Social Status in Ukraine

[krimster2]

my wife is a freakin expert on this subject

skin aging is caused by sun damage
so stay out of the sun! and work inside

my village girl wife, has Elizabeth Hurley looks
don't be makin no false stereotypes about barefoot potato diggin village gurls

in the USA, my wife's been hit-on more times than a boxing dummy, and turned 'em all down and 99% of guys here are too shy to even bother trying
in Ukraine, well muscled village girls in old torn, ragged bikinis with major "side-boob"
is enuff to get ya through the winter
you single dewds could buy 'em a piva from one of the vendors on Arcadia
and watch them take a sip
and a few drops spill down their chest

[olgac]

in Ukraine, well muscled village girls in old torn, ragged bikinis with major "side-boob"
is enuff to get ya through the winter
you single dewds could buy 'em a piva from one of the vendors on Arcadia
and watch them take a sip
and a few drops spill down their chest

Yeah well just how old are we talking about here? 40s? 50s?

nd Your wife has been living a nicer life with you for over 25 years so not a показатель :-p

[krimster2]

I don't kiis and tell, but if you saw my wife in person, you'd GREATLY underestimate her age
but she's HAD EVERYTHING DONE to keep it that way

[olgac]

I don't know... My young friend from Belarus has an uneducated mom in small Belorussian town who is basically my age.
I saw the photos. She looks like an old lady in bad health
When my friend sees photos of my 75 year old slender and fit mom enjoying life and traveling around the world, she is in complete shock. Her mom's mom lives in a village with not just lack of basic sanitation in the house but even a lack of the
outhouse. The woman looks really old and unheathy!

Again, krimster, your wife didn't live in the village when she was in her 30s or 40s

[krimster2]

you CAN take the girl outta the village
but ya can't take the village out of the girl

also, having a top plastic surgeon and skiln care specialists and spending a small fortune just on skin care

this license photo is a couple of year old
yes, she's 6 fort 1 inch tall
yes, she's a green-eyed Ukrainian village girl,
if you think she's OLD lookin now
you shoulda seen her when I married her almost 25 years ago

when, solely out of the kindness of my heart, I took her "under my wing"
with no other ulterior motive
other than just being kind

you people have miscast me completely
I am St Krimster of the Bayou

and I absolve you all
for yur tresspasses against me

now GO!
and SIN NO MORE!!!

[olgac]

Yes a very beautiful photo, Krimster

And of course you can take a young girl out of village and provide a nice lifestyle for her and she will not age as fast as the girls who STAYED in the village, but she has to be pretty young when she is taken out of the village.

I was replying to trenchcoat who is in mid 40s from what I gather and is low on funds. Even from Ukrainian village he is not likely to find a beautiful girl in her early to mid 20s (unless she only marries him to get out)
It's much more realistic for him to look for a woman in her late 30s. But women in their late 30s form a village already
look older than the women in late 30s form the cities especially those of a higher social class.
So while it's much easier to attract a woman from a lower socioeconomic class, You have to keep in mind they usually age
faster if they stay in their surroundings. And many of of them have kids early in life which need additional funds to be supported by trench.
That's all I am saying.

[olgac]

when, solely out of the kindness of my heart, I took her "under my wing"
with no other ulterior motive
other than just being kind

yeah RIGHT

[krimster2]

no funds = no fun
happy wife = happy life

balance the algebraic equations
if ya add to one side, ya gotta subtract from the other so they're both equal

I tried helpin Trench
even offered to be his business manger, pro bono, to help him get a start in life

he's just one of these lads who hate to leave home
so they end up living within walking distance of their mom's house
just so they eat meals over there a few times per week

I know, right....
some poor woman is really missing out here...

but why do they wrap the fish and chips in old newspaper, eh?
not even Russians do that
they put the fish in these real thin plastic bags

whcih can be turned into really GREAT hot air fire balloons to fly over industrial areas
so many fun hobbies in RuZZia

[olgac]

yes I agree trenchcoat needs to make more money especially if he likes beautiful women who dress in a feminine way.

