess would probably suit me most. Otherwise, I guess without me being me it would be a risk of coming across as a kind of bland, non-person as otherwise how else to be?

[LAman]

WTF, another fantasyland thread started by treachcoat.
Very few here deal in reality 

[krimster2]

what is this "reality" thing you speak of?
is it in the room with us now?

how do you know the difference between what is real and what is NOT real?
if you wish something to be real, isn't the wish itself "real"...???

what if you wished for something miraculous, and to your amazement
it actually happened
did the wish cause the reality
or was it just a coincidence?

[Trenchcoat]

what is this "reality" thing you speak of?
is it in the room with us now?

how do you know the difference between what is real and what is NOT real?
if you wish something to be real, isn't the wish itself "real"...???

what if you wished for something miraculous, and to your amazement
it actually happened
did the wish cause the reality
or was it just a coincidence?

Good point Krim!

If you create something in your mind that creation can be brought into being. The mind being able to create all sorts of powerful concepts (or not) and be a real force for change. A powerful tool indeed.

[Trenchcoat]

To be honest I'm not going to sweat it over Supermarket girl. Kind of easier for me to jet of to Moldova in a couple of months time than something impromptu here.

[Trenchcoat]

So Krim, how about you and girls that are facially pretty, could you never hold one permanently? I mean you're a wealthy guy so theoretically that might be thought to be able to do it.

[Trenchcoat]

According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs there are 7,989,000 Ukrainian refugees  living abroad as at 1/2/23.


Of these 5,840,000 are adults.


The UK hasn't proven a very popular destination with 140,300 living here.


There are 158,613 living in Moldova.


By far the highest number are in Poland  with 1,786,000,followed by Germany with 1,200,000.


I suspect very few attractive Ukrainian women refugees who were single will return to Ukraine to live....they'll have been hooking up with local guys as a means to get out of the country on a permanent basis.





It's sad how a country can be destroyed so much by the ambitions of an evil autocrat,and hopefully i will see Russia  pay for this over the short and long-term with the destruction of their country too in my lifetime.

Would stand to reason, whether those guys can then hold onto them long term is another matter. Once it becomes apparent what those girls can get over here. I used to know a guy who had a pretty gf, every time his back was turned there was some guy cracking onto her, go for a pee in a pub restaurant and some guy would be sitting there trying to chat up his girl when he got back. He said it got a pain in the arse it got so much and I bet it did. When I tested out pretty girl pic on Tinder it got around 1000 likes in a day lol. So unless a relationship with a girl like that is as solid as a rock it can just be big problems.

I always viewed pretty girls (& guys to some extent) as very fortunate but now I just wonder if it brings a whole host of it's own problems potentially as bad as those who aren't so pretty may have. The stories you hear of people's lives falling apart as a result of all the shagging around that often happens.

Anyhow, yeah I can see some returning after but some also staying, the longer the war goes on the more likely they will stay I reckon. Ukraine is probably going to have plenty of space and cheap apartments to buy in the future if that goes down. For sure though I'm not sure if it's going to be in any good state at the end of all of this. Many cases of domestic violence on the rise from soldiers on leave from the front. Its a real bad toll the war is taking on people's lives there and I kind of feel bad for them being inflicted with that without them having done anything to cause it.

[Chelseaboy]

Would stand to reason, whether those guys can then hold onto them long term is another matter. Once it becomes apparent what those girls can get over here. I used to know a guy who had a pretty gf, every time his back was turned there was some guy cracking onto her, go for a pee in a pub restaurant and some guy would be sitting there trying to chat up his girl when he got back. He said it got a pain in the arse it got so much and I bet it did. When I tested out pretty girl pic on Tinder it got around 1000 likes in a day lol. So unless a relationship with a girl like that is as solid as a rock it can just be big problems.

It gets worse than that believe me.


I'd return home from work and there'd be male neighbours at my door talking with my wife...and of course when i arrived those men would quickly depart.


She'd also get hit on at her work all the time.


We split up twelve years ago,and she's had  live-in relationships with four guys since then.Our son tells me she's just gone back to the third one. The longest she's been alone in those twelve years is about a month.


Just like when she was with me,she's always made well aware by other guys she has options when she's in a relationship...and they're just waiting to pounce.


The problem you'll have, if you manage to snag a stunner,is that the more male attention she receives the more her expectations of you will increase.

[krimster2]

you Anglo-Saxons are conditioned to be "polite"
but ya should use that politeness as a thin veneer
that hides a darker more sinister side
think of Mr. Shelby of "Peeky Blinders"
ya see, that's me mate...

I learned Ju-Jitsu, just so I could phuque people up without landing a blow
this taught me various "hand-holds" that end with the person screamin in pain and fallin to their knees in agony
but leaves no mark, and as long as there are no witnesses, no police will be involved
but the message is quite clear
no one ever, ever, ever, phuques with me a second time
this is wahtcha shoulda done to your wife's admirers
and had a little discussion with her as well

as far as as your choice of women goes, ya'll shouldn't be hangin out with the "wrong kind"
there are lots of women who make a habit of using men, and once married, can't quite give up on this habit, and that creates problems
ya need to be able to identify them, and avoid them
ya don't want a gadfly that makes a habit of going flower to flower

a quiet loner, and also from a "niche" is your huckleberry
my favorite FSU niche, was tall women, 6 footers (I'm particularly fond of the "Gal Godot" type)
these women find it real hard to date in Russia/Ukraine
when you make "your play" you spoil her, without making any demands in return
that's how I "rolled" over there
I nurtured the delicate flower of Ukrainian womanhood
watched it bloom, and now rest under the shade it provides
and never worried over her leaving me or lookin at another

[Trenchcoat]

It gets worse than that believe me.


I'd return home from work and there'd be male neighbours at my door talking with my wife...and of course when i arrived those men would quickly depart.


She'd also get hit on at her work all the time.


We split up twelve years ago,and she's had  live-in relationships with four guys since then.Our son tells me she's just gone back to the third one. The longest she's been alone in those twelve years is about a month.


Just like when she was with me,she's always made well aware by other guys she has options when she's in a relationship...and they're just waiting to pounce.


The problem you'll have, if you manage to snag a stunner,is that the more male attention she receives the more her expectations of you will increase.

Thanks for sharing CB. Yeah your experience confirms to me  my worst fears. It's absolutely ravenous these days out there in UK society for a girl, especially a pretty girl. I've never really aimed for a pretty girl as such but they just come by and some seem to have chemistry but always too much competition in the UK. I don't doubt that there's more to many pretty girls than just looks but of course those looks are going to be a magnet for men as you've found.

For me when out in Moldova will just have to meet girls and see which ones fit. She doesn't have to be above average in looks but she she needs to feel right whatever the case I think in a natural sort of way rather than me just getting hot on her looks if I can manage to put that to one side.

The situation is no doubt different out there to a few years back and a lit has no doubt changed. In theory I could get women up from all sorts of situations. So will just have to see what I find. Potentially though with Ukrainian women I guess anything from fall outs with their man to losses, etc.