Outlook for Children of joint Western/FSU relationships

[Trenchcoat]

I know there are several members on here who have had children with FSW. I have been wondering what do you see as their outlook in life potentially?

Do you see their future as better off getting with a Western Woman or an East European Woman like yourself?

Are you teaching your child just the English language or Russian, Ukrainian, etc languages as well?

Do you see them as ever going out to the FSU much in future? I know some here may live in the US so the FSU is a long flight journey away. Others here live in Europe so FSU countries are relatively close by at hand in comparison so potentially allowing for more frequent visits with shorter and cheaper travel time.

[olgac]

Ours is basically an American and speaks very little Russian with horrible accent. It's pretty hard to preserve RUssian when English is spoken at home. My twin sister's husband is Russian, who came here on H1B and their daughter speaks Russian, not a very sophisticated Russian, with an accent, but still. Nobody I knew (male children) went back to get an FSU wife except a son of my Ukranian friend who married a Ukranian girl. My friend treated her as her own daughter, was very happy, but it turned out she had a boyfriend back home, did not love my friend's son and left him after couple of years. He was devastated.

All the other young men, sons of my FSUW friends are just dating American girls not even americanized russian-speaking like themselves, but the ones born here. Often different race. One young man married a latina in California, others married americanized asians, some white american girls

[Trenchcoat]

Ours is basically an American and speaks very little Russian with horrible accent. It's pretty hard to preserve RUssian when English is spoken at home. My twin sister's husband is Russian, who came here on H1B and their daughter speaks Russian, not a very sophisticated Russian, with an accent, but still. Nobody I knew (male children) went back to get an FSU wife except a son of my Ukranian friend who married a Ukranian girl. My friend treated her as her own daughter, was very happy, but it turned out she had a boyfriend back home, did not love my friend's son and left him after couple of years. He was devastated.

All the other young men, sons of my FSUW friends are just dating American girls not even americanized russian-speaking like themselves, but the ones born here. Often different race. One young man married a latina in California, others married americanized asians, some white american girls

That's interesting to know Olga. It looks like for the US that children don't so much get with the native tongue of one of their parents. Probably varies a bit, I know Krim said that his daughter's spoke Russian. Here in the UK we haven't had a big FSU community until the recent last few years where we got a lot of Ukrainian refugees and also quite a lot of Russian ones escaping Putler's Russia. I know many Polish here enrol their Children in Polish weekend school to teach them Polish or just teach them it themselves. Should be interesting to see if the shorter distance makes a difference on whether children learn FSU language of their parent while in the UK.

[Steven1971]

My son is bilingual in French and English. It's really important to insist they consume the language at home they don't use at school and with friends. I wouldime to take the credit, but South Park and YouTube did a lot of the heavy lifting.

[Trenchcoat]

My son is bilingual in French and English. It's really important to insist they consume the language at home they don't use at school and with friends. I wouldime to take the credit, but South Park and YouTube did a lot of the heavy lifting.

Thanks Steven, that is good to know and confirms stuff that Google has thrown up. Basically having stuff in the other language around, books, films, as you say You Tube maybe even Social Media can help a lot. Speaking the language of the country you are not in at home is a good idea as then it gives it regular practice to stay in use. That no doubt helps with remembering and recall of a language beyond the initial learning of the language.

Myself I've never obtained a fluent conversational level in any language. Looking at the task after learning some Russian I can see the monumental task in gaining this fluency. It's not really a weekend hobby or like they teach us French, etc when we were in School of a few hours a week in class and a bit of homework. It really seems to take a lot more time and be in a situation where regular use of the language is needed to obtain that desirable level of fluency.

I think use of more than one language that is widely spoken can be of great use to any person, adult or child. Unfortunately here some people choose to waste their time learning Welsh which is hardly ever spoken lol.

[2tallbill]

Ours is basically an American and speaks very little Russian with horrible accent. It's pretty hard to preserve Russian when English is spoken at home.