Such women need money to maintain their looks
- money for clothes (even not designer stuff is still expensive, a nice dress is usually at least $100 each
- shoes at least $100 a pair usually more and we like a lot of shoes!
- manicure-pedicure is at least $90 every 2 weeks
- facials are about $100 each
- skin care and make up is 100s of dollars
- good gym membership is expensive (of course in my case I work out with a personal trainer 3 times a week at $70 per session to have a hard butt and thighs  and a flat stomach but I guess can work out on her own or take classes about 100/mo.
- for woman over 40s who doesn't want wrinkles: botox and fillers are at least 1-2K a year!
- hair cut and color, eyebrows for me I pay at least $200 per month in California it was $300 a month
- more expensive groceries - a health conscious woman will want lean meat, fish, a lot of organic greens, whole grains, fresh organic fruit and vegetables which will be much more expensive than the current groceries You are buying.
- and first year-two she will need english classes as well!
So yes it takes a lot of $$$ for a woman to stay attractive and dress nice even if she lives in Ukraine it's a lot!

My young Belorussian friend here was dressing like a teenager, not very feminine, so I convinced her for dating to buy some nice outfits/dresses, shoes and so on. We didn't go for any designer brands either just relatively nice stuff (like Ann Taylor for example). We spent almost a thousand dollars on her new wardrobe and it's by far not done either!

[krimster2]

Trench is hoping to find a wealthy woman, who will take care of HIM
he's playing hard to get
real...real...real hard to get

[ML]

Yes I agree trenchcoat needs to make more money especially if he likes beautiful women who dress in a feminine way.

We didn't go for any designer brands either just relatively nice stuff (like Ann Taylor for example). We spent almost a thousand dollars on her new wardrobe and it's by far not done either!

Hey, I think  the stuff you can find at Salvation Army and Goodwill are OK.

But more seriously, for both my first wife and current 'new and improved version 2.0,' I am the one buying the clothes (with them first trying on, of course).  Reason: they both think clothes are too expensive and don't want to buy much.

My first wife moved up the corporate ladder into upper middle management.  I told her she had to get several new 'professional business' outfits.  Best were the multiple type where you have jacket and matching trousers and skirt.  She nearly fainted at the prices, so I had to tell her to go to the car while I purchased.

Now I am repeating this with Ukrainian professor wife for professional  meetings,  etc.  In classroom, most female professors wear trousers and even jeans.  Funny story in that she first told me she would wear skirts and high heels like  she did in Ukraine.  I just smiled.  That dress type lasted one day.

This is a tough job . . . but someone has to do it !!

[olgac]

oh this is so cool! Everyone wants such a husband

I worked in a field where people mostly don't dress up but I often wore skirts and heels anyways,
but much easier for me than for a faculty who has to stand most of the day!

I also don't buy too much expensive stuff like no 1000 shoes or 3000 bags like some of my russian speaking friends
in US buy .  But other than that I think nothing of buying a $200-$300 dress, $200 shoes and especially not $120 jeans
or $120-160 top! And that's on sale! I hope You are listening, trench, I am not high maintenance at all compared to other women from FSU!
The only real money I spend now us on training: i weigh the same as in 1998 when we met but I was more muscular back then and I want the same level if fitness now 😊

And yes even a girl from a village wants to be higher social class and look the part if she leaves the village!

[krimster2]

"I worked in a field where people mostly don't dress up..."
kakoi?, kartoshkie or kapusta?
were you outstanding in your field?

in addition to "haute couture"
add the following:

jewelry
luxury automobiles
new upscale house
cosmetic surgery/dentistry/beauty care

and this is only the top of the laundry list
it's pages long

I'm sure Trench has a few pounds to spare....(new ones w/Charles, are ya gonna hoard Elizabeth notes?)

it's why I'm tellin 'ya home boy
you better start figurin out how to make some money, or yur gonna be eatin at yur mom's house for a LONG time...
hey at least you know the menu

PS
physically, Ukrainian women, greatly overshadow soft, flabby American Women
and if ya find a REAL STRONG one, they'll be like Valentina Shevchenko, a WMMA Champion Fighter

my wife would be 10 TIMES what Valentina Shevchenko  is...
and at first I even thought about promoting her in the WMMA field...
she has EVERY quality a top-notch fighter could wish for - PERFECT!
but my friends were like, NO! Don't!, cuz her face will get beaten to a pulp
and I was like "Duh" you're rigtht, WTF was I even thinking....
I like lookin at her too much, to risk it for just a few hundred thousand dollars... and the media exposure + online merchandise + onlyfans add-ons

cuz she "fine lookin"
now, go make me a sandwich!

sheeeet...man.....

the reality is, this is a BOOMER pursuit
and I'm the Biggest BOOMER who ever BOOMED

Gen Z and Gen Wee-wee
have no chance in the world that's coming (we're still in the "slack" period, but watch the next decade, see how fast things will change)
they're already blaming BOOMERS for their "failure to launch"

PS
Krimster's Survival Guide

if ya find some lead tire weights in the road, save them
then when ya collect a bunch of aluminum cans
melt a little of the lead tire weights and pour a little into the can, then flatten it
dump these cans in with a bunch of others
and it will pad the pay-back at the recycling center

keep doin it, and it's a few extra bucks for the soup kitchen with government cheese distribution

[olgac]

Field of IT not kartoshka or kapusta 😂

Yes totally forgot jewelry and dental work!
Though jewelry trench can say is not needed but he did always mention  dressing nice 😁 and looking nice

[krimster2]

Trench doesn't KNOW
what he DOESN'T KNOW
and he doesn't even KNOW THAT!!!!

which means....
he's probably better off eating at his mum's cottage-in-the-country for as long as he can
he has no stress from that
he gets all the slack

he hoards the slack for himself, he can never get enuff slack
nothin Trench loves more, than SLACK

and seriously....
AI Porn will be so GOOD in 10 more years, guys like Trench won't care about "real life" at all
we're talkin 3D immersive, with chat-gpt voice synthesis
dewds will literally die of starvation and dehydration while hooked up to their VR Headsets

in 10 more years, everything is gonna converge into "a perfect storm"
seek shelter from the helter skelter

the singlarity will NOT be televised
when ya'll are euthanized
don't act surprised

[olgac]

Or he can find someone desperate enough and then there will be bad break up in divorce.
I still remember when I got married on a RW forum a woman was telling a story how
she wanted a new dress to go to husband's friend's wedding and he sent her to Marshalls with $40
like "knock Yourself out, honey!"
I mean didn't he want to show her off to friends?

My recommendation is: before getting married actually check online just how much all these feminine
outfits and shoes that You fancy areeven on huge sale. I am not talking about designer stuff and a woman
not wanting to wear "last season", just about dresses, shoes, etc. that attract You and not from some cheapy chinese
site with fake photos though I did hear of a man wanting to order a wedding gown from Ali Express LOL

PS: krimster: MMA fighting is extreme but in general I find martial arts train quite well or kickboxing, just practicing with a heavy bag alone is great! I did this in my mid 40s in a boxing gym! I am sure Your wife knows what to do is she is strong You lucky man! In my case I want to lose 3 more % of body fat and then I will just go to group classes my personal trainer has which is much much cheaper I think $25 per small class.

[krimster2]

t'would in my humble opinion, better serve Trench to live as a hermit...
find some other way
to satisfy whatever it is you think you need from the World, sex, love, trolling rednecks...

yur land is peaceful
yur people aren't gettin killed
yur not living in exile
you live in yur childhood home

this is yur good fortune guv'ner
many would envy you, even me

for some people, the worst thing that can possibly happen to them
is to get that, which they think they want
only to find out HOW AWFUL this thing REALLY is

and not be able to handle this TRUTH, when it smacks them

ergo Trench me lad
be grateful fer yur mum's roast beef and taters and Welsh Puddin

does yur mum have a fireplace?
bring her some wood

nothin like watching the fire, eh?