Mini Me takes classes taught in Russian where nobody is allowed to speak
English. All the teachers are Native Russian speakers but Mini Me won't speak
Russian except when forced to do so.

His Russia is rudimentary. Compared to parents who both speak Russian at
home.

[krimster2]

years ago, I was hoping my kids would at least get part of their education in Russia
for example, learning the technology behind the fast breeder reactor BN-350, a 50 year old liquid sodium cooled Soviet Breeder reactor
I actually went to visit it's remains in Kazakhstan, and found/purchased official Soviet design documents from the Kazakhstan ministry of interior

imagine making a breeder reactor that could be made with 50 year old Russian technology, that NEVER runs out of fuel
and updating it, using modern technology, a mass-produced Small Modular Reactor made in a factory that takes only a month to install on site
a foolish dream...

but not now...
in Russia, it's a police state on steroids
you are just one word/action away from bein "detained"
the sword of Damocles is always hangin over yur head
Putinism means the Russian language doesn't connect to my kids future any more, just their past...
but they had a glorious childhood in Crimea
sledding in the winter, the black sea in the summer

now, it's off limits to them

the USA extradited a Russian hacker a couple of weeks ago
it means another American is gonne be detained at Moscva, to be swapped later

[Trenchcoat]

Mini Me takes classes taught in Russian where nobody is allowed to speak
English. All the teachers are Native Russian speakers but Mini Me won't speak
Russian except when forced to do so.

His Russia is rudimentary. Compared to parents who both speak Russian at
home.

That's interesting to hear Bill there must be quite a sizeable Russian community where you are?

As Mini Me gets older it might not be a bad place to check out to see if there is any talent Hopefully the girls and not the boys lol.

So what is our Beel doing to up his learning of Russian at home?

[Trenchcoat]

years ago, I was hoping my kids would at least get part of their education in Russia
for example, learning the technology behind the fast breeder reactor BN-350, a 50 year old liquid sodium cooled Soviet Breeder reactor
I actually went to visit it's remains in Kazakhstan, and found/purchased official Soviet design documents from the Kazakhstan ministry of interior

Krim why would you want your daughter's to learn such stuff? Usually girls aren't into such technology type of fields and it may even be seen as unusual for a Father to want any daughters to be into such fields.

[krimster2]

I have one daughter who is "gifted" in science/math who's now an Electrical Engineering major and will graduate with a BSEE next year
since there's no entry level jobs, for her after graduation, she might as well do her MSEE after that...
sucks to be "Gen Z" and have much lower expectations than preceeding generations

[Trenchcoat]

I have one daughter who is "gifted" in science/math who's now an Electrical Engineering major and will graduate with a BSEE next year
since there's no entry level jobs, for her after graduation, she might as well do her MSEE after that...
sucks to be "Gen Z" and have much lower expectations than preceeding generations

Wouldn't she be better of just getting pregnant and having children? After all she is with a guy now and most guys would like to have children.

[krimster2]

generally...people have careers, savings, before they think about children....
that's why I was in my 40s when I became a father, and not in my 20s when I was a university student/summer time construction worker

Boomers were the luckiest generation in history
right place, right time
we were given all the post-war treasure
but the treasure ran out
and so we "revert to the mean" for future generations

New Deal-->NO Deal
decline of the middle class, the poor become poorer and the rich become even richer

the period where the path to success was Education, job skills, white collar job, buy yur own house
is over

blue collar BUSINESSES are the future
and so is living on a farm with off-grid utilities, protected from EMP attack
and growin yur own food and HEMP!!

[Trenchcoat]

generally...people have careers, savings, before they think about children....
that's why I was in my 40s when I became a father, and not in my 20s when I was a university student/summer time construction worker

Boomers were the luckiest generation in history
right place, right time
we were given all the post-war treasure
but the treasure ran out
and so we "revert to the mean" for future generations

New Deal-->NO Deal
decline of the middle class, the poor become poorer and the rich become even richer

the period where the path to success was Education, job skills, white collar job, buy yur own house
is over

blue collar BUSINESSES are the future
and so is living on a farm with off-grid utilities, protected from EMP attack
and growin yur own food and HEMP!!

That's the problem, everyone doing the same thing at the same time.

The situation your daughter is facing is generally the way it has been since the 90s. It's what I faced in my life and most youngsters since.

If it were me and I was very wealthy like yourself I would just give her the money so shd didn't need to do all of that so she could go and get pregnant right away and you would have Grandchildren.

The problem is after she's got her Masters degree, etc. If she picks up work whatever work it is she is then going to be in 'career mode'. She won't want to go and have children as she will see herself as on the career ladder and children a distraction from that. The Employer will always be dangling another promotion on the career ladder in front of her and what comes with it and she won't want to pull away from that. It can be a real trap for women I think.

So to my mind it's why I dislike the idea of any woman, partner, daughters getting on the career track in the first place as once on there it's pretty difficult for them to get off and they often end up railroaded along the track to a place that isn't good for them personally.

[krimster2]

they have their own lives, make their own choices

[Trenchcoat]

they have their own lives, make their own choices

That's a very Western sentiment Krim, those of us going to the FSU do so to avoid that as we know where it leads.

Just think if your daughter's put out you could have a whole organisation of little Krim's to do your bidding

[krimster2]

unfortunately...that plan didn't work out...

wife and I will soon be on our own
my wife has rejected the idea of livin on a large boat in the caribbean
OTOH, I can see the virtue of having a post office box in some port for packages, etc and living on a yacht
and swim and dive every day
no neighbors, politics, or BS

leave when storms come
avoid customs at points of entry, etc
yacht tourists don't have to worry about customs declarations, etc

the fact that Epstein's "Pedo Island" is in such proximity to The Caymen Islands, which is an off-shore tax haven for money launderers
tells you that that Epstein's teen sex and money were all connected together

just one of Epstein's bank accounts had $1.5 BILLION in wire transfers
always FOLLOW THE MONEY


I like how Ghislane's father became Maxwell from Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch
he was born in the same area my Ukrainian yevray ancestor's were from, and he himself was yevray

Ghislane Maxwell was the most "connected" person in the USA thanks to her father and her own ability
after Epstein died...and I think he was so terrified about bein a pedo in prison, that he did kill himself
Ghislane's new boy friend, after Epstein, and before she was apprehended,  was the person who held the keys to the data of the global shipping network

don't you see how IT ALL CONNECTS
taboo teen sex, money laundering, shipping intelligence data

and she was just rewarded by being transferred to a federal "Club Fed"
for not "ratting out" someone

[Trenchcoat]

unfortunately...that plan didn't work out...

wife and I will soon be on our own
my wife has rejected the idea of livin on a large boat in the caribbean
OTOH, I can see the virtue of having a post office box in some port for packages, etc and living on a yacht
and swim and dive every day
no neighbors, politics, or BS

leave when storms come
avoid customs at points of entry, etc
yacht tourists don't have to worry about customs declarations, etc

the fact that Epstein's "Pedo Island" is in such proximity to The Caymen Islands, which is an off-shore tax haven for money launderers
tells you that that Epstein's teen sex and money were all connected together

just one of Epstein's bank accounts had $1.5 BILLION in wire transfers
always FOLLOW THE MONEY


I like how Ghislane's father became Maxwell from Ján Ludvík Hyman Binyamin Hoch
he was born in the same area my Ukrainian yevray ancestor's were from, and he himself was yevray

Ghislane Maxwell was the most "connected" person in the USA thanks to her father and her own ability
after Epstein died...and I think he was so terrified about bein a pedo in prison, that he did kill himself
Ghislane's new boy friend, after Epstein, and before she was apprehended,  was the person who held the keys to the data of the global shipping network

don't you see how IT ALL CONNECTS
taboo teen sex, money laundering, shipping intelligence data

and she was just rewarded by being transferred to a federal "Club Fed"
for not "ratting out" someone

+100 👍 to no neighbours. Not wishing to seem unsociable but neighbours can be a pain in the arse. Even when keeping to yourself you can still get bother from them. I wouldn't like to be stuck in the wilderness in isolation but I would say about a quarter of a mile from the nearest village is a good distance for a bit of peace from annoying neighbours.