[Trenchcoat]

And yes even a girl from a village wants to be higher social class and look the part if she leaves the village!

'If' she leaves the village'

If a village girl was kept in the village then that would be the cheapest option 

Seriously, still with my Ukrainian girl in the UK at the moment and things are going ok I think. It's been a bit up & down but possibly I think we are getting there, we'll see. Good news is she isn't the most materialistic or demanding on the gear front so a good economical model So suits the budget this time I guess lol.

I get it in the clothing but sometimes there's a budget. To my mind there are times to be economical and times nig too.

However, a good wardrobe of quality clothes can be used tine and again if the fashion is not too distinctive to the era and good mileage can be had out of it.

[krimster2]

"If' she leaves the village'"

said the lad, who NEVER left HIS village
like a rocket, still sittin on the launchpad

ain't nobdy leavin no village man
the village, must come to Trench

they will need to enlarge the main road
to accomodate all the traffic

in the future, you won't be livin in the Universe
you'll be livin in the metaverse
America and Odesa won't exist any more
you will live in a beautiful, virtual world
and you'll ignore EVERYTHING that happens outside

whatever yo do, don't let them get yur DNA and store it
cuz like 100 yrs from now, the AIs will be cloning you for the Asteroid Mines
and they want that older DNA, cuz it's less phuqued up than newer DNA

[2tallbill]

'If' she leaves the village'

If a village girl was kept in the village then that would be the cheapest option 

The cheapest option is to stay home and leave the village girl alone.

[krimster2]

Hey Trench!
Leave That Village Girl Alone!!!!
All In All, You're Just Another Brick In The WALL!!

how can ya haz yur puddin, if ya ain't had yur Porridge, eh Master Trench...

women, gambling, drugs, fast cars, guns, fighting, GPUs for LLMs

America! Phuque Yeah!!!!!

I'm too sexy for my hat
too sexy for my hat
whatcha think about that?
hmmmm?

NOT YOU RWD123!
no I'm straight dewd, I told ya.... don't put yur hands on me AGAIN....or I will BUST YOU UP!!!!
YOU go to RuZZia, that's a funny story
you'd survive longer on the surface of the sun
cuz RuZZians will compete to see who can smack that Anglo-Saxon lookin face of yurs the hardest back in the USSR

RuZZia is not my Soviet Socialist Paradise
it's not even NICE

in Australia, ya'll got's them aboriginines
they ain't white fellas like you
h'come you ain't worried bout them aboriginies
but gay cowboys dressed in pink western attire.....
is like the fall of the Roman Empire for you, game over for Western Civilization

I guess you were disappointed to find out what "Penal Colony" meant, and wasn't what you had hoped for

don't they have any women with "big knockers" walkin around Bandai beach which is "Top Optional"
cuz that's where I'd be, if I were you
sunglasses...

seriously, buy a topless girl, a cold drink on the beach
and when she takes a gulp, a little bit flows down, between her breasts
to the bottom of her suit

and you can just watch it...slowly descend
hmmmm..... delicious......

I totally miss the topless beach scene in Crimea
I mean day-yam!!!!

90 mg Codeine Phosphate via "cold water extraction" + Tungusta ThunderPhuque
followed by the morning Crimean Beach Patrol

was a typical Saturday Summer Morning

and I'd see more nice lookin titties then you could EVER imagine

and THAT's not even the best part of Crimean Beach Patrol, RuZZians goin WILD
the random crazy stuff you'd see RuZZians do when they're phuqued up
totally worth the "look see"

[2tallbill]

I was replying to trenchcoat who is in mid 40s from what I gather and is low on funds. Even from Ukrainian village he is not likely to find a beautiful girl in her early to mid 20s (unless she only marries him to get out)
It's much more realistic for him to look for a woman in her late 30s. But women in their late 30s form a village already look older than the women in late 30s form the cities especially those of a higher social class.