I get where you are at with your daughter Krim. My Sister when she was in her teens and twenties was all about her deciding and not wanting kids at the moment. She had it pumped into her at school like a lot of girls in the 90s onwards about careers and what they can get. Of course a career freezes out the prospect of having children early on if at all. All that stuff essentially takes the power out of the parent's/father's hands and into the state's/corporation's hands. It's just another form of indoctrination like religious indoctrination. It's done subtly, the girl gets praised for being good at this or that at school (unless she's a complete non starter) usually an academic subject not usually home ec. etc. The doting Father then couldn't be more proud not realising that he's just had the cards ripped right out of his hands and into the State's/Corporations. All that is left to do by the School is to harp on about what wonderful careers and so called opportunities await the girl (and most other pupils) and voila her future has now been decided for her.

For boys such an education can be ok since they can't get pregnant and we're always supposed to provide, worst case scenario they rot in some dead end Corporate job. For girls though it's essentially risking flushing their lives away for the good of the State/Corporate America, UK, etc.

If I were having girls these days I wouldn't even send them to School for the power to be ripped out of my hands. I would move to Home Schooling for them, it's easier these days with the internet and will become easier still with AI teachers online. That way all of the propaganda they slip into teaching in Schools is removed and the core learning of subjects can be gotten into. All without this, that and the other stuff you don't want influencing your child getting on.


I still can't believe how stupid Ghislaine was to be in the US, after Epstein died the feminists wanted a replacement to answer for his crimes. I'm not saying that Ghislaine did no wrongdoing and Epstein was a real snake but she should have known better than to be in the US it was only a matter of time. She would have been better off hiding out in the large expanse of the countryside in France than anything else or just about anywhere else.

I think you are no doubt right Krim and I'm sure Trump hand lucrative dealings with Epstein and vice versa. When you get up to that level most politicians at the top are going to have dealings to enhance their position and stay at the top. Many will have fixers and all sorts of contacts and deals it's how the rich get rich and powerful. You could probably do so also and I guess kind of already have by joining a clan in Moscow. Out there it's very dangerous to be up the top of a clan, here not usually so. Here in the West all the bottom feeders eat from below, wait their turn and if they are canny enough rise up over time or take a big risk and do it in one. My guess is that you could make it up the top in the West with the position you are in Krim it's just whose clan are you going to join, Republican, Democrat, etc and which top movers and shakers would you rub shoulders with??? Or perhaps just decide that you would rather do your own thing and not bother with all of that as you have done so far.

[krimster2]

a couple of times in my life I lived in an isolated setting while "bein on the job"
the only thing to do is to go and explore yur surroundings in yur free time when yur not workin
and commune with local nature

pre 2020 Russian Hydropower in the far east was a magnet for bitcoin miners
amazing geography

the russkaya mafiya were in dire need of someone to clandestinely architect and deliver a working platform and train a Russian crew
handle all fake imports, logistics, etc
being an outsider, you are not allowed to own anything, you just sell to them. and add yur own percentage
you make yurself useful, by providing them EXACTLY what they want in the shortest amount of time and at a reasonable price

but this was the scariest place I ever stayed in
everything felt unnatural there, like there was somehing REALLY weird going on

from the melting permafrost to clouds of mosquitos trillions strong
massive forest fires
exploding methane bubbles and massive releases of methane, take a Bic lighter and light the bubbles comin outta the melted tundra for fun!!!
cracked buildings falling apart, sink holes everywhere, and these things are REALLY scary to look down becuz they are so freakin deep, if you fall down there, yur gonna stay down there forever
too deep for anyone to retrieve yur body

emerging animal viruses being transferred to humans
melted frozen mongol tombs of smallpox victims
was found to have a still active virus
and now tsunamis, earthquakes, volcanos, and massive influx of chinese and north korean labor while the Russian population is falling

PS
you should see North Korean soldiers the first time they see porn of white girls when they're in Ukraine
they completely lose their minds ans start acting the same way Bee Farmer does and this reduces their fighting ability

eta pravda!


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[Trenchcoat]

But your daughters married those in the clan, is that not doing well for you or them even?

[krimster2]

Yes!
everything is wonderful!

nothing fails quite as good as success
we all endup on the Boulevard of Broken Dreams in the end
life... is all about how each person must endure their own true suffering in silence
iniit?

Anne Frank later recanted her assertion that "people are basically good"
and said, "they like TOTALLY SUCK - big time a$$holes"
typical teenager in a concentration camp, pissed off at the whole world syndrome
geeeeeezzzzz

I walked down the Amsterdam street to her secret hideout, there was a huge cathedral with candles near her hideout
her hidden room is where messages are passed between chabad field agents
now there's a freakin musuem, so ya gotta pretend to be a tourist, first at the museum then in her apartment hideout tour and behve appropriately with a crowd of mostly europeans
you discreetly drop off messages with a stick-it note under a piece of furniture while feeling for other messages
all discreetly without ANYONE catching you doin it!

the same thing at the mini-mart at the gate to the Chernobil Exclusion zone
big yellow post-its glued to to big sign

SERIOUS stalkers all by-pass this and come in on foot in the middle of no-where after making sure there are no cars in either direction

I can't imagine workin the night shift at the Chernobil Mini-Mart, but it's open late cuz of the reactor workers and there's always people in there buying stuff!!!
stalkers who buy Chernobil tours in Chernigov will come in through this gate usually on an old "Gazelle" mini-bus with at least two guides plus paying passengers
and stay for as long as yur willin to pay yur guides

you really gotta know WTF yur doin there to not get cancer in Chernobil
wash yurself off after and throw away yur clothes
women of child bearing age - shouldn't go at ALL
unless ya wanna have a two-headed "Chernobil Baby"

can you imagine a two-headed Ukrainian baby, and each head had a 160 IQ!!!
Ukrainian criminal genuis siamese twins created by radioactive genetic mutation
becomes a Ukrainian super-hero with 4 arms each arm firing a submachine gun in a different direction at the same time
an army of one
to liberate the Ukrainian Rodina

this is the legend of Dave Golovy
born a mutant, shunned by his peers
he later became a messiananic figure as a liberator of his people

Putin will put a $1 million bounty on EACH HEAD!!! = $2 million ka-ching
some heavy coin, muh bruthah



bonus pic
me in Amsterdam, on the way to buy the max amount of weed I'm allowed to buy in a "coffee shop"
and then go to another one and doing the same

pre-war there were gazillions of young Russian girls in Amsterdam
if you spoke Russian, you'd hear them talkin in the street
and in Russian you invite them up to yur AIRBNB and you ask them if they wanna smoke some 'herb with ya
100% they gonna say "DA"!!!!!
you will need to have snacks and food delivery from yur phone for them
being a good host is important to have good relations with different cultures

[Trenchcoat]

That's a nice photo Krim, interesting to finally have an idea of what you look like, but understandably very incognito 🥸

I'm guessing you are around 6ft like me, and like me quite tall and thinish.

I enjoyed going to Amsterdam too, but I don't do weed, never tried it nor wish too, a refreshing Bicardi & Coke is good for me to relax with while abroad.

Anyway, I visited Amsterdam about 15 years ago with my Brother. It was a typical tourist holiday out there. I managed to book us into a cheap but conveniently placed hotel near the city centre. Probably the cheapest deal going for a city centre hotel. It was near a canal at the back of it, was in a traditional building, think they converted it from a brewery, something like that.