Realistic? hahahahaha.

Trench hasn't been realistic since coming to the forum 9+ years ago. He makes
less money the a full time worker at Walmart that gathers the shopping carts.

I don't know if you know anything about baseball, but my analogy is this.
He wants to skip steps and end up with a home run without going around the bases.
He believes that he can get a hot young woman by wearing fake bling, without
romancing her and without talking, skyping or spending a great deal of time with
her.

He thinks he can leave her in the village and he will have a girl that will be waiting
for him with her ankles in the air and dinner on the table, while he walks in with
his monthly rental checks from the British students who won't have parties or
destroy his rental house. The same students will pay the rent on time every month
and the toilet won't overflow and it won't cause thousands in damage.

Also this rental house doesn't exist because he needs to finish his years long remodel
that he thinks will be done before 2026. He was working on this remodel since I forget,
2021? 2020?

Trench isn't reasonable.

I don't know why I comment about Trench, I am becoming somebody that I don't like.
It's like verbally beating up a 14 year old boy because he doesn't know anything.

[Trenchcoat]

Realistic? hahahahaha.

Trench hasn't been realistic since coming to the forum 9+ years ago. He makes
less money the a full time worker at Walmart that gathers the shopping carts.

I don't know if you know anything about baseball, but my analogy is this.
He wants to skip steps and end up with a home run without going around the bases.
He believes that he can get a hot young woman by wearing fake bling, without
romancing her and without talking, skyping or spending a great deal of time with
her.

He thinks he can leave her in the village and he will have a girl that will be waiting
for him with her ankles in the air and dinner on the table, while he walks in with
his monthly rental checks from the British students who won't have parties or
destroy his rental house. The same students will pay the rent on time every month
and the toilet won't overflow and it won't cause thousands in damage.

Also this rental house doesn't exist because he needs to finish his years long remodel
that he thinks will be done before 2026. He was working on this remodel since I forget,
2021? 2020?

Trench isn't reasonable.

I don't know why I comment about Trench, I am becoming somebody that I don't like.
It's like verbally beating up a 14 year old boy because he doesn't know anything.

I'm already dating a Ukrainian Girl Beel, and yes the age gap is well in excess of the marker you gave me or WM in general

It hasn't all been plain sailing but I think it can be a goer and we may get there, we'll see. Dating outside your cultural group can bring quite a learning curve to it, but I'm learning. I'm not one for giving up so I'll keep pressing on whatever.

The purpose of this thread is really just to learn more about Ukraine and how their society is over there than it is about me finding a Ukrainian Woman as at the moment that is so far fulfilled

[Trenchcoat]

Well after he lost all the extra weight and improved himself he did just fine with an american women, got married and i think now has 2 kids.
http://www.instagram.com/mrjnava_/?hl=en
Anfisa stayed in US and is now dating hot or rich men here

Thanks for the update I didn't know that. Looks like he got with a lady with some Chinese or something in there so a trade up for her to a white guy

She looks like a nicer person for him to be with though and he looks more at ease and happier with her. What poor George had to endure with Anfisa, I think he was too soft and gentle for her though AND she wanted more than he could provide for her. In general I think she wasn't into him enough and that made her materialistic urges worse most probably.

[2tallbill]

The purpose of this thread is really just to learn more about Ukraine and how their society is over
there than it is about me finding a Ukrainian Woman as at the moment that is so far fulfilled

Then why don't you make a normal post or a normal thread?
Why make asinine comments about keeping a village girl in
her village? Why all the weird deception? 

Trench isn't reasonable.
I Still don't know why I comment about Trench, I am becoming somebody that I don't like.
It's like verbally beating up a 14 year old boy because he doesn't know anything.