So we're did the whole hiring the cycle thing cycled around the City Centre past the big Art Gallery (it had scaffolding up at the time and was closed for renovation) and out along one of the riverside cycle paths out to this little quaint village that used to be inhabited by Jewish people before the war. We stopped off in a pub there and had some drinks. Inside was different to most pubs, we drank outside as a warm sunny day. Inside the pub restaurant was very posh, gold plated fittings, this & that and find table cloths etc, not what you expect from a usual pub restaurant.

Anyway we visited the Frankenhaus, we visited the windmills & cheese producing places on an excursion and bought some cheese that isn't sold in the supermarkets in the UK. It was some very great tasting cheese and unfortunately to this day they still don't sell it in supermarkets in the UK lol, crazy.

So yeah, I'm kind of gagging to get abroad again also, it's nice to be able to chill out and get away from life in the home country. When abroad I don't really care about the government if the place or anything and the different culture around me is nice. I haven't been abroad since 2019 and I probably won't get abroad until next year. To my mind it sounds like Amsterdam is your kind of paradise abroad Krim. I liked it but always a sense of the dodgy kind of pickpocket type around. Copenhagen had much of what Amsterdam had without the weed so to me Copenhagen was preferable not that I would not wish to visit Amsterdam again it generally had a pleasant atmosphere.

Where my paradise would be abroad I don't know, I like Corfu, the year round warm temperatures appeal, the lush vegetation appeal and the greek culture and foods are great. Cyprus is not without it's interest but a bit on the arid side for me. Copenhagen I liked being a brunette guy as a minority to so many blondes That was unusual for me and made a pleasant change to be more unique feeling. Ukraine holds appeal for me as it's culture is refreshingly different to the UK, I like the more patriarchal society, the lack of feminism and being well of in comparison to the locals lol. So maybe a place there and/or in Corfu for me in future, will see.

[krimster2]

yur lucky you have europe so close by
have you ever taken the chunnel from picadilly to paris?
doesn't it save ya a lot of time and hassle compared to flyin?
then you take a Deutsche Bahn bullet train from paris to Berlin, and then transfer to  a slow train through Poland and Ukraine
unlike airports it's all very relaxed and stress free, can get a sleeping car, and just sleep
much less annoying than air travel
more geezer friendly


yes, I looked like a 6'3" British rugby player when I was young
I physically resembled all the other Englishmen in my mother's family in the UK, and not my father's family who were Ukrainian Jews
when I was a teenager in Israel, I was called a "Blondie" LOL!!
this made me and my sister, the "golden children" of the family
being blond hair/blue eyed Jews gave us HUGE status among Jews

now, i'm an old geezer who looks like any other old geezer
I could be a hitman, and don't even need to wear a disguise

yeah, I saw him shoot, he was a geezer
what did he look like?
like every other geezer
????

if I were much younger I'd love to live full time in central/south america
spanish is super easy for english speakers to learn

one of the cheapest places to live
plus the opportunities to experience a totally different natural world
amazing streams, mountains, wildlife, freaking INDIANS, and the young "Indios" are actually pretty hot lookin
if I were "white and fluffy" like I was 30 years ago
Indio girls would be hitting on ME!

I like feeding the parrots in the morning, it's unreal how smart and social these birds are
in central Americca, you can have "pets" that you don't need to take care of
they're independent and will come and visit folks who are friendly with them on a daily basis
the Parrots even leave me gifts, like dead lizards in exchange for grain and pieces of bread
sloths are cute, but their fur is GROSS!  I would never wanna touch one
two male sloths fighting is one of the funniest unexpected things to witness
I used a stick to break it up

Costa Rica is also an awesome place to use a metal detector to look for gold nuggets
and you can hire Indian kids to catch poison dart frogs for you
super simple to process the frog skins and extract the neuro toxin
and coat it on darts, razor blades, icepicks, etc

[Trenchcoat]

yur lucky you have europe so close by
have you ever taken the chunnel from picadilly to paris?
doesn't it save ya a lot of time and hassle compared to flyin?
then you take a Deutsche Bahn bullet train from paris to Berlin, and then transfer to  a slow train through Poland and Ukraine
unlike airports it's all very relaxed and stress free, can get a sleeping car, and just sleep
much less annoying than air travel
more geezer friendly


if I were much younger I'd love to live full time in central/south america
spanish is super easy for english speakers to learn

one of the cheapest places to live
plus the opportunities to experience a totally different natural world
amazing streams, mountains, wildlife, freaking INDIANS, and the young "Indios" are actually pretty hot lookin
if I were "white and fluffy" like I was 30 years ago
Indio girls would be hitting on ME!

I like feeding the parrots in the morning, it's unreal how smart and social these birds are
in central Americca, you can have "pets" that you don't need to take care of
they're independent and will come and visit folks who are friendly with them on a daily basis

I've never been on the Channel/Eurostar. In general it's just as cheap to fly if not cheaper with a budget airline like Ryanair, Wizz, etc than use the Channel.

I guess the Channel is better if you are going by car or hate flying. I don't hate flying so long as all goes ok. Myself I always like to get to the airport way early to avoid any stress of feeling like I'm trying to get there on time. I book parking usually days before going park up in the official airport parking. Get the trolley bus in, then try to get through ticketing/security as quickly as possible to get into the lounge area with the bar where I can chill out and relax with a drink or two. After that there is little stress for me I just have to make sure I keep an eye on the board for my flight to head to the gate.

There can be a fair bit of work pre-booking it all of course but I think it has gotten better & quicker over time. You are right though I am lucky to have all of Europe in my backyard to hang out in. Main issue is having an independent income I can rely upon. My house could soon be fulfilling that criteria Otherwise apart from holidays that is all it is good for, for most people. Even relocating when we were part of the EU could be problematic as if you couldn't secure work in that country, work remotely or have an independent income then it was a non starter.

For US guys having the Carribbean & South America on your doorstep is the big deal and equivalent there I think. The Carribbean is like our Mediterranean while South America is like our Europe just either a different feel & look to the place & people of course. It's why I just can't understand Beefarmuh, I know that he's gone through his reasons for rejecting South America before but at his age in particular it's a really good option for him. For me to travel to South America it would be an expensive flight costing on near a grand's worth and a good 11 hour plus journey. So unless I am going there to stay for a good long while on an independent income then it's not that practical for me. Ukraine being much nearer and cheaper is more practical but for Beefarmer it would be a good scene for him to be s part of. Beefarmer is getting in now probably around late forties so his options on what he can get in a woman start reducing.

If Beefarmer went to South America though he could really enjoy himself instead of being a boring miserable sod trudging in to do the same boring old mechanical maintenance job each day. It's like giving up your last chance to really have some fun in life before you end up too old to enjoy it or even get a look in. Hd could even take a long holiday and go visit the place to see if his opinions remain the same. For me though,yeah sure when I was younger I had a restrictive view on who I wanted to date, etc generally white English woman. However decent white English women didn't seriously want to know as their attention was elsewhere on careers, other guys, etc. So as I got older I became to see what I could realistically get in other countries and how I would be silly to pass over on a potentially good life for rigidly held beliefs that served no benefit to me.

[krimster2]

Bee Farmer lacks the ability of trying to "open doors" that are normally shut
you have to be "an inspired person" willing to put yurself out there
like a salesman knocking on doors
some women are easier to sell than others
the supply of white boys is very limited in parts of central america
and are in HUGE DEMAND by local women, who will ALL want to take you home and have sex with you straight away soon as they meet you
don't freak out and think they're prostitutes!! they're NOT!!!
they just REALLY wanna have sex with you, and they wanna grab you before some other girl does!!!!
so the senoritas go "hard sell" which no white boy has ever experienced in "white boy land"
and their first reaction is to panic and freak out

so many opportunities to combine business and pleasure there
but NOW, all I wanna do is eat some cookies and take a nap...and not a god damned thing more than that
but before I take a nap, i'm gonna check to see if there is sombody walkin' on my lawn!